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Date: 03 Nov 2005 14:44:17
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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ChessBase News reports that former world champion Anatoly Karpov
defeated Grandmaster Zsuzsa Polgar with the move 1. g4.
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2713
There were problems with the sensory chessboard at the Karpov vs.
Polgar match so it is not known whether the moves to the Karpov-Polgar
six game match were preserved. The match ended in a 3-3 tie. The other
two games in which Karpov had white were drawn. This proves that
Karpov did better with 1.g4 than with other moves.
Sam Sloan also once defeated Zsuzsa Polgar and several times defeated
Judit Polgar and Sophia Polgar in blitz games with the move 1. g4.
This proves once again that the move 1. g4 can be played with success
even at the World Championship level.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 11 Nov 2005 08:15:46
From: JEH
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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I played the Grob many years ago after reading The Tactical Grob
by Claude Bloodgood (check out
http://www.chessville.com/downloads/misc_downloads.htm#TacticalGrob)
I scored 3/3 in Major tournaments with it, twice due to players
falling for the Qa4+ trap picking up their Bishop on g4. I've met it
once as Black in a tournament and won with the plan of e5, Ne7, Ng6
hitting the weakness caused by g4. But I gave it up to play recommended
stuff.
JEH
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Date: 09 Nov 2005 17:43:15
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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I can beat both of them in bullet on ICC.
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Date: 07 Nov 2005 12:43:31
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (wlod)
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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[email protected] wrote:
> Also, the article states that Polgar was distracted by Gorbachev
> serving Karpov and her water. Due to this, she froze and lost the
> game. This indicates that the opening did not necessarily win the
> game.
>
> Ron Suarez
Indeed, if Gorbachev would deliver Karpov's waters
to any chessplayer, s/he would be excused for
freezing. Or was Gorbachev delivering Zsusa's waters?
Or his own!? to both players. Shocking!
====
Wlod
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Date: 07 Nov 2005 07:51:09
From: Liam Too
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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Jerzy wrote:
> >I wonder who Gorbachev was rooting for when Karpov was playing against
> > Korchnoi in 1978 and 1981? Or in the matches betweeen Karpov and
> > Kasparov?
> > BTW, the names Gorbie and Grob (presumably,inventor of 1.g4) sound
> > almost alike- so is it possible to say that Gorbie's 1.g4 is the last
> > nail in Grob's opening? Incidentally, the word "grob" as pronounced in
> > Russian means "coffin". Did Gorbachev drive in the last nail in Grob's
> > Opening?
> > Lev Khariton
>
> As a matter of fact he did resurrect the Grob opening from the Grave :D
>
> Thank You, Mr.Gorbachev !
You misspelled his name Jerzy, it's Grobachev!
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Date: 07 Nov 2005 19:52:24
From: Jerzy
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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>> As a matter of fact he did resurrect the Grob opening from the Grave :D
>>
>> Thank You, Mr.Gorbachev !
>
> You misspelled his name Jerzy, it's Grobachev!
Oh, those arrogant United Statesians, they teach others but not themselves
:D
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Date: 06 Nov 2005 16:14:37
From:
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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I wonder who Gorbachev was rooting for when Karpov was playing against
Korchnoi in 1978 and 1981? Or in the matches betweeen Karpov and
Kasparov?
BTW, the names Gorbie and Grob (presumably,inventor of 1.g4) sound
almost alike- so is it possible to say that Gorbie's 1.g4 is the last
nail in Grob's opening? Incidentally, the word "grob" as pronounced in
Russian means "coffin". Did Gorbachev drive in the last nail in Grob's
Opening?
Lev Khariton
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Date: 07 Nov 2005 16:36:05
From: Jerzy
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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>I wonder who Gorbachev was rooting for when Karpov was playing against
> Korchnoi in 1978 and 1981? Or in the matches betweeen Karpov and
> Kasparov?
> BTW, the names Gorbie and Grob (presumably,inventor of 1.g4) sound
> almost alike- so is it possible to say that Gorbie's 1.g4 is the last
> nail in Grob's opening? Incidentally, the word "grob" as pronounced in
> Russian means "coffin". Did Gorbachev drive in the last nail in Grob's
> Opening?
> Lev Khariton
As a matter of fact he did resurrect the Grob opening from the Grave :D
Thank You, Mr.Gorbachev !
