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Date: 11 Oct 2006 18:01:24
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: My current training regimen
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I'm compiling a published version of my repertoire, and in the course of
that, cleaning up the electronic version. Both should be ready for relase
to the general public in about a year to 18 months.
While I'm doing this, I'm not studying new openings and instead "studying"
the middlegame and endgame by forcing myself to improve through practice
rather than study; in other words, by not studying openings.
Once my repertoire is set, then I go back to frontloaded study of openings,
build the repertoire, and see how far I can get with it. Early indications
are that my rating goes up much faster when I study openings, but I think
the middle and endgame practice I'm getting now is making me more consistent
and better able to hold an edge.
If I stay healthy another 7-10 years I should make GM. It's definitely a
slow, tedious process.
--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.
A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "loser AFCs pay my rent."
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 14:21:11
From: Inconnux
Subject: Re: To correct the previous LIAR
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> Gee, I thought it was just keeping my training methods secret for the time
> being.
>
Secret????? lol you won't shut up about your training method! All you
have
kept secret is the RESULTS of your idiotic training method.
We want PROOF of your boasts. but all we get is nonsense.
Just some advice... if you want to keep your training methods
a secret, stop posting your methods online.
Its not your work ethic in question. Its your methods.
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 04:08:56
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: To correct the previous LIAR
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> >> Nope. Too easy to cheat at long time controls online.
> >
> > As if online ratings mean ANYTHING at all...
>
> Of course they do. Nakamura's rating of over 3000 at bullet on ICC means a
> bit to him, as does his 2970 in the one-minute pool (next highest is
> 2500-2600).
Oooohhhhh! I didn't know we were talking about *sentimental* value.
Well, then, of course he's proud of his personal accomplishment on the
internet. But, truth be told, it means nothing to anyone else.
> >> > Even better can you give us your handle on ICC and all of us can check
> >> > your rating.
> >>
> >> Who says I play on ICC?
> >
> > Per his usual, Gordo ducks the question. You see, he doesn't want
> > anything that can be proven to be leaked because then it would expose
> > him for the liar that he is in his own words. He prefers plausible
> > deniability: If you don't provide particulars, they can't say you're
> > lying. Of course, the flip side to that is he can't prove any of his
> > numerous claims, either.
>
> Gee, I thought it was just keeping my training methods secret for the time
> being.
Well, if you had any accomplishments to back up your boasts or we
scheduled to play the Commies for some kind of national prize, I could
understand keeping your methods "secret for the time being." You,
however, don't and aren't. So "keeping [your] training methods secret"
just makes you look at best eccentric, at worst like a pompous ass.
Thankfull we all know you so we can rule out the former.
> I've been busting my ass at this game a lot more than Double D ever has or
> ever will, I can assure you.
There aren't enough hours in the day for you to be "busting [your] ass"
studying chess, filing the numerous lawsuits you've PROMISED are in the
works, "finishing" your "book," and posting on Usenet hundreds of times
a day like you do. It's just not possible, Gordy. Nobody can do it.
Least of all YOU.
So it boils down to this: Something you've claimed is going to happen
(e.g. you getting a GM norm, you suing so-and-so for the Reason of the
Week, you writing a book, etc.) isn't going to get done. So I ask you
now: Which ball are you going to drop, Gordo? The lawsuits or the
book or the GM norm? Which plate is going to crash to the floor with
all the dishes you're supposedly spinning?
Here's your chance to reneg scott-free, Gordy. I'll let you have one.
Tell us which of your latest smack talking wasn't true. We won't even
comment on it so long as you admit that you were full of shit on at
least ONE of those items. But if you don't 'fess up that you indeed
WERE just being a shit-talking, know-it-all blowhard in at least ONE of
those instances -- which, by the way, we all know you are in ALL of the
above -- then we will continue to shoot holes in your boasts like fish
in a barrel.
So how 'bout it, Gordy?
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 00:55:07
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> >>>Oh la la, our under 1900 writing his second book about how He became GM
> >>>(He claimed his repertoire is the main task to be GM soon).
> >>
> >> Never said I was a GM.
> >
> > I say you will never be IM or GM.
>
> Perhaps he can back that claim up with some cash, like say his entire net
> worth, if he's wrong.
>
> If it'll *never happen*, then he has nothing to worry about.
I'm game.
But what are YOU putting up, Gordo?
> > I call that logic deduction from past posts
>
> Sounds like faulty logic.
Gordo wouldn't know logic if it came up and punched him in his ovaries.
> >> (...)
> >>>And about your book ... I'm sure is a waste of time as can be reading
> >>>your posts here. How many times we will read about it here in next year?
> >>
> >> How nice of hiim to criticize something that hasn't even been written
> >> yet!
> >>
> >> Perhaps he can release his own book instead of bashing mine.
> >
> > If I were writing a book, I would not anounce it until it was finished,
> > and then I would publish a little chapter to seduce readers.
>
> Armchair keting 101 noted.
