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Date: 21 Feb 2009 05:52:27
From:
Subject: Kamsky Topalov live rap
Game 4 is into a somewhat standard Ruy at move 16: C92

Both players have same amount of time; 1 hr 37. No fireworks from
either player yet. White is trying 12 Ng5 which Susan Polgar says is
still book, though a less usual line.

I imagine that Topalov will continue to try his chances with white,
and draw with black. OTOH, Kamsky has to find a breakthrough to level
the score, and better now than later!

For sure White has opportunities here for a K-side attack having
provoked g6 and h6 by Black.

Anybody else is welcome to join this rap, currently after black's move
17.

Phil Innes






 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 17:41:44
From:
Subject: Re: Kamsky Topalov live rap
On Feb 21, 7:59=A0pm, madams <micad...@bluesky.au > wrote:
> onech...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> > > a few more moves - looks like counter play has ended and Gata has to
> > > figure which pawn to march home to get the whole point. as they say i=
n
> > > chess books, the rest is a matter of technique, but don't ask me,
> > > endgames are strange things! once more, i'll hopefully return with th=
e
> > > result of this game, anon - certainly Gata has to keep remembering
> > > TIME, and that sort of tension can sometimes result in mistakes...
>
> > > PI
>
> > gata tries to bring his King into play and that is currently being
> > checked on the 1st and 2nd ranks. if ir progresses up the board the g
> > pawn drops and then black has a passed h pawn
>
> > o man - he did it,
>
> > he played 69. Kd3
> > and sure, Toppy removed the g button.
>
> > fast forward - storm tomorrow, got to get wood in] at move 73 material
> > is equal, white has 2 unsupported passer isolani's and black has a
> > passed h pawn on h5 supported by g6. white also has a pawn at d6 and I
> > think the Rh7 will scoot the black K out of the picture to force the d
> > pawn home
>
> > yes, Topalov resigned. 1:0
>
> > Match score Equal!
>
> Well done Phil..
>
> I've been following your live commentary, games 3 & 4 sight of board
> unseen & it's worked well - none of the tedious waiting for the move
> from the reader's point of view..
>
> From the timing of your posts I've estimated log immolation @ approx.
> 1hr. per log..
>
> Thus: game 3 =3D a three-logger..
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 game 4 =3D a 'fiver'..
>
> Worshipers, who not only immolate to them [the deities] the lives of
> men, but . . . the virtue and honor of women. --Boyle.
>
> m.

its cool stuff to try, join in or take over on monday, i have business
then - you and earnie do it!

phil


  
Date: 21 Feb 2009 18:22:54
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Kamsky Topalov live rap
THAT WAS GOOD AGAIN , THANK YOU ..

As i was reading each post you wrote i was feeling the pressure
myself ...lol .......

To win a game like this that took so long and Gata worked so hard to
win , he must be on cloud 9 now , knowing he can beat Top ....
This is the kind of game that can pump you up .

NOW he can not have a let down in the next game ...He has to fight
against relaxing too much after this hard fought win.....
Toppy may not show it to Gata but i bet he is pissed ...I would be
.....Getting a game up in a 8 game series you expect to win it .....Now
after draining your brain so much and being mentally tired then lose
must be devastating.....


I hope Gata go's to bed early and really gets some extra rest for his
brain ...Toppy mite come out like a rabid deranged dog Bot in the
next game.

They each won a game so now it is WAR....

when your watching the live feed do you see a chess board and time
clocks ? I assume you do since you post the time they take ..

Why don't they put this on PAY PER VIEW ?
Id pay ten $ or I5 $ to watch a game live and see the players ...I am
sure a few thousand people mite watch ...

I still see Gata using a lot of clock , that mite come back to haunt
him ...I hope not ...

Thanks again for your reviews THEY ARE EXCITING ...



