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Date: 05 Nov 2007 16:47:11
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: November 3-4, 2007 USCF Executive Board Meeting
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[quote="mnibb"]This can probably be directed to Mike Nolan about some of the rambling conversation I heard on the web cast today. Someone during the early conversation about rating the FIDE events was talking about pricing. They were talking something about some "back of the envelope calculations" of what it costs to rate a game being about $.25 - $.30 being this being the cause for raising the fees for rating games this December. If todays ramblings are any indication of the way the EB has traditionally done business and the way this decision has been made, it is not a wonder we are having a few problems.[/quote] k Nibbelin is finally beginning to get the picture, a picture many of us have known about for some time. I had to sit through five of these board meetings, so I have experienced this. When I was on the board it was never quite so bad as this. This was because whenever the conversation strayed to far from the topic, I was willing to tell the other board members so. Also, I would let Joel Channing tell two or three of his non-funny jokes that everybody else was supposed to laugh at, but after that I would tell him to cut it out. This gave some observers the impression that I was running the meeting. Although it was bad even when I was on the board, I did manage to keep it moving. One of the low points yesterday came when Bill Goichberg suddenly decided to change the February 2-3, 2008 board meeting from Las Vegas to Los Angeles. Goichberg said that Las Vegas was objectionable because it is associated with gambling which creates a bad image for the board (but why did Goichberg insist for some time that the finals of the 2007 US Championship be held in Las Vegas?). Goichberg said that if the meeting cannot be held in California, he wants it held online. Truong protested that he cannot go to California for "certain reasons" which he declined to state but he was willing to go to any of the other 49 states. Goichberg insisted that the meeting be held in Los Angeles because he is going to be there anyway and it is not convenient for him to be anywhere else. Those of us watching from the Internet audience know why Goichberg is going to be in Los Angeles in early February. It is because that is horse-racing season in Southern California and the Santa Anita Race Track will be open. Goichberg plays the horses. Ironic is it not that Goichberg does not want to be in Las Vegas because it is associated with gambling. The horses are running at Santa Anita Race Track at that time of the year because it is too cold for the horses to race in other parts of the country. http://www.santaanita.com/news/events.php Sam Sloan
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Date: 11 Nov 2007 10:05:33
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: November 3-4, 2007 USCF Executive Board Meeting
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[quote="Harry Payne"][quote="samsloan"][quote="Harry Payne"] I am sure things have improved. And I meant no disrepect asking you. I can only think about my reaction had my bank accounts become frozen. But let us hope the issue is close to being resolved.[/quote] Why are you sure things have improved? Sam Sloan[/quote] Because Sam, there are some very capable members on the board. Of which you could have been one had you not made wild statements before you checked them out. I have no doubt you are concerned about the USCF. And felt that way very strongly. Then instead of bringing suit against those I thought you had a good case against , you rambled off bringing suit against the USCF, the State of Texas , and I can't even remember who all else. You tangent at times Sam and that hurts your credibility.IMHO[/quote] Harry, I am wondering why you feel that I need to "check out" the other members of the board. I have personally known every member of the board for more than twenty years, some for more than 40 years, with the sole exception of Joel Channing, whom I first met when he first ran for election of 2005. As far as I know, you are a newcomer who has met them only once. That was at the board meeting on May 21-22, 2007 in Stillwater, Oklahoma that you attended. Sam Sloan
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Date: 10 Nov 2007 04:16:43
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: November 3-4, 2007 USCF Executive Board Meeting
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[quote="chessoffice"] At the meeting this past weekend, we concluded more than an hour ahead of schedule. Bill Goichberg[/quote] That was because nothing got done. The major issues facing the board and the federation were ignored, with the board acting like the proverbial ostrich who, when faced with danger, sticks his head in the sand. Sam Sloan
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Date: 07 Nov 2007 08:55:16
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: November 3-4, 2007 USCF Executive Board Meeting
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[quote="ueschessmom"]True enough but I still have hope (maybe misplaced) that the USCF could take leadership on some of these issues and can help to push along some of the work that people have been doing in the field. I thought Tim Redman raised some interesting issues in his recent post about the benefits of chess for an aging population concerned with maintaining mental and physical agility.[/ quote] I hope that you will kindly recall that I raised this issue of chess for the elderly in my campaign statement, along with my campaign to greatly expand scholastic chess. I lost the election and as you could plainly see neither of these issues have been brought up by the new board. Do you recall that when I proposed to sell blocks of USCF memberships at discount rated to public schools, Bill Goichberg came onto this forum to complain that I had hijacked an existing issue. But, as you can see, I brought this up at every one of the five board meetings that I attended when I was on the board, and now that I have lost the election none of these issues have been brought up by anybody who is on the board now. Also, perhaps you may recall that there were two candidates who said that if elected they were going to develop military chess, college chess, correspondence chess, this kind of chess and that kind of chess and so on. Now that they have been elected, there has been no mention, none whatever, of these different supposed chess programs. Sam Sloan
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Date: 05 Nov 2007 11:23:57
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: November 3-4, 2007 USCF Executive Board Meeting
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I detected a change in Channing during the meeting. He was the only board member who made any reference to the "Fake Sam Sloan" matter and he did so several times. I suspect that Joel Channing is no longer in bed with Polgar and is no longer her strongest supporter on the board. He seems to have turned away from her much as Erik Anderson and Eric Moskow have done. Sam Sloan
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