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Date: 11 Nov 2007 10:16:24
From: Sanny
Subject: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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Now Since the GetClub Game is free from Bugs. And It is playing much
stronger. What do players expect from the GetClub Chess.
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Do you feel it should play even more strong or are you now satisfied
with the game strength?
Beginner Level is Strong enough for many players.
Easy Level is good challenge to Help Bot.
Normal & Master are still Child for Zebediah. Only Zebediah beats
GetClub Chess like carrots. While Other players I think must be
satisfied with Beginner & Easy Levels. Can other Players still beat
the Normal & Master Level. Or it is just for Zebediah.
I request Taylor Kingston to have a Match between Master & Fritj8 And
let me know the mistakes if any in GetClub Chess. As it is playing
much stronger than before It is very difficult for weak players to
find mistake in the game.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 18 Nov 2007 23:21:23
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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On Nov 17, 11:21 am, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Nov 17, 1:04 am, Sanny <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Master was ahead with a pawn, But you sacrificed your Rook and Gave a
> > Check Mate.
>
> I completely overlooked ...Nxf2 followed by ...Qe3+ and
> then ...Qxc1. Against a human opponent, I might have
> tried a much slower build-up, being careful not to allow
> any such treachery. Sometimes I am so good at keeping
> my own King safe that I forget it does not happen all by
> itself. :>D
>
> TheGetClubprogram is getting stronger in attack, but
> in self-defense it still has a long way to go.
>
> -- help bot
Today Check & Capture extensions as you suggested were added. See if
that improves the game or not. Now depth of search has gone down from
5-6 to 2-3 only. But may be it plays better.
So now Play a few games with Beginner, Easy & Normal Levels and let me
know if the improvements are working well. Or should I remove these
improvements?
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 16 Nov 2007 22:21:26
From: help bot
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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On Nov 17, 1:04 am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> Master was ahead with a pawn, But you sacrificed your Rook and Gave a
> Check Mate.
I completely overlooked ...Nxf2 followed by ...Qe3+ and
then ...Qxc1. Against a human opponent, I might have
tried a much slower build-up, being careful not to allow
any such treachery. Sometimes I am so good at keeping
my own King safe that I forget it does not happen all by
itself. : >D
The GetClub program is getting stronger in attack, but
in self-defense it still has a long way to go.
-- help bot
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Date: 16 Nov 2007 22:04:54
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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On Nov 17, 12:03 am, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Nov 16, 9:15 am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > What you really want to dos is play Sanny's program on "Master" level.
> > A rare opportunity to experience whatchesswas like during the 17th
> > century era of sitzfleish (the art of winning by taking so long to
> > move
> > that your opponent dies of boredom) which resulted in the development
> > ofChessClocks!
>
> In fact, the move of the Queen was changed to address
> the "boring" problem ofchess. Now she can go as far as
> she likes, in any given direction -- provided no man stands
> in her path.
>
> The later problem of an opponent sitting and refusing to
> move -- normally the result of a losing position -- came
> much later, and so did the invention of thechessclock
> and its widespread adoption.
>
> As for Sanny's Master level, most players I would
> expect simply open another tab (window) or watch TV.
> The problem lies not in actually dying of old age (though
> that might /seem/ plausible), but in the fact that one's
> attention to the game is always interrupted, after every
> single move. How can one to be expected to play one's
> bestchessif the opponent might not move for hours, or
> then again, might move at any time, and yet the TV
> episode is right at the point where Clark Kent is caught
> up in a tornado saving Lana Lang?
>
> Right now I am in the middle of a game where I got
> careless, missing an "obvious" sacrifice against who
> knows what level (this game has been in progress for
> weeks) atGetClub. My only excuse is that unlike
> when I play human opponents, against this machine
> I dare not take care and proceed slowly, methodically
> on account of the complaint above: I will eventually
> die of old age. I struggle to make progress at a rapid
> clip, and as the program has improved over time,
> this becomes more difficult -- and more dangerous.