 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 17:40:23
From:
Subject: Re: Kamsky Topalov live rap
On Feb 21, 7:35=A0pm, EJAY <etj...@aol.com > wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2:25=A0pm, onech...@comcast.net wrote:
>
>
>
> > > a few more moves - looks like counter play has ended and Gata has to
> > > figure which pawn to march home to get the whole point. as they say i=
n
> > > chess books, the rest is a matter of technique, but don't ask me,
> > > endgames are strange things! once more, i'll hopefully return with th=
e
> > > result of this game, anon - certainly Gata has to keep remembering
> > > TIME, and that sort of tension can sometimes result in mistakes...
>
> > > PI
>
> > gata tries to bring his King into play and that is currently being
> > checked on the 1st and 2nd ranks. if ir progresses up the board the g
> > pawn drops and then black has a passed h pawn
>
> > o man - he did it,
>
> > he played 69. Kd3
> > and sure, Toppy removed the g button.
>
> > fast forward - storm tomorrow, got to get wood in] at move 73 material
> > is equal, white has 2 unsupported passer isolani's and black has a
> > passed h pawn on h5 supported by g6. white also has a pawn at d6 and I
> > think the Rh7 will scoot the black K out of the picture to force the d
> > pawn home
>
> > yes, Topalov resigned. 1:0
>
> > Match score Equal!
>
> > Phil Innes
>
> Where was I all day. Did not get a chance to see the blow by blow
> account.

that's just what its like earnie, a boxing match

> Gata certainly played well and seems to be prepared to play
> the Match.It goes without saying it can go either way.Hope Gata can
> win in regulation as I think Topalov would have an advantage in any
> rapid tie-breaking situation. BTW I played poorly at the USATE losing
> a bad game ( a great game for teaching about bad bishops) to Nick
> DeFirmian.IMy team Reti 4 Change scored 3/5...As for me hopefully I
> can reddem myself at the Dutchess County Championships...

you cant even beat a gm these days ;)

how did our buddy do?

phil




 
Date: 22 Feb 2009 11:59:19
From: madams
Subject: Re: Kamsky Topalov live rap
onechess@comcast.net wrote:
>
> > a few more moves - looks like counter play has ended and Gata has to
> > figure which pawn to march home to get the whole point. as they say in
> > chess books, the rest is a matter of technique, but don't ask me,
> > endgames are strange things! once more, i'll hopefully return with the
> > result of this game, anon - certainly Gata has to keep remembering
> > TIME, and that sort of tension can sometimes result in mistakes...
> >
> > PI
>
> gata tries to bring his King into play and that is currently being
> checked on the 1st and 2nd ranks. if ir progresses up the board the g
> pawn drops and then black has a passed h pawn
>
> o man - he did it,
>
> he played 69. Kd3
> and sure, Toppy removed the g button.
>
> fast forward - storm tomorrow, got to get wood in] at move 73 material
> is equal, white has 2 unsupported passer isolani's and black has a
> passed h pawn on h5 supported by g6. white also has a pawn at d6 and I
> think the Rh7 will scoot the black K out of the picture to force the d
> pawn home
>
> yes, Topalov resigned. 1:0
>
> Match score Equal!

Well done Phil..

I've been following your live commentary, games 3 & 4 sight of board
unseen & it's worked well - none of the tedious waiting for the move
from the reader's point of view..

From the timing of your posts I've estimated log immolation @ approx.
1hr. per log..

Thus: game 3 = a three-logger..

game 4 = a 'fiver'..

Worshipers, who not only immolate to them [the deities] the lives of
men, but . . . the virtue and honor of women. --Boyle.

m.


