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Date: 02 Mar 2005 12:36:57
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Subject: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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Everybody says that a beginner/intermediate player should first study
the endgame, and then the middlegame/opening. But when they say
endgame, do they mean 'how to mate with 2 Bishops' kind of thing, or
systemmatic progression of a game starting from the middlegame and
converting the adv in the endgame (e.g Chernev's book on 'Capablancas
best endgames' ). What is the best way to study these endgames ? I have
Fine's 'Basic Chess Endgames', but reading that is like learning the
English language from a dictionary. Is there any good book/software
contaning ENDGAME puzzles ?
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Date: 07 Mar 2005 11:19:03
From: gromit
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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I'm only an average strength player. With that caveat out of the way....
Depending on your chess strength, I would first look at:
Silman's endgame book
Pandolfini's endgame book (watch for typos)...I believe there is a Lev
Alburt book that would fit this role about as well.
Grandmaster Secrets: Endings by Soltis. This is a very different style
of endgame manual, that concentrates less on specific positions and more
on general strategy and guidelines. I think it's great.
Of the two big endgame manuals, Fine strikes me as more encyclopedic and
Muller as more instructive. If your budget is limited, I like the
latter more.
There's lots of other books that I like (Muller's pawn endgame book,
Emms Survival Guide to Rook Endgames, Capablanca's Best Endgames, etc.)
but if you're beginner/intermediate the first three would be most useful
I think. The Silman one may be "too easy" but there's so much
descriptive language I think it has merit.
I've been slacking on my endgame study lately, but when I was really
into it I would go through those first 3 books and play the positions
out against the computer (sometimes from both sides)...this REALLY helps!
As for what to study:
-the basic Pandolfini-level building blocks of endgames (I still havent'
learned the B+N mate but most of the other content is useful)
-simple pawn endgames (know which positions win and which draw, e.g.
outside passers usually win, rook pawns are easy to draw, key
squares/critical squares).
-the basic rook endgames and rook vs. pawn(s) endgames (Lucena Position,
Philidor Position, R vs. 2 connected pawns, etc etc).
The better you are at evaluating simpler endgames, the better you are
at spotting possible conversions to favorable endgames. I found as I
studied the endgame positions I'd start to think in my games, "Hey, if I
do these exchanges, I have the outside passed pawn and should win" or
"I'm down a pawn, so if I can get an opposite-coloured bishop endgame I
can defend better" or "He's busy defending his weakness on the
queenside...if I can make another weakness on the kingside, he can't
defend both and something has to give".
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Date: 03 Mar 2005 10:33:44
From:
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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is there any chess programme/software on endgame puzzles ?
samik
also, is Muller and Lamphrekht (never mind the smelling) similar to
Reuben Fine ?
Samik
Manuel Wehrmann wrote:
> <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Thanks everybody. Whats the difference between 'Dvoretsky's endgame
> > manual' and ' Endgame Analysis: School of Chess Excellence 1' ??
> > Samik
> >
>
> The "Manual" is a real big 'textbook' -
> with basics and advanced stuff, exercises ...
>
> The "School of Excellence" series are collections
> of examples from Dvoretsky's training stuff.
>
> If You want to LEARN better endgame play
> (from basics to the very difficult stuff)
> there are (in English) only two books I can recommend.
>
> I bought both - and never did regret!
> (The German editions).
>
> 1) Muller & Lamprecht, 'Fundamental Chess Endings'
> Gambit London,
> (look at Randy Bauer's review!)
>
> 2) Dvoretsky's 'Endgame Manual' .
>
> Both are checked by PC and Table bases.
> Buy both if You can!
>
> Manuel Wehrmann
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Date: 04 Mar 2005 18:18:33
From: Mike Ogush
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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On 3 2005 10:33:44 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
> is there any chess programme/software on endgame puzzles ?
> samik
As someone else pointed out Convekta sells a number of different
ending:
Chess Endgame Training by Alexander Alpurt
Comprehensive Chess Endings from Averbakh's books
Theory and Practice of Chess Endgame
Chessbase also has some software:
ABCs of Chess Endgames
Endgame Study Database 2000 Training
Fritz Endgame Trainer: Pawn Endings
Opposite Colored Bishops Endgames
Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual (based on the book with the same name)
If you want basic instruction: I would go for "Chess Enfgame Training"
or "ABCs of Chess Endgames"
> also, is Muller and Lamphrekht (never mind the smelling) similar to
>Reuben Fine ?