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Date: 07 Nov 2005 16:49:34
From: Luigi Caselli
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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"Jerzy" <[email protected] > ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[email protected]...
>
> >I wonder who Gorbachev was rooting for when Karpov was playing against
> > Korchnoi in 1978 and 1981? Or in the matches betweeen Karpov and
> > Kasparov?
> > BTW, the names Gorbie and Grob (presumably,inventor of 1.g4) sound
> > almost alike- so is it possible to say that Gorbie's 1.g4 is the last
> > nail in Grob's opening? Incidentally, the word "grob" as pronounced in
> > Russian means "coffin". Did Gorbachev drive in the last nail in Grob's
> > Opening?
> > Lev Khariton
>
> As a matter of fact he did resurrect the Grob opening from the Grave :D
>
> Thank You, Mr.Gorbachev !
Now I prefer to call him Mr.Grobachev... :-)
Luigi Caselli
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Date: 08 Nov 2005 16:36:26
From: Jerzy
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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>>
>> As a matter of fact he did resurrect the Grob opening from the Grave :D
>>
>> Thank You, Mr.Gorbachev !
>
> Now I prefer to call him Mr.Grobachev... :-)
>
> Luigi Caselli
Would you be happy if somebody distorted on purpose your name ?
BTW Gorb means in Russian Hump, so maybe you should call him Humpy ?
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Date: 08 Nov 2005 20:11:49
From: Luigi Caselli
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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"Jerzy" <[email protected] > ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> As a matter of fact he did resurrect the Grob opening from the Grave :D
> >>
> >> Thank You, Mr.Gorbachev !
> >
> > Now I prefer to call him Mr.Grobachev... :-)
> >
> > Luigi Caselli
>
> Would you be happy if somebody distorted on purpose your name ?
Not at all...
Ligui Cesalil
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Date: 10 Nov 2005 16:41:10
From: Jerzy
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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>> Would you be happy if somebody distorted on purpose your name ?
>
> Not at all...
>
> Ligui Cesalil
>
OK Jesus Christ
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Date: 05 Nov 2005 10:30:52
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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The Man Behind The Curtain wrote:
> Okay, you'll see it on the cover of Eric Schiller's next CD-ROM: THE
> UNDEFEATABLE OPENING G4! coming soon from Cardoza Publishers.
Which will no doubt make the claim that "The Spike" by Arnaud De
Borchgrave & Robert Moss is the best book on the opening.
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Date: 05 Nov 2005 01:49:10
From: Alfanje
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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Can anyone copypaste the .pgn if the game is available?
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Date: 06 Nov 2005 19:44:53
From: Norman Kaye
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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"Alfanje" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Can anyone copypaste the .pgn if the game is available?
>Me too---all this talk BUT where is the game?????
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Date: 04 Nov 2005 19:45:02
From: The Man Behind The Curtain
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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Sam Sloan wrote:
> ChessBase News reports that former world champion Anatoly Karpov
> defeated Grandmaster Zsuzsa Polgar with the move 1. g4.
>
> http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2713
>
> There were problems with the sensory chessboard at the Karpov vs.
> Polgar match so it is not known whether the moves to the Karpov-Polgar
> six game match were preserved. The match ended in a 3-3 tie. The other
> two games in which Karpov had white were drawn. This proves that
> Karpov did better with 1.g4 than with other moves.
>
> Sam Sloan also once defeated Zsuzsa Polgar and several times defeated
> Judit Polgar and Sophia Polgar in blitz games with the move 1. g4.
Could you refer us to sites with any of these games. I'd like to see
them. Thanks.
John
(P.S.: I don't mean your site. I mean legitimate sites. Thanks.)
--
Von Herzen, moge es wieder zu Herzen gehen. --Beethoven
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Date: 04 Nov 2005 07:42:18
From:
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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Sam Sloan wrote:
<Snip
> I am sure that Paul Truong wrote this, not Susan. Susan does not make
> excuses for losing chess games, especially not for losing a chess game
> to former World Champion Karpov.
>
> Paul Truong wants to excuse Susan for losing a chess game to 1. g4.
> However, there is another reason she lost. Susan lost, because 1. g4
> is the best move!
