Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

Date: 20 Jul 2006 00:17:12
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies
deleted.

Chess politics gadfly Louis Blair has been going around Wikipedia for
the last few days campaigning to have all my biographies of chess
personalities deleted.

Starting early this morning, July 19, 2006, he has been succeeding.

Since early this morning, ten of my biographies of chess players have
been deleted. In fact, they have "salted the earth", meaning that no
biography of those persons can ever be posted again to Wikipedia.

Those ten deleted biographies cannot even be seen in the index any
more.

About 20 more have been substantially modified or "nominated for
deletion".

Only one person is doing all this. He is acting at the request of
Louis Blair.

I will give an example of one that is on the vrerge of being deleted
right now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Borg

This is the biography of Geoffrey Borg, who was just elected
Vice-President of FIDE at the meetings in Italy. He is also a lawyer
and President of the Malta Chess Federation. He is clearly a notable
person within the standards of Wikipedia.

Yet early this morning he was noiminated for speedy deletion. Some
person whom I do not know but who has an Italian name saved this one
from being deleted immediately by posting some additional links to Mr.
Borg.

So, it was taken off the speedy deletion list but is still nominated
for deletion.

I have posted about 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. Anybody here
who has their own biography on Wikipedia needs to go there now, see if
it is still there or has been changed and watch it by the hour to try
to stop Louis Blair and his allies from deleting it.

Also, somebody should complain to Jimbo, the orner of Wikipedia.

Sam Sloan

Date: 09 Aug 2006 16:00:50
From:
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

Sam Sloan ([email protected])
(NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
wrote (1 Aug 2006 02:06:11 -0700):

7 An arbitration proceeding is about to be started against
7 Louis Blair regarding this.

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"Reject." - Dmcdevit (18:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC))
"Reject." - Fred Bauder (17:45, 6 August 2006 (UTC))
"Reject." - SimonP (14:04, 8 August 2006 (UTC))
"Closed. This isn't going anywhere." - Tony Sidaway
(21:53, 9 August 2006)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&oldid=68693060#Sam_Sloan
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Some past Wikipedia experience:
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"it is easy to veryify that there is auch a blacklist. ..."
- Sam Sloan (19:08, 22 December 2005 (UTC))
_
"If Sam Sloan is basing his contribution of a blacklist
based on conversations (newsgroup or otherwise),
emails, or his own suspicions that such a blacklist
exists, that is by definition original research and is not
allowed. However, if he were to cite reliable sources
that declare its existence, then its mention may be
included. This is non-negotiable. If Sam Sloan
continues his attempts to include this in the article
against the consensus formed by other editors on this
page, I will reluctantly have to impose a block."
- Howard Cheng (06:37, 3 January 2006 (UTC))
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chess_Life
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"I do object when [Ralf Callenberg], JoanneB
and Janeth, none of whom know anything
about chess, try to delete the entire article."
- Sam Sloan (16:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC))
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Dorsch
(The result of the debate was delete. - howcheng
20:09, 29 December 2005 (UTC))
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tom_Dorsch

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_
"I am having a dispute with [Howard Cheng]
and I request the Arbitration Committee to
resolve it." - Sam Sloan
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Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration
Sam Sloan against Howcheng regarding Tom Dorsch
(soundly rejected - Dmcdevit 06:23, 11 February 2006)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&oldid=39171201#User:Sam_Sloan_against_User:Howcheng_regarding_Tom_Dorsch

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"The act by [Howard Cheng] to delete my Tom
Dorsch article was clearly wrong. ... I need
an order of protection telling [Howard Cheng]
to stay from my articles until he learns
something about chess." - Sam Sloan
(03:03, 4 ch 2006 (UTC))
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Wikipedia:Deletion review/Tom Dorsch
(deletion endorsed - Splash 23:53, 10 ch 2006)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Deletion_review&oldid=43215421#Tom_Dorsch

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"[Paul Rubin] has a history of vandalizing
almost every article I write." - Sam Sloan
(05:52, 19 ch 2006 (UTC))
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"his request for a 'cease and desist' order
is outside the scope of mediation." - Paul
Rubin (23:45, 19 ch 2006 (UTC))
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation&oldid=44627462#User:Phr_against_User:Sam_Sloan

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"[Ralf Callenberg] is clearly unwilling to
abide by the rules of Wikipedia and
therefore I am asking that if he continues
he be blocked." - Sam Sloan (04:11, 19
ch 2006 (UTC))
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"This doesn't appear to be a request for
mediation" - Ralf Callenberg (20:24,
19 ch 2006 (UTC))
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation&oldid=44627462#User:Rook_wave_against_User:Sam_Sloan

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"the arbitration committee should consider
this dispute [with Paul Rubin]." - Sam Sloan
(10:15, 20 ch 2006 (UTC))
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Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration
[Sam Sloan vs. Paul Rubin]
(rejected - Sam Korn 11:11, 25 ch 2006)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&oldid=45398933#User:Phr_vs._User:Sam_Sloan