> Samik
>
There are three categories of books on the the endgame:
1. Collections of endgame studies
2. Reference books that exhaustively cover a set of endings
3. Instructional books.
Fine's Basic Chess Endings is fairly close to category 2., but does
have some instruction it it. Muller & Lamphrekt is further toward
instruction. [There are practice problems in each section of ending
for the reader to work out.] As a contrast Silman's book "Essential
Endings Chess Endings Explained Move by Move 1" and the Ken Smith
follow on "Essential Endings Chess Endings Explained Move by Move 2"
which are oriented toward the beginner and intermediate player
respectively are both priily instructional.
Mike Ogush
>
>Manuel Wehrmann wrote:
>> <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> > Thanks everybody. Whats the difference between 'Dvoretsky's endgame
>> > manual' and ' Endgame Analysis: School of Chess Excellence 1' ??
>> > Samik
>> >
>>
>> The "Manual" is a real big 'textbook' -
>> with basics and advanced stuff, exercises ...
>>
>> The "School of Excellence" series are collections
>> of examples from Dvoretsky's training stuff.
>>
>> If You want to LEARN better endgame play
>> (from basics to the very difficult stuff)
>> there are (in English) only two books I can recommend.
>>
>> I bought both - and never did regret!
>> (The German editions).
>>
>> 1) Muller & Lamprecht, 'Fundamental Chess Endings'
>> Gambit London,
>> (look at Randy Bauer's review!)
>>
>> 2) Dvoretsky's 'Endgame Manual' .
>>
>> Both are checked by PC and Table bases.
>> Buy both if You can!
>>
>> Manuel Wehrmann
>
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Date: 03 Mar 2005 21:35:28
From: Stefan Renzewitz
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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<[email protected] > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[email protected]...
>
> is there any chess programme/software on endgame puzzles ?
> samik
> also, is Muller and Lamphrekht (never mind the smelling) similar to
> Reuben Fine ?
> Samik
>
Try convekta chess software! They are well known for having very good
training software and there are several software bundle possible (good
prices!):
http://store.convekta.com/shop_model.asp?gid=123&sView=Catalog
Stefan
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Date: 03 Mar 2005 08:44:04
From:
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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Thanks everybody. Whats the difference between 'Dvoretsky's endgame
manual' and ' Endgame Analysis: School of Chess Excellence 1' ??
Samik
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Date: 03 Mar 2005 17:58:42
From: Manuel Wehrmann
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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<[email protected] > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[email protected]...
>
> Thanks everybody. Whats the difference between 'Dvoretsky's endgame
> manual' and ' Endgame Analysis: School of Chess Excellence 1' ??
> Samik
>
The "Manual" is a real big 'textbook' -
with basics and advanced stuff, exercises ...
The "School of Excellence" series are collections
of examples from Dvoretsky's training stuff.
If You want to LEARN better endgame play
(from basics to the very difficult stuff)
there are (in English) only two books I can recommend.
I bought both - and never did regret!
(The German editions).
1) Muller & Lamprecht, 'Fundamental Chess Endings'
Gambit London,
(look at Randy Bauer's review!)
2) Dvoretsky's 'Endgame Manual' .
Both are checked by PC and Table bases.
Buy both if You can!
Manuel Wehrmann
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Date: 03 Mar 2005 08:34:27
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gabriele_M=F6ller?=
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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<[email protected] > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[email protected]...
> Everybody says that a beginner/intermediate player should first study
> the endgame, and then the middlegame/opening. But when they say
> endgame, do they mean 'how to mate with 2 Bishops' kind of thing, or
> systemmatic progression of a game starting from the middlegame and
> converting the adv in the endgame (e.g Chernev's book on 'Capablancas
> best endgames' ). What is the best way to study these endgames ? I have
> Fine's 'Basic Chess Endgames', but reading that is like learning the
> English language from a dictionary. Is there any good book/software
> contaning ENDGAME puzzles ?
There is an endgame book that is outstanding good -
for endgame newbies and for the advanced player.
NM Randy Bauer gives 10 out of 10 points:
Muller & Lamprecht:
Fundamental Chess Endings
Read Bauer's review ...
http://www.jeremysilman.com/book_reviews_rb/rb_fundamental_chess_end.html
Manuel W
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Date: 03 Mar 2005 06:46:26
From: Morphy's ghost
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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In the year of our Lord 2 2005 12:36:57 -0800, [email protected]
wrote:
>Everybody says that a beginner/intermediate player should first study
>the endgame, and then the middlegame/opening.
That's not such very good advice. Yes, you need to study the endgame
as a beginner, but you should not neglect the other parts of the game.
