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Date: 04 Feb 2009 21:50:55
From: Sanny
Subject: GetClub playing better than all time.

After the bug was removed 2 days back GetClub is playing very decent moves. Play Chess : http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html Lets see who will snatch the first position at GetClub this month. Its very difficult to get a win against even the Beginner Level. I taked to Rybka Server people and they told me that the server I am playing with is thinking only 1 sec / move. So Rybka at 1 sec / move plays as Good as GetClub getting 20 sec / move. So GetClub is still 20 times weaker than Rybka. Bye Sanny Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html



Date: 06 Feb 2009 09:39:18
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: GetClub still sucks, loses again to pcriot.com (was:GetClub

On Feb 6, 11:19=A0am, Sanny <softtank...@hotmail.com > wrote: > > 28. Rd5d6 (46) Kc8c7 (18) > > 29. c2c3? (46) > > > =A0 With another chance to gain the advantage, GetClub blows it again. > > Correct was 29.Bd5! cxd5 30.Nxd5+ Kb8 31.Rxa6. > > Whats the point in sacrificing a Bishop for 2 Pawns? Just for > attacking the Queen? You're not analyzing it thoroughly, Sanny. White ends up winning Black's queen after 29. Bd5 cxd5 30. Nxd5+ Kb8 31. Rxa6. If he tries to avoid it, he gets mated, e.g. 31... Qd4 32. Reb6+ Kc8 33. Ra8+ Kd7 34. Ra7+ Kc8 35. Ne7+ Kd8 36. Rb8#. Therefore relatively best is 31...Qxa6 32. Rxa6, when material is even and White has a lot of play with his active pieces and two passed pawns.


Date: 06 Feb 2009 08:19:23
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GetClub still sucks, loses again to pcriot.com (was:GetClub

> 28. Rd5d6 (46) Kc8c7 (18) > 29. c2c3? (46) > > =A0 With another chance to gain the advantage, GetClub blows it again. > Correct was 29.Bd5! cxd5 30.Nxd5+ Kb8 31.Rxa6. Whats the point in sacrificing a Bishop for 2 Pawns? Just for attacking the Queen? Bye Sanny Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


Date: 06 Feb 2009 06:56:39
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: GetClub still sucks, loses again to pcriot.com (was:GetClub

