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Date: 13 Jan 2006 09:26:21
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Subject: Questions about ICC
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Hello, i would like to ask how ICC find out if one uses computer
assistance
and how can also keep track of a user?
I beleive that through its interface which happens to be BlitzIn, it
somehow stores specific hardware information so even if one change
his/her ip address or even his ICC handle his still able to identify
him.
How does ICC do that? By hacking our computer?
No matter what interface you use with ICC,
if the the ICC server cant make the current interface you use to
connect to it
to relay some hardware spesific information that it wants to keep track
on what you do
then it wont let you connect to the ICC server through this
Interface(WinBoard for example)
If someone knows ow ICC keep track of us please enlight tell us.
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Date: 19 Jan 2006 06:38:32
From: xFace
Subject: Re: Questions about ICC
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Iam playins on FICS as well.
There is nothign better than free :-)
ICC tends to be I$$ :-)
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Date: 19 Jan 2006 06:38:17
From: xFace
Subject: Re: Questions about ICC
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Iam playins on FICS as well.
There is nothign better than free :-)
ICC tends to be I$$ :-)
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Date: 19 Jan 2006 03:15:43
From: Helen
Subject: Re: Questions about ICC
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no problem David :-)
Now that you know what iam talkign about please feel free to comment on
it.
And so all the others as well.
Thank you.
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Date: 19 Jan 2006 12:27:22
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Questions about ICC
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Helen <Poupoulenia@gmail.com > wrote:
> no problem David :-)
>
> Now that you know what iam talkign about please feel free to comment on
> it.
I'd love to but I don't know anything about ICC's interfaces. I play on
FICS and can only answer ICC questions if the answer is the same as it
would be for FICS. :-)
Dave.
--
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www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ like a farm animal but it's twice as
fast and covered in salt!
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Date: 18 Jan 2006 23:55:37
From: Helen
Subject: Re: Questions about ICC
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Well if you report to speedtrap tey will analyse all of your games
against that player with all known chess engines to see if the moves
your opponent made was the best lines of top rated engines.
So they not only will know that he indeeed cheated but thay are in
position to tell you what engone he used and what interface to run the
engine.
Even the number of moves he used that chess engine.
All you have to do is report him to the speedtrap team.
The question is how they do all that through their interface and at
what length.
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Date: 19 Jan 2006 01:08:26
From: Ange1o DePa1ma
Subject: Re: Questions about ICC
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<Poupoulenia@gmail.com > wrote
> Hello, i would like to ask how ICC find out if one uses computer
> assistance
> and how can also keep track of a user?
I would like to know how frequently they actually catch cheaters, computer
and otherwise. My guess is almost never. Tonight I played a guy rated in the
low 1700s and he beat me 7 in a row. His opening was something like (my
moves irrelevant) e3, f3, g3, Bg2, Ne2, 0-0, Qe1, etc. He basically crept up
the board and crushed me every game. Only a very good (or very bad) player
could enjoy playing like that. But he couldn't have been that bad. In the
only game where I was close to winning there was a 20-second pause, then he
played like crap for 3-4 moves, then another long pause (I guess his friend
had found his cigarettes and had lit one up), then he started playing great
moves again and beat me. I admit today wasn't my day on ICC. I'd dropped
about 150 points by the time I started playing him, but I wasn't playing as
badly as our little match would indicate..
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Date: 18 Jan 2006 09:36:34
From:
Subject: Re: Questions about ICC
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I was refering to the way that ICC keeps track of what a person does in
his computer while playing a game through BlitzIn.
Thay are able to detect if a window comes on foreground while Blitzin
goes to backgorund, the title of that window, the cpu, speed, ram about
ones computer.
Myu guess is that the ICC server sends queries to their propritary
chess client BliztIn or any other chess client used to connect to ICC
and then the cleints by their turn query our computers, get the answer
and tranfer it back to the ICC server.
How legal is this? And since we dotn knwo the exectubale, for example
BliztIN we cant really know what other info might BlitzIn get and
tranfer to the ICC server.
Whats your opinion?
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Date: 19 Jan 2006 10:33:04
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Questions about ICC
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<Poupoulenia@gmail.com > wrote:
> I was refering to the way that ICC keeps track of what a person does in
> his computer while playing a game through BlitzIn.
I'm sorry. I completely and utterly misread your first sentence, which
was perfectly clearly written. Please accept my apologies for this
irrelevant drivel.
Dave.
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www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ it's like a handy household tool
that's made of plastic but it's twice
as fast!
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Date: 16 Jan 2006 09:28:40
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Questions about ICC
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<Poupoulenia@gmail.com > wrote:
> Hello, i would like to ask how ICC find out if one uses computer
> assistance and how can also keep track of a user?
As I recall, type "+notify username" and you'll be told when username logs
in or out.
Dave.
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www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ like an intense beam of light but
not like you'd expect and it'll turn
your stomach!
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Date: 17 Jan 2006 08:01:23
From: Borked Pseudo Mailed
Subject: Re: Questions about ICC
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In article <mir*sNT8q@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk >
David Richerby <dav...@chiark.greenend.org.uk > wrote:
Yes i already know this, but this doesnt answer on what i have asked.
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Date: 17 Jan 2006 15:27:59
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Questions about ICC
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Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net > wrote:
> Yes i already know this, but this doesnt answer on what i have asked.
I somehow missed your comment about computer cheating but I'm still not
entirely sure what you mean by ``keep track of a user'' if +notify isn't
the answer.
Dave.
--
David Richerby Frozen Generic Composer (TM): it's
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ like a pupil of Beethoven but it's
just like all the others and frozen
in a block of ice!
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Date: 13 Jan 2006 17:30:53
From: Terry
Subject: Re: Questions about ICC
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<Poupoulenia@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1137173181.686944.258260@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Hello, i would like to ask how ICC find out if one uses computer
> assistance
> and how can also keep track of a user?
>
> I beleive that through its interface which happens to be BlitzIn, it
> somehow stores specific hardware information so even if one change
> his/her ip address or even his ICC handle his still able to identify
> him.
>
> How does ICC do that? By hacking our computer?
>
> No matter what interface you use with ICC,
> if the the ICC server cant make the current interface you use to
> connect to it
> to relay some hardware spesific information that it wants to keep track
> on what you do
> then it wont let you connect to the ICC server through this
> Interface(WinBoard for example)
>
> If someone knows ow ICC keep track of us please enlight tell us.
>
ICC installs spyware on your pc.
Regards
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