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Date: 06 Sep 2008 01:14:52
From: SAT W-7
Subject: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Ivans move is D-2 to D-4 ..

This will be a good game , lets see what ivan can do as white and what
GC can do as black.

We should play the next two games and let Ivan be white , i just want
to get a feel for how it plays white since 99 % of the time ivan has
played black vs other computers ..

nite





 
Date: 06 Sep 2008 04:18:45
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Heres the first move by Easy Level as Black.

Played P-d5 (Pd7-d5)

Pawn from d7 to d5

1. d4 d5

(Opening move)

Waiting for your move.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html



  
Date: 06 Sep 2008 09:51:53
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played N-c6 (Nb8-c6)

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6

Score: (0.08) Advantage to GetClub

Waiting for your move. Play whenever you are free.
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Bye
Sanny

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Date: 06 Sep 2008 21:50:12
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played N-f6 (Ng8-f6)

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6

Score: (0.45) Advantage to GetClub

Played Knight to f6.

0.08 is a very small advantage arround 1/12th of a pawn. That much
fluctuation is allowed.

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Sanny


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Date: 06 Sep 2008 22:45:58
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played N-e4 (Nf6-e4)

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Ne4

Score: (1.23) Advantage to GetClub

Played Knight to e4.

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Bye
Sanny

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Date: 06 Sep 2008 23:48:45
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played B-d7 (Bc8-d7)

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Ne4
5. Ne5 Bd7

Score: (0.26) Advantage to GetClub

Played Bishop to d7 saving its knight.

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Bye
Sanny


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Date: 07 Sep 2008 09:03:24
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played Qxd7 (Bd8xd7)

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Ne4
5. Ne5 Bd7
6. Nxd7 Qxd7


Score: (1.47) Advantage to GetClub

Queen takes your Knight at d7

The Center is ocupied by GetClub despite having black pieces.

Waiting for your move. Play whenever you are free.
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Bye
Sanny

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Date: 07 Sep 2008 23:24:31
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played P-a6 (Pa7-a6)

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Ne4
5. Ne5 Bd7
6. Nxd7 Qxd7
7. 0-0 a6

Score: (1.34) Advantage to GetClub

Played a6 threathening your Bishop

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Sanny


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Date: 08 Sep 2008 01:11:12
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played Q-d6 (Qd7-d6)

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Ne4
5. Ne5 Bd7
6. Nxd7 Qxd7
7. 0-0 a6
8. Bd3 Qd6

Score: (0.73) Advantage to GetClub

Played Queen to d6

Waiting for your move. Play whenever you are free.
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Bye
Sanny

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Date: 08 Sep 2008 22:32:17
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played P-e6 (Pe7-e6)

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Ne4
5. Ne5 Bd7
6. Nxd7 Qxd7
7. 0-0 a6
8. Bd3 Qd6
9. c4 e6

Score: (1.11) Advantage to GetClub

Played Pawn to e6

Waiting for your move. Play whenever you are free.
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Sanny

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Date: 08 Sep 2008 23:52:25
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played Nxd2 (Ne4xd2)

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Ne4
5. Ne5 Bd7
6. Nxd7 Qxd7
7. 0-0 a6
8. Bd3 Qd6
9. c4 e6
10. Nd2 Nxd2

Score: (0.36) Advantage to GetClub

Knight took your Knight at d2.


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Sanny


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Date: 09 Sep 2008 14:20:00
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
* Sanny <softtanks@hotmail.com > (13:32) schrieb:

> Played Q-e5 (Qd6-e7)
^
Qe5 is a legal move too.

> 11. c5 Qe7
>
> Score: (-0.19) Loss to GetClub
>
> It was a good move by IVAN. Interesting Game.

But Ivan can play Re1 now, pulling the score down below -2.16.

mfg, simon .... l


            
Date: 10 Sep 2008 02:38:24
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
* SAT W-7 <Sin768@webtv.net > (16:42) schrieb:

> Toga wanted to move the F-I rook to E-I ?