And Gordo Ridiculous Claim #489348921023 is noted as well.
> > If you act like that, all we will have a year and a half very calm!
>
> He thinks he's a WE. How pathetic.
I agree. Looks like more than one person agree with him, Gordy, so
'we' is appropriate.
> > But I'm sure you will never post here any part of your book, you know how
> > the bad advice will be rebated.
>
> Wow, more trade libel. You know why people can sue for trade libel? If you
> cost me business, you cost my government tax revenue. They therefore have
> an interest in preventing that stuff.
Check out the classic Gordon Roy Parker chop-logic here, folks.
Apparently he's now claiming that he can sue Antonio for potential
damages to a book that DOESN'T EVEN EXIST. And, in all probability,
never will.
LMFAO!!!
Gordy, all he's saying is that based on the posts you've made here and
elsewhere you're too stupid to write anything worthy of publication,
let alone review. I agree. Wholeheartedly.
> An objective review of a work is one thing, that's opinion. A hatchet-job
> on something one has never read is quite another (one theater critic lost a
> libel suit when it was revealed he didn't even see a play he had made a
> negative review of).
LOL. Gordo tries comparing apples and oranges here. Not even a very
nice spin.
> > Respect to the quality of your new book, I'm sure it would be as good as
> > your posts and advice published here in RGCA.
> > I understand that last sentence can be took as hardly critical.
>
> Maybe Fischer got sick of people trashing him on his way to the top.
Nobody trashed Fischer *on his way* to the top. He had already been on
top and fell off before people started trashing him. In fact, it
wasn't until he opened his big, fat, ignorant mouth and started
spouting off all manner of ridiculous nonsense that people started
trashing him.
And Gordo, *that's* the exact same reason people trash you. You're all
mouth, tough guy. All talk. Perhaps someday it will sink in that
people don't respect braggarts who do nothing to earn the respect they
seem to think they deserve. Shut your pie hole every once in a while
and quit acting like you're the end-all-be-all to everyone on every
subject and maybe you'll get a little respect.
Until then, you're just a sad, pathetic little know-it-all with an
inferiority complex who seems to think people owe him something. Guess
what? They don't. Nobody does. And until you get THAT, you'll never
be anything to anyone, ever.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 22:05:31
From: Inconnux
Subject: Re: To correct the previous LIAR
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>
> Per his usual, Gordo ducks the question. You see, he doesn't want
> anything that can be proven to be leaked because then it would expose
> him for the liar that he is in his own words. He prefers plausible
> deniability: If you don't provide particulars, they can't say you're
> lying. Of course, the flip side to that is he can't prove any of his
> numerous claims, either.
>
It doesn't take much to figure out that Gordo should not be taken
seriously. All you have to do is is read a couple of his non sense
posts
about his idiotic 1/x rule. A rule that has been contradicted be
almost
every person who has ACTUALLY done something in chess. Hmmm should
I listen to 1900 gordo and his inane rantings or the advice of the
former
world champion for 27 years Emanuel Lasker on how to study chess...
hmmm
thats a tough one. Hmmm Listen to gordo's 1/x rule about just memorize
openings or
IM Jeremy Silmans advice about imbalances and strategy.... The list
goes
on and on.
As someone who an admitted newbie at this game (have played about
two years) even I can recognize idiotic advice when I read it. I will
be
truely amazed if Gordo even returns to real chess.
> But Gordo don't care 'bout all 'dat. Honesty and integrity are
> outmoded concepts when you've got frivilous lawsuits to file to try and
> make money. It's all about the Benjamins, baby.
lol how can you take anyone seriously who writes 'seduction' books yet
still lives in his mothers basement. Anyone who has to write a book on
how to seduce women is a pathetic loser in my opinion.
Of course all of his bluster about sueing over defamation of character
etc...
is to cover the fact that he has very low self esteem. People like
Gordo have to be 'opening GM's' and 'Seduction' gurus in their own
minds because of their pathetic real life. Thats why he won't give any
real details ... because these details are all in his mind.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 21:48:36
From: Inconnux
Subject: Re: To correct the previous LIAR
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.
> >
> > perhaps you could give us your ICC standard rating. Im sure you have
> > one.
>
> Nope. Too easy to cheat at long time controls online.
>
The guy with a million excuses... of course you don't have a 'standard'
rating you are too busy playing idiot non thinking chess... but ive got
some news
for you gordo, seeing as you are going for your GM Norms... they don't
give
norms for minute chess... Your opponents will actually get to THINK
before they
move. so your quick traps aren't gonna work so well.
Of course if someone beats you in standard chess they MUST be
cheating...
wouldn't want to burst that bubble of you being a future GM. But just
remember that
you have to play games that are longer than 1 minute
> > Even better can you give us your handle on ICC and all of us can check
> > your rating.
>
> Who says I play on ICC?
I do remember in the recent past that someone posted your nick on ICC
but
I wouldn't doubt that you ran away when people actually figured out who
you
were.
