Main Date: 27 Jul 2007 13:45:55 From: Subject: Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan I declare an international chess holiday to celebrate the beatdown of Sam Sloan. Everybody benefits no matter what your country. Polgar 3004 Bauer 2325 Truong 2056 Berry 2026 Jones 1774 Korenman 1648 Schultz 1580 Lux 1231 Sloan 677 >>> _ >>> /'_/) >>> ,/_ / >>> / / >>> /'_'/' '/'__'7, >>> /'/ / / /" /_\ >>> ('( /' ') >>> \ / >>> '\' _.7' >>> \ ( >>> \ \   Date: 18 Aug 2007 06:19:20 From: samsloan Subject: Re: Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Jul 30, 3:27 am, Bruce <bdra...@novia.net > wrote: > Perhaps now at last we can have theMensasystem instituted nationwide > in chess LOL :) Now you did it. You came back from the dead, you were polite for a while, and then you used the dreaded M-word. So, you have started this thing all over again.   Date: 17 Aug 2007 14:42:28 From: Old Haasie Subject: Re: Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan > > > ========================= > > > Looks like Don Schultz' days as a chess politician are over, too. > > > > Old Haasie > > > Perhaps now at last we can have the Mensa system instituted nationwide > > in chess LOL :) > > You had to say the M word, didn't you, Bruce?- Hide quoted text - =========================== Ah, yes... the Mensa Model for chess. That is what a really good chess federation should adopt. That's the way the chess railroad should be run. Show me a better idea! There is none. Old Haasie   Date: 10 Aug 2007 21:41:05 From: help bot Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 7, 7:36 am, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com > wrote: > On Aug 7, 6:27 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > He also has all these imaginary high-level correspondents. > > I just got off the phone with Federal Reserve Chairman > Ben Bernanke. He advised me that no, he wasn't going > to lower interest rates today, so don't go and buy stock > options until I give you the word. Well, it's been a tough two weeks for my old pal BB, fed chairman. The stock market's crumpling, hedgies shuttered their doors and I had to lend him several billion$ to prop things up for a while (like I will ever see that money again). Now he says he might cut interest rates in September, maybe. If this keeps up, I'm moving my ass etc to Chindia... . I called GM Fischer in Iceland to hear his view on this Rob Mitchell game: "Who the hell is Rob Mitchell?", was as far as I got before he hung up the phone in disgust. So I went back through this thread, post by post, and what do you know, I found it: > 1.e4 e6 2.c4 d5 3.d4 dxe4 4.Be3 Nf6 5.c5 Be7 6.Nc3 O-O 7.Bc4 Nc6 8.Nh3 > e5 9.d5 Bxh3 10.gxh3 Nb8 11.Qd2 Nbd7 12.O-O-O h6 13.d6 cxd6 14.Rhg1 > Nh5 15.Bxh6 Ndf6 16.Qe3 Nh7 17.Be2 N5f6 18.Bxg7 {Black resigned} 1-0 So the analysis that Rybka -- woops, I mean that IM Innes did was a tag-on to the end of this game. Apparently, the nearly-IM guy was suggesting that I analyzed this gem and "missed" some killer move, somewhere, maybe in another world where the analysis goes on past the end of the game. Now, everything is as clear as mud: the IM Innes delusion is that he/Rybka has out-analyzed the help bot, fair and square; and in a way he has, since I failed to do any analysis at all beyond pointing out some obvious opening errors. If this is the good IMs idea of "total war", then this must then be a complete victory for him/Rybka over me/Fritz 5.32. A hard-fought war, not unlike his many other such wars. Blood, guts, and electricity -- maybe he can write a book about it; a New York Times best-seller perhaps. Back in the old days if an opponent were using a computer a man might at least stand a chance. Those days are long gone; nowadays, even a complete putz can beat you with the right program, even from bad positions! Let's say you want to "test" just how tough your new silicon toy is: why not try an inferior opening, to see what happens? In my view, a program like Rybka not only will win a match at pawn odds, but it can "repair" lost positions, provided there are sufficient materials and time handy. Except against ZapChess, this program "zaps" 2700-level machines like a bolt of lightning zaps a tree. It steals pawns, and what's worse, then has the technique required to convert such a tiny advantage into a win. Now this "Rob Mitchell" character is a real mystery; he shows up at GetClub or where-ever as a complete duffer, writing postings here like a young child might. But lately he seems to have evolved into a much tougher player, and even his writing style has changed dramatically. Combine these things with the knowledge that everywhere Phillip Innes goes, so too, can be found RM, and it is very hard to make a case that they are not one and the same idiot. Not that I really care. As far as I'm concerned, if a man wants two identities so he can "talk to himself" on rgc, that's okay by me. I kind of feel sorry for the chaps, for the Mitchells and the Repas, you know what I mean? Given sufficient time, I fully expect IM Innes to "back up" his claim to greatness... at correspondence chess, that is. Playing remotely, he can fire up the world's strongest chess player when things get hairy, and this ought to make him a far better correspondence player than even 2300+ Taylor Kingston was, back before strong chess computers even existed. Heck, these days one can punch some endings into a tablebase and get *perfect* moves, and that even trumps human grandmasters. But I still say that without any human "help", Rybka can beat all the Evans ratpackers, stacked one on top of another. This commandeering of the program to score points in remote play isn't going to fool any but the most foolish. We all know that if they were to play in person, with no outside help, Sam Sloan is the man to bet on; even Larry Parr will not lend his support to the nearly- a-fake-IM, but always suggests sending SS to face off against anyone but Randy Bauer, who of course is parried by GM Evans alone. It's a case of the reality vs. the delusion. Got to run. My old pal George Bush is on the other line; says its an emergency, that the entire banking system may collapse if I don't infuse several billion $ more of my money into the system, pronto! What does he think-- I am MADE OF money? Call Bill gates or Warren Buffet, already. Or what about that Mexican fellow, Carlos Slim? he's has nearly as much as I do... . -- help bot     Date: 11 Aug 2007 13:13:42 From: Chess One Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan "help bot" <nomorechess@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1186807265.713699.297030@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 7, 7:36 am, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> On Aug 7, 6:27 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote: > I called GM Fischer in Iceland to hear his view on this Rob > Mitchell game: "Who the hell is Rob Mitchell?", was as far as > I got before he hung up the phone in disgust. > > > So I went back through this thread, post by post, and what > do you know, I found it: > >> 1.e4 e6 2.c4 d5 3.d4 dxe4 4.Be3 Nf6 5.c5 Be7 6.Nc3 O-O 7.Bc4 Nc6 8.Nh3 >> e5 9.d5 Bxh3 10.gxh3 Nb8 11.Qd2 Nbd7 12.O-O-O h6 13.d6 cxd6 14.Rhg1 >> Nh5 15.Bxh6 Ndf6 16.Qe3 Nh7 17.Be2 N5f6 18.Bxg7 {Black resigned} 1-0 > > So the analysis that Rybka -- woops, I mean that IM Innes > did was a tag-on to the end of this game. Apparently, the > nearly-IM guy was suggesting that I analyzed this gem and > "missed" some killer move, somewhere, maybe in another > world where the analysis goes on past the end of the game. Since these characters are engaging in a form of group-insanity and calling me a liar, I should inform everyone that to see a contination in the game does not require 3100 level insight, and in fact I found both moves in 5 seconds total. How they can tell what it takes to see 2 moves ahead is thereby qualified by their comments. They have no idea. Just look at the amount of crap these guys can put out to pollute a chess newsgroup, and not-discuss either this game or not-discuss an opening which they don't understand, never play, etc. No chess in their posts, just trash. And they are trashy non-players of the game, whose advice and commentary is thereby qualified! Now and again we should discuss chess in these newsgroups, that is, actual chess playing experience, otherwise invitable all we will get are these pathetic responses by people whose fixed pathologies are as evident as their lack of insight into the game. Phil Innes > Now, everything is as clear as mud: the IM Innes delusion > is that he/Rybka has out-analyzed the help bot, fair and > square; and in a way he has, since I failed to do any analysis > at all beyond pointing out some obvious opening errors. If > this is the good IMs idea of "total war", then this must then > be a complete victory for him/Rybka over me/Fritz 5.32. A > hard-fought war, not unlike his many other such wars. Blood, > guts, and electricity -- maybe he can write a book about it; a > New York Times best-seller perhaps. > > > Back in the old days if an opponent were using a computer > a man might at least stand a chance. Those days are long > gone; nowadays, even a complete putz can beat you with > the right program, even from bad positions! Let's say you > want to "test" just how tough your new silicon toy is: why > not try an inferior opening, to see what happens? In my view, > a program like Rybka not only will win a match at pawn odds, > but it can "repair" lost positions, provided there are sufficient > materials and time handy. Except against ZapChess, this > program "zaps" 2700-level machines like a bolt of lightning > zaps a tree. It steals pawns, and what's worse, then has > the technique required to convert such a tiny advantage into > a win. > > Now this "Rob Mitchell" character is a real mystery; he > shows up at GetClub or where-ever as a complete duffer, > writing postings here like a young child might. But lately > he seems to have evolved into a much tougher player, and > even his writing style has changed dramatically. Combine > these things with the knowledge that everywhere Phillip > Innes goes, so too, can be found RM, and it is very hard > to make a case that they are not one and the same idiot. > Not that I really care. As far as I'm concerned, if a man > wants two identities so he can "talk to himself" on rgc, > that's okay by me. I kind of feel sorry for the chaps, for > the Mitchells and the Repas, you know what I mean? > > Given sufficient time, I fully expect IM Innes to "back up" > his claim to greatness... at correspondence chess, that is. > Playing remotely, he can fire up the world's strongest > chess player when things get hairy, and this ought to > make him a far better correspondence player than even > 2300+ Taylor Kingston was, back before strong chess > computers even existed. Heck, these days one can > punch some endings into a tablebase and get *perfect* > moves, and that even trumps human grandmasters. > > > But I still say that without any human "help", Rybka > can beat all the Evans ratpackers, stacked one on top > of another. This commandeering of the program to score > points in remote play isn't going to fool any but the most > foolish. We all know that if they were to play in person, > with no outside help, Sam Sloan is the man to bet on; > even Larry Parr will not lend his support to the nearly- > a-fake-IM, but always suggests sending SS to face off > against anyone but Randy Bauer, who of course is > parried by GM Evans alone. It's a case of the reality vs. > the delusion. > > > Got to run. My old pal George Bush is on the other line; > says its an emergency, that the entire banking system > may collapse if I don't infuse several billion $ more of my > money into the system, pronto! What does he think-- I am > MADE OF money? Call Bill gates or Warren Buffet, > already. Or what about that Mexican fellow, Carlos Slim? > he's has nearly as much as I do... . > > > -- help bot > > > > >   Date: 10 Aug 2007 15:43:01 From: The Truth. Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan help bot wrote: > I see nearly-an-IMpostor Innes has run away to a > new thread, to "escape" my refutation of his silly > nonsense. > > > He even thinks Nxe2 is Rybka Fucken good stuff Gerald, someone actually got round to spelling poseur correct. Fucken nifty. Fuck, Con the Greek put 5 sausages in my fucken fridge. Fucken cooked 'em up in a skillet, fuck. Fucken beef! fucken ok the way I fucken cooked them. Fucken poseurs Gerald. Fuck Ne2, Fuck Rybka. Fuck poseurs. Fuck the Vicar. Fuck the Oirish. Fuck 'em.   Date: 08 Aug 2007 18:21:56 From: help bot Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 8, 6:40 am, "Chess One" <inn...@verizon.net > wrote: > What a lot of baloney from corn-bot! Whose massive commentaries on all > things are better than many a grandmaster, and now he complains that Jung > lacks context ... ;))) I see nearly-an-IMpostor Innes has run away to a new thread, to "escape" my refutation of his silly nonsense. > He even thinks Nxe2 is Rybka Of course, IM Innes has no quote to back that up! > but I saw it faster than the program could ever load... Good idea, loading your vast superior to consider its "opinion"; but remember, these programs were written such as to rely upon rote opening books, so don't just blindly accept whatever Rybka spits out as Gospel truth. In the openings and early middle game, a chess program needs to look *very* deeply in order to weed out the chaff. > How come 5 chessplayers have posted on this game, and none suggested this > counter chance for black? 1. Many posters here detest nearly-an-IMposeur Innes. 2. There is perhaps not much interest in the Dilworth line. > Now - the lesson is, while white wins, the 'opportunities' are reversed, and > its White who can go wrong. The rule is: when behind or in other > difficulties, COMPLICATE! PI Precisely! In nearly every game I play at RedHotPawn, the damned 1600s get an advantage and I have to kick it up a gear to just hang on! The 1700s, I believe, are the ones with Fritz 10, and my gears just emit loud crunching sounds before the engine stalls out and dies. :<( -- help bot     Date: 15 Aug 2007 02:36:53 From: help bot Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth On Aug 14, 8:26 am, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com > wrote: > By the way , I have already provided you with Mr. Innes' screen name > at chess world. So if you want to play him, then issue a challenge. > We are NOT the same people. I belive he would take that as a horrible > insult. I am about 5 inches shorter, five years younger and 20 lbs > heavier than Phil. Additionally, I am about 1/2 of his playing stregnth 2246: that's the number my screen shows for IM Innes. Even though I managed to navigate through the ads and get to where I could possibly challenge him, I don't think that would be fair when you consider that I am currently rated "only" 1400, while he is that high. Unless Dr. IM Innes has been using Rybka, he must have worked very hard for all those rating points, so I would prefer to wait until I get up where I belong, to say, 1450. I know that if I were a nearly-an-IM, I sure wouldn't want some putz like say, Skip Repa to show up and pressure me into a bullet match if his rating were nearly-a-thousand points lower than mine. (BTW, I am now beginning to suspect the comment about non-linearity of chess ratings was just a way to explain how it was that Dr. IM Innes was rated at "only" 2246 on ChessWorld. Freaky!) -- help bot       Date: 15 Aug 2007 14:07:26 From: Chess One Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth "help bot" <nomorechess@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1187145413.956343.117780@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 14, 8:26 am, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> By the way , I have already provided you with Mr. Innes' screen name >> at chess world. So if you want to play him, then issue a challenge. >> We are NOT the same people. I belive he would take that as a horrible >> insult. I am about 5 inches shorter, five years younger and 20 lbs >> heavier than Phil. Additionally, I am about 1/2 of his playing stregnth > > > 2246: that's the number my screen shows for IM Innes. > > Even though I managed to navigate through the ads > and get to where I could possibly challenge him, I > don't think that would be fair when you consider that > I am currently rated "only" 1400, while he is that high. > Unless Dr. IM Innes has been using Rybka, he must > have worked very hard for all those rating points, so > I would prefer to wait until I get up where I belong, to > say, 1450. You need to be about 1650 until I can score a point. Recently I defeated an 1800 and got 2 points, and lost to a 2450 [possibly Mz Fritz herself] losing 8 points, which is about to happen again ;( i tried to join a tournament where i was 200 points lower than the nearest other, and couldn't get in, nevermind get to have a go at 3000 players > (BTW, I am now beginning to suspect the comment > about non-linearity of chess ratings was just a way to > explain how it was that Dr. IM Innes was rated at > "only" 2246 on ChessWorld. Freaky!) o shut up and play! we are about to launch a couple new teams [aren't we?] maybe chess misc and chess politics [maybe i can con both randy bauer and sam sloan to take part, also 2100 grant perks] - and i think typical teams are of 6 players? there used to be a couple of masters in misc, plus a secret gm, but doesn't seem to matter what overall strength there is if people are willing to play their games, some opposing teams range 2200 to 1300. phil innes > > -- help bot > > > > > >     Date: 15 Aug 2007 01:42:24 From: help bot Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth On Aug 14, 4:46 pm, "Chess One" <inn...@verizon.net > wrote: > > I am about 5 inches shorter, > > Arrgh! Short people! It's all relative. (Once you pass 2.5 kilometers, it's just nitpicking to call someone short.) > > five years younger > > whipper snapper! > > > and 20 lbs > > heavier than Phil. > > I note that neither Larry Parr nor Marcus have admitted their own > heigh/weight, and while we Vermonters await the Marcus Flotilla, we will > have to see which way Larry Parr is going to go in the struggle. Give the man a break, will ya? It just so happens there are no truck scales in Malaysia, unlike back home in the states. > > Additionally, I am about 1/2 of his playing stregnth > > The scale is not linear, though I should be flattered if it was. More > important is the spirit of the thing, whether you win or lose, as > Shakespeare said, the play is the [what exactly did he say it was?] Every time I hear commentary to the effect that the rating scale is not linear, I am reminded of the many convincing refutations, based on hard facts. But I know nothing about the system used at ChessWorld, so maybe this time IM Innes may be right. With the USCF, for instance, some confusion has arisen out of the variable weightings, or k factors, of the different classes; but this by no means indicates a non-linear scale. All it really means is that ratings *volatility* is reduced in the higher classes; so there is less bouncing around. -- help bot (1400)     Date: 15 Aug 2007 01:30:21 From: help bot Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth On Aug 14, 8:26 am, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > You can play as many games as you like and have as many going as you > > > like. You will most likely get invited to play in a newcomers > > > tournament. > > > So you say, but my screen keeps saying things like > > "until you have been here a while and completed a > > few games, we are holding your account hostage > > unless you give us some money by buying a full > > membership", or something to that effect. > When you first start out I can win no points off of you. I Gain > nothing by winning. I like playing the Alekhine as black. I was > thrilled you chose that and not another Sicilian( which I play badly > against.) > Hopefully I will give you a better game than at RHP. Actually, my comment was directed at the 1900+ "welcomer", who may well "welcome" some easy points from weaker opponents. I am playing a Caro-Kann against him. It's an oddball line and the first thing I learned was that Black rarely wins. > By the way , I have already provided you with Mr. Innes' screen name > at chess world. So if you want to play him, then issue a challenge. You are not paying attention; I already explained that the comments stated I cannot challenge anyone except a short list of "welcomers", until after I have completed a few games. This clearly means that unless Dr. IM Innes is one of these "welcomers", I am unable to challenge him, per the site's policy. This has nothing to do with me or with IM Innes; it has only to do with the Web site's chosen policies. > We are NOT the same people. Is there a special program which allows you to "track" every post IM Innes makes, so you can jump in and reply for him and he for you? I just ask because the only other case I have seen like this was Skip Repa, who tracks his own postings and then follows up under one new identity after another. No, wait -- there was also the behavior of IM Innes as it related to his mentor, Larry Parr; Mr. Innes would follow up in every single thread, no matter what the topic, and attack all those who did not fully agree with LP's every whimsy. That was very similar, and of course, we all know that LP does not weigh only 185 pounds, so he cannot be IM Innes. (Plus, his postings come from Malaysia, not Vermont.) > I belive he would take that as a horrible > insult. I am about 5 inches shorter Oh my god! So you also claim to be nearly three kilometers tall? What do you guys eat-- HGH pills? > five years younger Hmm. Interesting that while IM Innes frequently talks about his immense height, he rarely if ever mentions his age. (Probably another shocker, like the three kilometers height.) > and 20 lbs > heavier than Phil. Additionally, I am about 1/2 of his playing stregnth Lemmesee... 