>
> Paul Truong makes the claim that Susan got the advantage because
> Karpov was required by Gorbachov to play 1. g4. I doubt that Susan
> really had the advantage that Paul claims she had. This happens to me
> all the time. My opponent thinks that he has the advantage against me,
> but still I win the game.
>
> Sam Sloan
That's because you play against 10 year old kids...
If 1. g4 were really all that, you would see it in world class games.
Ron Suarez
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Date: 04 Nov 2005 19:39:20
From: The Man Behind The Curtain
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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[email protected] wrote:
> Sam Sloan wrote:
>>Paul Truong makes the claim that Susan got the advantage because
>>Karpov was required by Gorbachov to play 1. g4. I doubt that Susan
>>really had the advantage that Paul claims she had. This happens to me
>>all the time. My opponent thinks that he has the advantage against me,
>>but still I win the game.
>>
>>Sam Sloan
>
>
> That's because you play against 10 year old kids...
>
> If 1. g4 were really all that, you would see it in world class games.
>
> Ron Suarez
>
You'll see it on the cover of Eric Schiller's next book: THE
UNDEFEATABLE OPENING G4! coming soon from Cardoza Publishers.
John
--
Von Herzen, moge es wieder zu Herzen gehen. --Beethoven
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Date: 05 Nov 2005 13:57:19
From:
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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The Man Behind The Curtain wrote:
>You'll see it on the cover of Eric Schiller's next book: THE
>UNDEFEATABLE OPENING G4! coming soon from Cardoza Publishers.
Please don't crosspost to rec.games.chess.computers unless your
post is about computer chess.
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Date: 05 Nov 2005 18:08:33
From: The Man Behind The Curtain
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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_@_._ wrote:
> The Man Behind The Curtain wrote:
>
>
>>You'll see it on the cover of Eric Schiller's next book: THE
>>UNDEFEATABLE OPENING G4! coming soon from Cardoza Publishers.
>
>
> Please don't crosspost to rec.games.chess.computers unless your
> post is about computer chess.
>
Okay, you'll see it on the cover of Eric Schiller's next CD-ROM: THE
UNDEFEATABLE OPENING G4! coming soon from Cardoza Publishers.
John
--
Von Herzen, moge es wieder zu Herzen gehen. --Beethoven
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Date: 05 Nov 2005 08:30:50
From: Harold Buck
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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In article <[email protected] >, _@_._ wrote:
> The Man Behind The Curtain wrote:
>
> >You'll see it on the cover of Eric Schiller's next book: THE
> >UNDEFEATABLE OPENING G4! coming soon from Cardoza Publishers.
>
> Please don't crosspost to rec.games.chess.computers unless your
> post is about computer chess.
Dear genius:
Was your post about computer chess? No? Then why did YOU cross-post to
rec.games.chess.computers?
What you need is a way to filter out all crossposted messages, since
there will ever be people who post to every group with chess in it for
no apparent reason, and most of us don't notice it's crossposted when we
reply.
--Harold Buck
"I used to rock and roll all night,
and party every day.
Then it was every other day. . . ."
-Homer J. Simpson
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Date: 04 Nov 2005 08:06:49
From: J�rgen R.
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 14:44:17 GMT, [email protected] (Sam Sloan)
wrote:
>ChessBase News reports that former world champion Anatoly Karpov
>defeated Grandmaster Zsuzsa Polgar with the move 1. g4.
>
>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2713
>
>There were problems with the sensory chessboard at the Karpov vs.
>Polgar match so it is not known whether the moves to the Karpov-Polgar
>six game match were preserved. The match ended in a 3-3 tie. The other
>two games in which Karpov had white were drawn. This proves that
>Karpov did better with 1.g4 than with other moves.
>
>Sam Sloan also once defeated Zsuzsa Polgar and several times defeated
>Judit Polgar and Sophia Polgar in blitz games with the move 1. g4.
>
>This proves once again that the move 1. g4 can be played with success
>even at the World Championship level.
>
>Sam Sloan
Horse's arse.
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Date: 03 Nov 2005 14:27:44
From: Larry Tapper
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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> Sam Sloan also once defeated Zsuzsa Polgar and several times defeated
> Judit Polgar and Sophia Polgar in blitz games with the move 1. g4.
