Main Date: 25 Jun 2008 05:19:02 From: samsloan Subject: Mottershead Chess Foundation announces 10.5 Million Dollar The following Press Release has been received from the Mottershead Chess Foundation: I am pleased to announce a 10.5 million Dollar contribution to chess by the Mottershead Chess Foundation. The contribution will take the form of subscriptions for 2000 USCF-rated players to a top chess web- site, which I am going to start in the next year or two. This web site is going to be great! It will be inspiring, educational, and funny. Everybody is going to love it! The subscriptions have been valued at $250 per year by a leading chess web-site subscription evaluator (me), and we are glad to be able to underwrite this wonderful new program for supporting chess for the next twenty-one years. Due to the fact that all the good domain names are taken, the site will have a somewhat long domain name; "you-cant-fool-chess-but-chess- can-fool-you.com".   Date: 03 Jul 2008 08:56:21 From: Vance Subject: Re: Please stop harassing and defaming me On 29, 4:14=A0pm, Frisco Del Rosario <fri...@appleisp.netNO > wrote: > In article > <a570cc95-84ee-4367-bdb4-d71d8d909...@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, > > =A0Vance <Vance.L...@gmail.com> wrote: > > if > > you like coffee, I'd be up for getting together. =A0Sam if you come up > > to San Francisco. > > Sure. That would make it much easier to conspire than having to leave > coded messages on newsgroups. Yep. It's much easier to conspire in person and coffee provides that intellectual stimulus needed for good planning. Besides, the decoder rings we are using to further the conspiracy leaves that tacky green ring on the skin.   Date: 02 Jul 2008 14:24:18 From: help bot Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP On Jul 2, 4:20 am, nobody <mas...@bleakhouse.com > wrote: > > > > Yes Neil, & paradoxically it would likely be his detractors who'd fret & > > > > suffer the greatest sense of loss were he to make good on his threat. > > > > Innes, for all his froth & blunder & moral certitude is well regarded > > > > here by many on rgc*.. > > Did ya ever notice how all these "survey results" > > never have a link to the actual data, how they all > > seem to pop up from out of thin air-- thin, billowy > > smoky air, without real substance? > Nah, can't say I have helpnot. What exact survey did you have in mind? The "many here on rgc" in the paragraph preceding my comment. Do you often have this sort of trouble following along? > > I fondly recall > > the days when Nick Bourbaki used to recite such > > "surveys" in support of his every whim, on any > > and every subject under the sun. > Ah, yes. Dear old Nick (I hear he's Mugabe's Who is Mugabe? And is he imaginary, or real? > right hand man these days) > but wasn't his refrain more along the lines of _distinguished academics, > historians of impeccable repute & vip's in general_ are all in universal > agreement with me on this? "On this"? No, he never said anything like that. It was Mr. Bourbaki's decided habit to maintain that everyone of any importance whatever always agreed with him *on everything* -- quite a different matter I would say, as it reveals a serious mental illness (or an obvious poser). > > Alas, when > > asked why he could not provide links to the > > sources of his "surveys", the poor chap always > > went mum. > As I recall - yawn, he used to fill reams & reams of computer-paper > getting his point across - yawn. Maybe he was just ignoring the stupids > which sometimes is'nt a bad idea.. True enough, he did seem to ignore posters like PI, but he got into dreadful disputes with folks like LP. Come to think of it, LP often gets into disputes over wars long past; he can't seem to get past the trauma of it all. > > An objective look at the posters here in rgc > > (which of course excludes lurkers of all kinds) > Ah! but lurkers are the audience & include all manner of important > people - street-sweepers, the homeless, Nick Bourbaki & so on. How many > rgc lurkers would you estimate (not survey) are out there bot 10.000 - > 12.000?.. I have no clue, apart from random numbers of "hits" reported by Google-- but those aren't necessarily newsgroup readers, for merely "googleing" some word (like say, chess) can register as a "hit". > > would reveal that nearly-IMnes has perhaps > > three supporters in total: Rob Mitchell, who > > adores him from afar, Larry Parr, who employs > > him as his toad-eater, and of course, his most > > loyal fan of all: himself. ( I think I am being > > quite generous to include PI here, beefing up > > the total by a full 50%. Let's just say I'm a > > nice guy.) > Not today you're not & anyway you forgot that nice David Richerby.. I did? Are you suggesting that DR is an ardent supporter of Dr. IMnes? Why didn't I get the memo? There should have been a memo-- how else are we to know? > > I think it's fair to say that, far from fretting > > and suffering the loss of our nearly-an-IM > > were he to disappear into the ether, many > > of his critics would be "freed" to discuss > > chess in a more rational manner. They > > would be so freed by the fact that all the > > time now wasted on Sir IMnes could, and > > likely would, be re-directed to other things. > Well perhaps & of course nobody is indispensable but I fear just sitting > around & discussing chess in a rational fashion could become a trifle > boring & it seems to me also that much of the aggro in this group has > little or nothing to do with chess per se but much to do with, em, how > shall I put this - literary acumen & it's attendant jealousies - yeah, > that should do.. Don't forget that we would still have posters like Sam Sloan and Larry Parr to keep the irrational talk going. Personally, I don't think PI smart enough to even realize he is deficient in those areas you mention; he's not capable of ascertaining his inferior status, which might lead to some feelings of jealousy on his part. > > Mr. Parr could easily employ some other > > toad-eater, and as for Mr. Mitchell-- he > > would have more time for chess lessons > > (which he desperately needs). No, I think > > that fellow was definitely wrong: it looks > > like a win/win situation to me. That about sums it up. -- help bot   Date: 02 Jul 2008 18:20:03 From: nobody Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP help bot wrote: > > On Jul 1, 11:30 pm, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > And in less than 24 hours, P Innes was back from self-imposed exile. > > > > Yes Neil, & paradoxically it would likely be his detractors who'd fret & > > > suffer the greatest sense of loss were he to make good on his threat. > > > Innes, for all his froth & blunder & moral certitude is well regarded > > > here by many on rgc*.. > > Did ya ever notice how all these "survey results" > never have a link to the actual data, how they all > seem to pop up from out of thin air-- thin, billowy > smoky air, without real substance? Nah, can't say I have helpnot. What exact survey did you have in mind? I wasn't aware any survey had taken place. Are you yourself engaged in some sort of survey here? It's a bit like statistics really, not the most accurate & open to interpretation. I mean, if you must have perfection you can always go & play with your 'rybka' toy.. > I fondly recall > the days when Nick Bourbaki used to recite such > "surveys" in support of his every whim, on any > and every subject under the sun. Ah, yes. Dear old Nick (I hear he's Mugabe's right hand man these days) but wasn't his refrain more along the lines of _distinguished academics, historians of impeccable repute & vip's in general_ are all in universal agreement with me on this? That's something but I wouldn't call it a survey.. > Alas, when > asked why he could not provide links to the > sources of his "surveys", the poor