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Date: 26 May 2007 02:01:16
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Subject: Chess on Mac OS X
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Hello!
I'm planning to buy a MacBook (Core 2Duo 2.16 GHz, 1GB RAM, 120 GB
HD), so I'm searching a good chess engine, GUI and Database. Can you
help me?
Thanks
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Date: 31 Jul 2007 07:18:13
From: Antonio_Espinosa
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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On Jul 22, 3:43 pm, Macchess <[email protected] > wrote:
> [email protected] a =E9crit :
>
> > A very useful website!
> > I've seen that Scid is also avariable for Mac: a good news.
> > Regards
>
> Well, an old version of Scid is available now. We are about to release
> the latest incarnation of Scid pretty soon.
>
> Keep reading the newsgroup.
>
> http://macchess.internetcontact.be
Ok, thanks for this news!
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Date: 03 Jun 2007 13:44:05
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Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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On 3 Giu, 14:37, Macchess <[email protected] > wrote:
> [email protected] a =E9crit :
>
> > so I'm searching a good chess engine, GUI and Database. Can you
>
> http://macchess.internetcontact.be
Thanks.
A very useful website!
I've seen that Scid is also avariable for Mac: a good news.
Regards
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 13:43:33
From: Macchess
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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[email protected] a �crit :
> A very useful website!
> I've seen that Scid is also avariable for Mac: a good news.
> Regards
Well, an old version of Scid is available now. We are about to release
the latest incarnation of Scid pretty soon.
Keep reading the newsgroup.
http://macchess.internetcontact.be
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Date: 03 Jun 2007 12:37:58
From: Macchess
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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[email protected] a �crit :
> so I'm searching a good chess engine, GUI and Database. Can you
http://macchess.internetcontact.be
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Date: 29 May 2007 07:51:02
From:
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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David Richerby ha scritto:
> Valente <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I tought Chessbase was more expensive than 20 euro.
>
> Chessbase for Windows is around Eur150. I can't imagine a Mac version
> being any cheaper. If anything, it would be more expensive, to offset
> the additional development costs versus the significantly smaller
> ket.
>
>
> Dave.
>
I've just received an email from ChessBase:
They say that old version was delivered on floppy disks only, moreover
they fear that it would no longer run on OS X.
Is there someone still using ChessBase Mac 1.1???? It's important for
me to know if this software can be used on OS X
Regards
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Date: 28 May 2007 08:30:58
From:
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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On 28 Mag, 14:54, Valente <[email protected] > wrote:
> I tought Chessbase was more expensive than 20 euro. Exachess is also less
> expensive than I said, page says 125 australian dollars and that is around
> 76 euros.
>
I've sent a mail to Chessbase about ChessBase mac 1.1 (asking prize
and if software is compatible with Mac OS X) I'm waiting for an
answer...
> Exachess can't import chessbase format, because that is some kind of
> chessbase propriety, but it can import other formats, like PGN. You only
> have to convert your bases to a format it can import.
>
This is a positive news: I can run on my Mac the best chess database!
However I have to try both Exa and Sigma before taking any decision,
thought Exa seems more professional than Sigma (it's more
expensive....)
> I don't have Shredder. Maybe you want to try it first in the demo version;
> or Sigma Chess with a freeware UCI engine, some are Grand Master level, like
> Toga, Fruit 2.1 or Glaurung.
>
Good idea, but it's hardly probable that Shredder GUI has database
features
I have to thank you for having lost some time with my questions!
Regards
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Date: 28 May 2007 00:42:39
From:
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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On 28 Mag, 02:36, Valente <[email protected] > wrote:
> ExaChess is specialized in chess database. Its by far the best chess
> database for Mac. Sigma Chess also have database feature, but not the most
> advanced ones, like ExaChess have: move tree being the most important. Ve=
ry
> old Chessbase Mac 1.1 is dated some 1993 or 1994 and don't work on modern
> Macs.