I do believe you were threatening to sue people who were 'slandering'
you during
the 'grudge match' on ICC so you could have had at one time an
account there.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 21:33:45
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: To correct the previous LIAR
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> > Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> >> 1900 is (or was) my rating FLOOR.
> >
> > perhaps you could give us your ICC standard rating. Im sure you have
> > one.
>
> Nope. Too easy to cheat at long time controls online.
As if online ratings mean ANYTHING at all...
> > Even better can you give us your handle on ICC and all of us can check
> > your rating.
>
> Who says I play on ICC?
Per his usual, Gordo ducks the question. You see, he doesn't want
anything that can be proven to be leaked because then it would expose
him for the liar that he is in his own words. He prefers plausible
deniability: If you don't provide particulars, they can't say you're
lying. Of course, the flip side to that is he can't prove any of his
numerous claims, either.
But Gordo don't care 'bout all 'dat. Honesty and integrity are
outmoded concepts when you've got frivilous lawsuits to file to try and
make money. It's all about the Benjamins, baby.
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 05:42:19
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: To correct the previous LIAR
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>> Nope. Too easy to cheat at long time controls online.
>
> As if online ratings mean ANYTHING at all...
Of course they do. Nakamura's rating of over 3000 at bullet on ICC means a
bit to him, as does his 2970 in the one-minute pool (next highest is
2500-2600).
>> > Even better can you give us your handle on ICC and all of us can check
>> > your rating.
>>
>> Who says I play on ICC?
>
> Per his usual, Gordo ducks the question. You see, he doesn't want
> anything that can be proven to be leaked because then it would expose
> him for the liar that he is in his own words. He prefers plausible
> deniability: If you don't provide particulars, they can't say you're
> lying. Of course, the flip side to that is he can't prove any of his
> numerous claims, either.
Gee, I thought it was just keeping my training methods secret for the time
being.
I've been busting my ass at this game a lot more than Double D ever has or
ever will, I can assure you.
--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.
A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "loser AFCs pay my rent."
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 11:36:53
From: Inconnux
Subject: Re: To correct the previous LIAR
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> 1900 is (or was) my rating FLOOR.
perhaps you could give us your ICC standard rating. Im sure you have
one.
Even better can you give us your handle on ICC and all of us can check
your rating.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 14:58:52
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: To correct the previous LIAR
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> Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
>> 1900 is (or was) my rating FLOOR.
>
> perhaps you could give us your ICC standard rating. Im sure you have
> one.
Nope. Too easy to cheat at long time controls online.
> Even better can you give us your handle on ICC and all of us can check
> your rating.
Who says I play on ICC?
--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.
A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "loser AFCs pay my rent."
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 01:30:45
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> >> This also serves the purpose of making my upcoming book on how to play
> >> the opening (which will contain my full repertoire)
> >
> > Oh la la, our under 1900 writing his second book about how He became GM
> > (He claimed his repertoire is the main task to be GM soon).
>
> Never said I was a GM.
Oh, that's right. He never claimed to be a GM. He just claimed to
play like a GM for the first 12 [or so] moves in the opening. His mom
bought him MCO, ya know.
> > Ray, why do not you train chess hardly in the place of writing here
> > disturbing people who is actually interested in learning and enjoying
> > chess?
>
> Who is he to speak for anyone but himself?
He just said what the majority here think, Gordo. Chill-ax.
> If he doesn't like what I write,
> he can ignore it, and if he doesn't like others reading what I write, he can
> go fuck himself.
Nobody here likes what you write, Gordo. And the only reason people
read what you write is to shoot holes in your many boasts with cold,
sobering logic so people reading this forum for the first time don't
get the impression that you're some kind of an authority.
> > And about your book ... I'm sure is a waste of time as can be reading your
> > posts here. How many times we will read about it here in next year?
>
> How nice of hiim to criticize something that hasn't even been written yet!
Well, it's hardly an unjustified attitude considering the author of the
supposed book-to-be in question.
> Perhaps he can release his own book instead of bashing mine.
Perhaps you should write it before getting your panties in a bunch
about criticism of it, tough guy.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 01:23:07
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: To correct the previous LIAR
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
>
> "You can't handle my game!" -- Vince, from "The Color of Money"
Apparently you can't handle the game itself, not having played in over
16 years. It stands to reason that someone who claims his game is
"stronger than ever" to people in the know would at least have some
semblance of evidence to support such a claim. But alas, you don't.
Honestly, do you *really* expect anyone to believe you, Gordo?
And don't give me that weak shit, "I don't CARE if people believe me."
Of course you do. It's quite obvious to anyone with a shred of logic.
If you didn't, you wouldn't brag about your rating here.
So how 'bout it, Gordy? Think anyone really believes your fairy tale
about being such a strong player?
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 22:34:17
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: To correct the previous LIAR
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Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
> On 2006-10-16, Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> > 1900 is (or was) my rating FLOOR.