>
> Believe it or not, the program has improved a lot,
> though it is still no match for any commercial program.
>
> -- help bot
Master was ahead with a pawn, But you sacrificed your Rook and Gave a
Check Mate.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 16 Nov 2007 11:03:05
From: help bot
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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On Nov 16, 9:15 am, [email protected] wrote:
> What you really want to dos is play Sanny's program on "Master" level.
> A rare opportunity to experience what chess was like during the 17th
> century era of sitzfleish (the art of winning by taking so long to
> move
> that your opponent dies of boredom) which resulted in the development
> of Chess Clocks!
In fact, the move of the Queen was changed to address
the "boring" problem of chess. Now she can go as far as
she likes, in any given direction -- provided no man stands
in her path.
The later problem of an opponent sitting and refusing to
move -- normally the result of a losing position -- came
much later, and so did the invention of the chess clock
and its widespread adoption.
As for Sanny's Master level, most players I would
expect simply open another tab (window) or watch TV.
The problem lies not in actually dying of old age (though
that might /seem/ plausible), but in the fact that one's
attention to the game is always interrupted, after every
single move. How can one to be expected to play one's
best chess if the opponent might not move for hours, or
then again, might move at any time, and yet the TV
episode is right at the point where Clark Kent is caught
up in a tornado saving Lana Lang?
Right now I am in the middle of a game where I got
careless, missing an "obvious" sacrifice against who
knows what level (this game has been in progress for
weeks) at GetClub. My only excuse is that unlike
when I play human opponents, against this machine
I dare not take care and proceed slowly, methodically
on account of the complaint above: I will eventually
die of old age. I struggle to make progress at a rapid
clip, and as the program has improved over time,
this becomes more difficult -- and more dangerous.
Believe it or not, the program has improved a lot,
though it is still no match for any commercial program.
-- help bot
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Date: 16 Nov 2007 06:15:44
From:
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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What you really want to dos is play Sanny's program on "Master" level.
A rare opportunity to experience what chess was like during the 17th
century era of sitzfleish (the art of winning by taking so long to
move
that your opponent dies of boredom) which resulted in the development
of Chess Clocks!
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Date: 15 Nov 2007 22:06:53
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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On Nov 15, 5:10 pm, Dave <[email protected] > wrote:
> Sanny wrote:
>
> Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://KennethRSloan.com/
>
>
>
> > I visitedhttp://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/and saw the picture. Are you a
> > Musician? Nice Site, Why not add some background music on your site.
>
> > Bye
> > Sanny
>
> Music on sites is one of the most annoying things I find. Using a PC
> late at night, go to some web site, and get a lot of noise out of the
> computer. If one clicks a music file one should expect this, but the few
> sites that do this for not good reason, I find most annoying.
>
> That was one of the many things I disliked about your site, but unlike
> others, I have never bothered playing a game. This machine only has dual
> 1.2 GHz CPUs with a 8 GB of main memory, so I doubt it is capable of
> playing a game in a half-sensible time.
Now you can play with Beginenner Level which will always make move in
10-20 seconds. And Max it will take 24-25 seconds for some move.
Play a game: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Now GetClub plays in time it advertises as well as plays strong game.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 16 Nov 2007 13:38:19
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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In rec.games.chess.computer Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> Now you can play with Beginenner Level which will always make move in
> 10-20 seconds. And Max it will take 24-25 seconds for some move.
>
> Play a game: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
>
> Now GetClub plays in time it advertises as well as plays strong game.
>
No Blitz games then? I have been starting to play 5-minute chess to try and
get my quick tatical skills up to par ;-)
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
When the ax entered the forest, the trees said, "The handle is one of us!"
-- Turkish proverb
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Date: 12 Nov 2007 18:01:54
From: SBD
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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On Nov 12, 11:32 am, Kenneth Sloan <[email protected] > wrote:
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> Why not add a chess-playing program to your site?
Damn that was good. Bruceski.
