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Date: 21 Jun 2005 20:34:47
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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Here is a short list of famous chess masters I beat in rated
tournament games when they were kids:
Sal Matera (twice)
Bruce Pandolfini
Paul Truong
Eugene Meyer
Dimitry Schneider
George Kane
Steve Tarin
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Date: 24 Jun 2005 04:31:22
From: Sam Sloane
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat-Off
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"Sam Sloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message Here is a short list of
famous chess masters I beat-off when they were kids:
Sal Mineo (twice)
John Gandolfini
Paul Prong
Eugene Levy
Dimitry Potemkin
Calvin Klein
Ted Bundy
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Date: 23 Jun 2005 12:51:44
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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Sam Sloan wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:05:01 GMT, "N. Silver"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >James Rynd wrote:
> >
> >> Steve Tarin? I don't keep up with all the latest, but that name has no
> >> ring of fame....
> >
> >Steve is famous for embarrassing Columbia University.
> >After having played on its chess team for years, it was
> >discovered he was ineligible, never having enrolled.
>
> Very interesting, because Tarin drew Tom Dorsch in the last round of
> the 1963 US Intercollegiate Championship in Notre Dame, Indiana.
>
> With this draw, my team at the University of California at Berkeley
> tied for first with University of Texas led by Henry David and Steve
> Jones. Columbia finished third.
>
> I hereupon demand that Tarin be forfeited this last round game with
> Dorsch. With this forfeit, the University of California at Berkeley
> should be declared the winner oif the 1963 US Intercollegiate
> Championship.
>
> Sam Sloan
Sorry. I meant to write Henry Davis and Steve Jones.
Of course, I am not sure whether Tom Dorsch was a registered Student at
the University of California at Berkeley that Semester.
I do believe that Dorsch had been a student but was not a student that
semester.
So not registered student Dorsch was playing for the intercollegiate
championship against never had been student Tarin.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 22 Jun 2005 18:17:39
From: EZoto
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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>Here is a short list of famous chess masters I beat in rated
>tournament games when they were kids:
>
>Paul Truong
Now I know what has been bothering Paul Troung all these years ago. I
can understand why he never mentioned it.
EZoto
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Date: 22 Jun 2005 09:03:11
From:
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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Dod you beat IM Jack Mehoff?
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Date: 22 Jun 2005 08:47:23
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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> Here is a short list of famous chess masters I beat in rated
> tournament games when they were kids:
>
> Sal Matera (twice)
> Bruce Pandolfini
> Paul Truong
> Eugene Meyer
> Dimitry Schneider
> George Kane
> Steve Tarin
I know I crushed Dean Ippolito a few times in NJ when he was about 12.
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Date: 22 Jun 2005 09:27:11
From: Terry
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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"Sam Sloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Here is a short list of famous chess masters I beat in rated
> tournament games when they were kids:
>
> Sal Matera (twice)
> Bruce Pandolfini
> Paul Truong
> Eugene Meyer
> Dimitry Schneider
> George Kane
> Steve Tarin
Famous masters ?????????
Never heard of them !
Regards
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Date: 22 Jun 2005 01:20:03
From: Lee Harris
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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how many times did you beat Jeroen Meat?
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Date: 21 Jun 2005 18:19:39
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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Sam Sloan wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:44:06 GMT, [email protected] (Frisco Del
> Rosario) wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >> Here is a short list of famous chess masters I beat in rated
> >> tournament games when they were kids:
> >
> >When Laura Ross makes master, Sam is going to make a serious mess of this list.
> >
> >--
> >Frisco Del Rosario
> >A First Book of Morphy -- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1412039061
>
> I never beat Laura Ross a tournament game.
>
> I did once give her odds of queen, knight AND bishop in a teaching
> friendly game when she was about six years old in 1994 and beat her.
OH MY GOD!!
You're the MAN, Sloan! Beating a six-year old at queen, knight and
bishop odds??! My God....I can't believe you're not in contention for
the world championship.
MN
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Date: 22 Jun 2005 00:44:06
From: Frisco Del Rosario
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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In article <[email protected] >, [email protected] wrote:
> Here is a short list of famous chess masters I beat in rated
> tournament games when they were kids:
When Laura Ross makes master, Sam is going to make a serious mess of this list.
--
Frisco Del Rosario
A First Book of Morphy -- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1412039061
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Date: 24 Jun 2005 04:37:18
From: Sam Sloane
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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"Crisco Del Testicle" < > When Laura Ross makes master, Sam is going to make
a serious mess of this list.
>
Her sister Betsy Ross was a real hard-ass. I beat-off her little brother
during the final round of the Civil War Classic back in October of 1864. I
can't seem to find the clippings for that incredible battle of wits, but it
was published in the New York Times with commentary by Chester Arthur.