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"[Ralf Callenberg] ... should not be allowed
to delete or modify my postings." - Sam
Sloan (01:35, 20 ch 2006 (UTC))
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Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration
[Sam Sloan vs. Ralf Callenberg]
(rejected - Sam Korn 11:11, 25 ch 2006)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&oldid=45398933#User:Rook_wave_vs._User:Sam_Sloan

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"I am requesting that, if possible and
legally allowed, your chess federation
bring a proceeding to censure or
reprimand or otherwise punish Herr
Callenberg." - Sam Sloan
([email protected], NNTP-Posting-Host:
68.199.110.255, Fri, 07 Apr 2006
14:54:46 GMT)
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http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/msg/243babc58231400b?hl=en

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Date: 09 Aug 2006 07:40:38
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

Sam Sloan wrote:
> Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies
> deleted.
>
> Chess politics gadfly Louis Blair has been going around Wikipedia for
> the last few days campaigning to have all my biographies of chess
> personalities deleted.
>
> Starting early this morning, July 19, 2006, he has been succeeding.
>
> Since early this morning, ten of my biographies of chess players have
> been deleted. In fact, they have "salted the earth", meaning that no
> biography of those persons can ever be posted again to Wikipedia.
>
> Those ten deleted biographies cannot even be seen in the index any
> more.
>
> About 20 more have been substantially modified or "nominated for
> deletion".
>
> Only one person is doing all this. He is acting at the request of
> Louis Blair.
>
> I will give an example of one that is on the vrerge of being deleted
> right now.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Borg
>
> This is the biography of Geoffrey Borg, who was just elected
> Vice-President of FIDE at the meetings in Italy. He is also a lawyer
> and President of the Malta Chess Federation. He is clearly a notable
> person within the standards of Wikipedia.
>
> Yet early this morning he was noiminated for speedy deletion. Some
> person whom I do not know but who has an Italian name saved this one
> from being deleted immediately by posting some additional links to Mr.
> Borg.
>
> So, it was taken off the speedy deletion list but is still nominated
> for deletion.
>
> I have posted about 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. Anybody here
> who has their own biography on Wikipedia needs to go there now, see if
> it is still there or has been changed and watch it by the hour to try
> to stop Louis Blair and his allies from deleting it.
>
> Also, somebody should complain to Jimbo, the orner of Wikipedia.
>
> Sam Sloan

Sam,
If you wish.. you may use Zed to post mini biographies of players. That

was one of my original intents when I started the Zed project. As you
input information it is updated into his resopnse database. It takes 24

to 48 hours to update.
Rob
http://demo.vhost.pandorabots.com/pandora/talk?botid=97cfdd9a1e35339a

Date: 08 Aug 2006 17:31:10
From:
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

Date: 07 Aug 2006 18:46:44
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

Sam Sloan wrote:
> Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies
> deleted.
>
> Chess politics gadfly Louis Blair has been going around Wikipedia for
> the last few days campaigning to have all my biographies of chess
> personalities deleted.
>
> Starting early this morning, July 19, 2006, he has been succeeding.
>
> Since early this morning, ten of my biographies of chess players have
> been deleted. In fact, they have "salted the earth", meaning that no
> biography of those persons can ever be posted again to Wikipedia.
>
> Those ten deleted biographies cannot even be seen in the index any
> more.
>
> About 20 more have been substantially modified or "nominated for
> deletion".
>
> Only one person is doing all this. He is acting at the request of
> Louis Blair.
>
> I will give an example of one that is on the vrerge of being deleted
> right now.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Borg
>
> This is the biography of Geoffrey Borg, who was just elected
> Vice-President of FIDE at the meetings in Italy. He is also a lawyer
> and President of the Malta Chess Federation. He is clearly a notable
> person within the standards of Wikipedia.
>
> Yet early this morning he was noiminated for speedy deletion. Some
> person whom I do not know but who has an Italian name saved this one
> from being deleted immediately by posting some additional links to Mr.
> Borg.
>
> So, it was taken off the speedy deletion list but is still nominated
> for deletion.
>
> I have posted about 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. Anybody here
> who has their own biography on Wikipedia needs to go there now, see if
> it is still there or has been changed and watch it by the hour to try
> to stop Louis Blair and his allies from deleting it.
>
> Also, somebody should complain to Jimbo, the orner of Wikipedia.
>
> Sam Sloan

Sam,
If you wish.. you may use Zed to post mini biographies of players. That
was one of my original intents when I started the Zed project. As you
input information it is updated into his resopnse database. It takes 24
to 48 hours to update.
Rob

Date: 06 Aug 2006 04:05:41
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (wlod)
Subject: Sloan, take the Sanny's offer!

Sanny wrote to Sam Sloan:

> If you have the Backup you can Post them at
> http://www.softtanks.com/Personality/add.php?uid=1
>
> Here none of your Biographies will be deleted
> without getting your passwords.

PERFECT!!!

Sam Sloan's pseudo-encyclopedic articles
should be posted **exclusivey** at Sanny's
site.

Thank you Sanny for your sincere attempt
to save wikipedia from dishonest entries by
Sam Sloan.

Wlod

Date: 05 Aug 2006 13:12:49
From:
Subject: Re: Sam Sloan's worked hard to create biographies and some stupid deleted it.