 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 16:35:01
From: EJAY
Subject: Re: Kamsky Topalov live rap
On Feb 21, 2:25=A0pm, onech...@comcast.net wrote:
> > a few more moves - looks like counter play has ended and Gata has to
> > figure which pawn to march home to get the whole point. as they say in
> > chess books, the rest is a matter of technique, but don't ask me,
> > endgames are strange things! once more, i'll hopefully return with the
> > result of this game, anon - certainly Gata has to keep remembering
> > TIME, and that sort of tension can sometimes result in mistakes...
>
> > PI
>
> gata tries to bring his King into play and that is currently being
> checked on the 1st and 2nd ranks. if ir progresses up the board the g
> pawn drops and then black has a passed h pawn
>
> o man - he did it,
>
> he played 69. Kd3
> and sure, Toppy removed the g button.
>
> fast forward - storm tomorrow, got to get wood in] at move 73 material
> is equal, white has 2 unsupported passer isolani's and black has a
> passed h pawn on h5 supported by g6. white also has a pawn at d6 and I
> think the Rh7 will scoot the black K out of the picture to force the d
> pawn home
>
> yes, Topalov resigned. 1:0
>
> Match score Equal!
>
> Phil Innes

Where was I all day. Did not get a chance to see the blow by blow
account. Gata certainly played well and seems to be prepared to play
the Match.It goes without saying it can go either way.Hope Gata can
win in regulation as I think Topalov would have an advantage in any
rapid tie-breaking situation. BTW I played poorly at the USATE losing
a bad game ( a great game for teaching about bad bishops) to Nick
DeFirmian.IMy team Reti 4 Change scored 3/5...As for me hopefully I
can reddem myself at the Dutchess County Championships...


 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 14:17:09
From:
Subject: Re: Kamsky Topalov live rap
On Feb 21, 2:25=A0pm, onech...@comcast.net wrote:
> > a few more moves - looks like counter play has ended and Gata has to
> > figure which pawn to march home to get the whole point. as they say in
> > chess books, the rest is a matter of technique, but don't ask me,
> > endgames are strange things! once more, i'll hopefully return with the
> > result of this game, anon - certainly Gata has to keep remembering
> > TIME, and that sort of tension can sometimes result in mistakes...
>
> > PI
>
> gata tries to bring his King into play and that is currently being
> checked on the 1st and 2nd ranks. if ir progresses up the board the g
> pawn drops and then black has a passed h pawn
>
> o man - he did it,
>
> he played 69. Kd3
> and sure, Toppy removed the g button.
>
> fast forward - storm tomorrow, got to get wood in] at move 73 material
> is equal, white has 2 unsupported passer isolani's and black has a
> passed h pawn on h5 supported by g6. white also has a pawn at d6 and I
> think the Rh7 will scoot the black K out of the picture to force the d
> pawn home
>
> yes, Topalov resigned. 1:0
>
> Match score Equal!
>
> Phil Innes

Congrats to Gata. Glad to see this will be a contest.


 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 11:25:07
From:
Subject: Re: Kamsky Topalov live rap

> a few more moves - looks like counter play has ended and Gata has to
> figure which pawn to march home to get the whole point. as they say in
> chess books, the rest is a matter of technique, but don't ask me,
> endgames are strange things! once more, i'll hopefully return with the
> result of this game, anon - certainly Gata has to keep remembering
> TIME, and that sort of tension can sometimes result in mistakes...
>
> PI

gata tries to bring his King into play and that is currently being
checked on the 1st and 2nd ranks. if ir progresses up the board the g
pawn drops and then black has a passed h pawn

o man - he did it,

he played 69. Kd3
and sure, Toppy removed the g button.

fast forward - storm tomorrow, got to get wood in] at move 73 material
is equal, white has 2 unsupported passer isolani's and black has a
passed h pawn on h5 supported by g6. white also has a pawn at d6 and I
think the Rh7 will scoot the black K out of the picture to force the d
pawn home

yes, Topalov resigned. 1:0

Match score Equal!