No, it was the third best move, having a much worse score than the two
captures.

> Besides a strong pawn wall the bishops and queen are set up in very
> powerful positions too.

But that pawn wall limits the mobility of the dark bishop, too.

> GC as black does not seem to be playing the aggressive game it does as
> white..

Just like Finalfun, only better. :-)

mfg, simon .... l


            
Date: 09 Sep 2008 07:42:04
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Ivans move is C-I x D-2 ,,Bishop takes Knight.

Ivan - 0,I

Your number eleven move on your record should be D-6 to E-7 Queen
move..

Toga wanted to move the F-I rook to E-I ?
Then GC moves his Knight back to E-4 saving it ....

Besides a strong pawn wall the bishops and queen are set up in very
powerful positions too.

Ivan is playing a good game so far but still you never know what of bad
move it mite make ..

GC as black does not seem to be playing the aggressive game it does as
white..



             
Date: 09 Sep 2008 08:44:43
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played P-g6 (Pg7-g6)

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Ne4
5. Ne5 Bd7
6. Nxd7 Qxd7
7. 0-0 a6
8. Bd3 Qd6
9. c4 e6
10. Nd2 Nxd2
11. c5 Qe7
12. Bxd2 g6

Score: (-0.85) Loss of 1 pawn to GetClub

Played Pawn to g6.

IVAN with White is quite strong. Looks like it will be very tough
game.

Waiting for your move. Play whenever you are free.
If we miss this thread we can start a new thread.

Bye
Sanny

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Date: 09 Sep 2008 23:32:37
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played Q-h4 (Qe7-h4)

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Ne4
5. Ne5 Bd7
6. Nxd7 Qxd7
7. 0-0 a6
8. Bd3 Qd6
9. c4 e6
10. Nd2 Nxd2
11. c5 Qe7
12. Bxd2 g6
13. b4 Qh4

Score: (-0.83) Loss of 1 pawn to GetClub

Played Queen to h4.

> I almost went to the chess mall today
> but i have a few more important
> things i need to get done.

Yes, when you meet the Chess players ask them to play Chess at
GetClub. Let me know how they play.

They can login for free and play as many as 120 games for free. Ask
them to test how they fair the Beginner & Easy Levels.

Let me know how many were able to win the Beginner Level and how many
manage to win the Easy Level

Waiting for your move. Play whenever you are free.
If we miss this thread we can start a new thread.

Bye
Sanny

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Date: 10 Sep 2008 18:30:24
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
* SAT W-7 <Sin768@webtv.net > (16:18) schrieb:

> Ivans move is .B4 to B5 ..Like that ? pawn move...

> Wow depth I8 for that pawn move , i guess ivan can make the best move
> some times ..

I took the time to let Toga II analyze this to depth 18. That took more
than one hour. How much time took your Ivan?

But the top 3 moves still are Rb1 (+1.09), a4 (+1.06) and Qa4 (+0.94),
depth 19 seems to confirm that. Ivans b5 is the twentysomethingth move.
Move a4 looks like to be followed by b5 though.

> I write my moves like that because i can get confused very easy ..I am
> not that smart .

Wow. What a critique killer: »I'm not that smart«. Gotta remember that.

But thanks for removing the hyphens.

> Yes the dark bishop is limited but still it is in the center and ready
> to attack ..

What do you mean? It can't attack any black pieces, it can only defend
white pawns.

mfg, simon .... l


                
Date: 11 Sep 2008 00:31:46
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
* SAT W-7 <Sin768@webtv.net > (18:52) schrieb:

> Ivans move is B5 x A6 ...Pawn x Pawn
>
> Ivan - 2.3
>
> I need to study this and see why it did not take the knight ..

Ivan can still do that, if Getclub doesn't ignore the pawn attack. If it
ignores it, axb6 will follow attacking the rook.

Either way, Toga II scores Ivan way more than 3 pawns ahead.

> For that one pawn move it took about two min..

2 minutes for depth 18?

