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Date: 07 Dec 2007 07:24:52
From: Chess One
Subject: Great Game by young Polish WGM
Taken from the current First-Saturday norm tournament in Budapest -
organisers enthusiastically recommend it to the chess public:-

(1) Rajlich ,I (2411) - Bui ,V (2461) [A80]

First Saturday GM 2007 Dec (6), 06.12.2007



1.d4 f5 2.Bg5 c6 3.Nd2 g6 4.e3 Bg7 5.c3 d5 6.Ne2 Nf6 7.h4 h6 8.Bxf6 Bxf6
9.Nf4 Rg8 10.Bd3 e6 11.Nf3 g5 12.hxg5 hxg5 13.Rh7 g4 14.Kd2 Qd6 15.Nh5 Qf8
16.Ne5 Nd7 17.Rf7 Qh6 18.Nxf6+ Nxf6 19.Qb3 Nd7 20.Qb4 Qh4 21.Rh1 Qxf2+
22.Kc1 c5 23.Qa4 Qxg2 24.Rhh7 1-0

//Phil Innes for Laszlo Nagy & Miklos Orso






 
Date: 08 Dec 2007 09:14:22
From: Eric Hallsworth
Subject: Re: Great Game by young Polish WGM
In article <[email protected] >, Chess One
<[email protected] > writes
>
>"Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Dec 7, 4:24 am, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Taken from the current First-Saturday norm tournament in Budapest -
>>> organisers enthusiastically recommend it to the chess public:-
>>>
>>> (1) Rajlich ,I (2411) - Bui ,V (2461) [A80]
>>>
>>> First Saturday GM 2007 Dec (6), 06.12.2007
>>>
>>> 1.d4 f5 2.Bg5 c6 3.Nd2 g6 4.e3 Bg7 5.c3 d5 6.Ne2 Nf6 7.h4 h6 8.Bxf6 Bxf6
>>> 9.Nf4 Rg8 10.Bd3 e6 11.Nf3 g5 12.hxg5 hxg5 13.Rh7 g4 14.Kd2 Qd6 15.Nh5
>>> Qf8
>>> 16.Ne5 Nd7 17.Rf7 Qh6 18.Nxf6+ Nxf6 19.Qb3 Nd7 20.Qb4 Qh4 21.Rh1 Qxf2+
>>> 22.Kc1 c5 23.Qa4 Qxg2 24.Rhh7 1-0
>>>
>>> //Phil Innes for Laszlo Nagy & Miklos Orso
>>
>> Wow!!! Thank you, Phil.
>>
>> Look at the final position--black has only queen active.
>>
>> It's such a quiet, simple and complete game,
>
>Yes it is - and all 3 of those are difficult to achieve. I don't know much
>about the young lady

I believe she is the wife of Vasik Rajlich, the programmer of Rybka

>, but if the other pole <g> was here I bet Jz could tell
>us something, or aim as at a picture. Some time ago he told me about the GM
>growth rate in Poland, which AFAIK, is second only to China's.
>
>This game is as smooth as a Capablanca, no? Phil
>
>> like an open
>> space. I saw the king side only, while Railich played
>> on both wings, on the entire board.
>>
>> Wlod
>
>

--
With best wishes from Eric Hallsworth
45 Stretham Road, Wilburton, Cambs CB6 3RX, England
Publisher of Selective Search, the UK's only Computer Chess Magazine, est. 1985.
Computer Chess web pages+photos... http://www.elhchess.demon.co.uk


  
Date: 08 Dec 2007 09:53:53
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Great Game by young Polish WGM

