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Date: 30 Sep 2006 22:41:43
From: Zero
Subject: Chess and the bathroom
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Hi,
I have a question. If I play in a USCF rated tournament, and let's say
that my opponent decides to use the bathroom during the game. Am I
allowed to file a complaint that my opponent might be cheating? The
reason I ask is that Topalov (a super GM) filed the same complaint in
the world championship. Doesn't Topalov's action have precedent over
anything that happens in the whole world?? If the TD tells me that
nothing is happening, can't I then file a complaint to the USCF?
I think we should have TDs follow players into the bathroom. If the
player is going to use the stall, then maybe the TD should go in there
with them to make sure that they are not cheating. Just a thought.
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Date: 01 Oct 2006 11:14:21
From: Ange1o DePa1ma
Subject: Re: Chess and the bathroom
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"Zero" <[email protected] > wrote
> I have a question. If I play in a USCF rated tournament, and let's say
> that my opponent decides to use the bathroom during the game. Am I
> allowed to file a complaint that my opponent might be cheating?
If he visits the same stall 50 times during a game it should be obvious that
he is either very sick, or he has some reason other than for relieving
himself. I think that is the crux of Topalov's complaint. (Although I
disagree in the manner in which he made his complaint public).
Even at this relatively meager payout of half a million dollars each, I
think we should expect the players not to create even the slightest
suspicion that they are doing something unethical. For $40,000 a game
players could reasonably be expected to remain on stage at all times, except
to go to the bathroom. Because it is so easy to cheat these days, security
for the bathroom should be as tight as possible. I don't know exactly how to
secure it appropriately though.
The
> reason I ask is that Topalov (a super GM) filed the same complaint in
> the world championship. Doesn't Topalov's action have precedent over
> anything that happens in the whole world?? If the TD tells me that
> nothing is happening, can't I then file a complaint to the USCF?
>
> I think we should have TDs follow players into the bathroom. If the
> player is going to use the stall, then maybe the TD should go in there
> with them to make sure that they are not cheating. Just a thought.
>
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Date: 01 Oct 2006 01:29:06
From: diegoami
Subject: Re: Chess and the bathroom
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According to Topalov's team, Kramnik used the bathroom (toilet,
restroom, whatever) 50 times. If your opponent used the bathroom 50
times during the game, then it would be "suspicious" as well.
What would be really suspicious ( and against the rules ) is standing
up when it is your turn to move AND go to the bathroom. When it is your
turn to move, you are supposed to move AND then you can go wherever you
wish.
Kramnik anyway didn't break any rule. But he had a private bathroom,
and other people went in there too, so maybe, just maybe, someone
dropped there tips or electronic devices. You are probably not going to
have your private bathroom during USCF tournaments, so this is not
going to be an issue.
Regards
Diego Amicabile
Zero wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a question. If I play in a USCF rated tournament, and let's say
> that my opponent decides to use the bathroom during the game. Am I
> allowed to file a complaint that my opponent might be cheating? The
> reason I ask is that Topalov (a super GM) filed the same complaint in
> the world championship. Doesn't Topalov's action have precedent over
> anything that happens in the whole world?? If the TD tells me that
> nothing is happening, can't I then file a complaint to the USCF?
>
> I think we should have TDs follow players into the bathroom. If the
> player is going to use the stall, then maybe the TD should go in there
> with them to make sure that they are not cheating. Just a thought.
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Date: 01 Oct 2006 14:22:53
From: mikimaus
Subject: Re: Chess and the bathroom
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> According to Topalov's team, Kramnik used the bathroom (toilet,
> restroom, whatever) 50 times.
According to Kramnik team he used the bathroom at least 12.5 times.
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Date: 01 Oct 2006 11:16:00
From: Ange1o DePa1ma
Subject: Re: Chess and the bathroom
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"mikimaus" <[email protected] > wrote
>> According to Topalov's team, Kramnik used the bathroom (toilet,
>> restroom, whatever) 50 times.
>
> According to Kramnik team he used the bathroom at least 12.5 times.
Unless his prostate gland is the size of a watermelon, which at his age is
unlikely, anything more than 4-5 times during a 6 hour game, to me, is
suspicious.
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