chap always > went mum. As I recall - yawn, he used to fill reams & reams of computer-paper getting his point across - yawn. Maybe he was just ignoring the stupids which sometimes is'nt a bad idea.. > It seems as though some folks are > desperate to create an illusion of support, and > in their quests, they resort to fabrications such > as these ethereal "surveys" of public opinion. There's that ugly 'survey' word again bot. You really do seem to have it on the mind today - was it something you ate?.. > An objective look at the posters here in rgc > (which of course excludes lurkers of all kinds) Ah! but lurkers are the audience & include all manner of important people - street-sweepers, the homeless, Nick Bourbaki & so on. How many rgc lurkers would you estimate (not survey) are out there bot 10.000 - 12.000?.. > would reveal that nearly-IMnes has perhaps > three supporters in total: Rob Mitchell, who > adores him from afar, Larry Parr, who employs > him as his toad-eater, and of course, his most > loyal fan of all: himself. ( I think I am being > quite generous to include PI here, beefing up > the total by a full 50%. Let's just say I'm a > nice guy.) Not today you're not & anyway you forgot that nice David Richerby.. > Perhaps there are a few who may confound > nearly-IMnes' blather for genuine "promotion" > of chess. Dullards who might have failed to > notice clues such as his inveterate hypocrisy, > his inability to "deal with" any opinions which > do not match his own (stolen ones). But for > this there can be no excuse. Witness the > fact that Dr. IMnes has apologized for the > lies on the SP Web site by re-characterizing > those lies as what he terms "hyperbole"; in > short, he has no standards; there is no level > below which he will not stoop, as we have > clearly seen. Anyone for conkers? - perfidious albion & all that.. > Even his closest "supporters" > can say nothing in his defense, choosing > instead to observe "radio silence" on such > embarrassing issues. Rather a silent radio than Gilbert & Sullivan is what I say!.. > I think it's fair to say that, far from fretting > and suffering the loss of our nearly-an-IM > were he to disappear into the ether, many > of his critics would be "freed" to discuss > chess in a more rational manner. They > would be so freed by the fact that all the > time now wasted on Sir IMnes could, and > likely would, be re-directed to other things. Well perhaps & of course nobody is indispensable but I fear just sitting around & discussing chess in a rational fashion could become a trifle boring & it seems to me also that much of the aggro in this group has little or nothing to do with chess per se but much to do with, em, how shall I put this - literary acumen & it's attendant jealousies - yeah, that should do.. nobody. > Mr. Parr could easily employ some other > toad-eater, and as for Mr. Mitchell-- he > would have more time for chess lessons > (which he desperately needs). No, I think > that fellow was definitely wrong: it looks > like a win/win situation to me. > > -- help bot   Date: 01 Jul 2008 21:31:42 From: help bot Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP On Jul 1, 11:30 pm, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > And in less than 24 hours, P Innes was back from self-imposed exile. > > Yes Neil, & paradoxically it would likely be his detractors who'd fret & > > suffer the greatest sense of loss were he to make good on his threat. > > Innes, for all his froth & blunder & moral certitude is well regarded > > here by many on rgc*.. Did ya ever notice how all these "survey results" never have a link to the actual data, how they all seem to pop up from out of thin air-- thin, billowy smoky air, without real substance? I fondly recall the days when Nick Bourbaki used to recite such "surveys" in support of his every whim, on any and every subject under the sun. Alas, when asked why he could not provide links to the sources of his "surveys", the poor chap always went mum. It seems as though some folks are desperate to create an illusion of support, and in their quests, they resort to fabrications such as these ethereal "surveys" of public opinion. An objective look at the posters here in rgc (which of course excludes lurkers of all kinds) would reveal that nearly-IMnes has perhaps three supporters in total: Rob Mitchell, who adores him from afar, Larry Parr, who employs him as his toad-eater, and of course, his most loyal fan of all: himself. ( I think I am being quite generous to include PI here, beefing up the total by a full 50%. Let's just say I'm a nice guy.) Perhaps there are a few who may confound nearly-IMnes' blather for genuine "promotion" of chess. Dullards who might have failed to notice clues such as his inveterate hypocrisy, his inability to "deal with" any opinions which do not match his own (stolen ones). But for this there can be no excuse. Witness the fact that Dr. IMnes has apologized for the lies on the SP Web site by re-characterizing those lies as what he terms "hyperbole"; in short, he has no standards; there is no level below which he will not stoop, as we have clearly seen. Even his closest "supporters" can say nothing in his defense, choosing instead to observe "radio silence" on such embarrassing issues. I think it's fair to say that, far from fretting and suffering the loss of our nearly-an-IM were he to disappear into the ether, many of his critics would be "freed" to discuss chess in a more rational manner. They would be so freed by the fact that all the time now wasted on Sir IMnes could, and likely would, be re-directed to other things. Mr. Parr could easily employ some other toad-eater, and as for Mr. Mitchell-- he would have more time for chess lessons (which he desperately needs). No, I think that fellow was definitely wrong: it looks like a win/win situation to me. -- help bot   Date: 01 Jul 2008 20:30:43 From: The Historian Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP On 30, 11:36 pm, nobody <mas...@bleakhouse.com > wrote: > The Historian wrote: > > . > > > On e 28, at 2:39 PM, "Chess One" wrote: > > > "So... so long...." > > > And in less than 24 hours, P Innes was back from self-imposed exile. > > Yes Neil, & paradoxically it would likely be his detractors who'd fret & > suffer the greatest sense of loss were he to make good on his threat. > Innes, for all his froth & blunder & moral certitude is well regarded > here by many on rgc*.. The group seemed to get along well without him on previous 'departures.' I certainly didn't miss him.   Date: 30 Jun 2008 23:49:02 From: help bot Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP On 30, 6:01 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com > wrote: > Here is another nutty rant by Phil Innes. He writes, among other > things: > > "I shall perforce need do it again, since his vile speculations are > nothing I need, and while this person would never have the balls to > say so to my face, here he rules a little group of like minded woman- > haters, and will voluntarily mention people's wives," > > Nobody here on this or any other group that I know of has ever > mentioned the "wife" or the "family" of Phil Innes. I suspect that > Innes has a "wife" and "family" in much the same was that Ray Gordon > has a bevy of hot women lusting after his body. In that respect, Flash (Gordon) seems to have the better imagination. I would much rather imagine "a bevy of hot women lusting after my body" than a plain old wife (who may or may not, depending; probably not, now that I think about it; it is obvious that my imaginary wife would desire, not me, but my money! I demand a divorce). Were it not for the fact that nearly-an-IM Innes is crazy, we might believe such a story and feel some sort of sympathy; but as it is, the fact that the lunatic continues to pollute rgc with his um, "contributions", reveals that his predicament is not what he claims; after all, he could easily just go away, but he seems to like it here! It reminds me of Skip Repa-- even the bursts of slobbering and violent cursing. Maybe the FBI will "protect" Sir IMnes' imaginary family from all those folks who are out to get him? Or maybe his 2450 rating and FIDE title will scare them off? Maybe the "Andeans" will save him. Or, what if the aliens who left him here on Earth come back and pick him up? You know, the ones in the white coats. -- help bot (Yes, Dear. I'm turning the computer off right now. In a minute, Honey. No, you don't look fat.)   