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Date: 08 Mar 2005 09:32:57
From: rbr
Subject: Request for KIA games
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I'm looking for some thematic, non-GM KIA games where black has played an
early ...e6 (either the French or Siclian).
One of the common ideas in the KIA is that White attacks on the kingside,
and often uses his h-pawn to soften black up on that side. However, in
searching through my database, I find very few games where this happens.
(Sort of like the Benoni myth that White always tries to play Nf3-d2-c4).
Anway, if anyone has any examples of a thematic kingside attack in the KIA,
I'd appreciate it if you post the game score. I did find one game
Dvoretsky - Yusopov that is pretty good. But generally I'd prefer to look
at non-GM games, preferably where an Expert or FM beats a lower-rated player
in instructive fashion.
Thanks
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Date: 08 Mar 2005 19:57:44
From: Stefan Renzewitz
Subject: Re: Request for KIA games
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"rbr" <[email protected] > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> I'm looking for some thematic, non-GM KIA games where black has played an
> early ...e6 (either the French or Siclian).
>
> One of the common ideas in the KIA is that White attacks on the kingside,
> and often uses his h-pawn to soften black up on that side. However, in
> searching through my database, I find very few games where this happens.
>
> (Sort of like the Benoni myth that White always tries to play Nf3-d2-c4).
>
> Anway, if anyone has any examples of a thematic kingside attack in the
> KIA, I'd appreciate it if you post the game score. I did find one game
> Dvoretsky - Yusopov that is pretty good. But generally I'd prefer to look
> at non-GM games, preferably where an Expert or FM beats a lower-rated
> player in instructive fashion.
>
> Thanks
Not specific games, but in general I can recommend Emms "attacking with e4"
to find great examples how to attack with the KIA on the king side. The part
about the KIA against the French is said to be really excellent and worth
buying the book alone. Many example games show plenty of ideas how to play
with h4-h5 and Nh2-Ng4. Maybe I will check the book later to give you some
concrete games or at least the player names. You may also want to check the
free repertoire about the KIA which is available at my download page:
http://www.chesspositiontrainer.com/CPT/CPT/download.aspx
It covers a full repertoire for White (playing KIA) against French. Its
based on several sources.
Stefan
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Date: 08 Mar 2005 23:26:44
From: Stefan Renzewitz
Subject: Re: Request for KIA games
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"Stefan Renzewitz" <[email protected] > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[email protected]...
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> "rbr" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:[email protected]...
>> I'm looking for some thematic, non-GM KIA games where black has played an
>> early ...e6 (either the French or Siclian).
>>
>> One of the common ideas in the KIA is that White attacks on the kingside,
>> and often uses his h-pawn to soften black up on that side. However, in
>> searching through my database, I find very few games where this happens.
>>
>> (Sort of like the Benoni myth that White always tries to play Nf3-d2-c4).
>>
>> Anway, if anyone has any examples of a thematic kingside attack in the
>> KIA, I'd appreciate it if you post the game score. I did find one game
>> Dvoretsky - Yusopov that is pretty good. But generally I'd prefer to
>> look at non-GM games, preferably where an Expert or FM beats a
>> lower-rated player in instructive fashion.
>>
>> Thanks
>
> Not specific games, but in general I can recommend Emms "attacking with
> e4" to find great examples how to attack with the KIA on the king side.
> The part about the KIA against the French is said to be really excellent
> and worth buying the book alone. Many example games show plenty of ideas
> how to play with h4-h5 and Nh2-Ng4. Maybe I will check the book later to
> give you some concrete games or at least the player names. You may also
> want to check the free repertoire about the KIA which is available at my
> download page: http://www.chesspositiontrainer.com/CPT/CPT/download.aspx
> It covers a full repertoire for White (playing KIA) against French. Its
> based on several sources.
>
> Stefan
OK, here 2 examples you should be able to find in your database:
Fischer - Miagmiasuren, Sousse Interzonal 1967, 31 move win with a great
finish
Kaidanov-Nijboer, Elista Olympiad 1998, 31 moves win
The variations of the KIA are just against the French alreaedy quite complex
and I really recommend to check the book as it organizes the material in a
very well way and has plenty of practical examples and GM analysis.
Stefan
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Date: 08 Mar 2005 16:49:02
From: rbr
Subject: Re: Request for KIA games
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Thanks for the recommendations.
I was already familiar with the Fischer game, it is a classic and a model
game for this line. I am glad to meet the Kaidanov game.
I have seen the Emms book recommended before. Unfortunately, it is no
longer on the shelves at the bookstores I haunt. I may have to order it
from chesscafe.com.
I have Dunnington's book, as well as Smith and Hall's. The problem, as you
allude to, is the arrangement of material. There are no real rules of thumb
for White as far as when to proceed on the queenside or the kingside, when
to push c3 and d4 or when not to, when to play Qe2 as opposed to Re1.
Yes the first 7 moves are very easy to remember, but after that it is
incredibly fluid -- moreso than even some lines of the Sicilian.
I would like to see a book arranged based on Black's pawn positions (...e6
or ...d6) and his KB position (...Bd6, ...Be7, or ...Bg7) as these seem to
be the major differences.
Best regards
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Date: 09 Mar 2005 00:27:21
From: Stefan Renzewitz
Subject: Re: Request for KIA games
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"rbr" <[email protected] > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Thanks for the recommendations.
>
> I was already familiar with the Fischer game, it is a classic and a model
> game for this line. I am glad to meet the Kaidanov game.
>
> I have seen the Emms book recommended before. Unfortunately, it is no
> longer on the shelves at the bookstores I haunt. I may have to order it
> from chesscafe.com.
>
> I have Dunnington's book, as well as Smith and Hall's. The problem, as
> you allude to, is the arrangement of material. There are no real rules of
> thumb for White as far as when to proceed on the queenside or the
> kingside, when to push c3 and d4 or when not to, when to play Qe2 as
> opposed to Re1.
>
> Yes the first 7 moves are very easy to remember, but after that it is
> incredibly fluid -- moreso than even some lines of the Sicilian.
>
> I would like to see a book arranged based on Black's pawn positions (...e6
> or ...d6) and his KB position (...Bd6, ...Be7, or ...Bg7) as these seem to
> be the major differences.
>
> Best regards
Emms is actually organizing it in a very similar way. OK; he skips ...d6 as
he only shows lines against french and with a possible transposition to the
closed sicilian, but beside that the material is very well organized and you
won't get lost. Actually with a repertoire software like CPT its possible to
study such an opening with so many transpositions quite efficient after you
worked your way through the book.
In his book he looks at variations where Black plays d7-d5 AND c7-c6, then
at games where Black plays d7-d5, but not c7-c5 and finally at games where
Black plays c7-c5, but not d7-d5. For each main topic he creates a quite
good structure to go through "all possible" variations and transpositions.
Stefan
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