2450 divided by 2 is what, 1225? That seems awfully low for a guy who miniaturizes 1600s, don't you think? So maybe IM Innes is actually closer to 3100 now, which only makes sense... . -- help bot     Date: 09 Aug 2007 11:11:53 From: Chess One Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan "help bot" <nomorechess@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1186622516.153435.94470@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > <.. > > In the openings and early middle game, a chess > program needs to look *very* deeply in order to > weed out the chaff. Corn-bot thinks Rybka is /necessary/ for this position. In fact I never used that or other program ;( >> How come 5 chessplayers have posted on this game, and none suggested this >> counter chance for black? > > 1. Many posters here detest nearly-an-IMposeur Innes. Because I can look 2 moves ahead? Okay, but I think that's something to do with them, not me, and to remain in a chess newsgroup they risk affront every time they encounter us 2-move ahead people <shrug > > 2. There is perhaps not much interest in the Dilworth line. Rob Mitchell's game was not a Dilworth. >> Now - the lesson is, while white wins, the 'opportunities' are reversed, >> and >> its White who can go wrong. The rule is: when behind or in other >> difficulties, COMPLICATE! PI > > Precisely! In nearly every game I play at RedHotPawn, > the damned 1600s get an advantage and I have to kick > it up a gear to just hang on! The 1700s, I believe, are > the ones with Fritz 10, and my gears just emit loud > crunching sounds before the engine stalls out and dies. > :<( What sad stuff. Please return on chess subjects, not resentful paranoia. Phil Innes > -- help bot > > >       Date: 09 Aug 2007 15:57:37 From: Kenneth Sloan Subject: Re: 000hse.googlegroups.com> 3291 wrote: > "help bot" <nomorechess@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1186622516.153435.94470@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > > <..> > >> In the openings and early middle game, a chess >> program needs to look *very* deeply in order to >> weed out the chaff. > > Corn-bot thinks Rybka is /necessary/ for this position. In fact I never used > that or other program ;( > >>> How come 5 chessplayers have posted on this game, and none suggested this >>> counter chance for black? >> 1. Many posters here detest nearly-an-IMposeur Innes. > > Because I can look 2 moves ahead? Certainly not. Even if true. > -- Kenneth Sloan KennethRSloan@gmail.com Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213 University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473 Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/         Date: 09 Aug 2007 21:22:38 From: Chess One Subject: Re: 000hse.googlegroups.com> "Kenneth Sloan" <KennethRSloan@gmail.com > wrote in message news:f9fv5r$nsu$2@SonOfMaze.dpo.uab.edu... > 3291 wrote: >> "help bot" <nomorechess@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1186622516.153435.94470@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >> >> <..> >> >>> In the openings and early middle game, a chess >>> program needs to look *very* deeply in order to >>> weed out the chaff. >> >> Corn-bot thinks Rybka is /necessary/ for this position. In fact I never >> used that or other program ;( >> >>>> How come 5 chessplayers have posted on this game, and none suggested >>>> this >>>> counter chance for black? >>> 1. Many posters here detest nearly-an-IMposeur Innes. >> >> Because I can look 2 moves ahead? > > Certainly not. Even if true. I see that Ken Sloan has made seperate response to the same message, using some weird system his own, and by neglecting to mention any insight of his own in to the chess. pfft!@ This is the same guy responsible [not! he says] for the debacle of a board member resigning over cheating the rating system, of which he is a functionary. He had no curiosity over that either, as was equally cryptic about what he has [not!] done to ensure there are not hoards of cheaters of that it won't happen again tomorrow. But I think he better wake up soon, or find something less exacting to make cryptic comments about. Certainly 'information sciences' is a pretty brave claim. Phil Innes >> > > > -- > Kenneth Sloan KennethRSloan@gmail.com > Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213 > University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473 > Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/         Date: 09 Aug 2007 21:17:15 From: Chess One Subject: Re: 000hse.googlegroups.com> "Kenneth Sloan" <KennethRSloan@gmail.com > wrote in message news:f9fv5r$nsu$2@SonOfMaze.dpo.uab.edu... > 3291 wrote: >> "help bot" <nomorechess@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1186622516.153435.94470@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >> >> <..> >> >>> In the openings and early middle game, a chess >>> program needs to look *very* deeply in order to >>> weed out the chaff. >> >> Corn-bot thinks Rybka is /necessary/ for this position. In fact I never >> used that or other program ;( >> >>>> How come 5 chessplayers have posted on this game, and none suggested >>>> this >>>> counter chance for black? >>> 1. Many posters here detest nearly-an-IMposeur Innes. >> >> Because I can look 2 moves ahead? > > Certainly not. Even if true. Another cryptic response from the guy who doesn't think the ratings system at USCF even needs a look, despite a board member resigning over its... lapse. Is there truly no one hereabouts who can look at this postion in chessic terms? What are these other responses about? Nothing from nothing? Phil Innes >> > > > -- > Kenneth Sloan KennethRSloan@gmail.com > Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213 > University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473 > Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/   Date: 07 Aug 2007 23:29:24 From: parrthenon@cs.com Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr BRAZIL Well, there's gratitude for ya. I had visions of living like James Mason in that fine film, Five Fingers. I would be standing on a verandah of a sumptuous villa in white dinner jacket (rather than white T-shirt), overlooking the harbor of Rio from Sugarloaf Mountain. Neil Brennan, whose tastes run to the proletarian, would be down on the beach as a Body Beautiful, being chased by the hitherto cool, utterly unseeing and unapproachable Lady from Ipanema. "The gringo, he is muy guapo," the Lady begins. The Historian, who knows that this speech from the Lady is the first recorded instance of her showing any interest in the male species, strikes a muscle builder's pose. Her bronze skin reddens into copper as gleaming as a mint-condition Lincoln penny. He chest begins to heave heavily. "You are here for Carnival, yes?" the Lady from Ipanema inquires with the unconcealed avarice of coarse desires. He smiles like Patrick Swayze and drops for 100 push-ups -- his well-oiled, perfectly defined deltoids and other oids rippling beneath the tropical Rio sun. Steam appears to rise from the white sand of the Ipanema beach. Meanwhile, high above the writhing, overheated, concupiscent Scorpios and scorpions, I smile enigmatically from my terrace while sipping on a preprandial very dry Martini. In my left hand, I hold an opened copy of my mother's translation of Publius Terentius Afer's six surviving comedies. "Terence," claims the mater, "can make no claim on originality. His is the polished comedy and meter of Menander -- Greek in style and scene, if not substance. Yet his puissant and uniquely pure Latin have assured his plays a millennial immortality." As I leaf through Volume I with the "Andria," "Eunuchus" and "Heauton Timoroumenos," I observe from afar The Historian, my fellow fugitive from justice, in amorous embrace with the L. from I. There are no extradition treaties with Brazil, and we two are safe from avenging justice. How differently, though, we spend our millions derived from the MS biking scam. The Historian indulges his senses in the tropical hothouse that is Carnival in Rio. He might as well be one of those drooling Germans like Moyzisch in the Five Fingers, lusting after the Countess Staviska. He has evidently lost all interest in the Great Debate over whether Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare. He has even been heard employing the words "bacon" and "Oxford" in a normal tone of voice. I, on the other hand, employ my millions to improve the soul through fine and delicate living. It was good that neither the USCF nor the CJA shared in our great ripoff. Then, the cold shower of reality. An ungrateful Historian, though knowing I put him off his morning caloric ablutions, now tells us that I shall not share in the residuals from charity. The Historian has adopted Stalin's philosophy that gratitude is the disease of dogs. Yours, Larry Parr The Historian wrote: > On Aug 7, 1:10 am, "parrthe...@cs.com" <parrthe...@cs.com> wrote: > > CONTRIBUTIONS ACCEPTED > > : > > By all means, contribute to Neil Brennan's > > sponsorship campaign for his bicycle riding. > > He provides a list of those who will not be > > receiving these funds, and the non-recipients include > > Phil Innes, Bill Goichberg, Donald Schultz, Rob > > Mitchell, USCF, CJA and others among the usual suspects. > > > > Please note that The Historian does not include > > his own name among those who will not be receiving > > contributed funds. Nor, for that matter, is my name > > mentioned as a non-recipient. > > > > Since I have been cited by Mr. Brennan as the cause > > of his determination to lose weight (readers may > > recall that I took away his morning appetite) I think > > it only fair that cash residuals be paid to yours truly. > > > > Yours, Larry Parr > > Larry, I've tried to avoid rising to your bait, but let me point out > that even a person with your 'challenges' could easily discover that > the National MS Society is the beneficiary of my fund-raising. From > www.nationalmssociety.org: > > Thousands of miles of road, all over the country, await our > enthusiastic 2007 MS Bike Ride participants. Find a ride near you or > plan a series of cycling events all summer long-there are about 100 > tours covering 48 states to choose from. Last year 100,000 > participants raised $67 million for the fight against MS. The 2007 MS > Bike Ride is your chance to do something big: get on the road to a > cure!   Date: 07 Aug 2007 19:56:13 From: help bot Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 7, 3:29 pm, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com > wrote: > > Perhaps you have not fairly represented the thoughts > > of Dr. Jung. > They are not my representations. They are directly from his writings. As no direct quotations were given, it is obvious that you were attempting to summarize; in order for your post to contain that which is direct, you need to give exact quotes or else a link to them. Even then, you have not addressed my idea: that perhaps your summary is not a fair representation of Dr. Jung's own ideas. This was demon.strated with the evil Dr. Blair, who systematically would pick and choose that which he personally wished to present, while selectively omitting that which did not fit his agenda; these omissions, while largely invisible, nevertheless can play a decisive role -- much like nuclear radiation. > The issue would be with him and not with me. Um, no. The issue is with *you*, because you are responsible for what *you* have written here. Own your own words, kid. > if you disagree. You > simply asked about "Jungian envy" and I provided an answer. The reason I asked *you*, instead of doing a Google search on "Jungian envy", is that it was *you* who wrote those words here, not Dr. Jung. Frankly, I imagined that there was a good chance this phrase was simply invented out of thin air. It is hard to imagine a dor of shrinkology who would simply deride introverts en masse, while proclaiming that extroverts are all well-grounded in reality. That seems rather daft when you consider, for instance, that politicians are mainly extroverted, and many of them are completely out in la-la land. Forcing my way back toward chess, I might present Gary Kasparov as an extrovert who is lost in a maze of delusion -- just the opposite of reality-grounding. In sum, I find it most unlikely that Dr. Jung was THAT mixed up; far more likely that you have simply selectively taken bits and pieces of his work for your own personal agenda, which in this case was to characterize those you dislike as introverted, and then knock over this straw man with your Jungian spear. This is not dissimilar to my having introduced Mr. Sloan as an example of your "extravert", knowing full well that you strongly dislike him; this was a deliberate ploy, aimed at not merely ridiculing your whole conception, but pointing out in the most painful way possible the obvious flaws it contains. -- help bot   Date: 07 Aug 2007 19:31:49 From: help bot Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 7, 9:03 am, David Richerby <dav...