Nice! I can't resist asking though, how old were they at the time? My
guess is the answer will turn out to be something like 15, 8 and 10,
respectively.
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Date: 04 Nov 2005 06:38:47
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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On 3 Nov 2005 14:27:44 -0800, "Larry Tapper" <[email protected] >
wrote:
>> Sam Sloan also once defeated Zsuzsa Polgar and several times defeated
>> Judit Polgar and Sophia Polgar in blitz games with the move 1. g4.
>
>Nice! I can't resist asking though, how old were they at the time? My
>guess is the answer will turn out to be something like 15, 8 and 10,
>respectively.
This was in mid-1986, so they were 16, 11 and 10.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 03 Nov 2005 22:30:37
From: rlsuth
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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I don't believe he ever beat any of them, at any age.
"Larry Tapper" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Sam Sloan also once defeated Zsuzsa Polgar and several times defeated
> > Judit Polgar and Sophia Polgar in blitz games with the move 1. g4.
>
> Nice! I can't resist asking though, how old were they at the time? My
> guess is the answer will turn out to be something like 15, 8 and 10,
> respectively.
>
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Date: 03 Nov 2005 13:00:38
From: Henri Arsenault
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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In article <[email protected] >, [email protected] wrote:
>ChessBase News reports that former world champion Anatoly Karpov
>defeated Grandmaster Zsuzsa Polgar with the move 1. g4.
>
Karpov would not have played the move, it was played by Gorbachev who was
requested to play the first move as the guest of honor. Karpov asked him
to change it, and Gorbachev told him to stick with the move. Polgar had
the edge when gorbachev served them water, which distracted her and she
quickly went downhill.
The game proves nothing, and besides, it was a blitz game.
Henri
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Date: 04 Nov 2005 14:01:57
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 13:00:38 -0500, [email protected]
(Henri Arsenault) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>ChessBase News reports that former world champion Anatoly Karpov
>>defeated Grandmaster Zsuzsa Polgar with the move 1. g4.
>>
>Karpov would not have played the move, it was played by Gorbachev who was
>requested to play the first move as the guest of honor. Karpov asked him
>to change it, and Gorbachev told him to stick with the move. Polgar had
>the edge when gorbachev served them water, which distracted her and she
>quickly went downhill.
>
>The game proves nothing, and besides, it was a blitz game.
>
>Henri
Here is the quote:
"Because of this 1.g4 move, Susan achieved a very good
position in the game. President Gorbachev was standing right next to
them watching the entire game. All of a sudden, he opened the two
bottles of water and poured some into the glasses to serve Susan and
Anatoly. Susan was in shock! Here was one of the most important human
beings on this planet in the last century serving her water! She could
not believe it and she basically froze and lost badly after that."
I am sure that Paul Truong wrote this, not Susan. Susan does not make
excuses for losing chess games, especially not for losing a chess game
to former World Champion Karpov.
Paul Truong wants to excuse Susan for losing a chess game to 1. g4.
However, there is another reason she lost. Susan lost, because 1. g4
is the best move!
Paul Truong makes the claim that Susan got the advantage because
Karpov was required by Gorbachov to play 1. g4. I doubt that Susan
really had the advantage that Paul claims she had. This happens to me
all the time. My opponent thinks that he has the advantage against me,
but still I win the game.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 04 Nov 2005 19:22:53
From: Antonio Torrecillas
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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En/na Sam Sloan ha escrit:
> Paul Truong wants to excuse Susan for losing a chess game to 1. g4.
> However, there is another reason she lost. Susan lost, because 1. g4
> is the best move!
Opinions like that force you continue being a very weak player.
Would you like to improve?
... in afirmative case, be more objective!
> Paul Truong makes the claim that Susan got the advantage because
> Karpov was required by Gorbachov to play 1. g4. I doubt that Susan
> really had the advantage that Paul claims she had. This happens to me
> all the time. My opponent thinks that he has the advantage against me,
> but still I win the game.
Karpov opinion about g4 seems clear.
Your opinion seems not being very convincing. You can convince us only
posting the game (or games, ... "Sloan-Polgar babies" included).
> Sam Sloan
AT
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Date: 04 Nov 2005 17:12:59
From:
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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Stop posting things that have nothing to do with computer chess to
rec.games.chess.computers, loser.