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Date: 22 Jun 2005 01:01:31
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:44:06 GMT, [email protected] (Frisco Del
Rosario) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Here is a short list of famous chess masters I beat in rated
>> tournament games when they were kids:
>
>When Laura Ross makes master, Sam is going to make a serious mess of this list.
>
>--
>Frisco Del Rosario
>A First Book of Morphy -- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1412039061
I never beat Laura Ross a tournament game.
I did once give her odds of queen, knight AND bishop in a teaching
friendly game when she was about six years old in 1994 and beat her. I
lost several other games to her at the same odds and finally decided
that she was too good for those odds.
I beat Jeffrey Sarwer (famous for being depicted as the losing
finalist in the movie "Searching for Boibby Fischer") in a tournament
game, but he never made master.
I just remembered that I beat Louis Cohen who I believe did make
master before he quit chess, but when I beat him he was not really a
kid any more and he was rated about 2160.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 22 Jun 2005 06:28:57
From: Frisco Del Rosario
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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In article <[email protected] >, [email protected] wrote:
> I never beat Laura Ross a tournament game.
Oh, a thousand pardons. It was Alanna Katz to whom Sam referred as the
"most beautiful girl [he] ever played a chess game against".
--
Frisco Del Rosario
A First Book of Morphy -- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1412039061
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Date: 21 Jun 2005 16:40:32
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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Sam Sloan wrote:
> Another game I won in the same tournament was I defeated Miss Gilham
> MacMahon, who later ried Dr. Norman Hornstein and played postal
> chess as Gilham Hornstein, becoming one of the top female postal
> players in the country (but her husband was obviously making the
> moves), This is one of the "masters" that Taylor Kingston so proudly
> proclaims that he defeated in postal chess.
Wrong as usual, Sam. I played Norman Hornstein, not Gilham, in the
1981 Golden Knights Finals 1981, and the game was a draw.
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Date: 21 Jun 2005 23:28:45
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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I want to add that the first player I ever beat who became a chess
master was David Steele.
http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlTnmtHst.php?10207380
I beat him in the North Carolina 30-30 in Raleigh in 1957 or 1958 when
I was 12 or 13 years old. He was a year or two older than me, I
believe.
It was an amazingly bad game. I was black. He moved his knoght to b5
and then to c7, forking my king and rook, winning my rook.
I then did the same thing to him. I moved my knight to b4 and c2,
forking his king and rook, winning his rook. I eventually checkmated
him.
In spite of this, he was a much stronger player than I was. He later
beat me two games that I can remember.
I did not include him in my list of famous chess masters I defeated
because he was not famous.
Another game I won in the same tournament was I defeated Miss Gilham
MacMahon, who later ried Dr. Norman Hornstein and played postal
chess as Gilham Hornstein, becoming one of the top female postal
players in the country (but her husband was obviously making the
moves), This is one of the "masters" that Taylor Kingston so proudly
proclaims that he defeated in postal chess.
My game against Gillham MacMahon was noteworthy because after she lost
to me she went out in the hallway and cried like a baby. For years
after, my father talked about how all the male chess players gathered
around her and told her not to feel bad about losing because of how
good I was.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 22 Jun 2005 08:48:16
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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>I want to add that the first player I ever beat who became a chess
> master was David Steele.
I once got a draw against Asa Hoffman in a quad at the Manhattan, which cost
him $12.50 as it enabled me to tie him for first.
Asa doesn't give up money easily over the board.
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Date: 21 Jun 2005 14:43:11
From: R.P. Warren
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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Sam Sloan wrote:
> Here is a short list of famous chess masters I beat in rated
> tournament games when they were kids:
More in our continuing series of fascinating Sloan games:
Garcia-Sloan, World Open, Philadelphia, 1989
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 The Berlin Defence. No doubt Kramnik was
inspired to use it against Kasparov in their 2000 World Championship
match by Sloan's pioneering effort here. 4.O-O Nxe4 5.d4 Be7 6.Qe2
Nd6 7.Bxc6 bxc6 8.dxe5 Nb7 9.Nc3 Nc5 10.Rd1 O-O 11.Nd4 Qe8 12.Nf5 f6
13.Qg4 Ne6 14.Bh6 Rf7 15.Rd3 fxe5 White has a bit of an attack, but
Black's defensive resources look adequate, and now he has an extra
pawn. 16.Rg3 d6 17.Qh5 Nf4?? An amazing blunder. With 17...Bf8 Black
could have held. 18.Rxg7+ Kh8 19.Qxf7 Bxf5 20.Rxh7+ 1-0.
