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Date: 24 Apr 2006 20:49:18
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Subject: 6. Be2 Sicilian Four Knights
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Several opening books suggest that White gets an advantage in this
(rare) Sicilian Four Knights gambit: 1. e4 c5, 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cd4 4.
Nd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6.Be2 Bb4 7.0-0 Bc3 8.bc3 Ne4 9.Bd3 Nc3 10.Qg4. After
the (forced?) 10....Qf6 11.Nc6 dc6 12. Bg5 Qe5 13.Re1, Black has the
funny move 13...h5. It's not clear that White has much here (or even
earlier.)
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Date: 26 Apr 2006 14:52:06
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Subject: Re: 6. Be2 Sicilian Four Knights
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That looks correct. I don't think White can play Be2 at all. Taimanov
claims (early ECO) that Qg4 wins but that doesn't seem to be the case.
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Date: 28 Apr 2006 16:10:21
From: mike
Subject: Re: 6. Be2 Sicilian Four Knights
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This line is covered in this month's Open Sicilian forum on
Chesspublishing.com.
The featured game is Gashimov - Belikov, 2006.
After 9.Qd3, I think Black is struggling. 9...d5 is probably the critical
test, but then 10.Ba3 and it looks like White has a very big initiative.
<[email protected] > wrote in message
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> That looks correct. I don't think White can play Be2 at all. Taimanov
> claims (early ECO) that Qg4 wins but that doesn't seem to be the case.
>
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Date: 26 Apr 2006 02:40:30
From: James
Subject: Re: 6. Be2 Sicilian Four Knights
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Opening report available here:
http://www.chess-lovers.org/scid/b45h.html
I tried to go a little further and analyze the position.
http://www.chess-lovers.org/palview4/parties/b45h.htm
I think that 11...dxc6 is not correct. The idea for white is to play
13.Bf4 instead of 13.Rfe1 and black position is difficult to live with.
Much better seems to be 11...h5 immediately and black might be better.
Comments welcomed!
[email protected] wrote :
> Several opening books suggest that White gets an advantage in this
> (rare) Sicilian Four Knights gambit: 1. e4 c5, 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cd4 4.
> Nd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6.Be2 Bb4 7.0-0 Bc3 8.bc3 Ne4 9.Bd3 Nc3 10.Qg4. After
> the (forced?) 10....Qf6 11.Nc6 dc6 12. Bg5 Qe5 13.Re1, Black has the
> funny move 13...h5. It's not clear that White has much here (or even
> earlier.)
>
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Date: 25 Apr 2006 14:12:34
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: 6. Be2 Sicilian Four Knights
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> Several opening books suggest that White gets an advantage in this
> (rare) Sicilian Four Knights gambit: 1. e4 c5, 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cd4 4.
> Nd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6.Be2
6. Nb5 usually transposes into a Pelikan and is probably stronger.
>Bb4 7.0-0 Bc3 8.bc3 Ne4 9.Bd3 Nc3 10.Qg4. After
> the (forced?) 10....Qf6 11.Nc6 dc6 12. Bg5 Qe5 13.Re1, Black has the
> funny move 13...h5. It's not clear that White has much here (or even
> earlier.)
>
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Date: 25 Apr 2006 20:51:34
From: Earine
Subject: Re: 6. Be2 Sicilian Four Knights
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[email protected] wrote:
> Several opening books suggest that White gets an advantage in this
> (rare) Sicilian Four Knights gambit: 1. e4 c5, 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cd4 4.
> Nd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6.Be2 Bb4 7.0-0 Bc3 8.bc3 Ne4 9.Bd3 Nc3 10.Qg4. After
> the (forced?) 10....Qf6 11.Nc6 dc6 12. Bg5 Qe5 13.Re1, Black has the
> funny move 13...h5. It's not clear that White has much here (or even
> earlier.)
>
White has some compensation for the pawns - the bishop pair and better
development. But I also doubt that White has any advantage. The question
is then why would anyone play this gambit? I could think about two reasons:
- You would be more familiar with the position than the opponent.
- There are different playing styles. Some people like to build a strong
solid position. Some like attacking or counter-attacking. Some like
gambit play. And there are also those that like to take the offered
material and defend against a gambit.
Personally I would not play this as White. White is two pawns down,
which means that when the initiave is lost, he will have a hard time.
Then it would not help much to know that theorethically it was equal on
move 13.
-Earine
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Date: 25 Apr 2006 21:15:13
From: Earine
Subject: Re: 6. Be2 Sicilian Four Knights
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Earine wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> Several opening books suggest that White gets an advantage in this
>> (rare) Sicilian Four Knights gambit: 1. e4 c5, 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cd4 4.
>> Nd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6.Be2 Bb4 7.0-0 Bc3 8.bc3 Ne4 9.Bd3 Nc3 10.Qg4. After
>> the (forced?) 10....Qf6 11.Nc6 dc6 12. Bg5 Qe5 13.Re1, Black has the
>> funny move 13...h5. It's not clear that White has much here (or even
>> earlier.)
>>
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> White has some compensation for the pawns - the bishop pair and better
> development. But I also doubt that White has any advantage. The question
> is then why would anyone play this gambit? I could think about two reasons:
>
> - You would be more familiar with the position than the opponent.
>
> - There are different playing styles. Some people like to build a strong
> solid position. Some like attacking or counter-attacking. Some like
> gambit play. And there are also those that like to take the offered
> material and defend against a gambit.
>
> Personally I would not play this as White. White is two pawns down,
> which means that when the initiave is lost, he will have a hard time.
> Then it would not help much to know that theorethically it was equal on
> move 13.
>
> -Earine
One more idea: On a master level the position might be slightly better
for white, because strong players are able to exploit the dynamic
possibilities of the position.
If this line was played by patzers (such as me), I would say that Black
is clearly better.
-Earine
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