>
> I'm not familiar with the US rating system. Does that mean that, no
> matter how much you have deteriorated since last playing, your
> rating cannot go lower than 1900?
That's correct, Chris.
No matter how bad he is now, he'll never drop below 1900. Nice of him
though, because when those 1200 and 1300-rated guys beat him OTB -- in
the off-chance he ever has the nerve to show his face at a tournament
again after all the shit he's talked here and elsewhere -- they'll
scalp a ton of rating points off of him.
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 22:31:05
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Gordy's "Rating"
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> 1900 is (or was) my rating FLOOR.
Ooh. I've touched a nerve.
So what you're saying then, Gordo, is that your 1900 rating -- if in
the off-chance it's viewed as even mildly accurate by the most
uninformed chessplayers in the nation, being over 16 years old and
stagnant -- is your FLOOR. Meaning, the USCF has capped you and,
despite your every effort to do so, they will not lower your rating any
more than it is.
Furthermore, your position in previous posts have indicated that you
will also not participate in OTB competition until such time as you are
able to "secure a GM norm." Is that still your position?
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 21:37:05
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> >> >a reality check for him
> >> > would be nice.
> >>
> >> I keep waiting for one but my rating keeps hitting new peaks, like the
> >> one
> >> it hit today.
> >
> > <GASP!>
> >
> > did you crack the 1600 barrier?!?
>
> Try 1980, in a rating pool where many GMs and IMs have lower ratings than
> that.
Really. Name three.
> What's Double D's rating again?
Dunno. I don't think David Duke ever played a rated game of chess, but
I could be wrong.
> (I'm still 1900 USCF officially).
LOL. Is that why you quit playing 16 years ago, Gordo? Because you
topped out with your middle of the road Class A rating and didn't want
to risk "damaging" it for fear it might fall below 1900? It that it?
Or was it just because your mom quit paying your membership dues?
I suspect a bit of both.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 01:05:55
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: To correct the previous LIAR
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1900 is (or was) my rating FLOOR.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 01:16:35
From: Chris F.A. Johnson
Subject: Re: To correct the previous LIAR
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On 2006-10-16, Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> 1900 is (or was) my rating FLOOR.
I'm not familiar with the US rating system. Does that mean that, no
matter how much you have deteriorated since last playing, your
rating cannot go lower than 1900?
--
Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfaj.freeshell.org >
===================================================================
Author:
Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 03:41:47
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: To correct the previous LIAR
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> On 2006-10-16, Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
>> 1900 is (or was) my rating FLOOR.
>
> I'm not familiar with the US rating system. Does that mean that, no
> matter how much you have deteriorated since last playing, your
> rating cannot go lower than 1900?
Correct. My peak rating was 2000 USCF in 1988 or 1989 (I forget which).
Back then, your floor was 100-199 points lower than your peak (a 2099 player
also had a 1900 floor).
Someone had said I "topped out" at 1900 when in fact it was 2000. My game
is stronger than ever and has not deteriorated one iota.
I got my rating back when one actually had to pound the pavement and ride
Amtrak or drive hours to find good competition on a steady basis. Played up
and down the east coast, twelve months a year, for four years, then quit.
We didn't even have strong computers back then (strongest was Deep Thought's
2265).
"You can't handle my game!" -- Vince, from "The Color of Money"
--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.
A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "loser AFCs pay my rent."
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 14:19:40
From: Inconnux
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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> Try 1980, in a rating pool where many GMs and IMs have lower ratings than
> that.
>
>
in real chess or idiotic non thinking chess??? My bets are that you
are
talking about non thinking chess...
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 13:43:39
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> If I stay healthy another 7-10 years I should make GM. It's definitely a
> slow, tedious process.
> Try 1980, in a rating pool where many GMs and IMs have lower ratings than that.
Well, I don't wish anyone ill health (even Nick) and hope you make GM
since that's been your dream. I looked up the top 20 lightning players,
then filtered the by those who played 10+ standard games.
#1: 2454 lightning, 2138 standard
#2: 2336 lightning, 2072 standard
#3: 2320 lightning, 2285 standard
#4: 2257 lightning, 2178 standard
#5: 2256 lightning, 2151 standard
#6: 2229 lightning, 2221 standard
#7: 2226 lightning, 2018 standard
#8: 2224 lightning, 2138 standard
#9: 2217 lightning, 2133 standard
#10: 2213 lightning, 2248 standard
Conclusions:
lightning_ELO = > standard_ELO (90% confidence)
lightning_ELO = standard_ELO + 115 (mean)
lightning_ELO = standard_ELO + 85 (median)
FIDE's slowest time control is G/15, and there's a big gap between 1895
(standard) and 2500 (standard)--the rating required to become a GM.
Even if, like Topalov, you rock in the opening--you have to play 30-40
good middlegame moves. How are you preparing tactically, strategically,
and endgame-wise... or do you feel you've already read enough books...
and practice is all you need?
---
likesforests
Become a Chess Expert - http://likesforests.blogspot.com/
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 21:46:00
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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>> Try 1980, in a rating pool where many GMs and IMs have lower ratings than
>> that.