> As for the dark bishop it is just sitting there in a good position ..

Sure. The pawn wall has already broken up.

> I wish i was smarter .......I am smart at some things like paying off my
> house , i do not care about the tax write off is i just want to pay it
> off.
> 32,000 $ left ....

I live in a big city where most people don't own houses.

mfg, simon .... l


                
Date: 10 Sep 2008 09:52:37
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Ivans move is B5 x A6 ...Pawn x Pawn

Ivan - 2.3

I need to study this and see why it did not take the knight ..

For that one pawn move it took about two min.. This pawn move it just
made took about 20 seconds...If i was playing i would have probably
taken the knight ..

As for the dark bishop it is just sitting there in a good position ..

If GC does not move the knight it can move to C-3 and then the knight
and rook are in his sites.

I wish i was smarter .......I am smart at some things like paying off my
house , i do not care about the tax write off is i just want to pay it
off.
32,000 $ left ....



                 
Date: 10 Sep 2008 22:24:22
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played N-f5 (Nd4-f5)

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Ne4
5. Ne5 Bd7
6. Nxd7 Qxd7
7. 0-0 a6
8. Bd3 Qd6
9. c4 e6
10. Nd2 Nxd2
11. c5 Qe7
12. Bxd2 g6
13. b4 Qh4
14. b5 Nxd4
15. bxa6 Nf5


Score: (-0.64) Loss of 1 pawn to GetClub

Saved knight to f5

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Bye
Sanny


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Date: 10 Sep 2008 22:21:38
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played N-f5 (Nd4-f5)

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Ne4
5. Ne5 Bd7
6. Nxd7 Qxd7
7. 0-0 a6
8. Bd3 Qd6
9. c4 e6
10. Nd2 Nxd2
11. c5 Qe7
12. Bxd2 g6
13. b4 Qh4
14. b5 Nxd4
15. bxa6 Nf5

Score: (-0.67) Loss of 1 pawn to GetClub

Saved Knight to f5.

I do not understand why GetClub gave knight sacrifice? and why IVAN do
not take the knight and took the pawn instead?

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Bye
Sanny


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Date: 11 Sep 2008 09:51:51
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played R-b8 (Ra8-b8) "GetClub RESIGNs"

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Ne4
5. Ne5 Bd7
6. Nxd7 Qxd7
7. 0-0 a6
8. Bd3 Qd6
9. c4 e6
10. Nd2 Nxd2
11. c5 Qe7
12. Bxd2 g6
13. b4 Qh4
14. b5 Nxd4
15. bxa6 Nf5
16. axb7 Rb8

Score: (-2.35) Loss of 2 pawn to GetClub

Played Rook to b8.

Lets GetClub Resign as it is 2 pawns down. Lets start a new game.
There was a bug in the game which was removed today. I think next game
it will play better.

Yes IVAN takes the White.

Only if you accept the GetClub Resign.

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Bye
Sanny


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Date: 11 Sep 2008 21:38:56
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
OK , ivans last move was Bishop D-2 to C-3.

I will put the white pieces back in place and start a new thread and
game...



                  
Date: 11 Sep 2008 16:37:30
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
* SAT W-7 <Sin768@webtv.net > (08:10) schrieb:

> Pawn A-6 x B-7 ....pawn takes pawn ..
>
> Ivan - 2.I
>
> Yes that pawn move that took Toga 2 two hours to find at depth I8 was
> about 2 min for Ivan.

Note that Toga II didn't find the move. It was never in the top 3 list.

> Thing is maybe the programmer saw that was best move in that position?

That's not how chess programs work.

> Still in a game your Toga 2 comes up with more strong moves on every
> move than Ivan ..

Not on every move, this move for example was quite obvious. Black's
answer of Rb8 is quite forced, too.

> Yes in a big city that it would be hard to buy even a condo .. I am
> not sure i could deal with all the people ?

That's the trick of living in big cities: You don't have to deal with
people at all.