@chiark.greenend.org.uk > wrote: > >>> Have you tried starting at the top of Pike's Peak? > > >> And riding in which direction? > > > Um, downward > > By the way, if you don't know how to get to Pike's Peak, it's very > easy: just go to the North Pole and head south. This is akin to one of those trick questions; you can't just head South, because you could end up anywhere except back at the North Pole. Pike's Peak is an isolated mountain, somewhere out West. There is a paved road all the way to the top, so if it weren't for the steepness of the descent, one could perhaps go from 100 kilometers to 100 miles with the help of gravity. The heavier you are, the more this added effect would seem to help. People like IM Innes, OTOH, would probably fall off a cliff due to the many hairpin turns and switchbacks; it's not easy for a man three kilometers tall to ride a bike, you know. -- help bot   Date: 07 Aug 2007 13:29:53 From: Rob Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 7, 1:16 am, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com > wrote: > On Aug 6, 11:19 pm, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Please define "Jungian envy complex". I've heard of > > > complexes where certain unmentionable parts of the > > > human body are envied, but the jung? > > > The first attribute introverts notice and envy, obviously, is that > > extraverts are so sociable, so relaxed in groups and with strangers. > > > The second attribute is that they seem to have an abundance of > > positive emotions--gaiety, exuberance, enthusiasm. They are so eager > > to meet the world, to find something in common with others and to > > celebrate it. > > > The third comes from Jung's definition of I-E. Extraverts seem to have > > a direct connection to people and things, while introverts tend to > > withdraw and impose their subjectivity onto everything. Extraverts are > > always in the know, while introverts have their intuitions, but are > > these based as much on actual facts? > > > So, fourth, given that they seem to be more grounded in reality, > > naturally extraverts seem more effective, decisive, and spontaneous. > > They plunge right in and get things done without having to think it > > over. > > This reminds me a lot of Sam Sloan, undoubtedly an > "extravert"; Mr. Sloan posts "news items" without any > regard for their merit, plunging right in and getting it > done. He is also exuberant and enthusiastic. > > But where I don't see any logic is in these comments > regarding "extraverts" being "more grounded in reality"; > many of the sociable, extroverted people I know get > their daily dose of "reality" from watching TV; they > simply regurgitate what they have been told by the > mass media to think, not being much good at doing > that for themselves. > > > The third and fourth qualities especially may not apply to E-HSPs-- > > remember these four are simply some of what's attributed to extraverts > > and what most introverts notice and envy. And who would not want such > > traits? Well, the antidote to envy, of course, is considering what > > introverts would be willing to give up in order to be extraverted. R > > I think this analysis is a bit myopic. A typical introvert > is not introverted because he chooses to be, nor is an > extrovert that way because he has made any conscious > decision to become extroverted. In fact, it smacks of > envy, due to the irrational need to deride introverts in > favor of the extroverts. > > Perhaps you have not fairly represented the thoughts > of Dr. Jung. > > -- help bot- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - They are not my representations. They are directly from his writings. The issue would be with him and not with me. if you disagree. You simply asked about "Jungian envy" and I provided an answer. Rob   Date: 07 Aug 2007 05:36:15 From: help bot Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 7, 6:27 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com > wrote: > He also has all these imaginary high-level correspondents. I just got off the phone with Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke. He advised me that no, he wasn't going to lower interest rates today, so don't go and buy stock options until I give you the word. Then I called GM Kasparov. He says I should give up chess because, and I quote, I am "a Rook odds player, and always will be". (Who cares what this guy thinks, anyhow?) > > > Incidentally, I can ride 100 kilometers, not 100 miles...yet. > > > Have you tried starting at the top of Pike's Peak? > > And riding in which direction? Um, downward, so that gravity works in your own favor. If you install a battery and use the excess speed generated during the descent to charge it, you can later use that charge to reach the 100 mile mark by running a small electric motor on the bike. The real trick is in pedaling to the top before you start the race... . -- help bot     Date: 14 Aug 2007 06:26:01 From: Rob Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth On Aug 13, 9:28 pm, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com > wrote: > On Aug 13, 9:05 am, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Help bot is now signed up on Chessworld as: "helpbot" > > > You can play as many games as you like and have as many going as you > > like. You will most likely get invited to play in a newcomers > > tournament. > > So you say, but my screen keeps saying things like > "until you have been here a while and completed a > few games, we are holding your account hostage > unless you give us some money by buying a full > membership", or something to that effect. > > > We have two games started. Anyone who is signed up at chessworld my > > view the game and comment on it directly on the game page as we play. > > For the record, somehow I got confused and sent > my reply to another player who had challenged me. > So instead of whatever opening we are playing now, > I actually intended what I am playing against *him*. > I had no idea that there even was a third game until > my screen showed I have moved. This other guy is > one of the "welcomers", and at 1900+ I think he is > going to "welcome" my easy rating points... hahaha! > > I started off at 1400 on this site, whereas at the > RedHotPawn site you start at what, 1200?, and at > GetClub everyone started at 1000. > > > The game numbers are: 4001284 and 4001281. Bot is defending as black > > with an Alekhines defense, > > You are saying that I have no attack? What about your > e-pawn -- I have it on the run already! > > > Marozky variation. Real chess, no > > computers... blunders by me I think up myself! > > Marozky was never world champion, but he came > close with his wins over Boguljewbof and Anon. > > -- help bot When you first start out I can win no points off of you. I Gain nothing by winning. I like playing the Alekhine as black. I was thrilled you chose that and not another Sicilian( which I play badly against.) Hopefully I will give you a better game than at RHP. By the way , I have already provided you with Mr. Innes' screen name at chess world. So if you want to play him, then issue a challenge. We are NOT the same people. I belive he would take that as a horrible insult. I am about 5 inches shorter, five years younger and 20 lbs heavier than Phil. Additionally, I am about 1/2 of his playing stregnth       Date: 14 Aug 2007 21:46:32 From: Chess One Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth "Rob" <robmtchl@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1187097961.554200.268410@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > By the way , I have already provided you with Mr. Innes' screen name > at chess world. So if you want to play him, then issue a challenge. > We are NOT the same people. I belive he would take that as a horrible > insult. I am about 5 inches shorter, Arrgh! Short people! > five years younger whipper snapper! > and 20 lbs > heavier than Phil. I note that neither Larry Parr nor Marcus have admitted their own heigh/weight, and while we Vermonters await the Marcus Flotilla, we will have to see which way Larry Parr is going to go in the struggle. I hear stories about Malaysian nuns wanting to join the Vermont Navy, but maybe these are only stories? False stoires? And the short-nuns [as they are called here] will join in with the enemy? > Additionally, I am about 1/2 of his playing stregnth The scale is not linear, though I should be flattered if it was. More important is the spirit of the thing, whether you win or lose, as Shakespeare said, the play is the [what exactly did he say it was?] Anyway, good on Greg-bog if he has joined in, since that's the most of it, the rest, as that dude said about the Koran; after "God is Merciful", is commentary. And God knows! We have had enough of them bananas. Cordially, Phil     Date: 13 Aug 2007 19:28:57 From: help bot Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth On Aug 13, 9:05 am, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com > wrote: > Help bot is now signed up on Chessworld as: "helpbot" > > You can play as many games as you like and have as many going as you > like. You will most likely get invited to play in a newcomers > tournament. So you say, but my screen keeps saying things like "until you have been here a while and completed a few games, we are holding your account hostage unless you give us some money by buying a full membership", or something to that effect. > We have two games started. Anyone who is signed up at chessworld my > view the game and comment on it directly on the game page as we play. For the record, somehow I got confused and sent my reply to another player who had challenged me. So instead of whatever opening we are playing now, I actually intended what I am playing against *him*. I had no idea that there even was a third game until my screen showed I have moved. This other guy is one of the "welcomers", and at 1900+ I think he is going to "welcome" my easy rating points... hahaha! I started off at 1400 on this site, whereas at the RedHotPawn site you start at what, 1200?, and at GetClub everyone started at 1000. > The game numbers are: 4001284 and 4001281. Bot is defending as black > with an Alekhines defense, You are saying that I have no attack? What about your e-pawn -- I have it on the run already! > Marozky variation. Real chess, no > computers... blunders by me I think up myself! Marozky was never world champion, but he came close with his wins over Boguljewbof and Anon. -- help bot     Date: 08 Aug 2007 11:40:02 From: Chess One Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan What a lot of baloney from corn-bot! Whose massive commentaries on all things are better than many a grandmaster, and now he complains that Jung lacks context ... ;))) He even thinks Nxe2 is Rybka, but I saw it faster than the program could ever load... How come 5 chessplayers have posted on this game, and none suggested this counter chance for black? :: 18. ... Nxe2 + 19 Nxe2 [Qxe2 loses, but worth the offer!] 