I also tried Cisana's applet against GetClub's next higher level, the "Easy" level. The name is apt. Cisana's program made some mistakes that prolonged the game, but on the whole It was indeed pretty easy to beat GetClub: Getclub (easy level)  Cisana applet, 6 February 2009: 1. e2e4 (2) d7d5 (20) 2. e4d5 (0) Qd8d5 (10) 3. Ng1f3 (0) Bc8g4 (30) 4. d2d4 (40) Bg4f3 (36) 5. g2f3 (28) Nb8c6 (16) 6. Bc1e3 (30) 000 (18) After just six moves Black already stands better. 7. Nb1c3 (28) Qd5a5 (16) 8. Bf1b5 (22)?? And now a serious mistake. Better 8.Qd2 or Qd3 intending 9.000. 8 ... Nc6d4! (14) Of course! 9. Be3d4 (30) c7c5?! (22) Much of Black's subsequent difficulty stem from this. Much better was 9...e4, winning back the piece and developing the KB without weakening the pawn structure in the king's field. 10. Bd4c5 (22) Rd8d1 (14) 11. Ra1d1 (22) Ng8f6 (14) 12. 00 (24) a7a6 (14) 13. b2b4 (26) Qa5c7 (14) 14. Bb5e2 (22) Nf6d7?! (14) Natural and much stronger here was 14...e6 15. Nc3d5 (24) Qc7e5?! (18) Better 15...Qc6 16. Nd5e3? (88) White misses 16.Nb6+! Nxb6 17.Bxb6 Qg5+ 18.Kh1 e6 19.Rg1 Qf6 20.Rd8+ Kxd8 21.Bxd8 Kxd8, restoring material equality. 16 ... Qe5g5 (22) 17. Kg1h1 (24) Nd7c5 (18) 18. Rd1d5 (22) e7e5 (14) 19. b4c5 (34) Qg5f6?! (14) Much better was 19...Be7 intending 20...Rd8, to exchange some rooks. Black's QvsR+N advantage increases as pieces leave the board. 20. Rf1d1 (40) Qf6c6? (16) Again, 20...Be7 was natural and good. Now Black gets into some trouble. 21. Rd5d8 (40) Kc8c7 (32) 22. Rd1d5? (0) Instead, 22.Ra8! intending 23.Rdd8 would have given White the upper hand. 22. ... g7g6 (16) 23. Kh1g1 (76) Bf8g7 (16) 24. Rd8d6 (28) Qc6a4 (14) 25. Be2c4 (30) f7f5 (22) 26. Rd6e6 (50) Kc7c8 (18) 27. c5c6 (46) b7c6 (16) 28. Rd5d6 (46) Kc8c7 (18) 29. c2c3? (46) With another chance to gain the advantage, GetClub blows it again. Correct was 29.Bd5! cxd5 30.Nxd5+ Kb8 31.Rxa6. 29. ... a6a5? (16) 30. Kg1h1?? (90) Blowing it yet again! 30.Bd5! would still have worked. 30. ... Rh8d8! (18) Finally! Now Black is out of danger. The text simplifies to an ending where Black is up rook for knight. The rest of the game needs no commentary. 31. Rd6c6 (60) Qa4c6 (14) 32. Re6c6 (26) Kc7c6 (12) 33. a2a4 (20) Kc6c5 (18) 34. Bc4b5 (26) Rd8d2 (16) 35. Kh1g2 (64) Rd2a2 (20) 36. c3c4 (36) Bg7f6 (14) 37. Kg2f1 (44) Bf6g5 (22) 38. Kf1e1 (28) Bg5e3 (12) 39. f2e3 (30) Ra2h2 (10) 40. Ke1f1 (24) g6g5 (10) 41. Bb5a6 (30) h7h5 (8) 42. Ba6b5 (28) g5g4 (8) 43. f3g4 (20) f5g4 (8) 44. Kf1e1 (32) g4g3 (10) 45. e3e4 (44) Rh2h1 (12) 46. Ke1d2 (28) g3g2 (8) 47. Bb5e8 (96) Notice that Getclub took considerably longer on average. Black's times were actually slightly less than shown, by 5 to 10 seconds, due to having to enter moves by hand.


Date: 05 Feb 2009 07:56:45
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GetClub still sucks, loses again to pcriot.com (was:GetClub

> it now plays even > worse. Some of its moves in the following game are downright foolish. Which were the wrong moves and what shoild it have played instead? > =A0GetClub(beginner level)  Cisana, 5 February 2009: > > 1. d2d4 (2) c7c5 (24) > 2. d4d5 (0) Qd8a5 (14) > 3. Nb1c3 (6) Ng8f6 (14) > 4. Bc1f4 (24) Qa5b4 (16) > 5. e2e3 (22) Nf6d5 (18) > 6. a2a3 (0) Nd5c3 (16) > 7. a3b4 (6) Nc3d1 (10) > 8. Ke1d1 (12) Nb8c6 (12) > 9. b4c5 (6) e7e5 (12) > 10. Bf4g3 (8) Bf8c5 (14) > 11. Bf1b5 (8) d7d6 (14) > 12. Ra1a6 (10) Bc8d7 (18) > 13. Ra6a4 (6) a7a6 (16) > 14. Bg3h4 (6) Ke8g8 (14) > 15. Bb5c6 (8) Bd7c6 (18) > 16. Ra4g4 (0) f7f5 (16) > 17. Rg4g3 (12) f5f4 (14) > 18. Rg3g4 (0) Bc6d7 (14) > 19. h2h3 (14) f4e3 (20) > 20. f2e3 (14) Bd7g4 (14) > 21. h3g4 (8) Bc5e3 (10) > 22. Ng1f3 (10) e5e4 (16) > 23. Nf3g5 (6) Be3g5 (10) > 24. Bh4g5 (6) Rf8f2 (10) > 25. Rh1h2 (12) Ra8c8 (12) > 26. Bg5d2 (8) h7h6 (22) > 27. c2c3 (6) Rc8e8 (14) > 28. Kd1c1 (10) e4e3 (10) > 29. Bd2e1 (10) Re8e4 (20) > 30. b2b3 (6) Rf2a2 (16) > 31. Be1g3 (8) Re4g4 (16) > 32. Kc1b1 (6) Ra2d2 (14) > 33. Rh2h3 (6) e3e2 (12) > 34. Kb1c1 (10) Rd2d1 (12) > 35. Kc1b2 (6) Rg4g3 (12) > 36. Rh3h4 (14) e2e1=3DQ (20) > > =A0 01 Just let me know the wrong moves then I will see if that can be removed. > =A0 Numbers in parentheses areGetClub'sreport of time for each move. > Cisana's applet usually moved faster, but its times show as longer due > to my having to enter moves manually for it. How much time it was taking per move? 10sec / move? Bye Sanny Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