I would suggest that a beginner should really take a close look at, in
order, King and Pawn endings, R v R endings, Bishop v knight, and
Bishop v. Bishop of opposite color. Those four cover nearly all of
the endgames that a beginner is likely to see, and introduce the basic
principals that will be needed to be understood when the beginner is
ready to go to the next level.
> But when they say
>endgame, do they mean 'how to mate with 2 Bishops' kind of thing, or
>systemmatic progression of a game starting from the middlegame and
>converting the adv in the endgame (e.g Chernev's book on 'Capablancas
>best endgames' ). What is the best way to study these endgames ? I have
>Fine's 'Basic Chess Endgames', but reading that is like learning the
>English language from a dictionary. Is there any good book/software
>contaning ENDGAME puzzles ?
>
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Date: 02 Mar 2005 21:14:31
From: gnohmon
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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Fred Wilson is a really strong chessplayer whatever his rating. In the
mid-1960s he was pushing around a cart in the garment district of NY as
his day job, and made defiant reks about it and how it would loead
to his eventual triumph. When Buschke retired, Fred had enough capital
to take over the business.
Yes, by cultivating a good relation with Buschke and by living frugally
while pushing a cart, Fred became the biggest power in the USA in chess
book reselling . I admire him for this. But even more, in my visits to
his shop, which have been all too rare considering that I esteem him so
much, we have played 5-0-physical, and even when I was really an FM,
going up in rating and winning the lifetime title that I no longer
deserve, Fred was *** STRONG *** !!!
Gosh, he didn't have time to run the bizness and play in tournaments,
but if you played him some 5-0 in the 1970s/1980s, he was prolly IM
strength at that speed.
Anybody says a bad word about Fred, I look up on the internet where you
are and I come bash you.
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Date: 03 Mar 2005 11:40:55
From: Dan Kalish
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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"gnohmon" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Fred Wilson is a really strong chessplayer whatever his rating. In the
> mid-1960s he was pushing around a cart in the garment district of NY as
> his day job, and made defiant reks about it and how it would loead
> to his eventual triumph. When Buschke retired, Fred had enough capital
> to take over the business.
>
> Yes, by cultivating a good relation with Buschke and by living frugally
> while pushing a cart, Fred became the biggest power in the USA in chess
> book reselling . I admire him for this. But even more, in my visits to
> his shop, which have been all too rare considering that I esteem him so
> much, we have played 5-0-physical, and even when I was really an FM,
> going up in rating and winning the lifetime title that I no longer
> deserve, Fred was *** STRONG *** !!!
>
> Gosh, he didn't have time to run the bizness and play in tournaments,
> but if you played him some 5-0 in the 1970s/1980s, he was prolly IM
> strength at that speed.
>
> Anybody says a bad word about Fred, I look up on the internet where you
> are and I come bash you.
>
Are these bad words or just descriptions of his eccentricity?
1. He talks too much.
2. He treats his business in such a cavalier manner that his making money on
it is miraculous. While I was in the store for the first time, he said he
was going to be next door giving a lesson; would I mind watching the store?
It was just me and the cat and me he had just met.
:-)
Dan
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Date: 02 Mar 2005 15:26:12
From:
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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[email protected] wrote:
> One more question: how do these books compare with
> Dvoretsky's endgame manual ?
You can find a review of "Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual" at
http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review399.pdf. It is an excellent book,
but keep in mind that it is fairly advanced, aimed at experienced
players.
A more accessible book on the most common kind of endings, rook
endings, is "A Practical Guide to Rook Endgames" by Nikolay Minev,
which I recommend highly.
However, it is important first to master basic checkmates (lone king
vs. Q, R, 2 Bs, and B+N), then study king-and-pawn endings, the
simplest kind, before trying to master piece endings.
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Date: 02 Mar 2005 23:32:39
From: Dan Kalish
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> [email protected] wrote:
> > One more question: how do these books compare with
> > Dvoretsky's endgame manual ?
>
> You can find a review of "Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual" at
> http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review399.pdf. It is an excellent book,
> but keep in mind that it is fairly advanced, aimed at experienced
> players.
> A more accessible book on the most common kind of endings, rook
> endings, is "A Practical Guide to Rook Endgames" by Nikolay Minev,
> which I recommend highly.
> However, it is important first to master basic checkmates (lone king
> vs. Q, R, 2 Bs, and B+N), then study king-and-pawn endings, the
> simplest kind, before trying to master piece endings.
Another book to consider is Pandolfini's Endgame Course. My chess teacher
highly recommended it. Its easy to read. OTOH, Fred Wilson recommended
Dvoretsky's manual. My chess teacher thought its too advanced for me. It's
slow reading. So I'm reading both.