>
A tragic news! For me, a ChessBase program would be the best (because
It is cheaper than ExaChess :), I think it costs 20=E2=82=AC)
> Both programs have free (light) versions, you may test both. Start with
> Sigma Chess, you will be surprised by its features and nice interface. The
> Sigma Chess Pro (payed) version is cheap (some 20 euros), ExaChess is more
> expensive, some 120 euros, or so.
>
It seems that ExaChess is a professional software for databases and
trees, while Sigma is mostly designed for running UCI engines.
> I have Hiarcs 11.1 Mac single processor
> <http://www.hiarcs.com/mac_chess_hiarcs.htm>. The multiple processor is m=
ore
> expensive but stronger. My Hiarcs 11.1 SP its the strongest engine I have,
> according to engine vs. engine matches played with Sigma Chess interface.=
It
> is very very strong, yes. I saw it beating all of the others except
> Shredder, because this one is commercial and I don't have it.
>
Deep Shredder 9 could be an interesting and pratical solution: both
GUI and Engine in one pack!
However, I have the latest question: It's possible, having CB Mega
Database 2007, to import the whole database on Exa or Sigma?
Thanks
P=2ES. It's amazing that on peer-to-peer servers there isn't anything on
Chess for Mac!
Antonio Espinosa
[email protected]
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Date: 28 May 2007 13:54:00
From: Valente
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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I tought Chessbase was more expensive than 20 euro. Exachess is also less
expensive than I said, page says 125 australian dollars and that is around
76 euros.
Exachess can't import chessbase format, because that is some kind of
chessbase propriety, but it can import other formats, like PGN. You only
have to convert your bases to a format it can import.
I don't have Shredder. Maybe you want to try it first in the demo version;
or Sigma Chess with a freeware UCI engine, some are Grand Master level, like
Toga, Fruit 2.1 or Glaurung.
in article [email protected],
[email protected] at [email protected] wrote on 07/05/28
8:42:
> On 28 Mag, 02:36, Valente <[email protected]> wrote:
>> ExaChess is specialized in chess database. Its by far the best chess
>> database for Mac. Sigma Chess also have database feature, but not the most
>> advanced ones, like ExaChess have: move tree being the most important. Very
>> old Chessbase Mac 1.1 is dated some 1993 or 1994 and don't work on modern
>> Macs.
>>
> A tragic news! For me, a ChessBase program would be the best (because
> It is cheaper than ExaChess :), I think it costs 20€)
>
>> Both programs have free (light) versions, you may test both. Start with
>> Sigma Chess, you will be surprised by its features and nice interface. The
>> Sigma Chess Pro (payed) version is cheap (some 20 euros), ExaChess is more
>> expensive, some 120 euros, or so.
>>
> It seems that ExaChess is a professional software for databases and
> trees, while Sigma is mostly designed for running UCI engines.
>
>> I have Hiarcs 11.1 Mac single processor
>> <http://www.hiarcs.com/mac_chess_hiarcs.htm>. The multiple processor is more
>> expensive but stronger. My Hiarcs 11.1 SP its the strongest engine I have,
>> according to engine vs. engine matches played with Sigma Chess interface. It
>> is very very strong, yes. I saw it beating all of the others except
>> Shredder, because this one is commercial and I don't have it.
>>
> Deep Shredder 9 could be an interesting and pratical solution: both
> GUI and Engine in one pack!
>
> However, I have the latest question: It's possible, having CB Mega
> Database 2007, to import the whole database on Exa or Sigma?
> Thanks
>
> P.S. It's amazing that on peer-to-peer servers there isn't anything on
> Chess for Mac!
>
> Antonio Espinosa
> [email protected]
>
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Date: 29 May 2007 12:28:25
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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Valente <[email protected] > wrote:
> I tought Chessbase was more expensive than 20 euro.