Date: 01 Jul 2008 14:36:16 From: nobody Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP The Historian wrote: . > On e 28, at 2:39 PM, "Chess One" wrote: > > "So... so long...." > > And in less than 24 hours, P Innes was back from self-imposed exile. Yes Neil, & paradoxically it would likely be his detractors who'd fret & suffer the greatest sense of loss were he to make good on his threat. Innes, for all his froth & blunder & moral certitude is well regarded here by many on rgc*..   Date: 30 Jun 2008 05:55:18 From: The Historian Subject: Re: Mottershead Chess Foundation announces 10.5 Million Dollar On 30, 4:45 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com > wrote: > If you go back tohttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/msg/faba1edac... > > you will see a series of postings by Phil Innes from January-February, > 2003 where he complains about to threats by posters to the "women" of > his "family". One of them is this: > > "The gentleman of whom you spoke posted my home phone number directly > to this newsgroup in response to the vilest poster I have ever > encountered - who then repeated it ad nauseum with various threats and > comments to the women of my family." > > Of course, none of this was true. Nobody posted the home phone number > of Phil Innes and even if he did there would have been nothing wrong > with that since the number of Innes in Vermont was listed with > switchboard.com . Also nobody threatened the women in his family if > indeed there are any. > > After a series of these threatening remarks by Phil Innes, he dropped > out of this group for several months. It has been suggested that > somebody here complained to his ISP and accordingly his ISP banned him > from posting. > > Sam Sloan I received correspondence from a person with sover.net, P Innes' ISP, that they were going to speak to their "client" about P Innes' newsgroup postings. In particular, it was a posting which challenged Mike Nolan to post his address. There was something about the headers of the post that violated the ISP's terms of service. I cannot say for sure that P Innes' ISP forced him to withdraw from the newsgroups, but perhaps P Innes thought it prudent to do so voluntarily.   Date: 30 Jun 2008 03:07:26 From: samsloan Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP On 30, 6:01 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com > wrote: > On 28, 3:39 pm, "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > "The Historian" <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:e44b21b9-cde4-4cb5-97e0-fd103699c346@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > > >> >> Sam Sloan > > > >> > Here's what happens when P Innes contacts the FBI: > > > >> That's not what happened. If Brennen wants to continue to profile himself > > >> as > > >> a hater, as a satirist that is his business. I look after my own. > > > >> Brennen as well as Sloan incited disgusting comments today - toward me > > >> and > > >> family. Brennen thinks he is immune, this mocking of American social > > >> standards is noted as part of his pattern of hate-speech. For Sloan, it > > >> is > > >> his only means to gain celebrity. > > > >> Brennen suggested I wrote filth about my own family when > > > >> wowa! > > > >> the anon who /only/ followed his posts wrote filth about them. > > > > Actually, he followed the posts of P Innes. That seemed to be the > > > point, wasn't it? > > > >> That is the sort of character you got here, and now in Chess Life! and > > >> they > > >> are happy to have him ;( > > > >> All I did was stick up for the ladies, then and now - and nor Slaon and > > >> Brennen show you all their /public/ orientation. Imagine their private > > >> stuff! > > > >> Ker-ist, is some other idiot thinks this is a 'disagreement', then > > >> imagine > > >> the same happening to them and who they love. > > > >> At length I voluntarily withdrew from this newsgroup, [not from others] > > >> to > > >> protect my family. > > > > After another four months of threatening folks here in the newsgroup, > > > and complaints to his ISP sover.net, that is. P Innes 'withdrew' > > > The results of what //Brennen// wrote to my ISP about my resentment to the > > person who followed his own posts - only his posts - was the reason for my > > withdrawal. > > > I shall perforce need do it again, since his vile speculations are nothing I > > need, and while this person would never have the balls to say so to my face, > > here he rules a little group of like minded woman-haters, and will > > voluntarily mention people's wives, ably supported by the Sloan and his own > > disgusting coterie of enthusiasts for 'freedom!, and God knows who else has > > chipped in with their comments on how ignorable a little fascism is these > > days. > > > So...so long, and if you can, mention some chess now and again. More now > > than again. That is the best antedote. I will take this issue elsewhere > > since I say again, this is the public stance some people make, not the whole > > story. And I think, in time, the wheels grind fine. > > > In the meatime I must resent such affronts to my family by not seeming to > > discourse with shite who don't care what they say. > > > Phil Innes > > > > pretty quickly once sover.net informed me they were going to speak to > > > their 'client' about his newsgroup posting practices. In particular, > > > something about the way P Innes altered his newsgroup headers violated > > > their terms of service. > > > > Do a search under P Innes' old posting address, and you will see he > > > was off the newsgroups from February to October 2003. > > > >> Some sad people here think this is very funny, celebrate it, but they > > >> only > > >> 'think' so at a distance, like Sloan does, otherwise can you imagine such > > >> people saying such things about your woman to your face? > > > >> You want vile? These people will give it to you. > > > >> Phil Innes > > > >> > (Offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in Brattleboro, VT, > > >> > 8:00 AM. A couple of middle-aged men are standing drinking from coffee > > >> > mugs. One holds a half-eaten donut in his right hand. A young man > > >> > nervously clutching a briefcase walks in the front door. One of the > > >> > middle-aged men walks towards him.) > > > >> > Middle Aged Man: Agent William E. Spillman? > > > >> > Young Man: Yes, hello, glad to meet you. (He extends his hand and > > >> > drops his briefcase. Papers and pens spill out. Both older men > > >> > suppress a chuckle. The young man shoves paper and pens back into his > > >> > briefcase.) > > > >> > Middle Aged Man: Good morning. Agent Ree Mailer here, that's Agent > > >> > Annon Mouse over there. Welcome to the Brattleboro office, Willie. I > > >> > think you'll like it here in our small town. > > > >> > Spillman: I think I will too. I think I was lucky to get assigned to > > >> > Brattleboro for my first posting out of the academy. > > > >> > Mailer: We have your desk set up for you already. And your phone is > > >> > hooked up too. (Agent Mouse suppresses a giggle as the phone rings.) > > >> > You're on the clock, go get it Spillman! > > > >> > Spillman: (answers phone) Agent Spillman, Brattleboro FBI..... Uh