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Date: 14 Feb 2009 19:38:51
From: samsloan
Subject: I Demand that Allen Priest be Removed as Chairman of the Forum
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Only a few days ago, Bill Goichberg and Bill Hall made Allen Priest Chairman of the "Forum Oversight Committee". Mr. Priest is notoriously biased against me and the fact that he was appointed to this sensitive position during the election campaign period demonstrates that Bill Goichberg, who he running for re-election, intends to use his ultimate control over over Forum Moderation as a weapon against his election opponents. This is typical of what Bill Goichberg did during the last election campaign, appointing moderators such as Herbert Rodney Vaughn, Gregory Alexander, Steve of Tennessee and several other extremely opinionated opponents of my election, as moderators and FOC Members. Mr. Allen Priest is rated 654 by the USCF and that is not a typo. One of the rules of the USCF Issues Forum is that members are not supposed to make "disparaging remarks" about others in the forum or in the chess community. Mr. Allen Priest, as Chairman of the FOC, must follow the same rules that he is supposed to oversee. Now, only a few days after taking office as Chairman, Mr. Priest has made a barrage of disparaging remarks about me. When dealing with equals it is one thing, but Mr. Allen Priest holds in his hands as Chairman the authority to ban me from posting for one year. In view of his disparaging remarks today, I demand that he be removed as Chairman of the FOC. Here is the exchange between us that has taken place just over the last few minutes: by Allen on Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:25 pm #127966 Did Mr. Sloan get his facts wrong - again? Allen wrote:Did Mr. Sloan get his facts wrong - again? I request that Allen Priest, Chairman of the FOC, be sanctioned for that "disparaging remark". Sam Sloan [quote="Allen"]I was simply asking a question Mr. Sloan. I believe it has been demonstrated on these forums in the past that you indeed not gotten your facts straight in other posts. Therefore, the question - has this happened again? Allen [/quote] I think that it has been demonstrated on these forums that Mr. Allen Priest is an extremely biased person and is an extraordinarily inappropriate person to be the Chairman of the Forum Oversight Committee. Sam Sloan
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Date: 15 Feb 2009 22:36:43
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: I Demand that Allen Priest be Removed as Chairman of the Forum
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[quote="sdo1"][quote="tsawmiller"][quote="chessoffice"] [quote="tsawmiller"]He has been asked to respond.[/quote] I believe that Sam Sloan also needs to either present evidence to support his accusation that I recruited Susan Polgar to become a candidate for the board, or retract this charge. I consider the accusation to be totally unfounded and have made two posts requesting a retraction, both of which have apparently been ignored. Bill Goichberg[/quote] I believe he already did retract that accusation, after my insistence that he respond to your challenge. Tim Sawmiller [/quote] Were the false accusations removed from the forum? That is the crux of the matter. The allegations, even if retracted, in many cases remain and the perpetrator continues unmolested by forum governance. This must stop. This molestation of members' reputations have been allowed to continue on the official forum of the USCF. This must stop. [u]The poster in question has established a record years' in length of posting false and defamatory allegations against USCF governance and regular members. It is the responsibility of the USCF to effect the cessation of that poster's ability to do these things on the USCF's official forum.[/u] Ron, thank you for your previous explanation of the last day's events and the action taken to prevent further libelous posts. Steve Owens [/quote] The moderators are demanding that I respond to the above allegations and have suspended me from posting until I respond. The allegations are ridiculous. It is an absolute fact that you have attacked me hundreds of times going all the way back to 2002 (and not just over a period of two years). Anybody can go back and look at http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fide-chess/ under your various names "Steve of Alabama", "Steve of Tennessee" and see them. You quit and rejoined my group several different times under different names. I do not know why the moderators are insisting on a fight over this, as I was willing to let this pass. Your posting above is the latest example of your many attacks on me. Are you denying that the above is an attack? If you are denying that this is an attack, then we have vastly different views of what an attack is. More importantly, it is you, not me, who has violated the AUG, because you are claiming that I wrote something that I never wrote. Everybody should go take a look at what you write that I wrote and what I actually wrote. Here is what you wrote, "Sloan states, or implies (and has stated unequivocally in this forum and elsewhere), that I and others were appointed primarily to silence Sloan." I never wrote that. In addition, you have no direct