Chessbase for Windows is around Eur150. I can't imagine a Mac version
being any cheaper. If anything, it would be more expensive, to offset
the additional development costs versus the significantly smaller
ket.
Dave.
--
David Richerby Confusing Apple (TM): it's like a
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ tasty fruit but you can't understand
it!
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Date: 27 May 2007 15:15:38
From:
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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On 27 Mag, 20:38, Valente <[email protected] > wrote:
> You probably need nothing more than Sigma Chesshttp://www.sigmachess.com/.
> It have database features and UCI engine interface and much more. If you are
> really serious about databases you still have ExaChesshttp://www.exachess.com/.
>
> For other options see my web page:
>
> http://ballz.ababa.net/lidador/tinussoft.html
>
> Report here other doubts you may have.
>
I'm really happy that I've found a Mac Expert!
Infact, on intel processor, I can run Windows XP, simply solving chess
"question", but losing Mac extra-power and extra quality.....So I
prefer to choose software on Mac.
I have 2 questions:
1) Can you explain me the difference between Sigma and Exa? (I would
prefer a software like chessbase, but I've heard that the only
chessbase software for Mac is difficult to find, because it is out of
business)
2) HIARCS 11 is really the strongest engine for Mac? ( I've heard that
HIARCS Mac is even stronger than HIARCS PC!)
Thanks for your precious support!
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Date: 28 May 2007 01:36:50
From: Valente
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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ExaChess is specialized in chess database. Its by far the best chess
database for Mac. Sigma Chess also have database feature, but not the most
advanced ones, like ExaChess have: move tree being the most important. Very
old Chessbase Mac 1.1 is dated some 1993 or 1994 and don't work on modern
Macs.
Both programs have free (light) versions, you may test both. Start with
Sigma Chess, you will be surprised by its features and nice interface. The
Sigma Chess Pro (payed) version is cheap (some 20 euros), ExaChess is more
expensive, some 120 euros, or so.
I have Hiarcs 11.1 Mac single processor
<http://www.hiarcs.com/mac_chess_hiarcs.htm >. The multiple processor is more
expensive but stronger. My Hiarcs 11.1 SP its the strongest engine I have,
according to engine vs. engine matches played with Sigma Chess interface. It
is very very strong, yes. I saw it beating all of the others except
Shredder, because this one is commercial and I don't have it.
The Swedish Association SSDF that rates chess engines, puts Hiarcs 11.1 as
world second, with rating 2871, being Rybka the first in its list dated
2007-04-21
<http://web.telia.com/~u85924109/ssdf/list.htm >
Hope it helps.
in article [email protected],
[email protected] at [email protected] wrote on 07/05/27
23:15:
> On 27 Mag, 20:38, Valente <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You probably need nothing more than Sigma Chesshttp://www.sigmachess.com/.
>> It have database features and UCI engine interface and much more. If you are
>> really serious about databases you still have
>> ExaChesshttp://www.exachess.com/.
>>
>> For other options see my web page:
>>
>> http://ballz.ababa.net/lidador/tinussoft.html
>>
>> Report here other doubts you may have.
>>
> I'm really happy that I've found a Mac Expert!
> Infact, on intel processor, I can run Windows XP, simply solving chess
> "question", but losing Mac extra-power and extra quality.....So I
> prefer to choose software on Mac.
> I have 2 questions:
> 1) Can you explain me the difference between Sigma and Exa? (I would
> prefer a software like chessbase, but I've heard that the only
> chessbase software for Mac is difficult to find, because it is out of
> business)
> 2) HIARCS 11 is really the strongest engine for Mac? ( I've heard that
> HIARCS Mac is even stronger than HIARCS PC!)
> Thanks for your precious support!
>
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Date: 27 May 2007 15:43:16
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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Hiarcs , if you get that let me know , you should play my friends Fritz
9 , that would be a good match up..