Dan
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Date: 02 Mar 2005 14:20:28
From:
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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Ron wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Everybody says that a beginner/intermediate player should first
study
> > the endgame, and then the middlegame/opening. But when they say
> > endgame, do they mean 'how to mate with 2 Bishops' kind of thing,
or
> > systemmatic progression of a game starting from the middlegame and
> > converting the adv in the endgame (e.g Chernev's book on
'Capablancas
> > best endgames' ). What is the best way to study these endgames ? I
have
> > Fine's 'Basic Chess Endgames', but reading that is like learning
the
> > English language from a dictionary. Is there any good
book/software
> > contaning ENDGAME puzzles ?
>
> Learning stuff like how to mate with two bishops is useful, but it's
not
> what people mean when they say study the endgame.
>
> You need to study how to play chess with limited material on the
board.
> I would start out with Silman's "Essential Chess Endings," (which is
> infinitely more readable than Fine) and has a good mix of the
> theoretical and the practical. Then I'm segue into something like
> Soltis' "Grandmaster Secrets: Endings," which is 90% practical.
>
> I think beginners avoid studying the endgame because they think that
> you're supposed to do things like read Fine. Both both of the above
> books show you a few key theoretical positions and then show you
> Grandmaster games influenced by that theory.
>
> Luckily for all of us, you really don't have to -- not until you get
a
> hell of a lot better than most of us are, anyway.
>
> -Ron
Thanks, Ron. One more question: how do these books compare with
Dvoretsky's endgame manual ? Also, when you say 'they show key
theoretical positions' do you mean a few positions to MEMORISE, like
they show in Lev Alburt's 'pocketbook of chess..300 positions ' (or
something like that)?
Samik
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Date: 02 Mar 2005 15:10:30
From: Ron
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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In article <[email protected] >,
[email protected] wrote:
> Thanks, Ron. One more question: how do these books compare with
> Dvoretsky's endgame manual ? Also, when you say 'they show key
> theoretical positions' do you mean a few positions to MEMORISE, like
> they show in Lev Alburt's 'pocketbook of chess..300 positions ' (or
> something like that)?
Okay, first question first:
I don't have any experience with the Dvoretsky book you mention. A quick
internet search tells me it's not one of his books aimed at candidate
masters, so maybe it'd be appropriate.
But I don't know it, and I can't comment it -- but the reviews I've
found with google make it look like it's a little more advanced than the
stuff I'm recommending. There's probably a lot of overlap in the
material covered, though. (And, FWIW, I like Silman's book because he
has the clearest explanations of basic concepts, like the opposition or
a Lucena, and I like Soltis because it quite simply doesn't read like
any other endgame book you've ever seen.)
As for if they're giving you positions to memorize, well... kinda. I
mean, what's the difference between memorizing something and knowing it?
Have you memorized how to mate a long king with a queen + king, or do
you know it?
It's not really about memorization, it's about understanding. You need
to UNDERSTAND a Lucena position, you can't memorize it, because every
Lucena you see if likely to be a little bit different. But once you
understand it, you'll start finding ways to use "bridge-building" (a
metaphor I've never been crazy about) in all kinds of rook endings that
aren't, strictly-speaking, lucenas.
But yes, you have to understand a Lucena exactly as well as you
understand how to mate a king with a K+Q or K+R. It's intuitive, you
look at the position and you say, "well, if I'm going to win this, it's
got to be using that technique."
But, again, this is a very small part of endgame technique. Endgame
technique is much more about recognizing, in a position you've never
seen before, something like the following: "If I trade knights and
exchange those pawns, the result is something like a Lucena position,
and I know that's won. But if I let him trade knights, my king is drawn
in a position, and then it looks like a philidor, which is probably a
drawn." -- by the time you get to the theoretical position, the game is
already decided (just like it's decided the moment you have K+Q and he
only has K -- provided you know what you're doing.)
Similarly, probably 90% of the Lucena-like positions I've reached have
been resigned when the attacker put his rook on the fourth rank -- the
move that says to an observer, "I know a Lucena."
-Ron
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Date: 03 Mar 2005 00:34:51
From: Stefan Renzewitz
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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"Ron" <[email protected] > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Ron. One more question: how do these books compare with
>> Dvoretsky's endgame manual ? Also, when you say 'they show key
>> theoretical positions' do you mean a few positions to MEMORISE, like
>> they show in Lev Alburt's 'pocketbook of chess..300 positions ' (or
>> something like that)?