Taylor Kingston wrote (5 Aug 2006 09:03:58 -0700):
7 Sanny, you understand nothing of the Sloan/Wikipedia situation.
7 Sam is doing no one any good. Follow the advice of the great
7 Phil Innes: "Beware these certainties when wiser men are
7 silent."
7 In other words, it's better not to butt in when you don't know
7 what's going on.

_
Phil Innes wrote (Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:37:06 GMT):

7 Kingston doesn't recognise that the phrase means that if you
7 cannot add substantive material or some othe value of
7 appreciation, to shut your damned ignorant mouth.
7
7 That is also the issue with Wikipedia - if you can improve on the
7 biographies by all means do so [which does not mean having it
7 your own way] - but destroying them wholesale is wicked, and
7 the actions of boys, don't know and don't care fer nuthin'.
7
7 Why Kingston cannot accept such an adult view of things is
7 not my business, mine is simply to say that he is a sad
7 destructive lout, overconcerned about appearing good in public,
7 no matter who suffers.
7
7 In this instance, chess history suffers.

_
I suggest that Phil Innes take some time to learn more about
how Wikipedia works.
_
"... Please read the content at the following links very
carefully:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cite_your_sources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view
_
... Until you can prove all of these claims, they have no
business being in the article. Wikipedia is not a forum for you
to write articles chock full of your own opinions, speculations,
and rants. ..." - Howard Cheng (to Sam Sloan) (22:30,
3 ch 2006 (UTC))
_
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edward_G._Winter
_
Here is some of what I found at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability :
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"Editors adding new material to an article should cite
a reputable source, or it may be removed by any editor."
_
"The obligation to provide a reputable source lies with
the editors wishing to include the material, not on those
seeking to remove it."
_
"Remove unsourced material about living persons
immediately if it could be viewed as criticism"

Date: 05 Aug 2006 12:49:39
From:
Subject: Re: Sam Sloan's worked hard to create biographies and some stupid deleted it.

Chess One wrote:
>
> In this instance, chess history suffers.

Oh good, the Brattleboro Bedlam has decided to share his historical
insight. Here's what he produced before:

"In short: I have not found a single first-hand refererence nor
artifact which would
verify that the event [Cambridge Springs 1904] ever took place." - Phil
Innes

Date: 05 Aug 2006 12:45:47
From:
Subject: Re: Sam Sloan's worked hard to create biographies and some stupid deleted it.

Sanny ([email protected])
(NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.144.131.12)
wrote (5 Aug 2006 06:51:41 -0700):

7 Sam Sloan wrote:
7 > Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies
7 > deleted.
7 >
7 > Chess politics gadfly Louis Blair has been going around
7 > Wikipedia for the last few days campaigning to have all my
7 > biographies of chess personalities deleted.
7
7 True there are some people who do good for all. While some
7 stupids do nothing but destroys others property and hard work.
7
7 Bad people just blame the hard working people as they have
7 nothing in themselves. ...

_
About five months ago, I made some comments about an Edward
Winter biography. More recently I have not written anything at
Wikipedia that could be considered a Sam Sloan biography
deletion recommendation. Perhaps I should, but, for better or for
worse, I have not.

_
Sanny ([email protected])
(NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.144.131.12)
wrote (5 Aug 2006 06:51:41 -0700):

7 ... One should not destroy other art work, litrature work. It
7 takes lot of time and money increating such biographies. If you
7 find mistake better is to suggest the author about your
7 problems instead deleteting books and biographies of others.

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I have not deleted any books or biographies.
_
I suggest that Sanny take some time to learn more about how
Wikipedia works.
_
_
"... Please read the content at the following links very
carefully:
_
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cite_your_sources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view
_
... Until you can prove all of these claims, they have no
business being in the article. Wikipedia is not a forum for you
to write articles chock full of your own opinions, speculations,
and rants. ..." - Howard Cheng (to Sam Sloan) (22:30,
3 ch 2006 (UTC))

Date: 05 Aug 2006 12:42:28
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Sam Sloan's worked hard to create biographies and some stupid deleted it.

Chess One wrote:

> In this instance, chess history suffers.

Indeed, Phil, chess history suffers when it is at the mercy of Sam
Sloan. If Dr Blair or others want to come to the rescue, more power to
them.

Date: 05 Aug 2006 09:03:58
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Sam Sloan's worked hard to create biographies and some stupid deleted it.

Sanny wrote:
> Sam Sloan wrote:
> > Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies
> > deleted.
> >
> > Chess politics gadfly Louis Blair has been going around Wikipedia for
> > the last few days campaigning to have all my biographies of chess
> > personalities deleted.
> >
>
> True there are some people who do good for all. While some stupids do
> nothing but destroys others property and hard work.
>
> Bad people just blame the hard working people as they have nothing in
> themselves.
>
> You have created the Biographies of good Chess People.
>
> If you have the Backup you can Post them at
> http://www.softtanks.com/Personality/add.php?uid=1
>
> Here none of your Biographies will be deleted without getting your
> passwords.
>
> One should not destroy other art work, litrature work. It takes lot of
> time and money increating such biographies. If you find mistake better
> is to suggest the author about your problems instead deleteting books
> and biographies of others.