 
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From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: GetClub still sucks, loses again to pcriot.com



Date: 05 Feb 2009 06:09:24
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Subject: GetClub still sucks, loses again to pcriot.com (was:GetClub playing

On Feb 5, 12:50=A0am, Sanny <softtank...@hotmail.com > wrote: > After the bug was removed 2 days back GetClub is playing very decent > moves. > > Play Chess :http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html > > Lets see who will snatch the first position at GetClub this month. > > Its very difficult to get a win against even the Beginner Level. No, Sanny, GetClub still sucks more than a Hoover vaccumcleaner. After you removed the "bug" that supposedly caused it to lose to Gianluca Cisana's applet (http://chess.pcriot.com), it now plays even worse. Some of its moves in the following game are downright foolish. GetClub (beginner level)  Cisana, 5 February 2009: 1. d2d4 (2) c7c5 (24) 2. d4d5 (0) Qd8a5 (14) 3. Nb1c3 (6) Ng8f6 (14) 4. Bc1f4 (24) Qa5b4 (16) 5. e2e3 (22) Nf6d5 (18) 6. a2a3 (0) Nd5c3 (16) 7. a3b4 (6) Nc3d1 (10) 8. Ke1d1 (12) Nb8c6 (12) 9. b4c5 (6) e7e5 (12) 10. Bf4g3 (8) Bf8c5 (14) 11. Bf1b5 (8) d7d6 (14) 12. Ra1a6 (10) Bc8d7 (18) 13. Ra6a4 (6) a7a6 (16) 14. Bg3h4 (6) Ke8g8 (14) 15. Bb5c6 (8) Bd7c6 (18) 16. Ra4g4 (0) f7f5 (16) 17. Rg4g3 (12) f5f4 (14) 18. Rg3g4 (0) Bc6d7 (14) 19. h2h3 (14) f4e3 (20) 20. f2e3 (14) Bd7g4 (14) 21. h3g4 (8) Bc5e3 (10) 22. Ng1f3 (10) e5e4 (16) 23. Nf3g5 (6) Be3g5 (10) 24. Bh4g5 (6) Rf8f2 (10) 25. Rh1h2 (12) Ra8c8 (12) 26. Bg5d2 (8) h7h6 (22) 27. c2c3 (6) Rc8e8 (14) 28. Kd1c1 (10) e4e3 (10) 29. Bd2e1 (10) Re8e4 (20) 30. b2b3 (6) Rf2a2 (16) 31. Be1g3 (8) Re4g4 (16) 32. Kc1b1 (6) Ra2d2 (14) 33. Rh2h3 (6) e3e2 (12) 34. Kb1c1 (10) Rd2d1 (12) 35. Kc1b2 (6) Rg4g3 (12) 36. Rh3h4 (14) e2e1=3DQ (20) 01 Numbers in parentheses are GetClub's report of time for each move. Cisana's applet usually moved faster, but its times show as longer due to my having to enter moves manually for it.