Phil Innes





 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 11:08:54
From:
Subject: Re: Kamsky Topalov live rap

> 59. Ra7 - will you please move that from the diagonal? asks Gata
>
> unsure if Toppy can play Rd3+ and Rxb3, since the d pawn may gallop
> home
>
> okay - back with the result, i hope
>
> phil innes

now after a few moves gata has eliminated those possibilities, and
thogh they have passed 60 moves the clocks are not reset, what's the
new drama? time, white has 3:09 black has 5:36.

i wonder if toppy will try the sucker mate at 62, Bc1 Bf4 followed by
Rh1, h5++ ?

it doesn't look like the set-up provides him with any other traction,
so prob not.

laugh, just a different move order, on

62 ... h5 we got
63. Kg3

i notice the clocks reset in there somewhere and whiote has 15 black
18

a few more moves - looks like counter play has ended and Gata has to
figure which pawn to march home to get the whole point. as they say in
chess books, the rest is a matter of technique, but don't ask me,
endgames are strange things! once more, i'll hopefully return with the
result of this game, anon - certainly Gata has to keep remembering
TIME, and that sort of tension can sometimes result in mistakes...

PI







 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 10:46:33
From:
Subject: Re: Kamsky Topalov live rap

> Qd6... the Nd5 is currently immune since the Bf7 is pinned. So Kg8?
>
> unfortunately the Ng3 can't join the attack.
>
> I'll post this, then come back. Its white to move at 50 23 mins, black
> has 31.

I suppose the idea of Ra6 was that on an exchange of Queens, black can
nab the a2 pawn, but it also provies mobility for the Rook. anyway,
counting down, white has 21 mins, 20 mins.

I'm guessing the time control now, but looks like 20 in 1 hr.

moves have been:
50 Qe2 Kg8
51 Qxb5 Rxa2
52 Qb7

no perpetuals here i can see, black is on move with 22 mins, white has
12

an intermezzo check Ra1+
53. Kg2 Bxd5
and white decides to recapture with the pawn, or the Queen check.

if with the pawn, can the Rook go to d1 to win it, if not does black
exchange queens, then do the same?

Kamsky has 9 minutes [I feel like a quiz show master]

Okay. 54 exd5, now e5 pins the Knight against King, and Qf6 threatens
mate on h4...

Rb1 threatens the b pawn since the white Q will be overloaded, which
will toppy chose?

He went for Qf6, gata plays Qc8 to guard against the mate and also pin
the Bf8

there goes 55. ... Qh4+ with 12 mins remaining, white hs 8 mins 30

56 Qh3 [forced] and the Queens go off, leaving me where I left on,
calculating if black can now win a pawn, and if that is enough.

yup rd1

58 Ne4 will fork will travel :)
58. ... Ba3 [ensuring it can't be pinned, while inhibiting advance of
both white passers.

59. Ra7 - will you please move that from the diagonal? asks Gata

unsure if Toppy can play Rd3+ and Rxb3, since the d pawn may gallop
home

okay - back with the result, i hope

phil innes





 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 10:05:14
From:
Subject: Re: Kamsky Topalov live rap

> Toppy is doing a deep think at move 42 in order to save the game - he
> is now a pawn down
>
> i'll post this now expecting to see 1-0 later
>

Its now later, but hardly any news 0- I see Susan doesn't like Oppy's
42. Bf7, but he is obviously trying to complicate even if that means
objectively he doesn't play the strongest move.

Still look js excellent for Gata, but with these many pieces still on
the board Topalov is such a tactical monster - best since, who? Tal?
That he is going to have to nail his man.

Currently white is on move after 42, and has 38 mins on the clock
[unsure what the second time conrol is] while black has 50.

White cannot play 43. BxBf8 because of Rxd2, winning. White now 34
mins. How to extricate himself without giving back a pawn? Rc7 looks
wonky. If the Queens go off, is this won for white against the 2 black
bishops?

he fixed it this way [after 42... Bf7]

43 Bb4 Bxb4
44 Rxd7 Qxd7
45 Rxf6

this leaves black the pair of bishops and 41 minutes, white has 30
mins

black replies Re6 challenging white's rook - Gata immediately replies
Nd5 defending the rook which cannot be taken becasue of a KQ fork,
simultaneously hitting the Bb4, which has to retreat to f8.

what now, gata? cummon mate, you gotta win this!