Sanny, you understand nothing of the Sloan/Wikipedia situation. Sam
is doing no one any good. Follow the advice of the great Phil Innes:
"Beware these certainties when wiser men are silent."
In other words, it's better not to butt in when you don't know what's
going on.

Date: 05 Aug 2006 19:37:06
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Sam Sloan's worked hard to create biographies and some stupid deleted it.

"Taylor Kingston" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Sanny wrote:
>> Sam Sloan wrote:
>> > Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies
>> > deleted.
>> >
>> > Chess politics gadfly Louis Blair has been going around Wikipedia for
>> > the last few days campaigning to have all my biographies of chess
>> > personalities deleted.
>> >
>>
>> True there are some people who do good for all. While some stupids do
>> nothing but destroys others property and hard work.
>>
>> Bad people just blame the hard working people as they have nothing in
>> themselves.
>>
>> You have created the Biographies of good Chess People.
>>
>> If you have the Backup you can Post them at
>> http://www.softtanks.com/Personality/add.php?uid=1
>>
>> Here none of your Biographies will be deleted without getting your
>> passwords.
>>
>> One should not destroy other art work, litrature work. It takes lot of
>> time and money increating such biographies. If you find mistake better
>> is to suggest the author about your problems instead deleteting books
>> and biographies of others.
>
> Sanny, you understand nothing of the Sloan/Wikipedia situation. Sam
> is doing no one any good. Follow the advice of the great Phil Innes:
> "Beware these certainties when wiser men are silent."

Kingston doesn't recognise that the phrase means that if you cannot add
substantive material or some othe value of appreciation, to shut your damned
ignorant mouth.

That is also the issue with Wikipedia - if you can improve on the
biographies by all means do so [which does not mean having it your own
way] - but destroying them wholesale is wicked, and the actions of boys,
don't know and don't care fer nuthin'.

Why Kingston cannot accept such an adult view of things is not my business,
mine is simply to say that he is a sad destructive lout, overconcerned about
appearing good in public, no matter who suffers.

In this instance, chess history suffers.

Phil Innes

> In other words, it's better not to butt in when you don't know what's
> going on.

Date: 05 Aug 2006 06:51:41
From: Sanny
Subject: Sam Sloan's worked hard to create biographies and some stupid deleted it.

Date: 04 Aug 2006 18:52:04
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

[email protected] wrote:

> Sam Sloan ([email protected])
> (NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
> wrote (1 Aug 2006 02:06:11 -0700):
>
> > An arbitration proceeding is about to be started against
> > Louis Blair regarding this.
>
> _
> One arbitrator's opinion has already been expressed:
> _
> "Reject. Prior dispute resolution?" - Dmcdevit
> (18:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC))
> _
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration

There should be a restrain order
against Sam Sloan, to keep Sloan
away from wikipedia. He's done
enough of harm. Let him stick to USCF.

Wlod

Date: 04 Aug 2006 17:13:12
From:
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

Sam Sloan ([email protected])
(NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
wrote (1 Aug 2006 02:06:11 -0700):

7 An arbitration proceeding is about to be started against
7 Louis Blair regarding this.

_
One arbitrator's opinion has already been expressed:
_
"Reject. Prior dispute resolution?" - Dmcdevit
(18:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC))
_
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration

Date: 01 Aug 2006 18:20:32
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (wlod)
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

Vlad Polock wrote:
> X-No-archive: yes
>
> "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" > Do something constructive for USCF or
> whatever.
> >
>
> Stop lusting after Sload, or he may file a restraining order against you. I
> certainly think arbitration may be the only way to get you off his back.

Stop it, Sam,

Wlod

Date: 02 Aug 2006 03:33:56
From: Vlad Polock
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

X-No-archive: yes

"Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (wlod)" < > Stop it, Sam,
>

I am getting a strong GAY vibe from you. You like S&M, you like getting
spanked. You have had at least a few sessions with a dominatrix.

Date: 01 Aug 2006 03:44:08
From:
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

samsloan wrote:
> An arbitration proceeding is about to be started against Louis Blair
> regarding this.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JzG#Vandalizm_and_Lies_by_You

"I have just been elected to the Executive Board of the United States
Chess Federation and you can expect to receive a strongly worded letter
soon if this miscxonduct is not corrected." - Sam Sloan 09:02, 1
August 2006 (UTC)

For sheer idiocy, this ranks with the best of Innes's threats. Oh, the
next year will be a bumper crop of clueless comedy with Sloan in
'power'.

Date: 01 Aug 2006 03:15:29
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

sam sloan again (assuming that gmail sloan is THE sam sloan):

> An arbitration proceeding is about to be started against [...]

Your viciousness will get you nowhere.

Do something constructive for USCF or whatever.

Wlod

Date: 01 Aug 2006 12:47:26
From: Vlad Polock
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

X-No-archive: yes

"Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" > Do something constructive for USCF or
whatever.
>

Stop lusting after Sload, or he may file a restraining order against you. I
certainly think arbitration may be the only way to get you off his back.

