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> The following happened in a rapidplay yesterday. > > Its white to move, white offers a draw. Black says well make your move and I > will think over your draw offer. White makes his move. Black thinks for a > few minutes then says "ok I will accept the draw". White now says the draw > is no longer on offer because I've moved. > You may want to have a look at the FIDE Laws of Chess (http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=EE101): 9.1.a "A player wishing to offer a draw shall do so after having made a move on the chessboard and before stopping his clock and starting the opponent's clock. An offer at any other time during play is still valid, but Article 12.5 must be considered. No conditions can be attached to the offer. In both cases the offer cannot be withdrawn and remains valid until the opponent accepts it, rejects it orally, rejects it by touching a piece with the intention of moving or capturing it, or the game is concluded in some other way." The point is that (speaking about your example) White's draw offer is valid, until Black has moved or accepted or rejected. On the other hand, White is well advised for next time to offer the draw along wright after his move, not while thinking about his move. > The arbiter said white had to accept the draw having offered it. On top of > that Whites friend came along and said he could have played his move and > said as he played it "I withdraw my draw offer" The arbiter was right and White's friend was wrong. > So what is the position about offering draws and changing your mind? You can change your mind, but you cannot withdraw a valid draw offer. ;-) Hope this helps, Christoph. |
"Neil Coward" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:[email protected]... > The following happened in a rapidplay yesterday. > > Its white to move, white offers a draw. Black says well make your move and I > will think over your draw offer. White makes his move. Black thinks for a > few minutes then says "ok I will accept the draw". White now says the draw > is no longer on offer because I've moved. > > The arbiter said white had to accept the draw having offered it. On top of > that Whites friend came along and said he could have played his move and > said as he played it "I withdraw my draw offer" > > So what is the position about offering draws and changing your mind? > Supplementing Christoph's answer, it is accepted and normal practice for Black to respond as he did in the incident you describe: "Show me your move." A player who is inclined to accept the improperly time draw offer may see by the offeror's move that he has a new opportunity, and decide to proceed with the game. |
<[email protected] > wrote: >So what is the position about offering draws and changing your mind? The proper thing to do is to make the move, offer the draw, and then punch your clock. The opponent is right in wanting to see the move. Once offered, the draw offer can't be withdrawn. The opponent either accepts it or rejects it. If he makes a move, that rejects it. Once rejected, it has to be offered again. ------------------------------------- Replace you know what by "j" to email. |
> The following happened in a rapidplay yesterday. > > Its white to move, white offers a draw. Black says well make your move > and I will think over your draw offer. White makes his move. Black > thinks for a few minutes then says "ok I will accept the draw". White > now says the draw is no longer on offer because I've moved. > > The arbiter said white had to accept the draw having offered it. On > top of that Whites friend came along and said he could have played his > move and said as he played it "I withdraw my draw offer" > > So what is the position about offering draws and changing your mind? White has to make his move, _then_ offer his draw, and following that punch his clock. Black declines the offer by saying so or by moving a piece. The arbiter was right. This game was a correct draw. -- CeeBee "I am not a crook" |