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Date: 13 Jul 2008 03:45:34
From: samsloan
Subject: Looking Back: Truong and Polgar concealed their marriage to each
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During their campaign to be elected to the USCF Executive Board,
Polgar and Truong concealed the fact that they were married to each
other.
Here is one example from the USCF Forums in January 2007:
http://main.uschess.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=27774#27774
[quote="chrisfalter"]My, how easily threads can get side-tracked!
Truong's views on corporate governance should be known and discussed -
but please, not on this thread! If you want Paul to give those views,
please start a new thread. Also, the question about whether Paul and
Susan are married is not only off-topic for this thread, it is
entirely out-of-bounds for any thread. They have stated that they are
excellent friends and collaborate closely. A marriage is a legally
recognized relationship that they clearly do not have. And anyone who
disagrees with my Paul/Susan view: please take it to another thread!
Let's (pretty please with sugar on top) not hijack this thread for
other purposes, and let Paul give us some details on his business
career. And after he responds, we can discuss his business bio.
Thanks to all readers,
Chris Falter [/quote]
This thread is very interesting in view of what has happened in the
year and a half since then.
Here, Chris Falter, who was at that time one of their strongest
supporters, writes: "marriage is a legally recognized relationship
that they clearly do not have". Yet, we now know that they really were
married. This was revealed by a newspaper reporter in Lubbock, Texas
several months later.
Truong, posting immediately below this, said nothing to contradict
this. Other times during the election campaign, Truong complained to
the moderators and got all questions asking whether he was married to
Polgar or not deleted from the forums.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 13 Jul 2008 08:32:49
From: SBD
Subject: Re: Looking Back: Truong and Polgar concealed their marriage to each
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On Jul 13, 9:48 am, [email protected] wrote:
> On Jul 13, 6:45 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > During their campaign to be elected to the USCF Executive Board,
> > Polgar and Truong concealed the fact that they were married to each
> > other.
>
> > Here is one example from the USCF Forums in January 2007:
>
> >http://main.uschess.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=27774#27774
>
> > [quote="chrisfalter"]My, how easily threads can get side-tracked!
> > Truong's views on corporate governance should be known and discussed -
> > but please, not on this thread! If you want Paul to give those views,
> > please start a new thread. Also, the question about whether Paul and
> > Susan are married is not only off-topic for this thread, it is
> > entirely out-of-bounds for any thread. They have stated that they are
> > excellent friends and collaborate closely. A marriage is a legally
> > recognized relationship that they clearly do not have. And anyone who
> > disagrees with my Paul/Susan view: please take it to another thread!
> > Let's (pretty please with sugar on top) not hijack this thread for
> > other purposes, and let Paul give us some details on his business
> > career. And after he responds, we can discuss his business bio.
>
> > Thanks to all readers,
>
> > Chris Falter [/quote]
>
> > This thread is very interesting in view of what has happened in the
> > year and a half since then.
>
> > Here, Chris Falter, who was at that time one of their strongestsupporters, writes: "marriage is a legally recognized relationship
>
> > that they clearly do not have". Yet, we now know that they really were
> > married. This was revealed by a newspaper reporter in Lubbock, Texas
> > several months later.
>
> > Truong, posting immediately below this, said nothing to contradict
> > this. Other times during the election campaign, Truong complained to
> > the moderators and got all questions asking whether he was married to
> > Polgar or not deleted from the forums.
>
> > Sam Sloan
>
> Heck, it's even worse than you think, Sam. I heard they even
> concealed their marriage *_from_* each other!
Bruceski.
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Date: 13 Jul 2008 07:48:31
From:
Subject: Re: Looking Back: Truong and Polgar concealed their marriage to each
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On Jul 13, 6:45=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> During their campaign to be elected to the USCF Executive Board,
> Polgar and Truong concealed the fact that they were married to each
> other.
>
> Here is one example from the USCF Forums in January 2007:
>
> http://main.uschess.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3D27774#27774
>
> [quote=3D"chrisfalter"]My, how easily threads can get side-tracked!
> Truong's views on corporate governance should be known and discussed -
> but please, not on this thread! =A0If you want Paul to give those views,
> please start a new thread. =A0Also, the question about whether Paul and
> Susan are married is not only off-topic for this thread, it is
> entirely out-of-bounds for any thread. =A0They have stated that they are
> excellent friends and collaborate closely. =A0 A marriage is a legally
> recognized relationship that they clearly do not have. =A0And anyone who
> disagrees with my Paul/Susan view: please take it to another thread!
> Let's (pretty please with sugar on top) not hijack this thread for
> other purposes, and let Paul give us some details on his business
> career. =A0And after he responds, we can discuss his business bio.
>
> Thanks to all readers,
>
> Chris Falter [/quote]
>
> This thread is very interesting in view of what has happened in the
> year and a half since then.
>
> Here, Chris Falter, who was at that time one of their strongestsupporters=
, writes: =A0"marriage is a legally recognized relationship
>
> that they clearly do not have". Yet, we now know that they really were
> married. This was revealed by a newspaper reporter in Lubbock, Texas
> several months later.
>
> Truong, posting immediately below this, said nothing to contradict
> this. Other times during the election campaign, Truong complained to
> the moderators and got all questions asking whether he was married to
> Polgar or not deleted from the forums.
>
> Sam Sloan
Heck, it's even worse than you think, Sam. I heard they even
concealed their marriage *_from_* each other!