huh. > > >> > Stalking, you say..... chess histories written in blood.... heuch? > > >> > what does Heuch mean?... chess newsgroups.... some guy named Berman, > > >> > is that what you said? Can you spell it? .... No, I wasn't insulting > > >> > you. .... No, I don't hate foreigners.... Calm down Mr Inez.... No, I > > >> > never posted to a newsgroup under the name "Sam Sloan." > > > >> > Mouse (to Mailer): It's cruel to do that to a rookie, put them on the > > >> > Innes phone. No wonder we get along. > > Here is another nutty rant by Phil Innes. He writes, among other > things: > > "I shall perforce need do it again, since his vile speculations are > nothing I need, and while this person would never have the balls to > say so to my face, here he rules a little group of like minded woman- > haters, and will voluntarily mention people's wives," > > Nobody here on this or any other group that I know of has ever > mentioned the "wife" or the "family" of Phil Innes. I suspect that > Innes has a "wife" and "family" in much the same was that Ray Gordon > has a bevy of hot women lusting after his body. > > Sam Sloan Try this one again: Nobody here on this or any other group that I know of has ever mentioned the "wife" or the "family" of Phil Innes. I suspect that Innes has a "wife" and "family" in much the same way that Ray Gordon has a bevy of hot women lusting after his body. Sam Sloan   Date: 30 Jun 2008 03:01:49 From: samsloan Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP On 28, 3:39 pm, "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net > wrote: > "The Historian" <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:e44b21b9-cde4-4cb5-97e0-fd103699c346@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > > > >> >> Sam Sloan > > >> > Here's what happens when P Innes contacts the FBI: > > >> That's not what happened. If Brennen wants to continue to profile himself > >> as > >> a hater, as a satirist that is his business. I look after my own. > > >> Brennen as well as Sloan incited disgusting comments today - toward me > >> and > >> family. Brennen thinks he is immune, this mocking of American social > >> standards is noted as part of his pattern of hate-speech. For Sloan, it > >> is > >> his only means to gain celebrity. > > >> Brennen suggested I wrote filth about my own family when > > >> wowa! > > >> the anon who /only/ followed his posts wrote filth about them. > > > Actually, he followed the posts of P Innes. That seemed to be the > > point, wasn't it? > > >> That is the sort of character you got here, and now in Chess Life! and > >> they > >> are happy to have him ;( > > >> All I did was stick up for the ladies, then and now - and nor Slaon and > >> Brennen show you all their /public/ orientation. Imagine their private > >> stuff! > > >> Ker-ist, is some other idiot thinks this is a 'disagreement', then > >> imagine > >> the same happening to them and who they love. > > >> At length I voluntarily withdrew from this newsgroup, [not from others] > >> to > >> protect my family. > > > After another four months of threatening folks here in the newsgroup, > > and complaints to his ISP sover.net, that is. P Innes 'withdrew' > > The results of what //Brennen// wrote to my ISP about my resentment to the > person who followed his own posts - only his posts - was the reason for my > withdrawal. > > I shall perforce need do it again, since his vile speculations are nothing I > need, and while this person would never have the balls to say so to my face, > here he rules a little group of like minded woman-haters, and will > voluntarily mention people's wives, ably supported by the Sloan and his own > disgusting coterie of enthusiasts for 'freedom!, and God knows who else has > chipped in with their comments on how ignorable a little fascism is these > days. > > So...so long, and if you can, mention some chess now and again. More now > than again. That is the best antedote. I will take this issue elsewhere > since I say again, this is the public stance some people make, not the whole > story. And I think, in time, the wheels grind fine. > > In the meatime I must resent such affronts to my family by not seeming to > discourse with shite who don't care what they say. > > Phil Innes > > > pretty quickly once sover.net informed me they were going to speak to > > their 'client' about his newsgroup posting practices. In particular, > > something about the way P Innes altered his newsgroup headers violated > > their terms of service. > > > Do a search under P Innes' old posting address, and you will see he > > was off the newsgroups from February to October 2003. > > >> Some sad people here think this is very funny, celebrate it, but they > >> only > >> 'think' so at a distance, like Sloan does, otherwise can you imagine such > >> people saying such things about your woman to your face? > > >> You want vile? These people will give it to you. > > >> Phil Innes > > >> > (Offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in Brattleboro, VT, > >> > 8:00 AM. A couple of middle-aged men are standing drinking from coffee > >> > mugs. One holds a half-eaten donut in his right hand. A young man > >> > nervously clutching a briefcase walks in the front door. One of the > >> > middle-aged men walks towards him.) > > >> > Middle Aged Man: Agent William E. Spillman? > > >> > Young Man: Yes, hello, glad to meet you. (He extends his hand and > >> > drops his briefcase. Papers and pens spill out. Both older men > >> > suppress a chuckle. The young man shoves paper and pens back into his > >> > briefcase.) > > >> > Middle Aged Man: Good morning. Agent Ree Mailer here, that's Agent > >> > Annon Mouse over there. Welcome to the Brattleboro office, Willie. I > >> > think you'll like it here in our small town. > > >> > Spillman: I think I will too. I think I was lucky to get assigned to > >> > Brattleboro for my first posting out of the academy. > > >> > Mailer: We have your desk set up for you already. And your phone is > >> > hooked up too. (Agent Mouse suppresses a giggle as the phone rings.) > >> > You're on the clock, go get it Spillman! > > >> > Spillman: (answers phone) Agent Spillman, Brattleboro FBI..... Uh huh. > >> > Stalking, you say..... chess histories written in blood.... heuch? > >> > what does Heuch mean?... chess newsgroups.... some guy named Berman, > >> > is that what you said? Can you spell it? .... No, I wasn't insulting > >> > you. .... No, I don't hate foreigners.... Calm down Mr Inez.... No, I > >> > never posted to a newsgroup under the name "Sam Sloan." > > >> > Mouse (to Mailer): It's cruel to do that to a rookie, put them on the > >> > Innes phone. No wonder we get along. Here is another nutty rant by Phil Innes. He writes, among other things: "I shall perforce need do it again, since his vile speculations are nothing I need, and while this person would never have the balls to say so to my face, here he rules a little group of like minded woman- haters, and will voluntarily mention people's wives," Nobody here on this or any other group that I know of has ever mentioned the "wife" or the "family" of Phil Innes. I suspect that Innes has a "wife" and "family" in much the same was that Ray Gordon has a bevy of hot women lusting after his body. Sam Sloan     Date: 30 Jun 2008 09:20:03 From: Chess One Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP "samsloan" <samhsloan@gmail.com > wrote in message news:012aaa18-68c7-4674-b52c-55760137f3c1@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > Here is another nutty rant by Phil Innes. He writes, among other > things: > > "I shall perforce need do it again, since his vile speculations are > nothing I need, and while this person would never have the balls to > say so to my face, here he rules a little group of like minded woman- > haters, and will voluntarily mention people's wives," > > Nobody