> I live south of Seattle and work in Seattle , but i like my house and
> yard ..I am about 25 miles from work ?

Gas is getting more expensive every year.

mfg, simon .... l


                   
Date: 12 Sep 2008 00:22:39
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
* SAT W-7 <Sin768@webtv.net > (18:44) schrieb:

> Living in a city would be hard for me to do because i like my house
> and going out in my yard and my two car garage , i have a I968 RT
> Charger 440 Magnum + my 4 cylinder every day driver truck that gets
> pretty good gas mileage ..But i have to say YES gas is expensive and
> that bugs me too ..I like my back yard too and i have fresh tomatoes
> growing back there and privacy ..

Sure. I like that I can walk to the supermarket, go on my balcony, or
walk to the park.

> When my other truck broke down i had to ride the bus for 3 weeks and
> i hated that being on there with people who stink and people talking on
> their cell phones and it took 3 buses to get to work and then i work a
> lot of OT and id get off work and have to try and make it to the bus
> stop i was scared to walk around at night ..+ where i live the last bus
> here on Sun is 9.I5 PM and i was missing that bus so i was begging for
> rides home from co-workers , ..

But the transportation is probably better inside the city.

> + here buying my house is just as much if not cheaper than living in
> Seatle ..
> When my house is paid off all i need to come up with will be property
> taxes and insurance which will be about 260 $ a month ...That will be a
> big load off my shoulders from what i am paying out every month now...

I don't pay much more for renting my small flat.

> off to work .. ill i have to work OT tonight ? I hope not but i mite
> have too....

What kind of work is that?

mfg, simon .... off-topic, is your e-mail ok?


                    
Date: 11 Sep 2008 22:02:38
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
When i lived in my apartment i was on the 3'd floor , i had people below
me and above me and on each side of me and the walls were thin and the
people above me you can hear them walking sometimes and people on the
side of me and below me ..Bugged me + i did not like a few of them so
that was bad too ..
Then i had my Charger window broken and i belive it was the guy down
stairs from me but i could not prove it ..+ had the tac ripped off ..
I did not drive it every day and it is a rare car and i think some
people were jealous ..
I can take walks here too , i like the SOOS creak trail....Bike ride
too ....
But the main thing is you rent , so the owner can raise your rent
when he feels like it or when your lease runs out , or he can kick you
out too if he feels like it ..I hope he does none of that stuff to you..
But see since i am buying my house my i can sell it anytime i want
and take a big chunk of cash ...I want to live here until i die .....I
just want to pay it off so my monthly bills go way down .....
My house has doubled in the last I0 years that i have lived
here....From I00,000 to 200,000 and i owe 32,000 so i have built up a
lot of equity ..Mite even be more because houses sell in my nabber hood
for 240,000 $ .........

I am not sure where you live but if it is in the USA next time you go
to the store go to the bread section and look for OROWEAT bread.



                   
Date: 11 Sep 2008 09:44:10
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Well i was just checking to see if Sanny moved and since he has not i
have to get ready for work but i will check back when i get home.
Have another long day of work.

Toga 2 vs Ivan , your Toga would win because it would pick the better
move more often than Ivan would.

Living in a city would be hard for me to do because i like my house
and going out in my yard and my two car garage , i have a I968 RT
Charger 440 Magnum + my 4 cylinder every day driver truck that gets
pretty good gas mileage ..But i have to say YES gas is expensive and
that bugs me too ..I like my back yard too and i have fresh tomatoes
growing back there and privacy ..
When my other truck broke down i had to ride the bus for 3 weeks and
i hated that being on there with people who stink and people talking on
their cell phones and it took 3 buses to get to work and then i work a
lot of OT and id get off work and have to try and make it to the bus
stop i was scared to walk around at night ..+ where i live the last bus
here on Sun is 9.I5 PM and i was missing that bus so i was begging for
rides home from co-workers , ..