> FIDE's slowest time control is G/15, and there's a big gap between 1895
> (standard) and 2500 (standard)--the rating required to become a GM.
I train at one-minute chess. I'm likely stronger at the slower time
controls, because I was never as fast as the blitz hustlers when I was
younger, but now I'm getting there. The idea behind training at one-minute
is to flush out my weaknesses as quickly as possible. This way, when I hit
my true peak, I won't have to worry about speeding up my game to meet some
new "quicker" time control, but it'll just be a matter of slowing down my
game to whatever FIDE is using.
Since one's ability to process information quickly is part of their IQ
measurement, I can't see how training at slower time controls would ever be
preferable.
> Even if, like Topalov, you rock in the opening--you have to play 30-40
> good middlegame moves.
Most of my wins come in less than forty moves, and a good number are
miniatures.
>How are you preparing tactically, strategically,
> and endgame-wise... or do you feel you've already read enough books...
> and practice is all you need?
Computers are all one needs once they are out of book.
I am currently "studying" the middlegame and endgame by not studying the
opening and forcing myself to learn other parts of the game if I want to get
ahead. This also serves the purpose of making my upcoming book on how to
play the opening (which will contain my full repertoire) an accurate
"snapshot" of what I play, because otherwise the material from the earlier
chapters would date itself since it's taking 12-18 months to write this
single-volume reference. I also need something to take to tournaments with
me so I can reference it after a game or right before a game.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 09:17:26
From: Antonio Torrecillas
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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En/na Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" ha escrit:
>
> This also serves the purpose of making my upcoming book on how to
> play the opening (which will contain my full repertoire)
>
Oh la la, our under 1900 writing his second book about how He became GM
(He claimed his repertoire is the main task to be GM soon).
Ray, why do not you train chess hardly in the place of writing here
disturbing people who is actually interested in learning and enjoying chess?
And about your book ... I'm sure is a waste of time as can be reading
your posts here. How many times we will read about it here in next year?
AT
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 03:43:04
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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>> This also serves the purpose of making my upcoming book on how to play
>> the opening (which will contain my full repertoire)
>
> Oh la la, our under 1900 writing his second book about how He became GM
> (He claimed his repertoire is the main task to be GM soon).
Never said I was a GM.
> Ray, why do not you train chess hardly in the place of writing here
> disturbing people who is actually interested in learning and enjoying
> chess?
Who is he to speak for anyone but himself? If he doesn't like what I write,
he can ignore it, and if he doesn't like others reading what I write, he can
go fuck himself.
> And about your book ... I'm sure is a waste of time as can be reading your
> posts here. How many times we will read about it here in next year?
How nice of hiim to criticize something that hasn't even been written yet!
Perhaps he can release his own book instead of bashing mine.
--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.
A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "loser AFCs pay my rent."
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 16:28:47
From: Antonio Torrecillas
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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En/na Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" ha escrit:
>>>This also serves the purpose of making my upcoming book on how to play
>>>the opening (which will contain my full repertoire)
>>
>>Oh la la, our under 1900 writing his second book about how He became GM
>>(He claimed his repertoire is the main task to be GM soon).
>
> Never said I was a GM.
I say you will never be IM or GM.
I call that logic deduction from past posts
> (...)
>>And about your book ... I'm sure is a waste of time as can be reading your
>>posts here. How many times we will read about it here in next year?
>
> How nice of hiim to criticize something that hasn't even been written yet!
>
> Perhaps he can release his own book instead of bashing mine.
If I were writing a book, I would not anounce it until it was finished,
and then I would publish a little chapter to seduce readers.
If you act like that, all we will have a year and a half very calm!
But I'm sure you will never post here any part of your book, you know
how the bad advice will be rebated.
Respect to the quality of your new book, I'm sure it would be as good as
your posts and advice published here in RGCA.
I understand that last sentence can be took as hardly critical.
AT
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 03:20:22
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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>>>Oh la la, our under 1900 writing his second book about how He became GM
>>>(He claimed his repertoire is the main task to be GM soon).
>>
>> Never said I was a GM.
>
> I say you will never be IM or GM.
Perhaps he can back that claim up with some cash, like say his entire net
worth, if he's wrong.
If it'll *never happen*, then he has nothing to worry about.
> I call that logic deduction from past posts
Sounds like faulty logic.
>> (...)
>>>And about your book ... I'm sure is a waste of time as can be reading
>>>your posts here. How many times we will read about it here in next year?
>>
>> How nice of hiim to criticize something that hasn't even been written
>> yet!
>>
>> Perhaps he can release his own book instead of bashing mine.
>
> If I were writing a book, I would not anounce it until it was finished,
> and then I would publish a little chapter to seduce readers.
Armchair keting 101 noted.
> If you act like that, all we will have a year and a half very calm!
He thinks he's a WE. How pathetic.