here on this or any other group that I know of has ever > mentioned the "wife" or the "family" of Phil Innes. I suspect that > Innes has a "wife" and "family" in much the same was that Ray Gordon > has a bevy of hot women lusting after his body. > > Sam Sloan Another indecently sexual 'suspicion' from Sam McCarthy Sloan, which in its own terms would refute 'vile speculations' while actually demonstrating what they are! --- Elsewhere I address someone who does care for decent public expression - and I say I can tell who they are from what they do, not what they say they do. I suggest this is a poignant differentiation among adults, in fact is a fair working definition of adult behavior. Phil Innes   Date: 30 Jun 2008 02:45:29 From: samsloan Subject: Re: Mottershead Chess Foundation announces 10.5 Million Dollar If you go back to http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/msg/faba1edac6960d40?dmode=source you will see a series of postings by Phil Innes from January-February, 2003 where he complains about to threats by posters to the "women" of his "family". One of them is this: "The gentleman of whom you spoke posted my home phone number directly to this newsgroup in response to the vilest poster I have ever encountered - who then repeated it ad nauseum with various threats and comments to the women of my family." Of course, none of this was true. Nobody posted the home phone number of Phil Innes and even if he did there would have been nothing wrong with that since the number of Innes in Vermont was listed with switchboard.com . Also nobody threatened the women in his family if indeed there are any. After a series of these threatening remarks by Phil Innes, he dropped out of this group for several months. It has been suggested that somebody here complained to his ISP and accordingly his ISP banned him from posting. Sam Sloan   Date: 29 Jun 2008 22:12:24 From: Rob Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP On 29, 11:07 pm, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com > wrote: > On 29, 3:08 pm, "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net> wrote: > > (Snipped usual drivel) > > On e 28, at 2:39 PM, "Chess One" wrote: > > "So... so long...." > > And in less than 24 hours, P Innes was back from self-imposed exile. Really? Is this group RGCM? If so I am as confused as some others.     Date: 30 Jun 2008 08:58:12 From: Chess One Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP "Rob" <robmtchl@gmail.com > wrote in message news:ebdd8295-cb66-4316-be70-7edfeb6636ca@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> On e 28, at 2:39 PM, "Chess One" wrote: >> >> "So... so long...." >> >> And in less than 24 hours, P Innes was back from self-imposed exile. > > Really? Is this group RGCM? If so I am as confused as some others. Dear Rob Mitchell, Its interesting, isn't it, how people who do nothing but comment on others - indecently comment, continue to want their inquiries answered, or audit the terms by which others should write! But just see what happens after this inquiries /are/ answered. You might not find it personally amusing, but even after some substantial doubt was cast on the veracity of what was written at Gotch Chess, a certain person here continued as if nothing had happened! I already refuted Brennen's comment above - which was to voluntarily not write here, and the context whcih was abuse of my family - but I wrote elsewhere on usenet. But liars don't care to represent the truth - and for the perpetrator of abuse to continue to edit what it true about their own part in things, takes the biscuit! I rather suspected a parallel with the FSS material; that those who would indecently speculate [rather than make decent inquiry natural to their curiosity] were not entirely innocent parties! ;) I think this place would be much better off if these massive personal indulgences of their selves and also of any objective truth, by people who make only very rare chessic contributions, would not be indulged on the personality basis in which it is uttered. I sensibly think we could all say goodbye to that. Most people are not strong enough to resist the temptation to indulge themselves this way, especially when someone goes right over the top and mocks other poster's wives, and spectacularly demonstrate nothing but an indecent attention. Those that follow on merely suggest lesser terms of abuse, rather than use any different principal. I think those things could be kissed goodbye too. If USCF want to celebrate those who indulge in vile public behavior by actually publishing them, and it seems they do, then that is a reportable matter, but not here. [ROFL] Not as if the perpetrators of disgusting levels of commentary themselves should audit what is publicly decent. From other mail I cannot determine if USCF even apologised for personnel material showing up in public. I don't mean be responsible for it - I mean just acknowledge and regret it, to be responsible for it would mean acting so that it did not occur again. In terms of truth and lies, I see that yet other material which is board-confidential seems to have wound up with Jerry Hanken, and then wider circulation. In order to verify that, board members themselves need to admit a fault, and rather like here, this is liking asking the perps what's fair? I see that now permission to release this confidential information has been granted to a board member who once again is not asking for things to remain in the dark cave of ChessHut, but is conspicuous in wanting to open up what goes on down there! No wonder people in support of that receive such flak! Regardless of what many write here, their actions demonstrate a contrary attitude and they resent like hell the real net-work being exposed. Though it is impossible to contain such information anyway. Did you say 'a rusty seive'? The leakage from that works both ways. The place to confront this stuff is where people value public decency, and not in a liar's-culture, and not by their own terms - terms which are not only not culturally not acceptable in the USA, many of them are illegal too. Phil Innes   Date: 29 Jun 2008 21:13:15 From: help bot Subject: Re: Mottershead Chess Foundation announces 10.5 Million Dollar samsloan wrote: > Now we can all see that Phil Innes, the number one defender of Polgar > and Truong, is a total nut. Anyone who did not *immediately* kill-file the nearly-an-IM could have seen that as early as, say, 1984 A.D. > Check back to February 2003 under the header "Unpaid Vendors" and you > see many more threatening statements by Phil Innes. Did PI threaten to keep posting in rgc? And if so, was anyone stupid enough to call his bluff? The only threat more frightening would be, I suppose, if PI threatened to actually increase the number of his, um, "contributions" here. As far as I have seen, Sir IMnes has not in any way "defended" Susan Polgar or Paul Truong; instead, he has relied almost entirely upon smearing those who relay messages regarding the fake Sam Sloan, and upon his own hypocrisy regarding such matters as "Justice". /Defense/ is where you shield weaknesses from attacks by the opponent, and Nearly-IMnes is a failure in that regard. -- help bot   Date: 29 Jun 2008 21:07:46 From: The Historian Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP On 29, 3:08 pm, "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net > wrote: (Snipped usual drivel) On e 28, at 2:39 PM, "Chess One" wrote: "So... so long...." And in less than 24 hours, P Innes was back from self-imposed exile.   Date: 29 Jun 2008 20:37:47 From: The Historian Subject: Re: Mottershead Chess Foundation announces 10.5 Million Dollar On 29, 8:40 pm, Rob <robmt...