"Eric Hallsworth" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, Chess One
> <[email protected]> writes
>>
>>"Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Dec 7, 4:24 am, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Taken from the current First-Saturday norm tournament in Budapest -
>>>> organisers enthusiastically recommend it to the chess public:-
>>>>
>>>> (1) Rajlich ,I (2411) - Bui ,V (2461) [A80]
>>>>
>>>> First Saturday GM 2007 Dec (6), 06.12.2007
>>>>
>>>> 1.d4 f5 2.Bg5 c6 3.Nd2 g6 4.e3 Bg7 5.c3 d5 6.Ne2 Nf6 7.h4 h6 8.Bxf6
>>>> Bxf6
>>>> 9.Nf4 Rg8 10.Bd3 e6 11.Nf3 g5 12.hxg5 hxg5 13.Rh7 g4 14.Kd2 Qd6 15.Nh5
>>>> Qf8
>>>> 16.Ne5 Nd7 17.Rf7 Qh6 18.Nxf6+ Nxf6 19.Qb3 Nd7 20.Qb4 Qh4 21.Rh1 Qxf2+
>>>> 22.Kc1 c5 23.Qa4 Qxg2 24.Rhh7 1-0
>>>>
>>>> //Phil Innes for Laszlo Nagy & Miklos Orso
>>>
>>> Wow!!! Thank you, Phil.
>>>
>>> Look at the final position--black has only queen active.
>>>
>>> It's such a quiet, simple and complete game,
>>
>>Yes it is - and all 3 of those are difficult to achieve. I don't know much
>>about the young lady
>
> I believe she is the wife of Vasik Rajlich, the programmer of Rybka

Hah! Thank you, Eric.

I write with him a little bit - we are networking on the subject of MAMS
[Man Assisted Machine Chess (Shach)] to look at some long-string positional
patterns, especially those created by material :: initiative imbalances.

[I see below you are also in the chess computer journalism business.]

Anyway - I am glad I posted the game here, especially to read Wlod's
responses, which are [I will embarass him] a little bit elegeic, indeed,
after that other Pole, they are Chopinesque.

This is, IMO, a good balance to bits & bytes, and fitting chess as science,
performed as art.

Phil Innes


>>, but if the other pole <g> was here I bet Jz could tell
>>us something, or aim as at a picture. Some time ago he told me about the
>>GM
>>growth rate in Poland, which AFAIK, is second only to China's.
>>
>>This game is as smooth as a Capablanca, no? Phil
>>
>>> like an open
>>> space. I saw the king side only, while Railich played
>>> on both wings, on the entire board.
>>>
>>> Wlod
>>
>>
>
> --
> With best wishes from Eric Hallsworth
> 45 Stretham Road, Wilburton, Cambs CB6 3RX, England
> Publisher of Selective Search, the UK's only Computer Chess Magazine, est.
> 1985.
> Computer Chess web pages+photos... http://www.elhchess.demon.co.uk




 
Date: 08 Dec 2007 00:45:47
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Great Game by young Polish WGM
On Dec 7, 11:19 am, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" <[email protected]> wrote in messagenews:[email protected].

> > Wow!!! Thank you, Phil.
>
> > Look at the final position--black has only queen active.
>
> > It's such a quiet, simple and complete game,
>
> Yes it is - and all 3 of those are difficult to achieve. I don't know much
> about the young lady, but if the other pole <g> was here I bet Jz could tell
> us something, or aim as at a picture. Some time ago he told me about the GM
> growth rate in Poland, which AFAIK, is second only to China's.
>
> This game is as smooth as a Capablanca, no? Phil

Let me add a few words (sorry :-). I don't remember a game
in which Capablanca would allow his king to be attacted
in such a dangerous looking way by the hostile queen,
shooting in the king's face from one-two steps away.

it's a paradox that this game feels quiet while superficially
it looked at the same time that the white king was exposed
to a mortal danger. Strange. Very moody, artistic. it was and
it was not a combinational game. The grey water of a great
river moves fast but looks like it is standing still, and the
impression is peaceful. Wow!