knowledge of why you were appointed and I do have direct knowledge. I was on the board that appointed you and I voted in favor of your appointment. You were appointed to the Forum Oversight Committee by a vote of the USCF Executive Board on April 18, 2007, as part of a deal as proposed by either Bill Goichberg or Randy Hough. The deal was to appoint one pro- Sloan person, one anti-Sloan person and one in the middle. You were the anti-Sloan person. Gregory Alexander was the one supposedly in the middle but, as we now know, he was hardly neutral. Again, this was not my idea or my phraseology. Perhaps you have forgotten that I was the person who first informed you by email that you had been appointed. In the quote above you write, "Sloan states, or implies". When is a complaining party allowed to complain about what somebody "implies"? Either I did state it, or I did not state it. There is no middle ground. Since I did not state it, Steve's statement above is demonstrably false and I am demanding that he be sanctioned. Now, about Bill Goichberg's statement further above, it is an absolute fact that Bill Goichberg was a backer and supporter from the beginning of the candidacy of Susan Polgar. Bill Goichberg was the strongest supporter Susan Polgar had (not counting Paul Truong of course). It was only around April or May, 2007, late in the campaign, that Susan started attacking Bill Goichberg on her Blog, with the result that Bill Goichberg sent a postcard to 17,000 USCF members attacking me put also making critical remarks about Susan Polgar and Paul Truong. By that time, late in the campaign, most voters had made up their minds and the mildly negative views that Bill Goichberg expressed on that postcard were too late to change the election result. I have apologized and withdrawn the statement that Bill Goichberg "recruited" Polgar to run because I have no direct evidence that he did, but I will not withdraw the statement that Goichberg supported Polgar from the first day that her candidacy because it is a fact that he did. Does Bill deny it? It is also a fact that Bill Goichberg strongly opposed my candidacy in that election and also in this election whereas up until the current election I have supported Bill Goichberg in every one of the many times that he ran. It is also a fact that Bill habitually recruits candidates to run on his line and at least one of the current candidates was recruited by him, so in view of that and the immediate support that Polgar received from Bill Goichberg as soon as she announced her candidacy it was a reasonable supposition that he had recruited her too. Now, I was sound asleep and was woken out of bed to type this (it is past midnight) and I need to go back to sleep. I am hereby demanding that both Steve Owens and Bill Goichberg be sanctioned for violations of the AUG above. Just because Bill Goichberg is USCF President, that should not exempt him from being sanctioned just as everybody else is. Why should he have special privileges? Please note that before Steve Owens and Bill Goichberg started attacking me above, the moderator wrote, "The moderators have reviewed this thread and find no violations of the AUG." So, even after the moderators informed both Bill Goichberg and Steve Owens that there was no violation of the AUG, they objected and insisted that there was a violation of the AUG, with Bill Goichberg using his position as President to make this false claim forcefully. Therefore, both Steve Owens and Bill Goichberg must be sanctioned under the rules for making "disparaging remarks" and false statements without "substantial proof". Sam Sloan
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Date: 15 Feb 2009 05:12:36
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: I Demand that Allen Priest be Removed as Chairman of the Forum
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[quote="Allen"]I can't quite see how you jump to that conclusion Mr. Sloan when all I am doing is asking a question based on an earlier post in the thread. Allen [/quote] At that point in this thread, only two people had posted, myself and Bill Goichberg. Your "question" was "Did Mr. Sloan get his facts wrong - again?". This is like asking "Have you stopped beating your wife". It implies that in the past Bill Goichberg has told the truth and I have not and you are asking whether this has happened again. You further stated: "I believe it has been demonstrated on these forums in the past that you indeed not gotten your facts straight in other posts. Therefore, the question - has this happened again?" No such thing has been demonstrated. What has been demonstrated is that Bill Goichberg and myself have decidedly different views of what the facts are. I am further stating that if the five letters that Bill Goichberg wrote Matsler in July and August 2006 were made available to the members, then everybody would see that my statements were true and Bill's were "disingenuous". Your statement above clearly implies that it had been established that I am a liar. Such a statement is prohibited by the rules of this forum. Were it not for the fact that you are the Chairman of the "Forum Oversight Committee" you would already have been sanctioned and bounced off this group for making that statement. Sam Sloan
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