Date: 01 Aug 2006 02:06:11
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

An arbitration proceeding is about to be started against Louis Blair
regarding this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JzG#Vandalizm_and_Lies_by_You

Date: 01 Aug 2006 03:58:20
From: Paul Rubin
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

"samsloan" <[email protected] > writes:
> An arbitration proceeding is about to be started against Louis Blair
> regarding this.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JzG#Vandalizm_and_Lies_by_You

Sam, trust me, this arb case has no chance, and opening it is a waste
of time at best. You might be better off filing a request for
mediation, except Louis Blair doesn't even have a Wikipedia account,
and doesn't edit with any frequency.

However, in that talk message, you actually say you're going to open
an arb case against JzG (a Wikipedia admin). That case has no chance
either, of course. Try mediation or an RfC. The RfC will get nowhere
either, but it won't be quite as embarassingly stupid as another arb
case.

Date: 31 Jul 2006 22:32:02
From: Louis Blair
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

Sam Sloan ([email protected])
(NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:17:12 GMT):

7 ... I will give an example of one [of my Wikipedia chess
7 biographies] that is on the vrerge of being deleted right
7 now.
7
7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Borg
7 ...

_
"The result was delete." - Proto (10:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC))
_
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Geoffrey_Borg
_
(I did not participate in the deletion discussion. Indeed,
I never mentioned Geoffrey Borg in any communication
that I wrote to Wikipedia.)

Date: 20 Jul 2006 20:43:07
From: Louis Blair
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

Phil Innes wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:57:07 GMT):

7 do i understand that Louis Blair has circulated material
7 from imposters without identifying them as imposters?

_
I, of course, can not say what Phil Innes understands. My
guess is that Phil Innes should note whether or not Sam
Sloan has asserted that any imposters are involved in this
matter.

_
Phil Innes wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:57:07 GMT):

7 is Blair stating that his action has no explicit, rather than
7 implicit, intent? ...

_
I, of course, am not stating what Phil Innes describes. My
words indicate what I am stating:
_
"... those posts ... did not recommend any course
of action. ... The posts contained no requests."
- Louis Blair (20 Jul 2006 06:32:22 -0700)

Date: 20 Jul 2006 20:25:52
From: Louis Blair
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

Sam Sloan ([email protected])
(NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:17:12 GMT):
7 Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess
7 biographies deleted.
7 ...
7 Since early this morning, ten of my biographies of chess
7 players have been deleted. In fact, they have "salted the
7 earth", meaning that no biography of those persons can
7 ever be posted again to Wikipedia.
7 ...
7 About 20 more have been substantially modified or
7 "nominated for deletion".
7
7 Only one person is doing all this. He is acting at the
7 request of Louis Blair. ...
_
Sam Sloan ([email protected])
(NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:31:53 GMT):
7 Yesterday, July 19, 2006, Louis Blair posted 36 times an article
7 entitled "Sam Sloan announcement". ...
_
I wrote (20 Jul 2006 06:32:22 -0700):
7 If Sam Sloan read any of those posts, he should have noticed
7 that they did not recommend deletion. Indeed, they did not
7 recommend any course of action. ... The posts contained no
7 requests.

_
Sam Sloan ([email protected])
(NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:29:41 GMT):

7 Louis Blair is playing games with words. It is perfectly obvious
7 that when he posts a bogus "Sam Sloan announcement" to the
7 User Talk pages of several Wikipedians who have a history of
7 deleting my postings, that he is waving a red flag in front of a
7 bull, telling them to delete some more of my postings.

_
Here, Sam Sloan is backing down on his original claims. Look
at the title of this thread: "... all my ... biographies ...". Here,
he
switches to "some more" and chooses not to refer to anyone
"acting at the request of Louis Blair." Also, Sam Sloan chooses
not to be specific about what was supposedly "bogus".

_
Sam Sloan ([email protected])
(NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:29:41 GMT):

7 Here are some of the "Sam Sloan announcement" postings
7 by Louis Blair yesterday:
7
7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JzG#Sam_Sloan_announcement
7 ...
7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dmcdevit#Sam_Sloan_announcement
7
7 Only one of the above has actually acted in this request. ...

_
Now, Sam Sloan is writing "request", again. The posts contained
no requests.

Date: 20 Jul 2006 06:32:22
From:
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

Date: 20 Jul 2006 16:57:07
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

do i understand that Louis Blair has circulated material from imposters
without identifying them as imposters?

is Blair stating that his action has no explicit, rather than implicit,
intent?