Regards,

Wlod


 
Date: 08 Dec 2007 00:37:32
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Great Game by young Polish WGM
On Dec 7, 11:19 am, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" <[email protected]> wrote in messagenews:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > On Dec 7, 4:24 am, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Taken from the current First-Saturday norm tournament in Budapest -
> >> organisers enthusiastically recommend it to the chess public:-
>
> >> (1) Rajlich ,I (2411) - Bui ,V (2461) [A80]
>
> >> First Saturday GM 2007 Dec (6), 06.12.2007
>
> >> 1.d4 f5 2.Bg5 c6 3.Nd2 g6 4.e3 Bg7 5.c3 d5 6.Ne2 Nf6 7.h4 h6 8.Bxf6 Bxf6
> >> 9.Nf4 Rg8 10.Bd3 e6 11.Nf3 g5 12.hxg5 hxg5 13.Rh7 g4 14.Kd2 Qd6 15.Nh5
> >> Qf8
> >> 16.Ne5 Nd7 17.Rf7 Qh6 18.Nxf6+ Nxf6 19.Qb3 Nd7 20.Qb4 Qh4 21.Rh1 Qxf2+
> >> 22.Kc1 c5 23.Qa4 Qxg2 24.Rhh7 1-0
>
> >> //Phil Innes for Laszlo Nagy & Miklos Orso
>
> > Wow!!! Thank you, Phil.
>
> > Look at the final position--black has only queen active.
>
> > It's such a quiet, simple and complete game,
>
> Yes it is - and all 3 of those are difficult to achieve. I don't know much
> about the young lady, but if the other pole <g> was here I bet Jz could tell
> us something, or aim as at a picture. Some time ago he told me about the GM
> growth rate in Poland, which AFAIK, is second only to China's.
>
> This game is as smooth as a Capablanca, no? Phil

To me it's diffirent. Capablanca's were elegant, shining.
And one was enjoying each detail, and each move.
Many said that Rubinstein's games were like grand
musical compositions, and that was my feeling too.

The Railich-Bui game is very global. This is what
dominates this game in my mind, and makes it unique.
Other aspects are fine but feel simple. The global vision, and global
integration of this game is like 99% of it. In many great games
grandmasters win by seeing two theaters while their opponent paid
attention only to one. This was Kramnik's strategy against Topalov.

In Bronstein's King's Indian games there were flashy
combinations but based on certain fixed structure
elements of the position which he and Boleslavsky
have discovered. In that sense those games were
strategic.

But in this game there is only one huge global theater.
Only one total structure. And only the winner saw it.
To me it would be not possible to pay correctly the details of
the game even if I understood the global idea, but it still feels
like to the winner the details were nothing. In other games the
details are impressive, we are surprised by some isolated moves.
Here the global vision is the surprise, not a detail or a move, and
not even isolated strategical constructs. The game was an integrated
totality.

Sorry for so many words, thank you again,

Wlod


  
Date: 08 Dec 2007 09:40:31
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Great Game by young Polish WGM

"Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:b0ed4a64-ec6d-4237-8ee0-f8714d51598c@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

>>
>> This game is as smooth as a Capablanca, no? Phil
>
> To me it's diffirent. Capablanca's were elegant, shining.
> And one was enjoying each detail, and each move.
> Many said that Rubinstein's games were like grand
> musical compositions, and that was my feeling too.
>
> The Railich-Bui game is very global. This is what
> dominates this game in my mind, and makes it unique.
> Other aspects are fine but feel simple. The global vision, and global
> integration of this game is like 99% of it. In many great games
> grandmasters win by seeing two theaters while their opponent paid
> attention only to one. This was Kramnik's strategy against Topalov.
>
> In Bronstein's King's Indian games there were flashy
> combinations but based on certain fixed structure
> elements of the position which he and Boleslavsky
> have discovered. In that sense those games were
> strategic.
>
> But in this game there is only one huge global theater.
> Only one total structure. And only the winner saw it.
> To me it would be not possible to pay correctly the details of
> the game even if I understood the global idea, but it still feels
> like to the winner the details were nothing. In other games the
> details are impressive, we are surprised by some isolated moves.
> Here the global vision is the surprise, not a detail or a move, and
> not even isolated strategical constructs. The game was an integrated
> totality.
>
> Sorry for so many words, thank you again,

Wlod, you write any more words, you get to get your own column! Really, it
is interesting and refreshing to read of these differing qualities or
characters [old fashioned literary sense] of the art of playing chess.