> But I'm sure you will never post here any part of your book, you know how
> the bad advice will be rebated.
Wow, more trade libel. You know why people can sue for trade libel? If you
cost me business, you cost my government tax revenue. They therefore have
an interest in preventing that stuff.
An objective review of a work is one thing, that's opinion. A hatchet-job
on something one has never read is quite another (one theater critic lost a
libel suit when it was revealed he didn't even see a play he had made a
negative review of).
> Respect to the quality of your new book, I'm sure it would be as good as
> your posts and advice published here in RGCA.
> I understand that last sentence can be took as hardly critical.
Maybe Fischer got sick of people trashing him on his way to the top.
--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.
A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "loser AFCs pay my rent."
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 03:59:39
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> >a reality check for him
> > would be nice.
>
> I keep waiting for one but my rating keeps hitting new peaks, like the one
> it hit today.
<GASP! >
Gordy....did you crack the 1600 barrier on ICC?!? Awesome, man! With
more practice, I'll wager you're a 1650-player by this time next year!
Keep up the good work!
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 14:24:09
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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>> >a reality check for him
>> > would be nice.
>>
>> I keep waiting for one but my rating keeps hitting new peaks, like the
>> one
>> it hit today.
>
> <GASP!>
>
> did you crack the 1600 barrier?!?
Try 1980, in a rating pool where many GMs and IMs have lower ratings than
that.
What's Double D's rating again? (I'm still 1900 USCF officially).
--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.
A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "loser AFCs pay my rent."
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 02:36:38
From:
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> I'm compiling a published version of my repertoire, and in the course of
> that, cleaning up the electronic version. Both should be ready for relase
> to the general public in about a year to 18 months.
>
> While I'm doing this, I'm not studying new openings and instead "studying"
> the middlegame and endgame by forcing myself to improve through practice
> rather than study; in other words, by not studying openings.
>
> Once my repertoire is set, then I go back to frontloaded study of openings,
> build the repertoire, and see how far I can get with it. Early indications
> are that my rating goes up much faster when I study openings, but I think
> the middle and endgame practice I'm getting now is making me more consistent
> and better able to hold an edge.
>
> If I stay healthy another 7-10 years I should make GM. It's definitely a
> slow, tedious process.
>
Practice hard. I bet in 20 years, you'll play almost as well as the
average 4-year-old child in Elista, Russia. The World will be watching
your porgress with baited breath.
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 02:29:04
From:
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> I'm compiling a published version of my repertoire, and in the course of
> that, cleaning up the electronic version. Both should be ready for relase
> to the general public in about a year to 18 months.
>
I can't wait that long....
Tell me, wasn't it Dantzig who invented the pivot?
Did you invent the internet too?
>
> While I'm doing this, I'm not studying new openings and instead "studying"
> the middlegame and endgame by forcing myself to improve through practice
> rather than study; in other words, by not studying openings.
>
> Once my repertoire is set, then I go back to frontloaded study of openings,
> build the repertoire, and see how far I can get with it. Early indications
> are that my rating goes up much faster when I study openings, but I think
> the middle and endgame practice I'm getting now is making me more consistent
> and better able to hold an edge.
>
> If I stay healthy another 7-10 years I should make GM. It's definitely a
> slow, tedious process.
>
>
> --
> Money is not "game."
> Looks are not "game."
> Social status or value is not "game."
> Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.
>
> A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
> teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
> get women and laughs that "loser AFCs pay my rent."
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Date: 14 Oct 2006 23:30:49
From: Inconnux
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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>
> OTB is not the only rated chess.
>
so you are talking about non thinking chess... figures
> Have to laugh at the idea that anyone encourages Americans to train full
> time at this game. It's like they're jealous of anyone who makes the effort
> to raise their game to the highest levels, since they're too lazy to even
> attempt it, let alone accomplish it.
>
I have no problem with someone training full time to better themselves.
Im not even remotely 'jealous' I just think that you blowing smoke out
of your
butt. Lazy? hardly, but Im also not so ignorant as to ignore the
advise of actual
champions at the game. Every person who has actually done something at
this game contradicts your moronic 1/x rule. Now if they are all
wrong, then
prove it. Play at the next world open and see just how great your
system of
training is. Until then you are just some loser who lives in his
mothers basement,
who spouts nonsense.
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Date: 14 Oct 2006 18:09:13
From: Inconnux
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> >a reality check for him
> > would be nice.
>
> I keep waiting for one but my rating keeps hitting new peaks, like the one
> it hit today.
>
and when did you return to rated chess? or are you talking about
non thinking chess again?
> Wonder if this guy checked out the game Parr dug up where I lost on time
> after slaughtering an IM right out of the opening in Pirc.
>
um does this mean that you really LOST to an IM? it must because you
have stated several times that time is not a factor when you play
chess...
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 01:02:53
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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>> >a reality check for him
>> > would be nice.
>>
>> I keep waiting for one but my rating keeps hitting new peaks, like the
>> one
>> it hit today.