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Date: 12 Nov 2007 09:11:37
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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> --
> Kenneth Sloan [email protected]
> Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
> University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
> Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://KennethRSloan.com/
I visited http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/ and saw the picture. Are you a
Musician? Nice Site, Why not add some background music on your site.
Bye
Sanny
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Date: 15 Nov 2007 12:10:22
From: Dave
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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Sanny wrote:
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://KennethRSloan.com/
>
> I visited http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/ and saw the picture. Are you a
> Musician? Nice Site, Why not add some background music on your site.
>
> Bye
> Sanny
>
>
Music on sites is one of the most annoying things I find. Using a PC
late at night, go to some web site, and get a lot of noise out of the
computer. If one clicks a music file one should expect this, but the few
sites that do this for not good reason, I find most annoying.
That was one of the many things I disliked about your site, but unlike
others, I have never bothered playing a game. This machine only has dual
1.2 GHz CPUs with a 8 GB of main memory, so I doubt it is capable of
playing a game in a half-sensible time.
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Date: 12 Nov 2007 11:32:58
From: Kenneth Sloan
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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Sanny wrote:
>> --
>> Kenneth Sloan [email protected]
>> Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
>> University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
>> Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://KennethRSloan.com/
>
> I visited http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/ and saw the picture. Are you a
> Musician? Nice Site, Why not add some background music on your site.
>
> Bye
> Sanny
>
>
Why not add a chess-playing program to your site?
--
Kenneth Sloan [email protected]
Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://KennethRSloan.com/
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Date: 12 Nov 2007 18:15:04
From: Terry
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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"Kenneth Sloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sanny wrote:
>>> --
>>> Kenneth Sloan [email protected]
>>> Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
>>> University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
>>> Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://KennethRSloan.com/
>>
>> I visited http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/ and saw the picture. Are you a
>> Musician? Nice Site, Why not add some background music on your site.
>>
>> Bye
>> Sanny
>>
>>
>
> Why not add a chess-playing program to your site?
>
>
LOL
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Date: 11 Nov 2007 22:00:44
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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On Nov 12, 9:51 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Rank of GetClub? Rather rank indeed.
>
> I looked at a Sanjay vs. Beginner game. The play is "not so good"
> but at the end Beginner is in check and makes a capture with the King
> that leaves the King in check!
>
> Until GetClub at least plays by the rules there is not much to say
> about quality.
That move is only for record. The Game Resigns before that. It is only
in the recorded game you will see such move.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 12 Nov 2007 11:27:02
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I looked at a Sanjay vs. Beginner game. The play is "not so good"
>> but at the end Beginner is in check and makes a capture with the
>> King that leaves the King in check!
>
> That move is only for record. The Game Resigns before that. It is
> only in the recorded game you will see such move.
We don't ask why the record of the game contains illegal moves that
were not part of the game.
Dave.
--
David Richerby Chocolate Newspaper (TM): it's like
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a daily broadsheet that's made of
chocolate!
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Date: 12 Nov 2007 10:28:53
From: Kenneth Sloan
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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David Richerby wrote:
> Sanny <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I looked at a Sanjay vs. Beginner game. The play is "not so good"
>>> but at the end Beginner is in check and makes a capture with the
>>> King that leaves the King in check!
>> That move is only for record. The Game Resigns before that. It is
>> only in the recorded game you will see such move.
>
> We don't ask why the record of the game contains illegal moves that
> were not part of the game.
>
>
> Dave.
>
Please move this thread to rec.games.chess.computer.
--
Kenneth Sloan [email protected]
Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://KennethRSloan.com/
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Date: 12 Nov 2007 04:51:30
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: How do you rank GetClub Chess?
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Rank of GetClub? Rather rank indeed.
I looked at a Sanjay vs. Beginner game. The play is "not so good"
but at the end Beginner is in check and makes a capture with the King
that leaves the King in check!
Until GetClub at least plays by the rules there is not much to say
about quality.
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