>
> Okay, first question first:
>
> I don't have any experience with the Dvoretsky book you mention. A quick
> internet search tells me it's not one of his books aimed at candidate
> masters, so maybe it'd be appropriate.
>
> But I don't know it, and I can't comment it -- but the reviews I've
> found with google make it look like it's a little more advanced than the
> stuff I'm recommending. There's probably a lot of overlap in the
> material covered, though. (And, FWIW, I like Silman's book because he
> has the clearest explanations of basic concepts, like the opposition or
> a Lucena, and I like Soltis because it quite simply doesn't read like
> any other endgame book you've ever seen.)
While I love Dvoretsky's endgame manual it certainly is not the one to
choose if you have absolutely no or only little idea about endings. He
doesn't show the basic mates. Also he is presenting quite a lot of stuff in
a very sumized / compact way. However, this he is doing IMO excellent.
You can spent quite a lot of time with almost any page if you want to grasp
it fully. He is using an interesting approach: in smaller letters he adds
notes and excercises for players who are very strong in endings already. So
you can study the book first only reading the parts with big letters and a
few years later you can come back to check the expert stuff. In a way you
get a book aimed for 2 different target groups in one or 2 books in one
(intermediate and expert).
Conclusion: I would first go for the other titles Ron suggested before you
start reading the engdame manual, but keep it on your list for later!
Stefan
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Date: 02 Mar 2005 13:09:37
From: Ron
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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In article <[email protected] >,
[email protected] wrote:
> Everybody says that a beginner/intermediate player should first study
> the endgame, and then the middlegame/opening. But when they say
> endgame, do they mean 'how to mate with 2 Bishops' kind of thing, or
> systemmatic progression of a game starting from the middlegame and
> converting the adv in the endgame (e.g Chernev's book on 'Capablancas
> best endgames' ). What is the best way to study these endgames ? I have
> Fine's 'Basic Chess Endgames', but reading that is like learning the
> English language from a dictionary. Is there any good book/software
> contaning ENDGAME puzzles ?
Learning stuff like how to mate with two bishops is useful, but it's not
what people mean when they say study the endgame.
You need to study how to play chess with limited material on the board.
I would start out with Silman's "Essential Chess Endings," (which is
infinitely more readable than Fine) and has a good mix of the
theoretical and the practical. Then I'm segue into something like
Soltis' "Grandmaster Secrets: Endings," which is 90% practical.
I think beginners avoid studying the endgame because they think that
you're supposed to do things like read Fine. Both both of the above
books show you a few key theoretical positions and then show you
Grandmaster games influenced by that theory.
Luckily for all of us, you really don't have to -- not until you get a
hell of a lot better than most of us are, anyway.
-Ron
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Date: 31 Mar 2005 13:11:18
From: Gilles.Charleux
Subject: Re: Studying Endgame and endgame puzzles
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Three good books for endames studies :
1/ Karpov's endgames arsenal (with Evgeni Gik).
Elementary. 235 studies + 20 studies-like endgames commented by K.
R and D publishing
2/ Polgar L. "Chess Endgames" Ed Konnemann
3/ Kasparyan G. "Domination in 2,545 endgame studies"
Raduga publishers Moscow
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"Ron" <[email protected] > a �crit dans le message news:
[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Everybody says that a beginner/intermediate player should first study
> > the endgame, and then the middlegame/opening. But when they say
> > endgame, do they mean 'how to mate with 2 Bishops' kind of thing, or
> > systemmatic progression of a game starting from the middlegame and
> > converting the adv in the endgame (e.g Chernev's book on 'Capablancas
> > best endgames' ). What is the best way to study these endgames ? I have
> > Fine's 'Basic Chess Endgames', but reading that is like learning the
> > English language from a dictionary. Is there any good book/software
> > contaning ENDGAME puzzles ?
>
> Learning stuff like how to mate with two bishops is useful, but it's not
> what people mean when they say study the endgame.
>
> You need to study how to play chess with limited material on the board.
> I would start out with Silman's "Essential Chess Endings," (which is
> infinitely more readable than Fine) and has a good mix of the
> theoretical and the practical. Then I'm segue into something like
> Soltis' "Grandmaster Secrets: Endings," which is 90% practical.
>
> I think beginners avoid studying the endgame because they think that
> you're supposed to do things like read Fine. Both both of the above
> books show you a few key theoretical positions and then show you
> Grandmaster games influenced by that theory.
>
> Luckily for all of us, you really don't have to -- not until you get a
> hell of a lot better than most of us are, anyway.
>
> -Ron
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