And people, PLEASE trim the newsgroups when you reply to the loser!
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Date: 03 Nov 2005 20:00:09
From: Jerzy
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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>
> The game proves nothing, and besides, it was a blitz game.
>
> Henri
On the contrary, it proves that :
1. Gorbi knows chess well.
2. He knows that playing g4 is unusual and funny but
3. it was an exhibition match played for fun.
4. The hypothesis that Sam Sloan told him to do so is not impossible but
very unlikely ;-)
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Date: 03 Nov 2005 08:21:10
From:
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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Sam Sloan wrote:
> ChessBase News reports that former world champion Anatoly Karpov
> defeated Grandmaster Zsuzsa Polgar with the move 1. g4.
>
> http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2713
>
> There were problems with the sensory chessboard at the Karpov vs.
> Polgar match so it is not known whether the moves to the Karpov-Polgar
> six game match were preserved. The match ended in a 3-3 tie. The other
> two games in which Karpov had white were drawn. This proves that
> Karpov did better with 1.g4 than with other moves.
>
> Sam Sloan also once defeated Zsuzsa Polgar and several times defeated
> Judit Polgar and Sophia Polgar in blitz games with the move 1. g4.
>
> This proves once again that the move 1. g4 can be played with success
> even at the World Championship level.
>
> Sam Sloan
Ummm... no it doesn't prove that. It only proves that 1.g4 can be
successful at faster time controls, no more. They played blitz... not
standard time controls.
Also, the article states that Polgar was distracted by Gorbachev
serving Karpov and her water. Due to this, she froze and lost the
game. This indicates that the opening did not necessarily win the
game.
Ron Suarez
Ron Suarez
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Date: 04 Nov 2005 19:59:16
From: The Man Behind The Curtain
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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[email protected] wrote:
> Ummm... no it doesn't prove that. It only proves that 1.g4 can be
> successful at faster time controls, no more. They played blitz... not
> standard time controls.
>
> Also, the article states that Polgar was distracted by Gorbachev
> serving Karpov and her water. Due to this, she froze and lost the
> game. This indicates that the opening did not necessarily win the
> game.
>
> Ron Suarez
I've never competed in a big tournament, and obviously I'm not a
grandmaster, but I don't understand how the simple of act of Gorby
pouring you water can fluster you THAT much that you can lose. I'm not
saying I don't believe the account, or that Susan is making excuses for
her loss, and I understand it was nice of MG to pour water, but geeze, I
mean, it's just pouring water. Was it THAT big a deal? Gorby also
shits with his pants down, pardon my French.
John
--
Von Herzen, moge es wieder zu Herzen gehen. --Beethoven
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Date: 04 Nov 2005 20:23:28
From: Ron
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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In article <[email protected] >,
The Man Behind The Curtain <[email protected] > wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Ummm... no it doesn't prove that. It only proves that 1.g4 can be
> > successful at faster time controls, no more. They played blitz... not
> > standard time controls.
> >
> > Also, the article states that Polgar was distracted by Gorbachev
> > serving Karpov and her water. Due to this, she froze and lost the
> > game. This indicates that the opening did not necessarily win the
> > game.
> >
> > Ron Suarez
>
> I've never competed in a big tournament, and obviously I'm not a
> grandmaster, but I don't understand how the simple of act of Gorby
> pouring you water can fluster you THAT much that you can lose. I'm not
> saying I don't believe the account, or that Susan is making excuses for
> her loss, and I understand it was nice of MG to pour water, but geeze, I
> mean, it's just pouring water. Was it THAT big a deal? Gorby also
> shits with his pants down, pardon my French.
More to the point - Karpov may not be Karpov-of-1979, but he's still
Anatoly Freakin' Karpov. I mean, what, you think he's never battled
back from a worse position before against a player of Susan Polgar's
strength?
You've got to assume that Karpov is capable of outplaying her from any
number of positions - including some where players of international
strength would lose.
-Ron
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Date: 04 Nov 2005 14:42:15
From: Harold Buck
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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In article
<[email protected] >,
Ron <[email protected] > wrote:
> More to the point - Karpov may not be Karpov-of-1979, but he's still
> Anatoly Freakin' Karpov. I mean, what, you think he's never battled
> back from a worse position before against a player of Susan Polgar's
> strength?