@gmail.com > wrote: > On 28, 2:20 pm, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Was it a highly distinctive looking bike? Anything would stand out > > amid the flocks of Pigeons the Chinese ride. > > This is disgusting and vulgar. But I would not expect more from > Mohammed or Brennen. The brand name of bicycle most commonly ridden in China is called the Pigeon. Nothing vulgar about it.   Date: 29 Jun 2008 19:28:42 From: help bot Subject: Re: Please stop harassing and defaming me Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote: > As the law restricts my ability to respond in kind, or to escalate, my only > recourse is to first request this user stop, and then report it to police if > it continues. I already have several causes of action for a civil lawsuit > at my disposal. Wow. That's really impressive, fella. > The user's purported e-mail address is also bouncing as invalid, so its > postings will be construed as anonymous. Lots of emails are like that; it's a weapon used to defeat spammers like you. > Like the FSS, this poster seems to think it can do this forever without > consequence. You think someone who claims to be so intelligent would know > better. Apparently his ego isn't so evolved. Don't worry, that can be > changed. > -- > -- > Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru > > Finding Your A-Game: > http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html > Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy (FREE!) > The book Neil Strauss and VH-1 STOLE The Pivot From > > Click HERE: for the ORIGINAL pivot chapter: > http://www.cybersheet.com/pivot.pdf > > Here's my Myspace Page: And Pickup Blog (FREE advice) > http://www.myspace.com/snodgrasspublishing > > Don't rely on overexposed, mass-marketed commercial seduction methods which > no longer work. Learn the methods the gurus USE with the money they make > from what they teach. > > Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS: > http://www.dirtyscottsdale.com/?p=1187 > > Beware! VH-1's "The Pickup Artst" was FRAUDULENT. Six of the eight > contestants were actors, and they used PAID TARGETS in the club. The paid > targets got mad when VH-1 said "there are no actors in this club" and ruined > their prromised acting credit. What else has Mystery lied about? As can be seen just above, the majority of your posting was what many folks consider to be spam. You are a spammer, Mr. Parker. In some ways your spam is worse than that of the misguided dimwits you've picked on for "spamming" rgc, because unlike them, you ought to know better. That is, assuming you are *not* a dimwit. (Are you?) -- help bot   Date: 29 Jun 2008 18:44:35 From: Rob Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP On 29, 7:40 pm, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com > wrote: > On 29, 3:08 pm, "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Since they have no shame, nor anyone here a wife nor daughter, then let it > > not bother you, dear reader. > > > Phil Innes > > I have a wife and a daughter but I do not spend any time worrying > about whether Neil Brennen or Frisco Del Rosario or even Phil Innes > might come here and assault or molest them. > > We have police whose job it is to worry about that. > > But, if I was worried about that, I would not blast it all over the > Internet that I was worried about it. > > Sam Sloan > > By the way, is your wife male or female? How much viagra for you and valium for your wife( is she 16 yet?) does it take for you?   Date: 29 Jun 2008 18:40:49 From: Rob Subject: Re: Mottershead Chess Foundation announces 10.5 Million Dollar On 28, 2:20 pm, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com > wrote: > On 28, 6:50 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 28, 5:31 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 28, 3:02 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 27, 10:24 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On 27, 10:13 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 27, 6:53 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 27, 3:42 am, Frisco Del Rosario <fri...@appleisp.netNO> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article <Qr-dnbPcfYS8nfnVnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@comcast.com>, > > > > > > > > "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What is this to you Francisco? Are you a d player too? > > > > > > > > > It's just "Frisco". I was once "nearly a 2200 player". > > > > > > > > > > Try writing on chess and I'll tell you what your rating is, Okay? > > > > > > > > > OK, Phil. Shall I send you a copy of "A First Book of Morphy", or would > > > > > > > > you like a few years of my California Chess Journals? But all of that's > > > > > > > > at least three years old. > > > > > > > > > I'm publishing a weekly bulletin for the Kolty Chess Club Championship > > > > > > > > tournament going on now -- want that? Not the greatest -- for being > > > > > > > > produced weekly -- an experienced journalist like you knows how that > > > > > > > > goes. > > > > > > > > >http://www.friscodelrosario.net/kolty2008_1.pdf > > > > > > > > Do not waste your time and money sending anything to Phil Innes. In > > > > > > > the first place, he will not give you his address, for fear that you > > > > > > > will assault his "wife", or some such nonsense. > > > > > > > > Sam Sloan > > > > > > > Be very careful in corresponding with Phil Innes. > > > > > > > A few years ago, if you check the archives to this group, you will see > > > > > > that Innes complained strenuously when somebody here revealed the name > > > > > > of the small town in Vermont where he lives. > > > > > > > Innes wrote that, with this knowledge, somebody might come to his town > > > > > > and assault his "wife" and his other family members. > > > > > > > Innes wrote that he had complained to the police and to the FBI and > > > > > > other law enforcement authorities about this security breech. > > > > > > > Sam Sloan > > > > > > Here's what happens when P Innes contacts the FBI: > > > > > > (Offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in Brattleboro, VT, > > > > > 8:00 AM. A couple of middle-aged men are standing drinking from coffee > > > > > mugs. One holds a half-eaten donut in his right hand. A young man > > > > > nervously clutching a briefcase walks in the front door. One of the > > > > > middle-aged men walks towards him.) > > > > > > Middle Aged Man: Agent William E. Spillman? > > > > > > Young Man: Yes, hello, glad to meet you. (He extends his hand and > > > > > drops his briefcase. Papers and pens spill out. Both older men > > > > > suppress a chuckle. The young man shoves paper and pens back into his > > > > > briefcase.) > > > > > > Middle Aged Man: Good morning. Agent Ree Mailer here, that's Agent > > > > > Annon Mouse over there. Welcome to the Brattleboro office, Willie. I > > > > > think you'll like it here in our small town. > > > > > > Spillman: I think I will too. I think I was lucky to get assigned to > > > > > Brattleboro for my first posting out of the academy. > > > > > > Mailer: We have your desk set up for you already. And your phone is > > > > > hooked up too. (Agent Mouse suppresses a giggle as the phone rings.) > > > > > You're on the clock, go get it Spillman! > > > > > > Spillman: (answers phone) Agent Spillman, Brattleboro FBI..... Uh huh. > > > > > Stalking, you say..... chess histories written in blood.... heuch? > > > > > what does Heuch mean?... chess newsgroups.... some guy named Berman, > > > > > is that what you said? Can you spell it? .... No, I wasn't insulting > > > > > you. .... No, I don't hate foreigners.... Calm down Mr Inez.... No, I > > > > > never posted to a newsgroup under the name "Sam Sloan." > > > > > > Mouse (to Mailer): It's cruel to do that to a rookie, put them on the > > > > > Innes phone. No wonder we get along. > > > > > I thought this was rather good. Could you develop this idea? Perhaps > > > > we could make it into a part of a real movie. > > > > > Sam Sloan > > > > "Tales of the Brattleboro FBI?" > > > > While on the subject, here's a Brattleboro man who REALLY needed help > > > from the authorities: > > > >http://luckycornflake.blogspot.com/ > > > > I wonder if he knows the Brattleboro Bedlam? > > > Amazing, now that the guy has made his bike famous by writing about it > > on his blog, he is selling it on eBay and the bids have risen to $225. > > > I have a far better and more amazing story than that. > > > In 1985 in Kashgar, Xinjiang, China my bike was stolen. I reported it > > to the police but naturally in a land with a million bicycles and all > > of them look alike I never expected to see it again. > > > Amazingly, a week later, the Chinese police found my bicycle and > > returned it to me. > > > Sam Sloan > > Was it a highly distinctive looking bike? Anything would stand out > amid the flocks of Pigeons the Chinese ride. This is disgusting and vulgar. But I would not expect more from Mohammed or Brennen.   