Sloan-Wisener, World Open Action Quad, Philadelphia, 1989
1.g4 h6 2.Bg2 d5 3.d3 Bxg4 4.c4 e6 5.Qb3 Qc8 6.cxd5 c6 7.dxe6 Bxe6
8.Qa4 Nf6 9.Nc3 Be7 10.Nf3 Nbd7 11.Rg1 Nb6 12.Qc2 Nfd5 13.Bh1 Rg8
14.Bd2 (14.Bxh6!? wins a pawn, but maybe it's better not to open the
h-file.) 14...Qc7 15.Rc1 Nb4 16.Qb1 Rd8 17.a3 N4d5 18.Nb5 Qb8 19.Nbd4
Bc8 20.b4 (A good idea, increasing pressure on the c-file.) 20...a6
21.e4 Nf4 22.e5 Nbd5 23.Rc4 Kf8?! (better 23...Ng6) 24.Nxc6! Nxd3?
(Better 24.bxc6 25.Bxf4 Nxf4 26.Rxf4 g5, when Black probably stands
better.) 25.Qxd3 bxc6 Now with 26.Qh7! White would be in good shape.
Instead ... 26.Rxc6?? Nxb4! 0-1
Lehman-Sloan, Foster City 1996
This one may not be an actual Sloan loss, judging by the final
position, but he certainly blew a won game around moves 22-27.
1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Nf3 Be7 4.Bc4 Nf6 5.O-O Nxe4 6.Nc3 Nf6 7.d4 d5
8.Bd3 Bg4 9.Bxf4 Nc6 10.Nb5 O-O 11.Bxc7 Qd7 12.Be5 Nxe5 13.dxe5 Ne4
14.Nd6? Gives up a pawn for little or nothing. 14...Nxd6 15.exd6 Qxd6
16.Qd2 Bf6 17.c3 d4 18.Kh1 Rfd8 19.Ng5?? (better Rad1) 19...dxc3
20.Bxh7+ Kf8 21.Qf2 cxb2 22.Rab1? (better 22.Rae1) 22...Qd5? Missing a
chance to win immediately by 22...Qd4!. Now Black drifts from OK to bad
to worse. 23.Ne4 Bd4 24.Qg3 Qh5?! (better ...Be6) 25.Qa3+! Ke8 26.Rbe1
Be6 27.Bf5 Be5? (27...b1Q! 28.Rxb1 Be6 and Black is equal or better,
but now he is lost.) 28.Ng3 Bxg3 29.Qxg3 Qh6? (There was a bit more
hope in 29...b1Q 30.Bxb1 Kd7.) 30.Rxe6+! fxe6 31.Bg6+ Kd7 32.Rf7+ Kc6
33.Qc7+ Kb5 34.Qxb7+ (34.a4+! Kxa4 Qc4+ and mate soon) 34...Kc5 35.Rc7+
Kd4 36.Qxb2+ Ke3 37.Rc3+ Kf4 38.Qb4+ Ke5 39.Qe4+ Ke7 40.Qd4+? Mate
could have been forced by 40.Rc6+ etc. Now actually Black is better.
40...Ke7 41.Rc7+ Kf8 42.Qf2+ Kg8 and the database says 1-0 here, though
Black is not lost on the board.
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Date: 21 Jun 2005 13:42:29
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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Steve Tarin? I don't keep up with all the latest, but that name has no
ring of fame....
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Date: 21 Jun 2005 13:42:26
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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Steve Tarin? I don't keep up with all the latest, but that name has no
ring of fame....
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Date: 22 Jun 2005 09:05:01
From: N. Silver
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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James Rynd wrote:
> Steve Tarin? I don't keep up with all the latest, but that name has no
> ring of fame....
Steve is famous for embarrassing Columbia University.
After having played on its chess team for years, it was
discovered he was ineligible, never having enrolled.
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Date: 23 Jun 2005 04:04:31
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: Famous Masters I Beat When They Were Kids
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:05:01 GMT, "N. Silver"
<[email protected] > wrote:
>James Rynd wrote:
>
>> Steve Tarin? I don't keep up with all the latest, but that name has no
>> ring of fame....
>
>Steve is famous for embarrassing Columbia University.
>After having played on its chess team for years, it was
>discovered he was ineligible, never having enrolled.
Very interesting, because Tarin drew Tom Dorsch in the last round of
the 1963 US Intercollegiate Championship in Notre Dame, Indiana.
With this draw, my team at the University of California at Berkeley
tied for first with University of Texas led by Henry David and Steve
Jones. Columbia finished third.
I hereupon demand that Tarin be forfeited this last round game with
Dorsch. With this forfeit, the University of California at Berkeley
should be declared the winner oif the 1963 US Intercollegiate
Championship.
Sam Sloan
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