perhaps this is even legal where he is, but not here

phil innes

<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sam Sloan ([email protected])
> (NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
> wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:17:12 GMT):
> 7 ... Chess politics gadfly Louis Blair has been going around
> 7 Wikipedia for the last few days campaigning to have all my
> 7 biographies of chess personalities deleted. ...
> _
> I wrote (19 Jul 2006 21:12:36 -0700):
> 7 About four and a half months ago, I made some comments
> 7 about an Edward Winter biography. More recently I have not
> 7 written anything at Wikipedia that could be considered a Sam
> 7 Sloan biography deletion recommendation. Perhaps I should,
> 7 but, for better or for worse, I have not.
>
> _
> Sam Sloan ([email protected])
> (NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
> wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:31:53 GMT):
>
> 7 A lie by Louis Blair.
> 7
> 7 Yesterday, July 19, 2006, Louis Blair posted 36 times an article
> 7 entitled "Sam Sloan announcement". ...
>
> _
> If Sam Sloan read any of those posts, he should have noticed that
> they did not recommend deletion. Indeed, they did not recommend
> any course of action.
> _
> "... [one person] is acting at the request of Louis Blair.
> ..." - Sam Sloan ([email protected],
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255, Thu, 20 Jul 2006
> 00:17:12 GMT)
> _
> The posts contained no requests.
>
> _
> Sam Sloan ([email protected])
> (NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
> wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:31:53 GMT):
>
> 7 ... The obvious purpose of these 36 postings by Louis Blair
> 7 yesterday was to get these people like Bill Brock plus Wikipedians
> 7 such as Howard Cheng who goes by the User ID Howcheng to go
> 7 around and delete all of the articles written by me. ...
>
> _
> They have not done so in the past. Why would they do so now?
>
> _
> Sam Sloan ([email protected])
> (NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
> wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:31:53 GMT):
>
> 7 ... Unfortunately, no I can think of no way that legal action can be
> 7 brought to stop Louis Blair from vandalizing or deleting the
> 7 biographies of chess personalities.
>
> _
> Can Sam Sloan give a specific example of "vandalizing" or deleting
> that I have done?
> _
> By the way, whatever happened with the attempt to seek punishment
> for "Herr Callenberg"?
> _
> "I am requesting that, if possible and
> legally allowed, your chess federation
> bring a proceeding to censure or
> reprimand or otherwise punish Herr
> Callenberg." - Sam Sloan
> ([email protected],
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255,
> Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:54:46 GMT)
>

Date: 20 Jul 2006 16:29:41
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

On 20 Jul 2006 06:32:22 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>Sam Sloan ([email protected])
>(NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
>wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:17:12 GMT):
>7 ... Chess politics gadfly Louis Blair has been going around
>7 Wikipedia for the last few days campaigning to have all my
>7 biographies of chess personalities deleted. ...
>_
>I wrote (19 Jul 2006 21:12:36 -0700):
>7 About four and a half months ago, I made some comments
>7 about an Edward Winter biography. More recently I have not
>7 written anything at Wikipedia that could be considered a Sam
>7 Sloan biography deletion recommendation. Perhaps I should,
>7 but, for better or for worse, I have not.
>
>_
>Sam Sloan ([email protected])
>(NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
>wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:31:53 GMT):
>
>7 A lie by Louis Blair.
>7
>7 Yesterday, July 19, 2006, Louis Blair posted 36 times an article
>7 entitled "Sam Sloan announcement". ...
>
>_
>If Sam Sloan read any of those posts, he should have noticed that
>they did not recommend deletion. Indeed, they did not recommend
>any course of action.
>_
> "... [one person] is acting at the request of Louis Blair.
> ..." - Sam Sloan ([email protected],
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255, Thu, 20 Jul 2006
> 00:17:12 GMT)
>_
>The posts contained no requests.

Louis Blair is playing games with words. It is perfectly obvious that
when he posts a bogus "Sam Sloan announcement" to the User Talk pages
of several Wikipedians who have a history of deleting my postings,
that he is waving a red flag in front of a bull, telling them to
delete some more of my postings.

Here are some of the "Sam Sloan announcement" postings by Louis Blair
yesterday:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JzG#Sam_Sloan_announcement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Howcheng#Sam_Sloan_announcement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jdforrester#Sam_Sloan_announcement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Olorin28#Sam_Sloan_announcement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Billbrock#Sam_Sloan_announcement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Phr#Sam_Sloan_announcement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rook_wave

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sasquatch#Sam_Sloan_announcement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sjakkalle#Sam_Sloan_announcement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dmcdevit#Sam_Sloan_announcement

Only one of the above has actually acted in this request. That is User
LzG who has deleted or modified about 50 of my biographies since
yesterday.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JzG

Sam Sloan

Date: 20 Jul 2006 19:02:59
From: Sam Salomb
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

X-No-archive: yes

"Sam Sloan" <User LzG who has deleted or modified about 50 of my biographies
since yesterday.
>

I checked his/her contributions and it spent a lot of time of GAY FUEL which
is a Wikipedia entry about a product. So much for Wikipedia NOT promoting
SPAM.

Date: 20 Jul 2006 13:56:28
From: Sam Salomb
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

To Louis Blair:

I am not sure if you are using some kind of freeware as your internet/usenet
browser, but I just delete everything you post.

Your messages are so cluttered with 77777777s all over the place and you
quote from other messages in the middle of whatever you are posting and none
of it makes any sense.

If you are going to post something, then just post your own words and stop
splicing other people's reks into your own convoluted messages.

Date: 20 Jul 2006 07:02:26
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:56:28 GMT, "Sam Salomb" <[email protected] >
wrote:

>To Louis Blair:

>I am not sure if you are using some kind of freeware as your internet/usenet
>browser, but I just delete everything you post.

>Your messages are so cluttered with 77777777s all over the place and you
>quote from other messages in the middle of whatever you are posting and none
>of it makes any sense.

>If you are going to post something, then just post your own words and stop
>splicing other people's reks into your own convoluted messages.