Date: 29 Jun 2008 17:40:43 From: samsloan Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP On 29, 3:08 pm, "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net > wrote: > Since they have no shame, nor anyone here a wife nor daughter, then let it > not bother you, dear reader. > > Phil Innes I have a wife and a daughter but I do not spend any time worrying about whether Neil Brennen or Frisco Del Rosario or even Phil Innes might come here and assault or molest them. We have police whose job it is to worry about that. But, if I was worried about that, I would not blast it all over the Internet that I was worried about it. Sam Sloan By the way, is your wife male or female?     Date: 30 Jun 2008 09:27:36 From: Chess One Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP "samsloan" <samhsloan@gmail.com > wrote in message news:042cf0bf-693a-48c2-b11c-ddc37ebea784@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... > On 29, 3:08 pm, "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Since they have no shame, nor anyone here a wife nor daughter, then let >> it >> not bother you, dear reader. >> >> Phil Innes > > I have a wife and a daughter but I do not spend any time worrying > about whether Neil Brennen or Frisco Del Rosario or even Phil Innes > might come here and assault or molest them. > > We have police whose job it is to worry about that. > > But, if I was worried about that, I would not blast it all over the > Internet that I was worried about it. > > Sam Sloan > > By the way, is your wife male or female? More VILE peculations! The idiot-Sloan wrote in message news:012aaa18-68c7-4674-b52c-55760137f3c1@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... "Nobody here on this or any other group that I know of has ever mentioned the "wife" or the "family" of Phil Innes." And then doesn't notice that he does so himself. -- I mention this because the terms of the game are changed - and it is sufficient to point out the lies that people commit about what they say of themselves and what they do. If people will volunteer this stuff in public - pftt! What will they not do elsewhere? This is why their views on the subjects of their own abuse should not be taken into council at all - and also why others should be informed of their actual behaviors. -- After substantial support has been recently volunteered to identify and then eliminate these views from American chess. This reporting is of now being conducted elsewhere. Phil Innes       Date: 02 Jul 2008 07:29:28 From: nobody Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP Chess One wrote: . > After substantial support has been recently volunteered to identify and then > eliminate these views from American chess. This reporting is of now being > conducted elsewhere. Gawd! - talk about pot/kettle, resurgent macarthyism, armbands & the 4am door-knock. Clearly wowser-dom can only handle so much usenet & once a line is crossed repression is the order of the day. What was it I said earlier about these insidious scum? Oh! never mind. Their sick craving to clap the mockers on, to moderate, control & nannify the people's wish to freely communicate, will, in a sane world, ultimately prove barren.. nobody.         Date: 02 Jul 2008 09:36:36 From: Chess One Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP "nobody" <master@bleakhouse.com > wrote in message news:486AA1B8.69B8@bleakhouse.com... > Chess One wrote: > > . >> After substantial support has been recently volunteered to identify and >> then >> eliminate these views from American chess. This reporting is of now being >> conducted elsewhere. > > Gawd! - talk about pot/kettle, resurgent macarthyism, armbands & the 4am > door-knock. Clearly wowser-dom can only handle so much usenet & once a > line is crossed repression is the order of the day. What was it I said > earlier about these insidious scum? Oh! never mind. Their sick craving > to clap the mockers on, to moderate, control & nannify the people's wish > to freely communicate, will, in a sane world, ultimately prove barren.. Gawd indeed! But I am afraid that your alarums are unwarranted ones, no-one here is restricted from saying anything they please! the perps just don't get to shout down the agenda, and abuse those who actually want to discuss issues - that's all - if the perps object, go pound sand! if repressing a topic by these means is viewed as to 'freely communicate in a same world', then it seems like abusers have taken this resource and ensured it is of little worth anyone can have a go at discussing an issue - or at least determine if they can - you just have to sort out what people say of themselves from how they actually behave Phil Innes > nobody.   Date: 29 Jun 2008 08:55:24 From: Vance Subject: Re: Please stop harassing and defaming me On 28, 6:15=A0pm, Frisco Del Rosario <fri...@appleisp.netNO > wrote: > In article <QLKdnfDnX7MtQPvVnZ2dnUVZ_uLin...@pghconnect.com>, > > The user's purported e-mail address is also bouncing as invalid, so its > > postings will be construed as anonymous. > > How stupid can you be, Gordon Roy? > > The bit that says fri...@appleisp.netNOOOOO? Take off the NO part. Have > you Googled "Frisco Del Rosario" to see how "anonymous" I am? Have you > tried the phone directory for San Mateo, California? > San Mateo? I was born and raised there. Born at Mills Hospital and Bapatized at St. Mathews. Nice town. It's changed a lot, though, since I was a kid. Sometimes I have a photo shoot in the area and, if you like coffee, I'd be up for getting together. Sam if you come up to San Francisco. Vance     Date: 29 Jun 2008 16:14:34 From: Frisco Del Rosario Subject: Re: Please stop harassing and defaming me In article <a570cc95-84ee-4367-bdb4-d71d8d90999c@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com >, Vance <Vance.Lear@gmail.com > wrote: > if > you like coffee, I'd be up for getting together. Sam if you come up > to San Francisco. Sure. That would make it much easier to conspire than having to leave coded messages on newsgroups.   Date: 28 Jun 2008 13:08:05 From: samsloan Subject: Re: Mottershead Chess Foundation announces 10.5 Million Dollar On 28, 1:09 pm, "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net > wrote: > "samsloan" <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:93be5fa6-c639-4709-87e4-2a1e47f5184f@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On 27, 6:53 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 27, 3:42 am, Frisco Del Rosario <fri...