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Date: 20 Mar 2007 19:55:58
From: pascal
Subject: Scid 3.6.9 released (chess database)
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Hi,
I released Scid 3.6.9 at http://prolinux.free.fr/scid
The changes are :
- Annotation :
- when annotating a game for opening blunders, the Annotator tag is
set to "opBlunder X (side)", where X is the move number
- The engine name used for annotation is appended to the Annotator
tag and also as a comment before inserting engine's variation
- Using third mouse button will automatically add variations without
asking (entering a complex game is faster)
- EPD support :
- added a "sc_epd load" callback in tkscid.cpp
- EPD window displays the list of positions which are directly
selectable with mouse
- EPD file can be automatically annotated (the EPD tags used are :
acd, acn, ce and pv)
- Book :
- Book window position and size is saved / restored
- Added book window for auto opening at startup (menu Options - >
startup)
- several fixes in language encodings and translations, added a new
swedish translation file (thanks to Hans Eriksson)
- fixed a minor error in scid help file (thanks to Hans Eriksson)
- fixed a major (and old) bug in some translation files where procedure
names were also translated ... hence breaking some of Scid features
Pascal Georges
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Date:
From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: Scid 3.6.9 released (chess database)
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 01:12:12
From: dajava
Subject: Re: Scid 3.6.9 released (chess database)
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On 22, 4:57 pm, "Good Moves are worth BEANS!"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> "dajava" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 22, 2:29 pm, "Good Moves are worth BEANS!"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "dajava" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >>news:[email protected]...
>
> >> > On 22, 4:20 am, "Good Moves are worth BEANS!"
> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> "pascal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:[email protected]...
>
> >> >> > I used both on the same computer without any problem.
>
> >> >> What can Scid do that Chessbase 9 can't?
>
> >> >> JMR
>
> >> > SCID :
>
> >> > Tools > Analysis Engine1 -Crafty (or another engine) -Trainer
> >> > again , Analysis Engine1 -Crafty (or another engine)
>
> >> > Then , you will get two windows-one for you vs Crafty-
> >> > another for Crafty's analysis in blue letters.
>
> >> > You can cheat while palying against a chess engine this way.
> >> > I think no other chess software has this cheating mode. lol...
>
> >> That's a pretty useless "feature" and people don't buy chessbase to play
> >> against an engine. They buy it for it's database functionality and to
> >> analyze games. Fritz/Shredder/etc are for playing against.
>
> >> My question was if there was anything (significant) that SCID can do that
> >> Chessbase 9 can't.
>
> > Chessbase is a serious commercial database
> > then, you harldy can expect more features from SCID.
>
> I agree, and I didn't expect more features from SCID, but sometimes you are
> surprised and an open source or shareware program is superior to it's
> commercial competitor. I was curious if this might be the case with the
> latest version of SCID. I suppose the best way is to try it out on my own
> but I was hopeing that someone very knowledgeable of SCID could save me the
> trouble.
>
> > But, I sill would like to say SCID's analysis mode is
> > better than any other Chess softwares.
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jason Repa- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
By the way,
http://scid.sourceforge.net/index.html
(original scid, I used it)
http://prolinux.free.fr/scid/
(new SCID by Pascal)
http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/Scid/
(a work by Dave)
Be careful when you refer to Scid. :)
Otherwise, readers are confused.
One more thing,
You can find some (or many) messages in this rec.games.chess.computer
arguing that SCID is faster than Chessbase for searhing games.
But, I did not test it myself seriously.
and, surpringly I got a vaguei impression
that SCID is slower than ChessBase.
I guess tcl is an interpretor.
It can be a reason for SCID's slowness.
I am writing very casually over a cup of coffee.
So, you don't have to read my message seriously.
dajava,
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 18:22:41
From: pascal
Subject: Re: Scid 3.6.9 released (chess database)
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> One more thing,
> You can find some (or many) messages in this rec.games.chess.computer
> arguing that SCID is faster than Chessbase for searhing games.
