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Date: 10 Dec 2007 06:24:46
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Subject: Fischer-Spassky 1992 (Game 1)
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Date: 13 Dec 2007 19:14:32
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Fischer-Spassky 1992 (Game 1)
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On Dec 13, 6:36 pm, "David Kane" <[email protected] > wrote:
> >> > According to the article, in 1992 Bobby Fischer was willing
> >> > to play without the unfair advantage he requested for the
> >> > 1972 match; it says that if they had tied 9-9, the match
> >> > would be declared drawn and the prize money shared
> >> > equally. I guess that's a self-mate... .
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> >> They say people "mellow" with age. I guess that applies to Bobby as
> >> well??
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> > All the propagandists agreed that this was a matter
> > of principle, so no mellowing with age could have the
> > slightest affect. In fact, as we saw with the battle
> > between GMs Lasker and Capablanca, only the allure
> > of money could break the spell.
>
> A more apt description is that Fischer's propagandists
AFAIK, Bobby Fischer hired no propagandists,
although there were plenty of propagandists who
were quick to jump at the chance to defend his
every whim, for their own reasons.
> portrayed the issue as matter of principle. The reality
> is that Fischer wouldn't have played Karpov under
> *any* conditions, no matter how favorable.
Idunno. It looked as though BF tried very hard
to get out of playing Boris Spassky, but failed in
the end when even the match rules were tossed
out on his behalf.
> From Fischer's point of view, he had everything
> to lose by playing and nothing to gain.
That's mostly true; yet did not Jose Capablanca
manage to take the title without the loss of a single
game? Did not champions like GMs Steinitz,
Lasker, and Botvinnik hold the title more than just
one "cycle"? Surely then, BF had room for some
gain. Besides, at only 2780, there were many
more FIDE rating points out there for the taking;
at GetClub, Zebediah has driven one level down to
a ridiculously low 400+ rating; why could not BF
attempt to push all his rivals below 2700, 2690, or
even 2680, by beating them over and over? Look
at what Gary Kasparov managed to achieve in that
realm.
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Date: 13 Dec 2007 12:11:00
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Fischer-Spassky 1992 (Game 1)
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On Dec 12, 8:21 am, David Richerby <[email protected] >
wrote:
> help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
> > According to the article, in 1992 Bobby Fischer was willing to play
> > without the unfair advantage he requested for the 1972 match; it
> > says that if they had tied 9-9, the match would be declared drawn
> > and the prize money shared equally.
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> (You mean the 1975 match.)
I stand corrected. (That's the second time, LB;
I know you're out there keeping track.)
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Date: 13 Dec 2007 12:09:38
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Fischer-Spassky 1992 (Game 1)
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On Dec 12, 8:08 am, [email protected] wrote:
> > According to the article, in 1992 Bobby Fischer was willing
> > to play without the unfair advantage he requested for the
> > 1972 match; it says that if they had tied 9-9, the match
> > would be declared drawn and the prize money shared
> > equally. I guess that's a self-mate... .
> They say people "mellow" with age. I guess that applies to Bobby as
> well??
All the propagandists agreed that this was a matter
of principle, so no mellowing with age could have the
slightest affect. In fact, as we saw with the battle
between GMs Lasker and Capablanca, only the allure
of money could break the spell.
Besides, Bobby Fischer has not mellowed with age;
he is as sour and toxic as ever. In 1992, the first we
heard out of BF was him spitting upon an executive
order from President Bush at a press conference. In
September of 2001, he was the same old "mellow"
fellow, going on the air to applaud the 9/11 attacks,
tell us that African Americans should be sent back to
Africa, evil Whites to Europe, and presumably, the Red
man raised from the dead and given back his homeland
(this last part entails even greater problems than all the
others combined, unless cloning the dead is legalized).
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Date: 13 Dec 2007 15:36:32
From: David Kane
Subject: Re: Fischer-Spassky 1992 (Game 1)
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"help bot" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:9e67583f-bedf-4766-a508-76e1754e65d0@a35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 12, 8:08 am, [email protected] wrote:
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>> > According to the article, in 1992 Bobby Fischer was willing
>> > to play without the unfair advantage he requested for the
>> > 1972 match; it says that if they had tied 9-9, the match
>> > would be declared drawn and the prize money shared
>> > equally. I guess that's a self-mate... .
>
>> They say people "mellow" with age. I guess that applies to Bobby as
>> well??
>
> All the propagandists agreed that this was a matter
> of principle, so no mellowing with age could have the
> slightest affect. In fact, as we saw with the battle
> between GMs Lasker and Capablanca, only the allure
> of money could break the spell.
A more apt description is that Fischer's propagandists
portrayed the issue as matter of principle. The reality
is that Fischer wouldn't have played Karpov under
*any* conditions, no matter how favorable.
From Fischer's point of view, he had everything
to lose by playing and nothing to gain.
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Date: 12 Dec 2007 05:08:58
From:
Subject: Re: Fischer-Spassky 1992 (Game 1)
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On Dec 11, 8:35 pm, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Dec 10, 9:24 am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >http://www.rookhouse.com/blog/
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> According to the article, in 1992 Bobby Fischer was willing
> to play without the unfair advantage he requested for the
> 1972 match; it says that if they had tied 9-9, the match
> would be declared drawn and the prize money shared
> equally. I guess that's a self-mate... .
>
> -- help bot
They say people "mellow" with age. I guess that applies to Bobby as
well??
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Date: 11 Dec 2007 19:45:52
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Fischer-Spassky 1992 (Game 1)
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Date: 11 Dec 2007 17:35:50
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Fischer-Spassky 1992 (Game 1)
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On Dec 10, 9:24 am, [email protected] wrote:
> http://www.rookhouse.com/blog/
According to the article, in 1992 Bobby Fischer was willing
to play without the unfair advantage he requested for the
1972 match; it says that if they had tied 9-9, the match
would be declared drawn and the prize money shared
equally. I guess that's a self-mate... .
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Date: 12 Dec 2007 13:21:27
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Fischer-Spassky 1992 (Game 1)
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help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> According to the article, in 1992 Bobby Fischer was willing to play
> without the unfair advantage he requested for the 1972 match; it
> says that if they had tied 9-9, the match would be declared drawn
> and the prize money shared equally.
(You mean the 1975 match.)
Dave.
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