>>
> and when did you return to rated chess? or are you talking about
> non thinking chess again?
OTB is not the only rated chess.
>> Wonder if this guy checked out the game Parr dug up where I lost on time
>> after slaughtering an IM right out of the opening in Pirc.
>>
> um does this mean that you really LOST to an IM? it must because you
> have stated several times that time is not a factor when you play
> chess...
Evans thought pretty highly of my play there. That was also sixteen years
ago, about three years after my first rated OTB game.
Have to laugh at the idea that anyone encourages Americans to train full
time at this game. It's like they're jealous of anyone who makes the effort
to raise their game to the highest levels, since they're too lazy to even
attempt it, let alone accomplish it.
--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.
A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "loser AFCs pay my rent."
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Date: 14 Oct 2006 10:19:22
From: Inconnux
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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> > So "we" is one person now. Interesting.
>
> 'We' is everyone who reads your posts, Gordo. Didn't you know that?
>
I'll second that making it an official 'we' :)
> > > But does this mean you're returning to OTB? Or are you simply going to
> > > play a few thousand one-minute luck chess games on ICC every week?
> >
of course he wont. Its much easier for him to be a grandmaster in his
mind
than on an actual chessboard.
> > Most pro sports are played at high speed, however, and part of IQ
> > is the speed with which one processes information.
>
> Whatever makes you sleep better.
>
hmm quick practicing hasn't helped my golf game...
:)
> Assume whatever you want. I don't give two shits if you're healthy.
> In fact, why don't you go catch something. It'd be a blessing for us
> all. Even something like carpal tunnel would be nice. It'd keep you
> out of RGC* for a while at least.
where as I don't wish any poor health on gordo, a reality check for him
would be nice.
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Date: 14 Oct 2006 19:32:26
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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>a reality check for him
> would be nice.
I keep waiting for one but my rating keeps hitting new peaks, like the one
it hit today.
Wonder if this guy checked out the game Parr dug up where I lost on time
after slaughtering an IM right out of the opening in Pirc.
--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.
A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "loser AFCs pay my rent."
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 11:41:28
From: Bjoern
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
>>a reality check for him
>>would be nice.
>
>
> I keep waiting for one but my rating keeps hitting new peaks, like the one
> it hit today.
This is called a random walk. If you keep on playing regularly and don't
fall over dead, then you will keep on hitting new rating peaks.
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 14:22:55
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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>>>a reality check for him
>>>would be nice.
>>
>>
>> I keep waiting for one but my rating keeps hitting new peaks, like the
>> one it hit today.
>
> This is called a random walk. If you keep on playing regularly and don't
> fall over dead, then you will keep on hitting new rating peaks.
Like Bisguier does now?
--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.
A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "loser AFCs pay my rent."
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Date: 14 Oct 2006 01:26:52
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> >> I'm compiling a published version of my repertoire, and in the course of
> >> that, cleaning up the electronic version. Both should be ready for
> >> relase
> >> to the general public in about a year to 18 months.
> >
> > And we believe that will happen. Really we do.
> >
> > No, really.
>
> So "we" is one person now. Interesting.
'We' is everyone who reads your posts, Gordo. Didn't you know that?
> >> While I'm doing this, I'm not studying new openings and instead
> >> "studying"
> >> the middlegame and endgame by forcing myself to improve through practice
> >> rather than study; in other words, by not studying openings.
> >
> > In other words, you're studying like every chessplayer that wants to
> > improve his game and not just memorize MCO.
>
> Actually I'm compiling a printed version of my opening repertoire and won't
> be tinkering with it until I'm done. During that time, I practice to
> improve in the endings.
Bully for you.
> > But does this mean you're returning to OTB? Or are you simply going to
> > play a few thousand one-minute luck chess games on ICC every week?
>
> One-minute games might appear like luck to the Double Ds of the world, I
> suppose.
Who's this "Double D" character you so often reference? I hope you're
not calling me names or I'll sue you for defamation of character.
<sniff >
That hurts my feelers.
> Most pro sports are played at high speed, however, and part of IQ
> is the speed with which one processes information.
Whatever makes you sleep better.
> >> If I stay healthy another 7-10 years I should make GM.
> >
> > If my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.
>
> I assume he's not commenting on my future health.
Assume whatever you want. I don't give two shits if you're healthy.
In fact, why don't you go catch something. It'd be a blessing for us
all. Even something like carpal tunnel would be nice. It'd keep you
out of RGC* for a while at least.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 08:03:53
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
<SNIP >
>
> Besides, since I plan to publish and sell my repertoire, that justifies what
> I'm doing for business reasons.
HEAR YE, HEAR YE!
I shall now make a prediction TODAY in the wake of Gordo's latest
outlandish claim before he makes it come to pass. Behold:
****************************
PREDICTION:
Gordon Roy Parker will, upon his "release" or "publication" or mere
whisper on Usenet any details of the aforementioned "repertoire,"
threaten to sue anyone who either:
a) studys openings;
b) reads books; or
c) plays online
He will either threaten to sue them -- and THREATEN is the operative
word -- for copyright infringement or he will belittle those who talk
about their own training regime if it includes any of the above three
strategies, claiming HE thought of that idea first.