19... Bg4 and white still has to win it. eg:: 20. Bxf8 Kxf8 Phil Innes --------- Now - the lesson is, while white wins, the 'opportunities' are reversed, and its White who can go wrong. The rule is: when behind or in other difficulties, COMPLICATE! PI     Date: 07 Aug 2007 15:03:07 From: David Richerby Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan help bot <nomorechess@hotmail.com > wrote: > The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Incidentally, I can ride 100 kilometers, not 100 miles...yet. >>> >>> Have you tried starting at the top of Pike's Peak? >> >> And riding in which direction? > > Um, downward By the way, if you don't know how to get to Pike's Peak, it's very easy: just go to the North Pole and head south. Dave. -- David Richerby Miniature Confusing Chair (TM): it's www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ like a chair but you can't understand it and you can hold in it your hand!   Date: 07 Aug 2007 04:27:39 From: The Historian Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 6, 7:44 pm, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com > wrote: > On Aug 6, 3:55 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Please don't draw me into a comparison with the Nearly an IM 2450. > > I see. You are jealous because he has an imaginary > title and a much higher imaginary rating than your real > one. Apples to oranges, if you ask me. He also has all these imaginary high-level correspondents. > > Incidentally, I can ride 100 kilometers, not 100 miles...yet. > > Have you tried starting at the top of Pike's Peak? And riding in which direction? > > While on the subject of accomplishment, I'm riding in the > > MS City to Shore 150 in New Jersey on September 29, and I'm looking > > for sponsors. I want to raise 1000 dollars for MS by the time of the > > ride. Please visit my personal pledge page: > >http://www.nationalmssociety.org/site/TR?px=3025548&pg=personal&fr_id... > > to make a contribution. No money will go to USCF, CJA, Bill Goichberg, > > Chessdon, Innes/Mitchell, Trollgar, etc. > > That's odd. An event where no money goes to BG? > I suppose there is a first time for everything... . LOL!   Date: 07 Aug 2007 04:11:20 From: The Historian Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr On Aug 7, 1:10 am, "parrthe...@cs.com" <parrthe...@cs.com > wrote: > CONTRIBUTIONS ACCEPTED > : > By all means, contribute to Neil Brennan's > sponsorship campaign for his bicycle riding. > He provides a list of those who will not be > receiving these funds, and the non-recipients include > Phil Innes, Bill Goichberg, Donald Schultz, Rob > Mitchell, USCF, CJA and others among the usual suspects. > > Please note that The Historian does not include > his own name among those who will not be receiving > contributed funds. Nor, for that matter, is my name > mentioned as a non-recipient. > > Since I have been cited by Mr. Brennan as the cause > of his determination to lose weight (readers may > recall that I took away his morning appetite) I think > it only fair that cash residuals be paid to yours truly. > > Yours, Larry Parr Larry, I've tried to avoid rising to your bait, but let me point out that even a person with your 'challenges' could easily discover that the National MS Society is the beneficiary of my fund-raising. From www.nationalmssociety.org: Thousands of miles of road, all over the country, await our enthusiastic 2007 MS Bike Ride participants. Find a ride near you or plan a series of cycling events all summer long-there are about 100 tours covering 48 states to choose from. Last year 100,000 participants raised $67 million for the fight against MS. The 2007 MS Bike Ride is your chance to do something big: get on the road to a cure!   Date: 06 Aug 2007 23:16:01 From: help bot Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 6, 11:19 pm, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com > wrote: > > Please define "Jungian envy complex". I've heard of > > complexes where certain unmentionable parts of the > > human body are envied, but the jung? > > The first attribute introverts notice and envy, obviously, is that > extraverts are so sociable, so relaxed in groups and with strangers. > > The second attribute is that they seem to have an abundance of > positive emotions--gaiety, exuberance, enthusiasm. They are so eager > to meet the world, to find something in common with others and to > celebrate it. > > The third comes from Jung's definition of I-E. Extraverts seem to have > a direct connection to people and things, while introverts tend to > withdraw and impose their subjectivity onto everything. Extraverts are > always in the know, while introverts have their intuitions, but are > these based as much on actual facts? > > So, fourth, given that they seem to be more grounded in reality, > naturally extraverts seem more effective, decisive, and spontaneous. > They plunge right in and get things done without having to think it > over. This reminds me a lot of Sam Sloan, undoubtedly an "extravert"; Mr. Sloan posts "news items" without any regard for their merit, plunging right in and getting it done. He is also exuberant and enthusiastic. But where I don't see any logic is in these comments regarding "extraverts" being "more grounded in reality"; many of the sociable, extroverted people I know get their daily dose of "reality" from watching TV; they simply regurgitate what they have been told by the mass media to think, not being much good at doing that for themselves. > The third and fourth qualities especially may not apply to E-HSPs-- > remember these four are simply some of what's attributed to extraverts > and what most introverts notice and envy. And who would not want such > traits? Well, the antidote to envy, of course, is considering what > introverts would be willing to give up in order to be extraverted. R I think this analysis is a bit myopic. A typical introvert is not introverted because he chooses to be, nor is an extrovert that way because he has made any conscious decision to become extroverted. In fact, it smacks of envy, due to the irrational need to deride introverts in favor of the extroverts. Perhaps you have not fairly represented the thoughts of Dr. Jung. -- help bot   Date: 06 Aug 2007 23:10:10 From: parrthenon@cs.com Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr CONTRIBUTIONS ACCEPTED : By all means, contribute to Neil Brennan's sponsorship campaign for his bicycle riding. He provides a list of those who will not be receiving these funds, and the non-recipients include Phil Innes, Bill Goichberg, Donald Schultz, Rob Mitchell, USCF, CJA and others among the usual suspects. Please note that The Historian does not include his own name among those who will not be receiving contributed funds. Nor, for that matter, is my name mentioned as a non-recipient. Since I have been cited by Mr. Brennan as the cause of his determination to lose weight (readers may recall that I took away his morning appetite) I think it only fair that cash residuals be paid to yours truly. Yours, Larry Parr Chess One wrote: > "help bot" <nomorechess@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1186272245.598125.89760@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > On Aug 4, 9:45 am, "Chess One" <inn...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>TRUTH OR DARE<<<<< I fling a gauntlet at Mr. Parr! > >>>>>>TRUTH OR DARE<<<<< > >> > >> I am 6' 3" ; 185 lbs > >> [in metric I think that is approx 3 kilometers] > > > > > > Um, is IM Innes really attempting to claim he is > > three kilometers tall? > > hey! you have to show-before-you-tell in this thread, otherwise its no fun > > maybe someone will challenge you, but i used up my 2 > > [ though for the record, i am actually a 3 litres short of 3k] > > > Even Paul Bunyan was not THAT tall. Goliath > > was reputedly six cubits and a span tall, which > > is nowhere near three kilometers. > > but he was no Celt - and as ani ful no, Celts are all about giants, > troll-stompin giants! > > i have an old map somewhere of all the giant-named places in England circa > 1500. they are called 'Saetans', and only 2 now remain, residually as > 'Sets', Somerset and Dorset. > > > And besides, > > by my calculations no structure, let alone animal, > > could possibly be three kilometers tall and yet > > weigh only 185 pounds; it/he would collapse of > > it's own flimsiness the moment a one mph wind > > hit it. > > bamboo bend baby! > > > The only thing I can think of would be where > > the three kilometers tall person was say, on a > > tiny moon, and thus his weight was affected by > > its much, much weaker gravity. That must be it; > > IM Innes is probably from one of the smaller > > moons of Jupiter or Saturn, and so his stated > > weight does not what one would expect of a three > > kilometers tall creature. > > its true, i need binoculars to do up metric shoelaces, but not with the > regular kind > > > At any rate, very tall people breath thinner air, > > and as a result they tend to have difficulty in > > getting the proper amount of oxygen to the brain. > > This certainly explains a lot when it comes to > > IM Innes' postings. > > short people breath ground-smog, and that is what clogs many an almost-C > player's brain > > > OTOH, they can see over things, like say, the > > car ahead of them, to determine what is causing > > the traffic problem. And best of all, by merely > > shaking their hair to remove dandruff flakes or > > accumulated dust, they can "seed the clouds" > > at a hospital fundraiser i took a black plate, and did 'dandruff readings' > and successfully predicted something for the head of medicine, so to speak. > > > and thus create rain in dry times! That's why I > > think very tall people like IM Innes should be > > accepted, not feared or tied up like Gulliver was > > by the Lilliputians. > > Lilly-putatives? > > > Sometimes it seems that very tall people don't > > always get the respect they deserve; witness > > Kareem Abdul Jabbar in the movie, Airplane. > > yada yada > > when and if you get your own challenge we'll see how honest you are! > > scientifically short fat people are well-known to tell more lies than > handsome tall athletes [like me] and are not very good chessplayers either > > > Trying to play the plane's co-pilot, even the very > > youngest of his co-actors harried him throughout > > the making of that comedy, making comments > > caught on film regarding his laziness on the > > basketball court and so forth. It's not easy > > being really tall, you know; always having to > > duck when entering through doorways; not > > fitting in small cars, and frequently being hit > > in the shins by accident... . > > yada yada, since you are not under oath, this observations are neither here > nor there. patience-bot!