+ here buying my house is just as much if not cheaper than living in
Seatle ..
When my house is paid off all i need to come up with will be property
taxes and insurance which will be about 260 $ a month ...That will be a
big load off my shoulders from what i am paying out every month now...

off to work .. ill i have to work OT tonight ? I hope not but i mite
have too....

will look here when i get home



                    
Date: 11 Sep 2008 10:28:44
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
GetClub Resigned the game

Played R-b8 (Ra8-b8) "GetClub RESIGNs"

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Ne4
5. Ne5 Bd7
6. Nxd7 Qxd7
7. 0-0 a6
8. Bd3 Qd6
9. c4 e6
10. Nd2 Nxd2
11. c5 Qe7
12. Bxd2 g6
13. b4 Qh4
14. b5 Nxd4
15. bxa6 Nf5
16. axb7 Rb8

Score: (-2.35) Loss of 2 pawn to GetClub

Played Rook to b8.

Lets GetClub Resign as it is 2 pawns down. Lets start a new game.
There was a bug in the game which was removed today. I think next game
it will play better.

Yes IVAN takes the White.

Only if you accept the GetClub Resign.

Waiting for your move. Play whenever you are free.
If we miss this thread we can start a new thread.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html



                     
Date: 11 Sep 2008 21:39:38
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
By the way ivan had it at - I.6



                  
Date: 10 Sep 2008 23:10:54
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Pawn A-6 x B-7 ....pawn takes pawn ..

Ivan - 2.I

Yes that pawn move that took Toga 2 two hours to find at depth I8 was
about 2 min for Ivan.
Thing is maybe the programmer saw that was best move in that position ?
Still in a game your Toga 2 comes up with more strong moves on every
move than Ivan ..

Yes in a big city that it would be hard to buy even a condo .. I am
not sure i could deal with all the people ?

I live south of Seattle and work in Seattle , but i like my house and
yard ..I am about 25 miles from work ?

nite



                   
Date: 11 Sep 2008 16:19:05
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
SAT W-7 <Sin768@webtv.net > wrote:
> Yes that pawn move that took Toga 2 two hours to find at depth I8
> was about 2 min for Ivan.

Sometimes a beginner thinks of a move and it looks OK so he plays it.
Sometimes, a stronger player sees what looks like a problem with the
move but, after a lot of thought, finds out that it's not a problem
and goes ahead and plays the move. Other times, the problem really is
a problem so he or she plays something else.


Dave.

--
David Richerby Hilarious Slimy Atlas (TM): it's like
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a map of the world but it's covered
in goo and a bundle of laughs!


               
Date: 10 Sep 2008 08:44:53
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played Nxd4 (Nc6xd4)

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Ne4
5. Ne5 Bd7
6. Nxd7 Qxd7
7. 0-0 a6
8. Bd3 Qd6
9. c4 e6
10. Nd2 Nxd2
11. c5 Qe7
12. Bxd2 g6
13. b4 Qh4
14. b5 Nxd4

Score: (-0.65) Loss of 1 pawn to GetClub

Knight took your d4 pawn

The way you write is easy to understand. Sometimes I make mistake in
writing. So I write at 3 places same move So that you can see if I am
wrong.

Waiting for your move. Play whenever you are free.
If we miss this thread we can start a new thread.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


               
Date: 10 Sep 2008 07:18:21
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Ivans move is .B4 to B5 ..Like that ? pawn move...


Wow depth I8 for that pawn move , i guess ivan can make the best move
some times ..
I write my moves like that because i can get confused very easy ..I am
not that smart .

Yes the dark bishop is limited but still it is in the center and ready
to attack ..



              
Date: 10 Sep 2008 02:34:03
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
* SAT W-7 <Sin768@webtv.net > (20:54) schrieb:

> ivans move is B-2 to B-4 pawn,,,

Whoa. Up to depth 11 that move didn't show up among Toga II's top three.
But since depth 12 is at top, scoring +0.68 at depth 18.