A quick look at Susan's commentary, she said "43.Bb4 Gata chose not to
go into the much more complicated line 43.Bxf8. If Black plays
43...Bxb4 44.Rxd7 Qxd7 45.Rxf6 +="

White withdraws the rook from f6 to f3 threatening the N fork at f6,
toppy seems to have either king or Queen move indicated - no time to
playt Rc6 - maybe Kg7 is possible, keeping an eye on the n sac at f5+,
Bg7 also guard f6 but take the B out of the game again.

OK -Toppy played Kg7 and gata immediately plays Rc3 for Rc7

white 27 mins black 34 and ticking

maybe black has Bd6 his Re6 currently has no moves - but this is the
sort of position where Toppy may again go for complications.

Susan hasn't posted for awhile, so can't inform this analysis.

ah! thought so! Ra6 to look at the defended pawn on a2, now on Rc7...
and I don't have to guess since gata played it...

Qd6... the Nd5 is currently immune since the Bf7 is pinned. So Kg8?

unfortunately the Ng3 can't join the attack.

I'll post this, then come back. Its white to move at 50 23 mins, black
has 31.

PI












 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 08:57:03
From:
Subject: Re: Kamsky Topalov live rap

> white develops with tempo attacks against the Black Q at the expense
> of a pawn - instead of my brilliant plan of inning the d6 pawn
>
> 29. Rd2
> i wonder if black will play Rc8? bl 37 mins, white 28 mins ticking
>
> Anyway, that's enough for now

gata doubled his rooks against d6 but toppy dropped a knight back to
the back row, then advanced a pawn to b4 stranding the white Bish on
a5, stopping it from ganging up on d6

After black's 30th 30 mins, white ticking has 24 - botyh player s no
doubt calculating what happens on Nd5, and indeed if black plays Qb5
collecting the Ba5

Gata has 22 mins and 10 moves to play before the time control -
materially one pawn down. does he have to play Bd3? 19 mins.

he played Qe2 instead, in order to prevent black's Qb5 - the Q moved
attacks a loose black pawn at a6, [not immediately available to pluck
beacuse of Ra7] but also reduces the tension on the K side. B=29 W=18
mins

i am now looking at 'ridiculous' moves, such as gh!?!? which doesn't
quite work at the moment. Rd7 seems solid enough. Rb7 gains nothing
after Bd3.

anyway, toppy taking much time here, now down to 23 mins. He has
played 31. Kh8 removing it from the diagonal of the Bc2, and also from
any immediate check hxg6+

gata has to make 10 moves in 16 minutes. at least temporarily he has
given up on the k side to try to oppress the middle.
A move! Bd3, which was indicated [as above]

Toppy takes the opportunity of the temporarily blocked d file to play
Na7 for Nc6 getting the Ba5. Quickly comes back Rc1 - white now
threatens to win the a6 pawn.

i wonder if toppy CAN play Nd7 and f5? BUT HE CHOSE NB5, then Bxb5,
ab, Bb4, looking at thr d6 pawn - material is now equal on the board,
black thinking 16 white 14

Rd7 or Ne8?

Rd7 played...

Gata with 13 minutes is now better for the first time in the game,
though black has the two Bishops, neither are effective at the moment.

A rook goes to c6 attacking d6 a third time, and perhaps planning to
double on the c file

36... Rfd8 and black could add a 4th defender with Ne8 and a fifth
with Bf8

maybe Gata will try Rdc2 ? occupying d5 seems to liberate the black B
on g7 after captures.