@ surely either Marcus or Larry will challenge you? > > Phil Innes > > > > > -- help bot > > > > > >   Date: 06 Aug 2007 23:01:10 From: help bot Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 6, 11:16 pm, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com > wrote: > [White "robmtchl"] > [Black "Fredrik71"] > [Result "1-0"] > [Termination "Black resigned"] > [WhiteElo "1515"] > [BlackElo "1692"] > [Mode "ICS"] > [DateLastMove "2007.8.6"] > [Board "3961885"] > > 1.e4 e6 2.c4 d5 3.d4 dxe4 4.Be3 Nf6 5.c5 Be7 6.Nc3 O-O 7.Bc4 Nc6 8.Nh3 > e5 9.d5 Bxh3 10.gxh3 Nb8 11.Qd2 Nbd7 12.O-O-O h6 13.d6 cxd6 14.Rhg1 > Nh5 15.Bxh6 Ndf6 16.Qe3 Nh7 17.Be2 N5f6 18.Bxg7 {Black resigned} 1-0 Hmm. It looks like you can't watch the news on TV and play chess at the same time. Where I play, the 1600s are about six classes stronger than this guy. In fact, I have taken to using the "analysis board" far more frequently than I would like. In one game, my opponent had an *obvious* attack on my King but just moved a Rook to cover an irrelevant Rook pawn, letting me escape! As usual, my fabu-riffic technique will likely demolish this guy now that I am no longer "beaten like a carrot". -- help bot   Date: 06 Aug 2007 21:19:13 From: Rob Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 6, 7:52 pm, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com > wrote: > On Aug 6, 10:03 am, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Why do you continue to attack me, unprovoked. do you suffer from a > > Jungian envy complex? > > Please define "Jungian envy complex". I've heard of > complexes where certain unmentionable parts of the > human body are envied, but the jung? > The first attribute introverts notice and envy, obviously, is that extraverts are so sociable, so relaxed in groups and with strangers. The second attribute is that they seem to have an abundance of positive emotions--gaiety, exuberance, enthusiasm. They are so eager to meet the world, to find something in common with others and to celebrate it. The third comes from Jung's definition of I-E. Extraverts seem to have a direct connection to people and things, while introverts tend to withdraw and impose their subjectivity onto everything. Extraverts are always in the know, while introverts have their intuitions, but are these based as much on actual facts? So, fourth, given that they seem to be more grounded in reality, naturally extraverts seem more effective, decisive, and spontaneous. They plunge right in and get things done without having to think it over. The third and fourth qualities especially may not apply to E-HSPs-- remember these four are simply some of what's attributed to extraverts and what most introverts notice and envy. And who would not want such traits? Well, the antidote to envy, of course, is considering what introverts would be willing to give up in order to be extraverted. R   Date: 06 Aug 2007 21:16:33 From: Rob Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 6, 7:58 pm, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com > wrote: > On Aug 6, 1:38 pm, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Ah kin sing lyke an albatross during matin' season and mye brain was > > hal-removed ta provide tha power fur Rybka. > > Half-brained thinking. Rybka can beat all you Evans > ratpackers stacked one on top of the other (presumably, > with Larry Parr on the bottom and three-kilometers tall > IM Innes on top). > > > AN now I ammah 'alf wit. > > Still ah kin wup Sloan inna game o chess so long as I do gatta looka > > him or smell hym. > > I'll believe that when I see it. Mr. Sloan plays a > lot of garbage openings, but his results speak for > themselves. He actually has the gumption to post > his games here, including the losses. Compare > and contrast that to faking the nearly-an-IM title! > LOL > > -- help bot [Event "www.ChessWorld.net server game"] [Site "www.ChessWorld.net "] [Date "2007.7.31"] [Round "NA"] [White "robmtchl"] [Black "Fredrik71"] [Result "1-0"] [Termination "Black resigned"] [WhiteElo "1515"] [BlackElo "1692"] [Mode "ICS"] [DateLastMove "2007.8.6"] [Board "3961885"] 1.e4 e6 2.c4 d5 3.d4 dxe4 4.Be3 Nf6 5.c5 Be7 6.Nc3 O-O 7.Bc4 Nc6 8.Nh3 e5 9.d5 Bxh3 10.gxh3 Nb8 11.Qd2 Nbd7 12.O-O-O h6 13.d6 cxd6 14.Rhg1 Nh5 15.Bxh6 Ndf6 16.Qe3 Nh7 17.Be2 N5f6 18.Bxg7 {Black resigned} 1-0   Date: 06 Aug 2007 17:58:20 From: help bot Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 6, 1:38 pm, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com > wrote: > Ah kin sing lyke an albatross during matin' season and mye brain was > hal-removed ta provide tha power fur Rybka. Half-brained thinking. Rybka can beat all you Evans ratpackers stacked one on top of the other (presumably, with Larry Parr on the bottom and three-kilometers tall IM Innes on top). > AN now I ammah 'alf wit. > Still ah kin wup Sloan inna game o chess so long as I do gatta looka > him or smell hym. I'll believe that when I see it. Mr. Sloan plays a lot of garbage openings, but his results speak for themselves. He actually has the gumption to post his games here, including the losses. Compare and contrast that to faking the nearly-an-IM title! LOL -- help bot   Date: 06 Aug 2007 17:52:04 From: help bot Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 6, 10:03 am, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com > wrote: > Why do you continue to attack me, unprovoked. do you suffer from a > Jungian envy complex? Please define "Jungian envy complex". I've heard of complexes where certain unmentionable parts of the human body are envied, but the jung? Dr. Fine might have known what this is, but he went mad after I began poking holes in his endgame book's (BCE) analysis by using tablebases while pretending to be a total patzer. In fact, everyone agreed I was very convincing as a patzer, which I say is the result of my great acting skill but which critics attributed to me not needing to act... . -- help bot   Date: 06 Aug 2007 17:44:37 From: help bot Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 6, 3:55 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com > wrote: > Please don't draw me into a comparison with the Nearly an IM 2450. I see. You are jealous because he has an imaginary title and a much higher imaginary rating than your real one. Apples to oranges, if you ask me. > Incidentally, I can ride 100 kilometers, not 100 miles...yet. Have you tried starting at the top of Pike's Peak? > While on the subject of accomplishment, I'm riding in the > MS City to Shore 150 in New Jersey on September 29, and I'm looking > for sponsors. I want to raise 1000 dollars for MS by the time of the > ride. Please visit my personal pledge page: > http://www.nationalmssociety.org/site/TR?px=3025548&pg=personal&fr_id... > to make a contribution. No money will go to USCF, CJA, Bill Goichberg, > Chessdon, Innes/Mitchell, Trollgar, etc. That's odd. An event where no money goes to BG? I suppose there is a first time for everything... . -- help bot     Date: 13 Aug 2007 07:05:48 From: Rob Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth On Aug 12, 10:55 pm, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com > wrote: > On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Okay, I will go have a look and if it is free, I will > > > > issue a challenge to tobmtchl. I think it is a good > > > > idea to have a pseudonym for your games where > > > > you don't use Rybka; that way, its 3100 rating > > > > will not be pummeled like a watermelon. > > > > I registered at chessworld as "helpbot" (no space > > > because that is a forbidden character), but they > > > have some odd restrictions which will make it > > > difficult for me to challenge anyone. Maybe you > > > can challenge me. > > LOL > > Yes chessworld is free. I just saw my typo... it "robmtchl" > > Oh, so now you say it is "robmtchl"? (This is starting to > remind me of the many non-matches of Skippy Repa. ;>D) > > As a new recruit, the screen says I can match anyone I > want, so long as they are on the short list of "welcomers". > I think maybe this is a gimmick to get people to pay for > a "full" membership, like at RedHotPawn where you are > limited to six games and must click-through ads during > play. > > -- help bot Help bot is now signed up on Chessworld as: "helpbot" You can play as many games as you like and have as many going as you like. You will most likely get invited to play in a newcomers tournament. We have two games started. Anyone who is signed up at chessworld my view the game and comment on it directly on the game page as we play. The game numbers are: 4001284 and 4001281. Bot is defending as black with an Alekhines defense, Marozky variation. Real chess, no computers... blunders by me I think up myself! Rob     Date: 12 Aug 2007 20:55:19 From: help bot Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > Okay, I will go have a look and if it is free, I will > > > issue a challenge to tobmtchl. I think it is a good > > > idea to have a pseudonym for your games where > > > you don't use Rybka; that way, its 3100 rating > > > will not be pummeled like a watermelon. > > > I registered at chessworld as "helpbot" (no space > > because that is a forbidden character), but they > > have some odd restrictions which will make it > > difficult for me to challenge anyone. Maybe you > > can challenge me. > LOL > Yes chessworld is free. I just saw my typo... it "robmtchl" Oh, so now you say it is "robmtchl"? (This is starting to remind me of the many non-matches of Skippy Repa. ; >D) As a new recruit, the screen says I can match anyone I want, so long as they are on the short list of "welcomers". I think maybe this is a gimmick to get people to pay for a "full" membership, like at RedHotPawn where you are limited to six games and must click-through ads during play. -- help bot     Date: 12 Aug 2007 17:49:12 From: Rob Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com > wrote: > On Aug 12, 3:42 am, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 12, 3:06 am, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Most of RGCP plays on a > > > > team there so you can be sure it will be watched. > > > > Holy cow! RGCP has a chess team? > > > > > I play there under tobmtchl. > > > > Okay, I will go have a look and if it is free, I will > > > issue a challenge to tobmtchl. I think it is a good > > > idea to have a pseudonym for your games where > > > you don't use Rybka; that way, its 3100 rating > > > will not be pummeled like a watermelon. > > > I registered at chessworld as "helpbot" (no space > > because that is a forbidden character), but they > > have some odd restrictions which will make it > > difficult for me to challenge anyone. Maybe you > > can challenge me. > > > At RedHotPawn, the cutoff between those who > > are tough players and those who blunder pieces > > and pawns seems to be somewhere in the 1700 > > area; below 1700, I usually win, but above that > > point, something always goes amiss. > > > -- help bot > > LOL > Yes chessworld is free. I just saw my typo... it "robmtchl" helpbot is now signed up at chessworld.net as "helpbot"   Date: 06 Aug 2007 11:38:32 From: Rob Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 6, 11:06 am, "Chess One" <inn...