>
> You've got to assume that Karpov is capable of outplaying her from any
> number of positions - including some where players of international
> strength would lose.
Is there anyone out there who thinks the results of blitz games between
anyone--former World Champions or not--are of any importance
theoretically? It's like saying you beat the Olympic Champion in the
athon in a five-foot race to the elevator.
--Harold Buck
"I used to rock and roll all night,
and party every day.
Then it was every other day. . . ."
-Homer J. Simpson
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Date: 03 Nov 2005 16:42:44
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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On 3 Nov 2005 08:21:10 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>Sam Sloan wrote:
>> ChessBase News reports that former world champion Anatoly Karpov
>> defeated Grandmaster Zsuzsa Polgar with the move 1. g4.
>>
>> http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2713
>>
>> There were problems with the sensory chessboard at the Karpov vs.
>> Polgar match so it is not known whether the moves to the Karpov-Polgar
>> six game match were preserved. The match ended in a 3-3 tie. The other
>> two games in which Karpov had white were drawn. This proves that
>> Karpov did better with 1.g4 than with other moves.
>>
>> Sam Sloan also once defeated Zsuzsa Polgar and several times defeated
>> Judit Polgar and Sophia Polgar in blitz games with the move 1. g4.
>>
>> This proves once again that the move 1. g4 can be played with success
>> even at the World Championship level.
>>
>> Sam Sloan
>
>Ummm... no it doesn't prove that. It only proves that 1.g4 can be
>successful at faster time controls, no more. They played blitz... not
>standard time controls.
>
>Also, the article states that Polgar was distracted by Gorbachev
>serving Karpov and her water. Due to this, she froze and lost the
>game. This indicates that the opening did not necessarily win the
>game.
>
>Ron Suarez
I agree of course that the opening did not win the game, because of
course it rarely does at the top levels.
However, the claim that Susan Polgar "froze" because of Gorbachov,
sounds more like an excuse than a reason, especially since it was not
Susan but her manager who made the claim.
Susan certainly has more experience playing against 1. g4 than Karpov
has, because I have played it several times against her in blitz games
(winning the first one, after which she took it more seriously)
whereas I do not think anybody has ever played it against Karpov.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 04 Nov 2005 08:08:19
From: J�rgen R.
Subject: Re: Karpov defeats Polgar with 1. g4 !!
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:42:44 GMT, [email protected] (Sam Sloan)
wrote:
>On 3 Nov 2005 08:21:10 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>
>>Sam Sloan wrote:
>>> ChessBase News reports that former world champion Anatoly Karpov
>>> defeated Grandmaster Zsuzsa Polgar with the move 1. g4.
>>>
>>> http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2713
>>>
>>> There were problems with the sensory chessboard at the Karpov vs.
>>> Polgar match so it is not known whether the moves to the Karpov-Polgar
>>> six game match were preserved. The match ended in a 3-3 tie. The other
>>> two games in which Karpov had white were drawn. This proves that
>>> Karpov did better with 1.g4 than with other moves.
>>>
>>> Sam Sloan also once defeated Zsuzsa Polgar and several times defeated
>>> Judit Polgar and Sophia Polgar in blitz games with the move 1. g4.
>>>
>>> This proves once again that the move 1. g4 can be played with success
>>> even at the World Championship level.
>>>
>>> Sam Sloan
>>
>>Ummm... no it doesn't prove that. It only proves that 1.g4 can be
>>successful at faster time controls, no more. They played blitz... not
>>standard time controls.
>>
>>Also, the article states that Polgar was distracted by Gorbachev
>>serving Karpov and her water. Due to this, she froze and lost the
>>game. This indicates that the opening did not necessarily win the
>>game.
>>
>>Ron Suarez
>
>I agree of course that the opening did not win the game, because of
>course it rarely does at the top levels.
>
>However, the claim that Susan Polgar "froze" because of Gorbachov,
>sounds more like an excuse than a reason, especially since it was not
>Susan but her manager who made the claim.
>
>Susan certainly has more experience playing against 1. g4 than Karpov
>has, because I have played it several times against her in blitz games
>(winning the first one, after which she took it more seriously)
>whereas I do not think anybody has ever played it against Karpov.
Bullshit. I play it against Karpov all the time.
>
>Sam Sloan
Horse's arse.
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