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Date: 02 Apr 2008 16:55:02
From: RookHouse
Subject: Janowsky-Winawer (1897 Berlin)
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The late 1800's provided us with many great chess games and novelties
from several underrated players of that era. Many of these games
have been forgotten or simply never seen by chess enthusiasts of
today.
To view a game played between David Janowsky of France and Simon
Winawer of Poland, that was analyzed by former American chess player
and columnist Emil Kemeny, click here: http://www.rookhouse.com/blog/?p=166
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Date: 07 Apr 2008 01:10:40
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Janowsky-Winawer (1897 Berlin)
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On Apr 6, 4:04 am, Offramp <[email protected] > wrote:
> but Janowsky himself signed his name with a Y at
> the end. Surely he is the expert.
I am curious how consistent Janowsk[i/y] was.
In old days people didn't treat their
name as a formal code/identification
but as a short description. Thus Mozart and
especially Chopin would sign themselves in
various ways depending on the circumstances.
I don't know about D. Janowski, but there is a
possibility that he used one kind of signature
for the purpose of his chess contacts, and
another on other occasions.
Best regards,
Wlod
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Date: 06 Apr 2008 04:04:10
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Janowsky-Winawer (1897 Berlin)
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On Apr 4, 10:19 pm, "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> On Apr 2, 4:55 pm, RookHouse <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > To view a game played between David Janowsky of France and Simon
> > Winawer of Poland, that was analyzed by former American chess player
> > and columnist Emil Kemeny, click here:http://www.rookhouse.com/blog/?p=166
>
> Taylor already has used the correct spellingJanowski-- "i" at the end, not the westernized "y".
>
> Let me quote The Oxford Companion:
>
> Janowski(pron. yanofsky), Dawid Markelowicz,
> Polish-born player who settled in Paris around
> 1890.
>
> Observe tht it is Polish Dawid, not David.
> Also, it is Russian (or Russian Jewish)
> Markelowicz, meaning that it is otchestvo
> (father's first name with the respective
> Russian ending for this context) - at the
> time that part of Poland whereJanowskiwas
> born was under Russia.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Wlod
Very interesting - but Janowsky himself signed his name with a Y at
the end. Surely he is the expert.
> Janowski(pron. yanofsky),
If the Companion said that then it is wrong - the final syllable is
not 'sky' but 'ski'.
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Date: 04 Apr 2008 17:03:11
From: RookHouse
Subject: Re: Janowsky-Winawer (1897 Berlin)
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On Apr 4, 4:19=A0pm, "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)"
<[email protected] > wrote:
>
> Taylor already has used the correct spelling
> Janowski -- "i" at the end, not the westernized "y".
>
> Let me quote The Oxford Companion:
>
> =A0 Janowski (pron. yanofsky), Dawid Markelowicz,
> =A0 Polish-born player who settled in Paris around
> =A0 1890.
>
> Observe tht it is Polish Dawid, not David.
> Also, it is Russian (or Russian Jewish)
> Markelowicz, meaning that it is otchestvo
> (father's first name with the respective
> Russian ending for this context) - at the
> time that part of Poland where Janowski was
> born was under Russia.
>
> Best regards,
>
> =A0 =A0 Wlod
>
I realize this, but I was just staying consistent with the spelling
that Kemeny used in the article.
I will have future articles about Mikhail Chigorin, but it may be
spelled "Tchigorin" depending on the time period and the author.
Thanks,
Morphy
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Date: 04 Apr 2008 14:19:08
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Janowsky-Winawer (1897 Berlin)
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On Apr 2, 4:55 pm, RookHouse <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> To view a game played between David Janowsky of France and Simon
> Winawer of Poland, that was analyzed by former American chess player
> and columnist Emil Kemeny, click here:http://www.rookhouse.com/blog/?p=166
Taylor already has used the correct spelling
Janowski -- "i" at the end, not the westernized "y".
Let me quote The Oxford Companion:
Janowski (pron. yanofsky), Dawid Markelowicz,
Polish-born player who settled in Paris around
1890.
Observe tht it is Polish Dawid, not David.
Also, it is Russian (or Russian Jewish)
Markelowicz, meaning that it is otchestvo
(father's first name with the respective
Russian ending for this context) - at the
time that part of Poland where Janowski was
born was under Russia.
Best regards,
Wlod
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Date: 03 Apr 2008 17:00:47
From: RookHouse
Subject: Re: Janowsky-Winawer (1897 Berlin)
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On Apr 3, 6:32=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
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> =A0 Interesting to see Janowski, who said "I detest the endgame,"
> actually play a decent endgame. An interesting psychological aspect to
> this game is that Janowski loved bishops, while Winawer preferred
> knights, yet each ended up with what he did not like, in a R+N vs. R+B
> endgame.
> =A0 Over his career, Winawer had a dreadful record against Janowski,
> something like +2 -10. To be fair, though, they never meet until 1896,
> when Winawer, about 30 years older and by then nearly 60, was well
> past his prime, while Janowski was an up-and-coming youngster.
>
As someone else posted on my blog, Winawer's questionable 26...f6
seemed to be his downfall in this game.
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Date: 03 Apr 2008 15:32:28
From:
Subject: Re: Janowsky-Winawer (1897 Berlin)
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On Apr 2, 7:55=A0pm, RookHouse <[email protected] > wrote:
> The late 1800's provided us with many great chess games and novelties
> from several underrated players of that era. =A0 Many of these games
> have been forgotten or simply never seen by chess enthusiasts of
> today.
>
> To view a game played between David Janowsky of France and Simon
> Winawer of Poland, that was analyzed by former American chess player
> and columnist Emil Kemeny, click here:http://www.rookhouse.com/blog/?p=3D1=
66
Interesting to see Janowski, who said "I detest the endgame,"
actually play a decent endgame. An interesting psychological aspect to
this game is that Janowski loved bishops, while Winawer preferred
knights, yet each ended up with what he did not like, in a R+N vs. R+B
endgame.
Over his career, Winawer had a dreadful record against Janowski,
something like +2 -10. To be fair, though, they never meet until 1896,
when Winawer, about 30 years older and by then nearly 60, was well
past his prime, while Janowski was an up-and-coming youngster.
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