My personal feeling is that Scid is faster, but I made no serious benchk.
> But, I did not test it myself seriously.
> and, surpringly I got a vaguei impression
> that SCID is slower than ChessBase.
>
> I guess tcl is an interpretor.
> It can be a reason for SCID's slowness.
All search functions in Scid are written in C/C++, Tcl/Tk is mainly used
for the user interface or simple functions, so Scid looks as fast as any
100% compiled/native application.
Pascal
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 09:56:30
From: Good Moves are worth BEANS!
Subject: Re: Scid 3.6.9 released (chess database)
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"dajava" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 22, 4:57 pm, "Good Moves are worth BEANS!"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "dajava" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 22, 2:29 pm, "Good Moves are worth BEANS!"
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> "dajava" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> >> > On 22, 4:20 am, "Good Moves are worth BEANS!"
>> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> "pascal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> >> >> > I used both on the same computer without any problem.
>>
>> >> >> What can Scid do that Chessbase 9 can't?
>>
>> >> >> JMR
>>
>> >> > SCID :
>>
>> >> > Tools > Analysis Engine1 -Crafty (or another engine) -Trainer
>> >> > again , Analysis Engine1 -Crafty (or another engine)
>>
>> >> > Then , you will get two windows-one for you vs Crafty-
>> >> > another for Crafty's analysis in blue letters.
>>
>> >> > You can cheat while palying against a chess engine this way.
>> >> > I think no other chess software has this cheating mode. lol...
>>
>> >> That's a pretty useless "feature" and people don't buy chessbase to
>> >> play
>> >> against an engine. They buy it for it's database functionality and to
>> >> analyze games. Fritz/Shredder/etc are for playing against.
>>
>> >> My question was if there was anything (significant) that SCID can do
>> >> that
>> >> Chessbase 9 can't.
>>
>> > Chessbase is a serious commercial database
>> > then, you harldy can expect more features from SCID.
>>
>> I agree, and I didn't expect more features from SCID, but sometimes you
>> are
>> surprised and an open source or shareware program is superior to it's
>> commercial competitor. I was curious if this might be the case with the
>> latest version of SCID. I suppose the best way is to try it out on my own
>> but I was hopeing that someone very knowledgeable of SCID could save me
>> the
>> trouble.
>>
>> > But, I sill would like to say SCID's analysis mode is
>> > better than any other Chess softwares.
>>
>> Thanks for the information.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jason Repa- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> By the way,
> http://scid.sourceforge.net/index.html
> (original scid, I used it)
>
> http://prolinux.free.fr/scid/
> (new SCID by Pascal)
>
> http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/Scid/
> (a work by Dave)
>
> Be careful when you refer to Scid. :)
> Otherwise, readers are confused.
>
> One more thing,
> You can find some (or many) messages in this rec.games.chess.computer
> arguing that SCID is faster than Chessbase for searhing games.
Well, you've peaked my curiosity enough for me to want to try it out. My
main interest is to see if my Rybka 2.3 runs any differently (perhaps
faster?) in Scid than it does in CB9.
> But, I did not test it myself seriously.
> and, surpringly I got a vaguei impression
> that SCID is slower than ChessBase.
>
> I guess tcl is an interpretor.
> It can be a reason for SCID's slowness.
>
> I am writing very casually over a cup of coffee.
> So, you don't have to read my message seriously.
>
> dajava,
Thanks!
Jason
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 18:19:36
From: pascal
Subject: Re: Scid 3.6.9 released (chess database)
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> Well, you've peaked my curiosity enough for me to want to try it out. My
> main interest is to see if my Rybka 2.3 runs any differently (perhaps
> faster?) in Scid than it does in CB9.
It should run at exactly the same speed.
Pascal
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 00:44:02
From: dajava
Subject: Re: Scid 3.6.9 released (chess database)
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On 22, 2:29 pm, "Good Moves are worth BEANS!"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> "dajava" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 22, 4:20 am, "Good Moves are worth BEANS!"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "pascal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >>news:[email protected]...