@verizon.net > wrote: > >> While on the subject of accomplishment, I'm riding in the > >> MS City to Shore 150 in New Jersey on September 29, and I'm looking > >> for sponsors. I want to raise 1000 dollars for MS by the time of the > >> ride. Please visit my personal pledge > >> page:http://www.nationalmssociety.org/site/TR?px=3025548&pg=personal&fr_id... > >> to make a contribution. No money will go to USCF, CJA, Bill Goichberg, > >> Chessdon, Innes/Mitchell, Trollgar, etc. > > > Listen Neil. > > Why do you continue to attack me, unprovoked. do you suffer from a > > Jungian envy complex? > > I am happy for you on your weight loss and commend your efforts. I am > > in no mood to tolerate this. Back off! > > Rob > > Oy! You gotta speak yor weight, and height [in fathoms or even stacked > 6-packs] to write in here. Neil is much better off on his bike where his > charming personality can with radiant into the countryside or wilt the > flowers he rides by. > > You wanna take the challenge Mr. White? I see that cowardy-pants Mr. Parr is > slow to answer, and Marcus is still figuring out if he should send the > gunboats up the Connecticut River to take on the Vermont Navy [2 kayaks and > a raft made out of old maple-syrup cans]. > > Phil Aye! AH aham ase wyde as ah 'alf ah rack o' pork an as tall as "tattoo" frum 'Fantasy Isalnd' tymes 2.5. Ah kin sing lyke an albatross during matin' season and mye brain was hal-removed ta provide tha power fur Rybka. AN now I ammah 'alf wit. Still ah kin wup Sloan inna game o chess so long as I do gatta looka him or smell hym.   Date: 06 Aug 2007 08:03:09 From: Rob Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 6, 3:55 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com > wrote: > On Aug 5, 10:58 pm, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > On Aug 5, 7:12 am, "Chess One" <inn...@verizon.net> wrote: > > Now you take Neil Brennan: there's a real athlete > > for you. Bikes 100 miles at one clip, can throw a > > shot or put a discuss twenty meters or more. And > > don't forget sumo-wrestling! Talk is cheap, IM Innes. > > Let's see how you do up against the competition. > > Please don't draw me into a comparison with the Nearly an IM 2450. > Incidentally, I can ride 100 kilometers, not 100 miles...yet. > > While on the subject of accomplishment, I'm riding in the > MS City to Shore 150 in New Jersey on September 29, and I'm looking > for sponsors. I want to raise 1000 dollars for MS by the time of the > ride. Please visit my personal pledge page:http://www.nationalmssociety.org/site/TR?px=3025548&pg=personal&fr_id... > to make a contribution. No money will go to USCF, CJA, Bill Goichberg, > Chessdon, Innes/Mitchell, Trollgar, etc. Listen Neil. Why do you continue to attack me, unprovoked. do you suffer from a Jungian envy complex? I am happy for you on your weight loss and commend your efforts. I am in no mood to tolerate this. Back off! Rob     Date: 06 Aug 2007 16:06:47 From: Chess One Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan >> While on the subject of accomplishment, I'm riding in the >> MS City to Shore 150 in New Jersey on September 29, and I'm looking >> for sponsors. I want to raise 1000 dollars for MS by the time of the >> ride. Please visit my personal pledge >> page:http://www.nationalmssociety.org/site/TR?px=3025548&pg=personal&fr_id... >> to make a contribution. No money will go to USCF, CJA, Bill Goichberg, >> Chessdon, Innes/Mitchell, Trollgar, etc. > > Listen Neil. > Why do you continue to attack me, unprovoked. do you suffer from a > Jungian envy complex? > I am happy for you on your weight loss and commend your efforts. I am > in no mood to tolerate this. Back off! > Rob Oy! You gotta speak yor weight, and height [in fathoms or even stacked 6-packs] to write in here. Neil is much better off on his bike where his charming personality can with radiant into the countryside or wilt the flowers he rides by. You wanna take the challenge Mr. White? I see that cowardy-pants Mr. Parr is slow to answer, and Marcus is still figuring out if he should send the gunboats up the Connecticut River to take on the Vermont Navy [2 kayaks and a raft made out of old maple-syrup cans]. Phil   Date: 06 Aug 2007 01:55:21 From: The Historian Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 5, 10:58 pm, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com > wrote: > On Aug 5, 7:12 am, "Chess One" <inn...@verizon.net> wrote: > Now you take Neil Brennan: there's a real athlete > for you. Bikes 100 miles at one clip, can throw a > shot or put a discuss twenty meters or more. And > don't forget sumo-wrestling! Talk is cheap, IM Innes. > Let's see how you do up against the competition. Please don't draw me into a comparison with the Nearly an IM 2450. Incidentally, I can ride 100 kilometers, not 100 miles...yet. While on the subject of accomplishment, I'm riding in the MS City to Shore 150 in New Jersey on September 29, and I'm looking for sponsors. I want to raise 1000 dollars for MS by the time of the ride. Please visit my personal pledge page: http://www.nationalmssociety.org/site/TR?px=3025548&pg=personal&fr_id... to make a contribution. No money will go to USCF, CJA, Bill Goichberg, Chessdon, Innes/Mitchell, Trollgar, etc.   Date: 05 Aug 2007 20:58:54 From: help bot Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 5, 7:12 am, "Chess One" <inn...@verizon.net > wrote: > i have an old map somewhere of all the giant-named places in England circa > 1500. they are called 'Saetans', and only 2 now remain, residually as > 'Sets', Somerset and Dorset. This makes sense; Roman mythology had the Giants killed or eaten by their successors, the gods. Now stir in a cup or two of Christianity, and you get satans who represent giants. > > And besides, > > by my calculations no structure, let alone animal, > > could possibly be three kilometers tall and yet > > weigh only 185 pounds; it/he would collapse of > > it's own flimsiness the moment a one mph wind > > hit it. > > bamboo bend baby! Ah, bamboo! But to reach three kilometers at just 185 pounds, I calculate the shoot would need to be thinner than the hair on Rob Mitchell's head. As everyone knows, the taller a bamboo shoot grows, the bigger around it gets; it's a structural strength thing -- you wood-n't understand. > > At any rate, very tall people breath thinner air, > > and as a result they tend to have difficulty in > > getting the proper amount of oxygen to the brain. > > This certainly explains a lot when it comes to > > IM Innes' postings. > > short people breath ground-smog, and that is what clogs many an almost-C > player's brain Good point. I meant to write "breathe", of course. Those who live up in the mountains breathe less smog, cleaner air. > when and if you get your own challenge we'll see how honest you are! How will you "see" that? I think what you must mean is that you will just assume that whatever I might say is a lie, to fit your preconceived ideas. > scientifically short fat people are well-known to tell more lies than > handsome tall athletes [like me] Athlete's who are three kilometer's tall but weigh only 185 pounds? Hmm... high jump, pole vault, high hurdles, but wait! How can you walk or jump over anything if your scrawny legs crumble? Bah. Now you take Neil Brennan: there's a real athlete for you. Bikes 100 miles at one clip, can throw a shot or put a discuss twenty meters or more. And don't forget sumo-wrestling! Talk is cheap, IM Innes. Let's see how you do up against the competition. -- help bot     Date: 15 Aug 2007 01:03:51 From: help bot Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth On Aug 14, 5:40 am, "Chess One" <inn...@verizon.net > wrote: > > Just for the record, here is the actual (not imaginary) > > USCF rating for Phillip Rob-Mitchell Innes: 2044. His > > quick chess rating (2005) is a tad lower, but it is still > > provisional so it cannot be based on very many games. > > Look you - get a few things straight. You are obsessing as usual about other > people, and obsessionally putting them down with whatever facts This is progress! Delusionals often have great difficulty in recognizing "facts", but here one can see that the choice of this word in relation to the official USCF ratings, which actually exists in reality, is clearly a step forward for the nearly-an-IM 2450. Looking forward to further sessions, where we can perhaps make strides in the direction of reality, and away from those nasty delusions of grandeur. -- doc bot     Date: 12 Aug 2007 14:33:15 From: Rob Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth On Aug 12, 3:42 am, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com > wrote: > On Aug 12, 3:06 am, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Most of RGCP plays on a > > > team there so you can be sure it will be watched. > > > Holy cow! RGCP has a chess team? > > > > I play there under tobmtchl. > > > Okay, I will go have a look and if it is free, I will > > issue a challenge to tobmtchl. I think it is a good > > idea to have a pseudonym for your games where > > you don't use Rybka; that way, its 3100 rating > > will not be pummeled like a watermelon. > > I registered at chessworld as "helpbot" (no space > because that is a forbidden character), but they > have some odd restrictions which will make it > difficult for me to challenge anyone. Maybe you > can challenge me. > > At RedHotPawn, the cutoff between those who > are tough players and those who blunder pieces > and pawns seems to be somewhere in the 1700 > area; below 1700, I usually win, but above that > point, something always goes amiss. > > -- help bot LOL Yes chessworld is free. I just saw my typo... it "robmtchl"     Date: 12 Aug 2007 01:42:06 From: help bot Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth On Aug 12, 3:06 am, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com > wrote: > > Most of RGCP plays on a > > team there so you can be sure it will be watched. > > Holy cow! RGCP has a chess team? > > > I play there under tobmtchl. > > Okay, I will go have a look and if it is free, I will > issue a challenge to tobmtchl. I think it is a good > idea to have a pseudonym for your games where > you don't use Rybka; that way, its 3100 rating > will not be pummeled like a watermelon. I registered at chessworld as "helpbot" (no space because that is a forbidden character), but they have some odd restrictions which will make it difficult for me to challenge anyone. Maybe you can challenge me. At RedHotPawn, the cutoff between those who are tough players and those who blunder pieces and pawns seems to be somewhere in the 1700 area; below 1700, I usually win, but above that point, something always goes amiss. -- help bot     Date: 08 Aug 2007 22:43:52 From: help bot Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 8, 11:19 pm, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com > wrote: > > It's true that I don't know precisely what Dr. > > Jung wrote about envy, > > Thats all you need to say. Look, kid: next time you are playing around on company time, try to at least *identify* the author you are plagiarizing; for instance, if you are copping stuff from Dr. Jung, find a reference which actually quotes him verbatim. Good luck with your online correspondence degree program. LOL -- help bot   Date: 04 Aug 2007 17:04:05 From: help bot Subject: Re: A Gauntlet for Mr. Parr, was Chessplayers Beatdown Sam Sloan On Aug 4, 9:45 am, "Chess One" <inn...