Caveat: When he DOESN'T make GM in "7 to 10 years" like he claims he
will <LMAO!! > utilizing his aforementioned "repertoire," he will then
ridicule anyone else who tries ANY of the self-improvement strategies
"he thought of" because "they [don't] work."
**************************
I have seen the future, ladies and gentlemen.
So let it be written -- so let it be done.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 07:54:42
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> I'm compiling a published version of my repertoire, and in the course of
> that, cleaning up the electronic version. Both should be ready for relase
> to the general public in about a year to 18 months.
And we believe that will happen. Really we do.
No, really.
> While I'm doing this, I'm not studying new openings and instead "studying"
> the middlegame and endgame by forcing myself to improve through practice
> rather than study; in other words, by not studying openings.
In other words, you're studying like every chessplayer that wants to
improve his game and not just memorize MCO.
But does this mean you're returning to OTB? Or are you simply going to
play a few thousand one-minute luck chess games on ICC every week?
> If I stay healthy another 7-10 years I should make GM.
If my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.
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Date: 14 Oct 2006 01:29:58
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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>> I'm compiling a published version of my repertoire, and in the course of
>> that, cleaning up the electronic version. Both should be ready for
>> relase
>> to the general public in about a year to 18 months.
>
> And we believe that will happen. Really we do.
>
> No, really.
So "we" is one person now. Interesting.
>> While I'm doing this, I'm not studying new openings and instead
>> "studying"
>> the middlegame and endgame by forcing myself to improve through practice
>> rather than study; in other words, by not studying openings.
>
> In other words, you're studying like every chessplayer that wants to
> improve his game and not just memorize MCO.
Actually I'm compiling a printed version of my opening repertoire and won't
be tinkering with it until I'm done. During that time, I practice to
improve in the endings.
>
> But does this mean you're returning to OTB? Or are you simply going to
> play a few thousand one-minute luck chess games on ICC every week?
One-minute games might appear like luck to the Double Ds of the world, I
suppose. Most pro sports are played at high speed, however, and part of IQ
is the speed with which one processes information.
>> If I stay healthy another 7-10 years I should make GM.
>
> If my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.
I assume he's not commenting on my future health.
--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.
A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "loser AFCs pay my rent."
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 00:08:59
From:
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
>
> If I stay healthy another 7-10 years I should make GM. It's definitely a
> slow, tedious process.
The purpose of playing chess in not becoming a GM. I have few friends
who became IM and GM in their early 20s and at 30 they are chesswise as
good as brain dead.
In every tournament since they dont do anything but draw fast their
games and then go to the hotel room to get drunk and play video or
cards games. They became chesswise a shadow of what they were in their
junior years.
You are missing the point of playing chess Ray. What you say is like
believing that the purpose of having sex is making babies.
Focus on the excitement, risk and struggle over the board, play the
game rather than study and memorize openings, and make sure that you
play in such a way that you will reap the reward of playing.
"Chess, with all its philosophical depth, its aesthetic appeal, is
first of all a game in the best sense of the word; a game in which are
revealed your intellect, character, will. - Boris Spassky"
"By some ardent enthusiasts, chess has been elevated into a science or
an art. It is neither; but its principal characteristic seems to be
what human nature most delights in - a fight. - Emanuel Lasker "
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Date: 19 Oct 2006 14:56:39
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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<[email protected] > wrote:
> You are missing the point of playing chess Ray. What you say is like
> believing that the purpose of having sex is making babies.
In less than a minute. By having one-minute sex, he can make up to
720 babies a day.
Dave.
--
David Richerby Edible Enormous Cheese (TM): it's like
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a brick of cheese but it's huge and
you can eat it!
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 03:57:31
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: My current training regimen
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>> If I stay healthy another 7-10 years I should make GM. It's definitely a
>> slow, tedious process.
>
>
> The purpose of playing chess in not becoming a GM. I have few friends
> who became IM and GM in their early 20s and at 30 they are chesswise as
> good as brain dead.
Wouldn't shock me a bit. Not only that, but with so many advances in
theory, it's tougher to keep up.
> In every tournament since they dont do anything but draw fast their
> games and then go to the hotel room to get drunk and play video or
> cards games. They became chesswise a shadow of what they were in their
> junior years.
> You are missing the point of playing chess Ray. What you say is like
> believing that the purpose of having sex is making babies.
It's *a* purpose.
> Focus on the excitement, risk and struggle over the board, play the
> game rather than study and memorize openings, and make sure that you
> play in such a way that you will reap the reward of playing.
Extensive study ensures maximum enjoyment actually.
Besides, since I plan to publish and sell my repertoire, that justifies what
I'm doing for business reasons.
--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.
A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "loser AFCs pay my rent."
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