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Date: 29 Oct 2005 21:11:28
From: Martijn
Subject: Question about 3 times identical position = draw
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3 times an identical position is a draw, but only if the same player has
to move, right? At least that's what I have learned.
I was playing an online game when the system tells me: "1/2 3 identical
postions", and the game was ended.
*BUT* this 3rd time it was my opponent's turn, instead of mine like in
the previous two same positions. Which was exactly my plan.
FWIW:
This was the final position, I had black and Kf6 was the last move:
White: Ke4, g5, h5
Black: Ke6, d4, e5, h7
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Date: 30 Oct 2005 22:05:21
From: CeeBee
Subject: Re: Question about 3 times identical position = draw
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tijn <[email protected] > wrote in rec.games.chess.analysis:
> 3 times an identical position is a draw, but only if the same player has
> to move, right? At least that's what I have learned.
>
> I was playing an online game when the system tells me: "1/2 3 identical
> postions", and the game was ended.
>
> *BUT* this 3rd time it was my opponent's turn, instead of mine like in
> the previous two same positions. Which was exactly my plan.
http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=EE101
9.2
The game is drawn, upon a correct claim by the player having the move, when
the same position, for at least the third time (not necessarily by a
repetition of moves)
1.
is about to appear, if he first writes his move on his scoresheet and
declares to the arbiter his intention to make this move, or
2.
has just appeared, and the player claiming the draw has the move.
Positions as in (a) and (b) are considered the same, if the same player has
the move, pieces of the same kind and colour occupy the same squares, and
the possible moves of all the pieces of both players are the same.
Positions are not the same if a pawn that could have been captured en
passant can no longer in this manner be captured or if the right to castle
has been changed temporarily or permanently.
--
CeeBee
***Ancient Wisdom in a Crunchy Treat***
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Date: 30 Oct 2005 07:07:11
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: Question about 3 times identical position = draw
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>3 times an identical position is a draw, but only if the same player has
> to move, right? At least that's what I have learned.
Correct, since it's not the same position.
>
> I was playing an online game when the system tells me: "1/2 3 identical
> postions", and the game was ended.
Sounds like a system flaw.
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Date: 31 Oct 2005 06:45:35
From: Terry
Subject: Re: Question about 3 times identical position = draw
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"Ray Gordon" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >3 times an identical position is a draw, but only if the same player has
>> to move, right? At least that's what I have learned.
>
> Correct, since it's not the same position.
>
>>
>> I was playing an online game when the system tells me: "1/2 3 identical
>> postions", and the game was ended.
>
>
> Sounds like a system flaw.
>
>
>
Must be. It is only a draw if one person claims it.
In this case nobody claimed the draw.
Regards
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Date: 02 Nov 2005 14:00:46
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Question about 3 times identical position = draw
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Terry <[email protected] > wrote:
>"Ray Gordon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> 3 times an identical position is a draw, but only if the same player
>>> has to move, right? At least that's what I have learned.
>>
>> Correct, since it's not the same position.
>>
>>> I was playing an online game when the system tells me: "1/2 3 identical
>>> postions", and the game was ended.
>>
>> Sounds like a system flaw.
>
> Must be. It is only a draw if one person claims it. In this case nobody
> claimed the draw.
Perhaps the opponent claimed the draw. (As we all agree, it shouldn't
have been granted in any case.)
Dave.
--
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www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a handy household tool but it's in
realistic colour!
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Date: 03 Nov 2005 07:22:19
From: Terry
Subject: Re: Question about 3 times identical position = draw
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"David Richerby" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:wce*[email protected]...
> Terry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>"Ray Gordon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> 3 times an identical position is a draw, but only if the same player
>>>> has to move, right? At least that's what I have learned.
>>>
>>> Correct, since it's not the same position.
>>>
>>>> I was playing an online game when the system tells me: "1/2 3 identical
>>>> postions", and the game was ended.
>>>
>>> Sounds like a system flaw.
>>
>> Must be. It is only a draw if one person claims it. In this case nobody
>> claimed the draw.
>
> Perhaps the opponent claimed the draw. (As we all agree, it shouldn't
> have been granted in any case.)
>
>
> Dave.
>
On Playchess.com the draw does not have to be claimed for
repetition or the 50 move rule. It is given automastically.
Regards
T
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Date: 30 Oct 2005 22:16:47
From: Martijn
Subject: Re: Question about 3 times identical position = draw
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Ray Gordon wrote:
> Correct, since it's not the same position.
Thanks for the confirmation.
> Sounds like a system flaw.
Yeah, I guess so.
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Date: 29 Oct 2005 21:13:29
From: Martijn
Subject: Re: Question about 3 times identical position = draw
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tijn wrote:
> This was the final position, I had black and Kf6 was the last move:
Oops, I mean Ke6
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