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Date: 27 May 2007 19:38:53
From: Valente
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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You probably need nothing more than Sigma Chess http://www.sigmachess.com/.
It have database features and UCI engine interface and much more. If you are
really serious about databases you still have ExaChess
http://www.exachess.com/.
For other options see my web page:
http://ballz.ababa.net/lidador/tinussoft.html
You want 1 Giga Ram, or a bit more, if you intend to have lots of things
open, 2 Giga is too much for 99% of users.
Report here other doubts you may have.
in article [email protected],
[email protected] at [email protected] wrote on 07/05/26
10:01:
> Hello!
> I'm planning to buy a MacBook (Core 2Duo 2.16 GHz, 1GB RAM, 120 GB
> HD), so I'm searching a good chess engine, GUI and Database. Can you
> help me?
> Thanks
>
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Date: 27 May 2007 00:32:47
From:
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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On 27 Mag, 02:51, JohnnyT <[email protected] > wrote:
> Inconnux wrote:
> > <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Hello!
> >> I'm planning to buy a MacBook (Core 2Duo 2.16 GHz, 1GB RAM, 120 GB
> >> HD), so I'm searching a good chess engine, GUI and Database. Can you
> >> help me?
> >> Thanks
> Sigmachess + hiarcs, and shredder are available for the Mac. Both very
> good.
>
> However, I run Fritz with Rybka using parallels on my mac. Works like a
> champ.
>
> BTW. Upgrade to 2GB of ram. Seriously.
Thanks for the answer. But I've heard that parallels are a bit slow.
However, Mac OS X Tiger really requires 2 GB of RAM for high
performances?!
I know that Vista requires a lot of RAM, but Mac....
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Date: 27 May 2007 10:30:59
From: JohnnyT
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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[email protected] wrote:
> On 27 Mag, 02:51, JohnnyT <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Inconnux wrote:
>>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Hello!
>>>> I'm planning to buy a MacBook (Core 2Duo 2.16 GHz, 1GB RAM, 120 GB
>>>> HD), so I'm searching a good chess engine, GUI and Database. Can you
>>>> help me?
>>>> Thanks
>
>> Sigmachess + hiarcs, and shredder are available for the Mac. Both very
>> good.
>>
>> However, I run Fritz with Rybka using parallels on my mac. Works like a
>> champ.
>>
>> BTW. Upgrade to 2GB of ram. Seriously.
>
> Thanks for the answer. But I've heard that parallels are a bit slow.
> However, Mac OS X Tiger really requires 2 GB of RAM for high
> performances?!
> I know that Vista requires a lot of RAM, but Mac....
>
Parallels, is not at all noticeably slow. It really does work very,
very well.
And yes, 2 gigs matters, especially if you surf the web for extended
periods of time, run windows simultaneously, do any sort of creative
work across multiple apps.
It is a really small number number of people that would not benefit from
the improvements of 2 gigs. (But the number goes down sharply from
that. Most machines don't need 4 gigs).
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Date: 26 May 2007 20:11:51
From: Inconnux
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello!
> I'm planning to buy a MacBook (Core 2Duo 2.16 GHz, 1GB RAM, 120 GB
> HD), so I'm searching a good chess engine, GUI and Database. Can you
> help me?
> Thanks
>
good luck, there if very few chess programs for macs.
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Date: 26 May 2007 17:51:12
From: JohnnyT
Subject: Re: Chess on Mac OS X
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Inconnux wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hello!
>> I'm planning to buy a MacBook (Core 2Duo 2.16 GHz, 1GB RAM, 120 GB
>> HD), so I'm searching a good chess engine, GUI and Database. Can you
>> help me?
>> Thanks
>>
> good luck, there if very few chess programs for macs.
>
>
Sigmachess + hiarcs, and shredder are available for the Mac. Both very
good.
However, I run Fritz with Rybka using parallels on my mac. Works like a
champ.
BTW. Upgrade to 2GB of ram. Seriously.
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