>
> >> > I used both on the same computer without any problem.
>
> >> What can Scid do that Chessbase 9 can't?
>
> >> JMR
>
> > SCID :
>
> > Tools > Analysis Engine1 -Crafty (or another engine) -Trainer
> > again , Analysis Engine1 -Crafty (or another engine)
>
> > Then , you will get two windows-one for you vs Crafty-
> > another for Crafty's analysis in blue letters.
>
> > You can cheat while palying against a chess engine this way.
> > I think no other chess software has this cheating mode. lol...
>
> That's a pretty useless "feature" and people don't buy chessbase to play
> against an engine. They buy it for it's database functionality and to
> analyze games. Fritz/Shredder/etc are for playing against.
>
> My question was if there was anything (significant) that SCID can do that
> Chessbase 9 can't.
I guess not except Analysis mode of SCID.
Chessbase is a serious commercial database
then, you harldy can expect more features from SCID.
But, I sill would like to say SCID's analysis mode is
better than any other Chess softwares.
>Calling a program "easy to use" isn't answering my
> question.
>
> JMR- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
dajava,
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 07:57:14
From: Good Moves are worth BEANS!
Subject: Re: Scid 3.6.9 released (chess database)
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"dajava" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 22, 2:29 pm, "Good Moves are worth BEANS!"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "dajava" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 22, 4:20 am, "Good Moves are worth BEANS!"
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> "pascal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> >> > I used both on the same computer without any problem.
>>
>> >> What can Scid do that Chessbase 9 can't?
>>
>> >> JMR
>>
>> > SCID :
>>
>> > Tools > Analysis Engine1 -Crafty (or another engine) -Trainer
>> > again , Analysis Engine1 -Crafty (or another engine)
>>
>> > Then , you will get two windows-one for you vs Crafty-
>> > another for Crafty's analysis in blue letters.
>>
>> > You can cheat while palying against a chess engine this way.
>> > I think no other chess software has this cheating mode. lol...
>>
>> That's a pretty useless "feature" and people don't buy chessbase to play
>> against an engine. They buy it for it's database functionality and to
>> analyze games. Fritz/Shredder/etc are for playing against.
>>
>> My question was if there was anything (significant) that SCID can do that
>> Chessbase 9 can't.
>
> Chessbase is a serious commercial database
> then, you harldy can expect more features from SCID.
I agree, and I didn't expect more features from SCID, but sometimes you are
surprised and an open source or shareware program is superior to it's
commercial competitor. I was curious if this might be the case with the
latest version of SCID. I suppose the best way is to try it out on my own
but I was hopeing that someone very knowledgeable of SCID could save me the
trouble.
> But, I sill would like to say SCID's analysis mode is
> better than any other Chess softwares.
Thanks for the information.
Regards,
Jason Repa
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 22:21:30
From: dajava
Subject: Re: Scid 3.6.9 released (chess database)
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On 22, 4:20 am, "Good Moves are worth BEANS!"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> "pascal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > I used both on the same computer without any problem.
>
> What can Scid do that Chessbase 9 can't?
>
> JMR
SCID :
Tools > Analysis Engine1 -Crafty (or another engine) -Trainer
again , Analysis Engine1 -Crafty (or another engine)
Then , you will get two windows-one for you vs Crafty-
another for Crafty's analysis in blue letters.
You can cheat while palying against a chess engine this way.
I think no other chess software has this cheating mode. lol...
For Database aspect?
Both are not easy to use.
Chessbase Assistant and jose are easy.
dajava,
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 05:29:58
From: Good Moves are worth BEANS!
Subject: Re: Scid 3.6.9 released (chess database)
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"dajava" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 22, 4:20 am, "Good Moves are worth BEANS!"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "pascal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> > I used both on the same computer without any problem.
>>
>> What can Scid do that Chessbase 9 can't?
>>
>> JMR
>
> SCID :
>
> Tools > Analysis Engine1 -Crafty (or another engine) -Trainer
> again , Analysis Engine1 -Crafty (or another engine)
>
> Then , you will get two windows-one for you vs Crafty-
> another for Crafty's analysis in blue letters.