It is fun to approach the game this way - I asked Taimanov a few questions
based on musicians - and he said eg: that Kasparov was like Shostakovitch,
'for complexity,' which is a nice appreciation.

So, recently I asked the player, "if Tony Miles was the John Lennon of
English chess, who is Mickey Adams?" ;)

Now let me ask you, Wlod, who is this /like/:

"But in this game there is only one huge global theater.
Only one total structure. And only the winner saw it."

Maybe you will chose your own realm of activity to describe who or what is
similar? Then we can all play, and create our own rubric.


Cordially, Phil innes



> Wlod




 
Date: 07 Dec 2007 04:59:54
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Great Game by young Polish WGM
On Dec 7, 4:24 am, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Taken from the current First-Saturday norm tournament in Budapest -
> organisers enthusiastically recommend it to the chess public:-
>
> (1) Rajlich ,I (2411) - Bui ,V (2461) [A80]
>
> First Saturday GM 2007 Dec (6), 06.12.2007
>
> 1.d4 f5 2.Bg5 c6 3.Nd2 g6 4.e3 Bg7 5.c3 d5 6.Ne2 Nf6 7.h4 h6 8.Bxf6 Bxf6
> 9.Nf4 Rg8 10.Bd3 e6 11.Nf3 g5 12.hxg5 hxg5 13.Rh7 g4 14.Kd2 Qd6 15.Nh5 Qf8
> 16.Ne5 Nd7 17.Rf7 Qh6 18.Nxf6+ Nxf6 19.Qb3 Nd7 20.Qb4 Qh4 21.Rh1 Qxf2+
> 22.Kc1 c5 23.Qa4 Qxg2 24.Rhh7 1-0
>
> //Phil Innes for Laszlo Nagy & Miklos Orso

Wow!!! Thank you, Phil.

Look at the final position--black has only queen active.

It's such a quiet, simple and complete game, like an open
space. I saw the king side only, while Railich played
on both wings, on the entire board.

Wlod


  
Date: 07 Dec 2007 14:19:37
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Great Game by young Polish WGM

"Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Dec 7, 4:24 am, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Taken from the current First-Saturday norm tournament in Budapest -
>> organisers enthusiastically recommend it to the chess public:-
>>
>> (1) Rajlich ,I (2411) - Bui ,V (2461) [A80]
>>
>> First Saturday GM 2007 Dec (6), 06.12.2007
>>
>> 1.d4 f5 2.Bg5 c6 3.Nd2 g6 4.e3 Bg7 5.c3 d5 6.Ne2 Nf6 7.h4 h6 8.Bxf6 Bxf6
>> 9.Nf4 Rg8 10.Bd3 e6 11.Nf3 g5 12.hxg5 hxg5 13.Rh7 g4 14.Kd2 Qd6 15.Nh5
>> Qf8
>> 16.Ne5 Nd7 17.Rf7 Qh6 18.Nxf6+ Nxf6 19.Qb3 Nd7 20.Qb4 Qh4 21.Rh1 Qxf2+
>> 22.Kc1 c5 23.Qa4 Qxg2 24.Rhh7 1-0
>>
>> //Phil Innes for Laszlo Nagy & Miklos Orso
>
> Wow!!! Thank you, Phil.
>
> Look at the final position--black has only queen active.
>
> It's such a quiet, simple and complete game,

Yes it is - and all 3 of those are difficult to achieve. I don't know much
about the young lady, but if the other pole <g > was here I bet Jz could tell
us something, or aim as at a picture. Some time ago he told me about the GM
growth rate in Poland, which AFAIK, is second only to China's.

This game is as smooth as a Capablanca, no? Phil

> like an open
> space. I saw the king side only, while Railich played
> on both wings, on the entire board.
>
> Wlod