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Date: 13 Jul 2008 06:55:22
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Looking Back: Truong and Polgar concealed their marriage to each
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On Jul 13, 7:42 am, [email protected] wrote:
> samsloan wrote:
> > [quote="lblair"][quote="samsloan"]... Certain questions could not be
> > asked of certain candidates, such as whether they were married to each
> > other or not. ...[/quote]
> > A note that any member can look up:[quote="samsloan"]samsloan 11115292
> > Post:27774
> > Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:27 pm
> > Thread: A Request to Paul Truong for Further Documentation
> > ...
> > ... Why does he refuse to answer simple questions such as, is he
> > married to Susan Polgar or not?
> > ...[/quote]http://main.uschess.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=27774#27774[/quote]
>
> > Thank you Louis Blair for pointing out this very interesting thread,
> > especially in view of what has happened since then.
>
> > Unfortunately the records are sealed but those who remember will know
> > that starting in December 2006 they were asked many times on the USCF
> > Issues Forum whether they were married to each other or not.
>
> > Each time, they complained to the forum moderators and got the
> > question pulled so that we can no longer see the questions and their
> > non-answers.
>
> > This is a good example of the Moderator Bias that Steve Owens now
> > claims did not exist.
>
> > Sam Sloan
>
> This is insane. You claim that the question could not be asked on the
> USCF Forum, while quoting a post (still visible) in which you asked
> the question. You just proved yourself a liar. Did I say this was
> insane? No, anyone who takes you seriously is insane.
Not true. There were more than a dozen times on the USCF Issues Forum
when Paul Truong or Susan Polgar were directly asked the question "Are
you married to each other?" These questions started being asked in mid-
December 2006 when rumors started circulating that they were married.
In each case, the censors snipped the question so you cannot read them
now.
In this one case, pointed out by Louis Blair, I did not ask the
question directly. Instead, I wrote, "Why does he refuse to answer
simple questions such as, is he married to Susan Polgar or not?" Paul
Truong, in spite to answering seven more times in that thread, signing
under the User ID "ChessPromotion", each time ignored the question
about his marriage.
Unfortunately, non-USCF members and those who are not registered for
access to the USCF Issues Forum cannot see the link at
http://main.uschess.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=27774#27774
which is under the subject heading, "A Request to Paul Truong for
Further Documentation".
Sam Sloan
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Date: 13 Jul 2008 05:42:56
From:
Subject: Re: Looking Back: Truong and Polgar concealed their marriage to each
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samsloan wrote:
> [quote="lblair"][quote="samsloan"]... Certain questions could not be
> asked of certain candidates, such as whether they were married to each
> other or not. ...[/quote]
> A note that any member can look up:[quote="samsloan"]samsloan 11115292
> Post:27774
> Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:27 pm
> Thread: A Request to Paul Truong for Further Documentation
> ...
> ... Why does he refuse to answer simple questions such as, is he
> married to Susan Polgar or not?
> ...[/quote] http://main.uschess.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=27774#27774[/quote]
>
> Thank you Louis Blair for pointing out this very interesting thread,
> especially in view of what has happened since then.
>
> Unfortunately the records are sealed but those who remember will know
> that starting in December 2006 they were asked many times on the USCF
> Issues Forum whether they were married to each other or not.
>
> Each time, they complained to the forum moderators and got the
> question pulled so that we can no longer see the questions and their
> non-answers.
>
> This is a good example of the Moderator Bias that Steve Owens now
> claims did not exist.
>
> Sam Sloan
This is insane. You claim that the question could not be asked on the
USCF Forum, while quoting a post (still visible) in which you asked
the question. You just proved yourself a liar. Did I say this was
insane? No, anyone who takes you seriously is insane.
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Date: 13 Jul 2008 04:00:07
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Looking Back: Truong and Polgar concealed their marriage to each
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[quote="lblair"][quote="samsloan"]... Certain questions could not be
asked of certain candidates, such as whether they were married to each
other or not. ...[/quote]
A note that any member can look up:[quote="samsloan"]samsloan 11115292
Post:27774
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:27 pm
Thread: A Request to Paul Truong for Further Documentation
...
... Why does he refuse to answer simple questions such as, is he
married to Susan Polgar or not?
...[/quote] http://main.uschess.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=27774#27774[/quote]
Thank you Louis Blair for pointing out this very interesting thread,
especially in view of what has happened since then.
Unfortunately the records are sealed but those who remember will know
that starting in December 2006 they were asked many times on the USCF
Issues Forum whether they were married to each other or not.
Each time, they complained to the forum moderators and got the
question pulled so that we can no longer see the questions and their
non-answers.
This is a good example of the Moderator Bias that Steve Owens now
claims did not exist.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 13 Jul 2008 16:37:48
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R.?=
Subject: Re: Looking Back: Truong and Polgar concealed their marriage to each other
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[...]
>
> Unfortunately the records are sealed but those who remember will know
> that starting in December 2006 they were asked many times on the USCF
> Issues Forum whether they were married to each other or not.
>
> Each time, they complained to the forum moderators and got the
> question pulled so that we can no longer see the questions and their
> non-answers.
Completely appropriate - or do you think that it is
appropriate to keep asking you why you married a gaggle
of illiterate mailorder brides?
>
> This is a good example of the Moderator Bias that Steve Owens now
> claims did not exist.
>
> Sam Sloan
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