When you reinvent the wheel, the end product sometimes has lumps and
protuberances and doesn't quite roll right.

Date: 20 Jul 2006 00:48:49
From: Jerzy
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is giving Sam Sloan a wedgie

Tim Peters napisal(a):
> X-No-archive: yes
>
> "London Chess" <> Mr. Blair is doing the right thing. All your bloody craps
> should be
> > deleted promptly.
> >
> Why should others suffer because you cretins hate Sam Sloan? It seems like a
> hundred Chess players are getting trashed due to the hatred that you creeps
> have for Sloan. He recently posted my bio and I was very happy with it until
> it got deleted.

Of course, some morons think that they are saving the world by deleting
Sam`s articles but in fact they are destroying it.

Regards,

Jerzy

Date: 20 Jul 2006 05:46:26
From: Anders Thulin
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies

Sam Sloan wrote:

> Starting early this morning, July 19, 2006, he has been succeeding.

And that is because ... ?

--
Anders Thulin ath*algonet.se http://www.algonet.se/~ath

Date: 19 Jul 2006 21:12:36
From:
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

Sam Sloan ([email protected])
(NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:17:12 GMT):

7 ... Chess politics gadfly Louis Blair has been going around
7 Wikipedia for the last few days campaigning to have all my
7 biographies of chess personalities deleted. ...

_
About four and a half months ago, I made some comments
about an Edward Winter biography. More recently I have not
written anything at Wikipedia that could be considered a Sam
Sloan biography deletion recommendation. Perhaps I should,
but, for better or for worse, I have not.

_
Sam Sloan ([email protected])
(NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:17:12 GMT):

7 ... somebody should complain to Jimbo, the orner of Wikipedia.

_
Some past Wikipedia-related, Sam Sloan complaining:
_
"it is easy to veryify that there is auch a blacklist. ..."
- Sam Sloan (19:08, 22 December 2005 (UTC))
_
"If Sam Sloan is basing his contribution of a blacklist
based on conversations (newsgroup or otherwise),
emails, or his own suspicions that such a blacklist
exists, that is by definition original research and is not
allowed. However, if he were to cite reliable sources
that declare its existence, then its mention may be
included. This is non-negotiable. If Sam Sloan
continues his attempts to include this in the article
against the consensus formed by other editors on this
page, I will reluctantly have to impose a block."
- howcheng (06:37, 3 January 2006 (UTC))
_
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chess_Life
_
_
"I do object when [Ralf Callenberg], JoanneB
and Janeth, none of whom know anything
about chess, try to delete the entire article."
- Sam Sloan (16:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC))
_
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Dorsch
(The result of the debate was delete. - howcheng
20:09, 29 December 2005 (UTC))
_
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tom_Dorsch
_
_
"I am having a dispute with Howcheng and
I request the Arbitration Committee to
resolve it." - Sam Sloan
_
Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration
Sam Sloan against Howcheng regarding Tom Dorsch
(soundly rejected - Dmcdevit 06:23, 11 February 2006)
_
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=39178616&oldid=39171201
_
_
"The act by Howcheng to delete my Tom
Dorsch article was clearly wrong. ... I need
an order of protection telling Howcheng
to stay from my articles until he learns
something about chess." - Sam Sloan
(03:03, 4 ch 2006 (UTC))
_
Wikipedia:Deletion review/Tom Dorsch
(deletion endorsed - Splash 23:53, 10 ch 2006)
_
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ADeletion_review&diff=43217170&oldid=43215421
_
_
"[Paul Rubin] has a history of vandalizing
almost every article I write." - Sam Sloan
(05:52, 19 ch 2006 (UTC))
_
"his request for a 'cease and desist' order
is outside the scope of mediation." - Paul
Rubin (23:45, 19 ch 2006 (UTC))
_
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation&oldid=44627462#User:Phr_against_User:Sam_Sloan
_
_
"[Ralf Callenberg] is clearly unwilling to
abide by the rules of Wikipedia and
therefore I am asking that if he continues
he be blocked." - Sam Sloan (04:11, 19
ch 2006 (UTC))
_
"This doesn't appear to be a request for
mediation" - Ralf Callenberg (20:24,
19 ch 2006 (UTC))
_
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation&oldid=44627462#User:Phr_against_User:Sam_Sloan
_
_
"the arbitration committee should consider
this dispute [with Paul Rubin]." - Sam Sloan
(10:15, 20 ch 2006 (UTC))
_
Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration
[Sam Sloan vs. Paul Rubin]
(rejected - Sam Korn 11:11, 25 ch 2006)
_
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_arbitration&diff=45444953&oldid=45399095
_
_
"[Ralf Callenberg] ... should not be allowed
to delete or modify my postings." - Sam
Sloan (01:35, 20 ch 2006 (UTC))
_
Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration
[Sam Sloan vs. Ralf Callenberg]
(rejected - Sam Korn 11:11, 25 ch 2006)
_
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_arbitration&diff=45444953&oldid=45399095
_
_
"I am requesting that, if possible and
legally allowed, your chess federation
bring a proceeding to censure or
reprimand or otherwise punish Herr
Callenberg." - Sam Sloan (Fri,
07 Apr 2006 14:54:46 GMT)

Date: 20 Jul 2006 10:31:53
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

On 19 Jul 2006 21:12:36 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>Sam Sloan ([email protected])
>(NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255)
>wrote (Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:17:12 GMT):
>
>7 ... Chess politics gadfly Louis Blair has been going around
>7 Wikipedia for the last few days campaigning to have all my
>7 biographies of chess personalities deleted. ...
>
>_
>About four and a half months ago, I made some comments
>about an Edward Winter biography. More recently I have not
>written anything at Wikipedia that could be considered a Sam
>Sloan biography deletion recommendation. Perhaps I should,
>but, for better or for worse, I have not.