37. Qd1 requiring another defender of the d6 pawn, but what more can
white get from this position? black is entirely on the defensive, but
where is any breakthrough

white thinking 6 min 30, black 11 mins after move 37B

38 Qc2 giving up the h pawn, if black wants it, now that the B is on
f8, no nasty rook can occupy the half open g file interesting that
Kamsky played Qc2 instead of c1, this allows a redeployment of the N
on g3 which doesn't have to guard e4 anymore

[[Susan is very happy with Gata's game - she says "36...Rfd8 Gata has
an excellent chance to convert this game. This is his best chance of
the match so far. Topalov's problems all started with 31...Kh8. 37.Nd5
is worth a look here.

37.Qd1 Bf8 += Gata has perhaps around 7 minutes for the last 3 moves.
I still like parking the Knight on d5."]]

Apparently Topalov agrees - so he has put his K back to h7 to add a
defender to the g pawn - otherwise occupying d5 would after exchanges
leave the g6 pawn underdefended

anyway a flurry of moves then relieve the time tension and both
players make the time control

Gata also pulls off a little tactical stunt attacking the black queen
and also ganging up on the d6 pawn - cool sequence! -

Toppy is doing a deep think at move 42 in order to save the game - he
is now a pawn down

i'll post this now expecting to see 1-0 later

Phil Innes


























 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 07:55:03
From:
Subject: Re: Kamsky Topalov live rap

> Okay 23, Ne3 at 1hr 4 mins which offers up the e pawn, both players
> must have been calculating this move - indeed Toppy immediately plays
> Kh7
>
> gata's clock is ticking at 1hr 02

a 10 minute think produced the vigorous-looking 24. Qf3, eyeing f5 and
the single-guarded N on f6. Off-hand that seems like a strong move,
andf Topalov 'undeveloped his QB to c8 to meet it. I think White is
suffering from having insufficient pieces to pursue an attack, but
certainly the clumsy manoevre Kh2 Rh1 Kg1 could occur - meanwhile
black has opportunities to clear the center via d5 in some positions.

here we go again, the biggest think so far, now at 44 minutes and
ticking [if digital clocks can be said to tick - how do you say it?]

i really don't see any much opportunity for black or white to strike,
and the game may hinge on white keeping the black pieces locked up
against k-side threats, otherwise white's slower development will tell
against him - 41 mins, that's a 20 minute think...

Looking at Susan's Blog she made a comment 25 minutes ago

"23...Kh7 Topalov is playing cautiously. 23...d5 is a lot more
aggressive. "

now d5 is not immediately on, or not possible for black because of his
new K position - but Nc4 is perhaps playable since the black would be
observing the undefended c3 pawn if .. b3. But exchanging a c5 N for
the e3 one would develop the Bc1.

I am just thinking out loud here about general positional features
while Gata's clock ticks down to... 34 mins [remaining average movce
rate needs be a 2 mins/move]

[black, BTW has 45]

White produces Rd1 and black Be6, 26 b3 [keeping the N out of c4, and
preparing Ba3 looking at the backward d pawn - Toppy quickly accepts
the sac of the c 3 pawn, 26. Qxc3

Susan Polgar thought "25...Be6 An interesting idea is 26.Bb3 Bxb3
27.axb3 and White has a better game with Black's weak a6 pawn. Black
basically has to retreat Bishop to c8."

white [ticking 31 mins
black 40 mins

27 Bd2 Qc7
28 Ba5 Qb8

white develops with tempo attacks against the Black Q at the expense
of a pawn - instead of my brilliant plan of inning the d6 pawn

29. Rd2
i wonder if black will play Rc8? bl 37 mins, white 28 mins ticking

Anyway, that's enough for now




 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 06:59:36
From:
Subject: Re: Kamsky Topalov live rap

> As predicted Bg7 was followed by 20. h5. I wonder if Toppy wants to
> play Rf8 so on an exchange he will obtain a healthy half-open file?
>
> white 1 hr 20 black ticking 1hr 11
>
> Gosh, I'm good! 20. ...Rf8 at 1hr 09
>
> now... how does white continue - full scale onslaught with f4 seems
> unready as yet, gata is 10 mins ahead on time at the half way stage.