>
> You can cheat while palying against a chess engine this way.
> I think no other chess software has this cheating mode. lol...
That's a pretty useless "feature" and people don't buy chessbase to play
against an engine. They buy it for it's database functionality and to
analyze games. Fritz/Shredder/etc are for playing against.
My question was if there was anything (significant) that SCID can do that
Chessbase 9 can't. Calling a program "easy to use" isn't answering my
question.
JMR
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 08:00:51
From: pascal
Subject: Re: Scid 3.6.9 released (chess database)
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Scid runs on Linux, Windows, MacOs, etc.
I don't think Chessbase can be used on Linux.
> My question was if there was anything (significant) that SCID can do that
> Chessbase 9 can't. Calling a program "easy to use" isn't answering my
> question.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 15:53:46
From: Good Moves are worth BEANS!
Subject: Re: Scid 3.6.9 released (chess database)
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Pascal, are there any known issues with regard to having both Chessbase 9
and Scid on the same machine?
"pascal" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I released Scid 3.6.9 at http://prolinux.free.fr/scid
>
> The changes are :
>
> - Annotation :
> - when annotating a game for opening blunders, the Annotator tag is
> set to "opBlunder X (side)", where X is the move number
> - The engine name used for annotation is appended to the Annotator tag
> and also as a comment before inserting engine's variation
> - Using third mouse button will automatically add variations without
> asking (entering a complex game is faster)
> - EPD support :
> - added a "sc_epd load" callback in tkscid.cpp
> - EPD window displays the list of positions which are directly
> selectable with mouse
> - EPD file can be automatically annotated (the EPD tags used are :
> acd, acn, ce and pv)
> - Book :
> - Book window position and size is saved / restored
> - Added book window for auto opening at startup (menu Options ->
> startup)
> - several fixes in language encodings and translations, added a new
> swedish translation file (thanks to Hans Eriksson)
> - fixed a minor error in scid help file (thanks to Hans Eriksson)
> - fixed a major (and old) bug in some translation files where procedure
> names were also translated ... hence breaking some of Scid features
>
> Pascal Georges
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 18:07:22
From: pascal
Subject: Re: Scid 3.6.9 released (chess database)
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Not to my knowledge. The only collision may be related to file
associations, but this is harmless.
I used both on the same computer without any problem.
Pascal
Good Moves are worth BEANS! a �crit :
> Pascal, are there any known issues with regard to having both Chessbase 9
> and Scid on the same machine?
>
>
>
> "pascal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I released Scid 3.6.9 at http://prolinux.free.fr/scid
>>
>> The changes are :
>>
>> - Annotation :
>> - when annotating a game for opening blunders, the Annotator tag is
>> set to "opBlunder X (side)", where X is the move number
>> - The engine name used for annotation is appended to the Annotator tag
>> and also as a comment before inserting engine's variation
>> - Using third mouse button will automatically add variations without
>> asking (entering a complex game is faster)
>> - EPD support :
>> - added a "sc_epd load" callback in tkscid.cpp
>> - EPD window displays the list of positions which are directly
>> selectable with mouse
>> - EPD file can be automatically annotated (the EPD tags used are :
>> acd, acn, ce and pv)
>> - Book :
>> - Book window position and size is saved / restored
>> - Added book window for auto opening at startup (menu Options ->
>> startup)
>> - several fixes in language encodings and translations, added a new
>> swedish translation file (thanks to Hans Eriksson)
>> - fixed a minor error in scid help file (thanks to Hans Eriksson)
>> - fixed a major (and old) bug in some translation files where procedure
>> names were also translated ... hence breaking some of Scid features
>>
>> Pascal Georges
>
>
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 19:20:24
From: Good Moves are worth BEANS!
Subject: Re: Scid 3.6.9 released (chess database)
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"pascal" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I used both on the same computer without any problem.
What can Scid do that Chessbase 9 can't?
JMR
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