@verizon.net > wrote: >>>>>>TRUTH OR DARE<<<<< I fling a gauntlet at Mr. Parr! >>>>>TRUTH OR DARE<<<<< > > I am 6' 3" ; 185 lbs > [in metric I think that is approx 3 kilometers] Um, is IM Innes really attempting to claim he is three kilometers tall? Even Paul Bunyan was not THAT tall. Goliath was reputedly six cubits and a span tall, which is nowhere near three kilometers. And besides, by my calculations no structure, let alone animal, could possibly be three kilometers tall and yet weigh only 185 pounds; it/he would collapse of it's own flimsiness the moment a one mph wind hit it. The only thing I can think of would be where the three kilometers tall person was say, on a tiny moon, and thus his weight was affected by its much, much weaker gravity. That must be it; IM Innes is probably from one of the smaller moons of Jupiter or Saturn, and so his stated weight does not what one would expect of a three kilometers tall creature. At any rate, very tall people breath thinner air, and as a result they tend to have difficulty in getting the proper amount of oxygen to the brain. This certainly explains a lot when it comes to IM Innes' postings. OTOH, they can see over things, like say, the car ahead of them, to determine what is causing the traffic problem. And best of all, by merely shaking their hair to remove dandruff flakes or accumulated dust, they can "seed the clouds" and thus create rain in dry times! That's why I think very tall people like IM Innes should be accepted, not feared or tied up like Gulliver was by the Lilliputians. Sometimes it seems that very tall people don't always get the respect they deserve; witness Kareem Abdul Jabbar in the movie, Airplane. Trying to play the plane's co-pilot, even the very youngest of his co-actors harried him throughout the making of that comedy, making comments caught on film regarding his laziness on the basketball court and so forth. It's not easy being really tall, you know; always having to duck when entering through doorways; not fitting in small cars, and frequently being hit in the shins by accident... . -- help bot     Date: 13 Aug 2007 19:13:29 From: help bot Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth On Aug 12, 8:04 am, "Chess One" <inn...@verizon.net > wrote: > >> I have also played anyone else here who > >> wanted to. > > > More lies; Sam Sloan challenged the nearly-an- > > insane IM to play, and he just hid behind his chess > > program, insisting they only play remotely. > > I am not interested in making *special* arrangements for Sam Sloan, even if > his ego now has its own zip-code! As I understand it, Mr. Sloan lives and plays in a state called New York, which is within easy walking distance of Vermont for a man who claims to be three kilometers tall. It's simple, really: just enter the same tournament and lose half your games -- you'll meet up on about board thirty or so. The real obstacle is probably fear; fear that if he were to lose to a Damiano's or the Grob, Mr. Sloan would post the game for the whole world to see (and ridicule). We understand... everything to lose... nothing to gain. > He can play in the open, fair and square, just like everyone else. As for > cheating - who here thinks you ain't really paranoid? You are obsessed with > the subject - and seem to /really/ think that anyone playing stronger than > you does so by unfair means. How pathetic! The obtuse nearly-a-delusional-IM wants to believe that I think only computers can beat me, but this is far from the truth. What I find "interesting" is that players who have ratings as low as 1700 can play like a GM, and I don't mean for just a few moves or only in certain positions, but for an entire game (I don't resign easily). Generally speaking, GMs don't have ratings that low; not even when they are drunk. (Don't take my word for it, ask GM DeFirmian.) Just for the record, here is the actual (not imaginary) USCF rating for Phillip Rob-Mitchell Innes: 2044. His quick chess rating (2005) is a tad lower, but it is still provisional so it cannot be based on very many games. Now, as I understand it, if head honco Evans ratpacker leader Larry Parr (a man who always claims to have "insider information") would rather back Sam Sloan, who BTW is rated 1955, over his most loyal supporter, you gotta wonder "why"? My guess is that the insiders knew all along that IM Innes has been blustering and lying about his nearly-strength, whereas Sam Sloan is the real deal: a man who can back mere words with ACTION. This is also consistent with the facts, like the fact that SS seems eager to deflate the IM Innes hot air balloon, and the fact that IM Innes consistently hides behind his computer whenever challenged. Don't get me wrong: a USCF Expert is no weak player! But it is hardly the same thing as a nearly-an-IM, with a rating of "2450", now is it? Another oddity was what happened on the GetClub Web site: when I came along, the computer's various ratings had already been beaten down from the starting point of 1000, the main benefactor being Taylor Kingston. So the fact that I was able to eventually surpass his rating seems odd, until you consider the fact that he was "protecting" his 50 game record by switching identities. In spite of many, many changes which at times made Sanny's program much more dangerous and at other times made it easier than ever to beat, nobody ever came close to catching me until I was unable to play at all due to battery drain problems. What this tells me is that a) people got fed up with this site and with Sanny and b) those who came here to brag about some easy victory or other were not able to consistently win, since my rating was frozen like a cucumber and nobody ever passed me! Just ask yourself this one question: if the program was THAT easy to beat, then why would a "2300+" even contemplate taking steps to artificially protect his record? It makes no sense. Anybody playing from home on a plugged-in computer could easily keep games going while doing other things, so I was actually at a huge disadvantage on that site. Just recently, old Sam Sloan posted a bunch of his games from the World Open, but where was our nearly-an-IM with all that big money floating around? At home probably, hiding behind his computer, as always. Hahahaha! -- help bot       Date: 14 Aug 2007 10:40:26 From: Chess One Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth "help bot" <nomorechess@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1187057609.267401.203260@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > Just for the record, here is the actual (not imaginary) > USCF rating for Phillip Rob-Mitchell Innes: 2044. His > quick chess rating (2005) is a tad lower, but it is still > provisional so it cannot be based on very many games. Look you - get a few things straight. You are obsessing as usual about other people, and obsessionally putting them down with whatever facts of convenience you can find. The invitation is to you, or Sloan, or other people who prognoticate, to play on the same basis as everyone else here - and words are not substitute. You are not *special* people unless you insist on it ;) Neither, as far as I can see, is anyone else so hung-up on winning or losing. If you play chess you will experience both, and maybe if you don't you will only talk about your fears? I don't care what you think about 2 provisional ratings I achieved. Why not mention the 2199 rating I held? Or the 1500 one after I re-started chess after 20+years? Ker-ist! Look at this guy's paranoid rant! He has now joined an on-line cc group, with a rating so low I wouldn't earn a point if I won a game. When he has beefed his game up he will be worth playing, with or without his Fritz. I am currently losing 2 games to a 2450 player, at par with 2300's, and scoring 100% against 1800s. Maybe bog-Kennedy and I will meet when he'd worth playing? Maybe. Phil Innes > Now, as I understand it, if head honco Evans ratpacker > leader Larry Parr (a man who always claims to have > "insider information") would rather back Sam Sloan, > who BTW is rated 1955, over his most loyal supporter, > you gotta wonder "why"? My guess is that the insiders > knew all along that IM Innes has been blustering and > lying about his nearly-strength, whereas Sam Sloan is > the real deal: a man who can back mere words with > ACTION. This is also consistent with the facts, like the > fact that SS seems eager to deflate the IM Innes hot air > balloon, and the fact that IM Innes consistently hides > behind his computer whenever challenged. > > Don't get me wrong: a USCF Expert is no weak player! > But it is hardly the same thing as a nearly-an-IM, with a > rating of "2450", now is it? > > Another oddity was what happened on the GetClub > Web site: when I came along, the computer's various > ratings had already been beaten down from the starting > point of 1000, the main benefactor being Taylor Kingston. > So the fact that I was able to eventually surpass his > rating seems odd, until you consider the fact that he was > "protecting" his 50 game record by switching identities. > In spite of many, many changes which at times made > Sanny's program much more dangerous and at other > times made it easier than ever to beat, nobody ever > came close to catching me until I was unable to play > at all due to battery drain problems. > > What this tells me is that a) people got fed up with > this site and with Sanny and b) those who came here > to brag about some easy victory or other were not able > to consistently win, since my rating was frozen like a > cucumber and nobody ever passed me! Just ask > yourself this one question: if the program was THAT > easy to beat, then why would a "2300+" even > contemplate taking steps to artificially protect his > record? It makes no sense. Anybody playing from > home on a plugged-in computer could easily keep > games going while doing other things, so I was > actually at a huge disadvantage on that site. > > Just recently, old Sam Sloan posted a bunch of > his games from the World Open, but where was our > nearly-an-IM with all that big money floating around? > At home probably, hiding behind his computer, as > always. Hahahaha! > > > -- help bot > > > > >     Date: 12 Aug 2007 01:06:18 From: help bot Subject: Re: The game was not a Dilworth On Aug 11, 11:43 pm, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > PS: I believe 3000+ rated players like IM Rynnes > > > will be unable to challenge me as I might have a > > > rating limit set; just let me know and I will change > > > it to enable your good friend IM Innesbka to match > > > me. > > It is difficult to play you bot. You only take one game at a time What do you mean, I only take one game at a time? I have played at the limit of six games, but now I am too busy to do that when my opponents are beating me like a carrot. (Check my results: several losses against 1700 players.) > which doesn't allow anyone to issue a challenge. I played you on RHP > so it is only fair you play me at chessworld. Is Chessworld free? > Most of RGCP plays on a > team there so you can be sure it will be watched. Holy cow! RGCP has a chess team? > I play there under tobmtchl. Okay, I will go have a look and if it is free, I will issue a challenge to tobmtchl. I think it is a good idea to have a pseudonym for your games where you don't use Rybka; that way, its 3100 rating will not be pummeled like a watermelon. -- help bot