a conservative path for white would be to develop more, with Bd2 or
Be3, maybe Be3 and Qd2, but these require the preppratory b3 to keep
the Nb6 out

the h5 pawn seems immune because on gh White has Nf5 which would be
winning

gata has so far spent 6 mins on this move - good grief! He has played
21. Nhf1 ... possibly looking at Ne3 and the sac Nf5

enterprising, but too slow? can black involve his Q side N & B in the
game? immediate Nc4 can be driven away by b3

toppy is taking lots of time here, about 10 minutes - i wonder if he
will try the piece for 2 pawns sac against d5? but first wants to
safeguard his g6 pawn?

no sac, but 21. ...c6 challenging d5 black has 59 mins, white ticking
has 1hr 13. Quick moves 22.dc and Qxc6 ...

white seems to have lost momentum with that Nf1, and then obliged
black by freeing up his pieces, space, and allowing generation of a
counter attack

some similarities here to a Pelikan sicilian, with a d6 pawn and e5
pawn, a hole on d5 controlled by white - perhaops the game will now
shirt to the center if white contests that further with Nd3 also
eyeing f5.

white has to take some care because the QB and Q currently make a
battery against g2, blocked only by pawn e4 - and so counterplay
tactics against the e pawn could become viable.

black is now better developped than white, the white QB and Qr still
on their home squarees.

Okay 23, Ne3 at 1hr 4 mins which offers up the e pawn, both players
must have been calculating this move - indeed Toppy immediately plays
Kh7

gata's clock is ticking at 1hr 02









 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 06:31:50
From:
Subject: Re: Kamsky Topalov live rap

> I don't know what Gata is looking at, the pawn sac h5 doesn't appear
> to offer enough
>
> White to move 1hr 23, black has 1hr 22

How Interesting: Meanwhile Susan Polgar says:

"18...Qd7 A surprising move which I did not anticipate. I do not like
it. White can now safely play 19.h5. Black is basically daring White
to do it. 19. h5 Qg4 20. hxg6 fxg6 += I prefer White."

Ah!

But Gata played 19. Nh2 which renews the threat of h5, this time not
as a gambit.

As predicted Bg7 was followed by 20. h5. I wonder if Toppy wants to
play Rf8 so on an exchange he will obtain a healthy half-open file?

white 1 hr 20 black ticking 1hr 11

Gosh, I'm good! 20. ...Rf8 at 1hr 09

now... how does white continue - full scale onslaught with f4 seems
unready as yet, gata is 10 mins ahead on time at the half way stage.
PI







 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 06:14:12
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Subject: Re: Kamsky Topalov live rap
> Game 4 is into a somewhat standard Ruy at move 16: C92
>
> Both players have same amount of time; 1 hr 37. No fireworks from
> either player yet. White is trying 12 Ng5 which Susan Polgar says is
> still book, though a less usual line.


> Anybody else is welcome to join this rap, currently after black's move
> 17.

There it goes - at 18 white has played h4 to begin the assault of the
black king. Black has spent 5 minutes seeking a plan - and what do
you do? Hunker down or seek counter chances? Opening the center will
favor Kamsky's B on c2, and Q side chances look to be slower than
Whites K side attack.

Perhaps Topalov can demonstrate to all of us how to gain counter
initiative [which suits his own style of mixing it up] - though
strategically that favors Kamsky in terms of match score
opportunities.

After 10 minutes Toppy played 18. ... Qd7, clearing the back rank for
the Ra8 and also observing the Kside squares f5, g4 h3

currently there is a black R on e7, B on f8 which could go to g7, then
the Ra8 has options of e8 or f8

I don't know what Gata is looking at, the pawn sac h5 doesn't appear
to offer enough

White to move 1hr 23, black has 1hr 22

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