BTW: Why do use that overly verbose move formatting? I find just »b4«
much more readable. And the use of a hyphen between the file and the
rank is quite uncommon.

mfg, simon .... l


              
Date: 09 Sep 2008 11:54:12
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
ivans move is B-2 to B-4 pawn,,,

Ivan - 0.I Still close in ivans mind..

But white has so much space to work with and GC is getting squeezed ..I
am looking at the game and i am not sure how i would attack ivan.
I think id move the bishop to G-7 and then castle that side ....Then
spend two or three moves trying to get organized ..Of course it would
depend on where ivan moves....

I almost went to the chess mall today but i have a few more important
things i need to get done.
back off line now until later..



           
Date: 09 Sep 2008 04:32:42
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Played Q-e5 (Qd6-e7)

1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Ne4
5. Ne5 Bd7
6. Nxd7 Qxd7
7. 0-0 a6
8. Bd3 Qd6
9. c4 e6
10. Nd2 Nxd2
11. c5 Qe7

Score: (-0.19) Loss to GetClub

It was a good move by IVAN. Interesting Game.

Played Queen to e7.

Waiting for your move. Play whenever you are free.
If we miss this thread we can start a new thread.

Bye
Sanny


Play Chess at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


           
Date: 09 Sep 2008 00:32:30
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Pawn C-4 to C-5 ..attacking queen

ivan - 0.2

ivan has a strong pawn wall ....



          
Date: 08 Sep 2008 22:59:56
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Knight B-I to D-2
ivan
- 0.9



         
Date: 08 Sep 2008 08:46:13
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Pawn C-2 to C-4 ...

Ivan - 0.2 .....still very close...

Have a long night tonight of work...will still move when ever i get
home..



        
Date: 07 Sep 2008 23:54:39
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Bishop B-5 to D-3

I forgot to look at the number ..i will on our next move .



       
Date: 07 Sep 2008 21:29:37
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Castle . King to G-I and Rook too F-I...

I kinda wish it would have developed anther piece before making that
move



      
Date: 07 Sep 2008 08:41:06
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Ivans move is Knight E-5 x D-7 ..Knight takes bishop.

Ivan - 0.5 ..

GC thinks it is winning and Ivan thinks it is winning...

See what i mean ivan and my other computer that i do not have anymore
like to trade Knights for Bishops...

I would almost play two moves here because i assume GC Queen takes
Knight but i will wait to make sure ..

off to work until i am done .



     
Date: 06 Sep 2008 23:02:56
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
ivans move is knight F-3 to E-5

Ivan -0.7

wow GC thinks it has that avantage ..



     
Date: 06 Sep 2008 23:06:06
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
GC is in trouble right now if ivan can see it .
Knight takes Knight , pawn takes Knight , bishop takes pawn check then
bishop takes rook..



    
Date: 06 Sep 2008 22:25:33
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Bishop F-I to B-5

Ivan - 0.I

Your on early tonight , i will try and check here a few times before i
go to bed.



   
Date: 06 Sep 2008 13:34:02
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Pawn E-2 to E-3 ...

Even game 0.0 ...

How come GC thinks it is winning ? Could that be a flaw ?



  
Date: 06 Sep 2008 08:18:24
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Ivans move is Knight G-I to F-3 ....

even game 0.0



 
Date: 06 Sep 2008 04:04:26
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
On Sep 6, 1:14=A0pm, Sin...@webtv.net (SAT W-7) wrote:
> Ivans move is D-2 to D-4 ..
>
> =A0 This will be a good game , lets see what ivan can do as white and wha=
t
> GC can do as black.
>
> We should play the next two games and let Ivan be white =A0 , i just want
> to get a feel for how it plays white since 99 % of the time ivan has
> played black vs other computers ..
>
> nite

With White definitly IVAN will have the advantage.

I am playing Easy Level. How much time will IVAN take per move?

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


  
Date: 06 Sep 2008 08:15:11
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: New Ivan vs GC game,Ivan is white for the first time.
Play the same level we have been playing .
Ivan 45 moves in I45 minutes..

GC just won , what level were you playing ? Lets do the same one...