A lie by Louis Blair.

Yesterday, July 19, 2006, Louis Blair posted 36 times an article
entitled "Sam Sloan announcement".

These postings were to the User Talk pages of people who have deleted
my postings in the past, such as Bill Brock, Paul Rubin and Ralf
Callenberg.

Louis Blair posts to Wikipedia as 137.216.208.82

This is the same IP address as he uses to post to
rec.games.chess.politics

You can see the list of "Sam Sloan announcement" postings by going to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=137.216.208.82

The obvious purpose of these 36 postings by Louis Blair yesterday was
to get these people like Bill Brock plus Wikipedians such as Howard
Cheng who goes by the User ID Howcheng to go around and delete all of
the articles written by me.

Louis Blair has been successful, as one of them, User: JzG, has
deleted or nominated for deletion or substantially modified about 50
of my chess biographies. All of this was done yesterday. You can see a
list at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=250&target=JzG

For example, my article on Ali Nihat Yazici, President of the Turkish
Chess Federation, was deleted yesterday and given "protected deleted"
status, which means that no biography of ths person can ever again be
posted to Wikipedia.

See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Nihat_Yazici

It now says: "This page has been deleted, and protected to prevent
recreation."

If you look at the history, you will see that no trace of the article
remains:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ali_Nihat_Yazici&action=history

Unfortunately, no I can think of no way that legal action can be
brought to stop Louis Blair from vandalizing or deleting the
biographies of chess personalities.

Sam Sloan

Date: 20 Jul 2006 10:51:01
From: Sam Salomb
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies deleted

"Sam Sloan" < I can think of no way that legal action can be brought to stop
Louis Blair from vandalizing or deleting the biographies of chess
personalities.
>

Don't you understand that Wikipedia is a joke? It is the ingenius way that
one guy created to get rich from the work of thousands of wheelchair-bound
shut-ins and others who have no meaningful lives (like you). He pays no
salaries, and yet there are thousands of people like you fighting with each
other to add content to the Wikipedia.

Get A Life. Then you will realize that writing biographies about a bunch of
chess assholes was a real waste, especially since the man who is making
money from your work does not even know that you exist.

Date: 19 Jul 2006 17:44:03
From: London Chess
Subject: Louis Blair is giving Sam Sloan a wedgie

Mr. Blair is doing the right thing. All your bloody craps should be
deleted promptly.

Cheers,
Tony

Sam Sloan wrote:

> Louis Blair is trying to have all my Wikipedia chess biographies
> deleted.
>
> Chess politics gadfly Louis Blair has been going around Wikipedia for
> the last few days campaigning to have all my biographies of chess
> personalities deleted.
>
> Starting early this morning, July 19, 2006, he has been succeeding.
>
> Since early this morning, ten of my biographies of chess players have
> been deleted. In fact, they have "salted the earth", meaning that no
> biography of those persons can ever be posted again to Wikipedia.
>
> Those ten deleted biographies cannot even be seen in the index any
> more.
>
> About 20 more have been substantially modified or "nominated for
> deletion".
>
> Only one person is doing all this. He is acting at the request of
> Louis Blair.
>
> I will give an example of one that is on the vrerge of being deleted
> right now.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Borg
>
> This is the biography of Geoffrey Borg, who was just elected
> Vice-President of FIDE at the meetings in Italy. He is also a lawyer
> and President of the Malta Chess Federation. He is clearly a notable
> person within the standards of Wikipedia.
>
> Yet early this morning he was noiminated for speedy deletion. Some
> person whom I do not know but who has an Italian name saved this one
> from being deleted immediately by posting some additional links to Mr.
> Borg.
>
> So, it was taken off the speedy deletion list but is still nominated
> for deletion.
>
> I have posted about 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. Anybody here
> who has their own biography on Wikipedia needs to go there now, see if
> it is still there or has been changed and watch it by the hour to try
> to stop Louis Blair and his allies from deleting it.
>
> Also, somebody should complain to Jimbo, the orner of Wikipedia.
>
> Sam Sloan

Date: 20 Jul 2006 03:10:43
From: Tim Peters
Subject: Re: Louis Blair is giving Sam Sloan a wedgie

X-No-archive: yes

"London Chess" < > Mr. Blair is doing the right thing. All your bloody craps
should be
> deleted promptly.
>
Why should others suffer because you cretins hate Sam Sloan? It seems like a
hundred Chess players are getting trashed due to the hatred that you creeps
have for Sloan. He recently posted my bio and I was very happy with it until
it got deleted.