@appleisp.netNO> wrote: > > >> > In article <Qr-dnbPcfYS8nfnVnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@comcast.com>, > >> > "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net> wrote: > > >> > > What is this to you Francisco? Are you a d player too? > > >> > It's just "Frisco". I was once "nearly a 2200 player". > > >> > > Try writing on chess and I'll tell you what your rating is, Okay? > > >> > OK, Phil. Shall I send you a copy of "A First Book of Morphy", or would > >> > you like a few years of my California Chess Journals? But all of that's > >> > at least three years old. > > >> > I'm publishing a weekly bulletin for the Kolty Chess Club Championship > >> > tournament going on now -- want that? Not the greatest -- for being > >> > produced weekly -- an experienced journalist like you knows how that > >> > goes. > > >> >http://www.friscodelrosario.net/kolty2008_1.pdf > > >> Do not waste your time and money sending anything to Phil Innes. In > >> the first place, he will not give you his address, for fear that you > >> will assault his "wife", or some such nonsense. > > >> Sam Sloan > > > Be very careful in corresponding with Phil Innes. > > > A few years ago, if you check the archives to this group, you will see > > that Innes complained strenuously when somebody here revealed the name > > of the small town in Vermont where he lives. > > Laugh - Brattleboro, Kipling's town! I have referenced it some 100 times. > > "I cannot live where I love best, Bombay or Brattleboro." > - RK > > Gawd - I even invited Rynd/Dowd here for a week's free vacation, when he > really seemed to need one. 2 people know that, both post here. > > > Innes wrote that, with this knowledge, somebody might come to his town > > and assault his "wife" and his other family members. > > You are a slut Sloan. A great big slut. And any man who is a man would > resent anyone assaulting their wife and children. > > > Innes wrote that he had complained to the police and to the FBI and > > other law enforcement authorities about this security breech. > > And this for the record! Internet threats being moderated by FBI. > > And here is our Sam, spinning away, causually dismissing everything decent, > and this is how here choses to celebrate his freedom of speech. > > I rather expect others will enjoy this sort of thing, but they would not > enjoy meeting me. Better then, they write here, than come here. > > Be very careful not to come here Sloan, since you voluntarily raise the > issue of abuse of wife and children, and that is an incitement! > > Phil Innes Now we can all see that Phil Innes, the number one defender of Polgar and Truong, is a total nut. Check back to February 2003 under the header "Unpaid Vendors" and you see many more threatening statements by Phil Innes. Sam Sloan   Date: 28 Jun 2008 12:54:14 From: samsloan Subject: Re: Mottershead Chess Foundation announces 10.5 Million Dollar On 28, 2:20 pm, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com > wrote: > On 28, 6:50 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have a far better and more amazing story than that. > > > In 1985 in Kashgar, Xinjiang, China my bike was stolen. I reported it > > to the police but naturally in a land with a million bicycles and all > > of them look alike I never expected to see it again. > > > Amazingly, a week later, the Chinese police found my bicycle and > > returned it to me. > > > Sam Sloan > > Was it a highly distinctive looking bike? Anything would stand out > amid the flocks of Pigeons the Chinese ride. Not at all. I bought the bike in the local public market in Kashgar, where they buy and sell camels, goats, bikes and other things. I paid 90 Chinese renmenbei for the bike. I wrote down the registration number. It was exactly the same as a million other bikes. I rode it for a month. After I got it back, I went back to the same market were I had bought it and sold it to somebody for 80 renmenbei. So, it cost me only 10 renmenbei to ride a bicycle for a month. This all happened in February 1985. I still know how to bargain in the Uyghur Language. I still use this ability as I have found that there are some Uyghur street vendors in Flushing Queens. Sam Sloan   Date: 28 Jun 2008 12:20:11 From: The Historian Subject: Re: Mottershead Chess Foundation announces 10.5 Million Dollar On 28, 6:50 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com > wrote: > On 28, 5:31 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 28, 3:02 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 27, 10:24 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > On 27, 10:13 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 27, 6:53 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 27, 3:42 am, Frisco Del Rosario <fri...@appleisp.netNO> wrote: > > > > > > > > In article <Qr-dnbPcfYS8nfnVnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@comcast.com>, > > > > > > > "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What is this to you Francisco? Are you a d player too? > > > > > > > > It's just "Frisco". I was once "nearly a 2200 player". > > > > > > > > > Try writing on chess and I'll tell you what your rating is, Okay? > > > > > > > > OK, Phil. Shall I send you a copy of "A First Book of Morphy", or would > > > > > > > you like a few years of my California Chess Journals? But all of that's > > > > > > > at least three years old. > > > > > > > > I'm publishing a weekly bulletin for the Kolty Chess Club Championship > > > > > > > tournament going on now -- want that? Not the greatest -- for being > > > > > > > produced weekly -- an experienced journalist like you knows how that > > > > > > > goes. > > > > > > > >http://www.friscodelrosario.net/kolty2008_1.pdf > > > > > > > Do not waste your time and money sending anything to Phil Innes. In > > > > > > the first place, he will not give you his address, for fear that you > > > > > > will assault his "wife", or some such nonsense. > > > > > > > Sam Sloan > > > > > > Be very careful in corresponding with Phil Innes. > > > > > > A few years ago, if you check the archives to this group, you will see > > > > > that Innes complained strenuously when somebody here revealed the name > > > > > of the small town in Vermont where he lives. > > > > > > Innes wrote that, with this knowledge, somebody might come to his town > > > > > and assault his "wife" and his other family members. > > > > > > Innes wrote that he had complained to the police and to the FBI and > > > > > other law enforcement authorities about this security breech. > > > > > > Sam Sloan > > > > > Here's what happens when P Innes contacts the FBI: > > > > > (Offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in Brattleboro, VT, > > > > 8:00 AM. A couple of middle-aged men are standing drinking from coffee > > > > mugs. One holds a half-eaten donut in his right hand. A young man > > > > nervously clutching a briefcase walks in the front door. One of the > > > > middle-aged men walks towards him.) > > > > > Middle Aged Man: Agent William E. Spillman? > > > > > Young Man: Yes, hello, glad to meet you. (He extends his hand and > > > > drops his briefcase. Papers and pens spill out. Both older men > > > > suppress a chuckle. The young man shoves paper and pens back into his > > > > briefcase.) > > > > > Middle Aged Man: Good morning. Agent Ree Mailer here, that's Agent > > > > Annon Mouse over there. Welcome to the Brattleboro office, Willie. I > > > > think you'll like it here in our small town. > > > > > Spillman: I think I will too. I think I was lucky to get assigned to > > > > Brattleboro for my first posting out of the academy. > > > > > Mailer: We have your desk set up for you already. And your phone is > > > > hooked up too. (Agent Mouse suppresses a giggle as the phone rings.) > > > > You're on the clock, go get it Spillman! > > > > > Spillman: (answers phone) Agent Spillman, Brattleboro FBI..... Uh huh. > > > > Stalking, you say..... chess histories written in blood.... heuch? > > > > what does Heuch mean?... chess newsgroups.... some guy named Berman, > > > > is that what you said? Can you spell it? .... No, I wasn't insulting > > > > you. .... No, I don't hate foreigners.... Calm down Mr Inez.... No, I > > > > never posted to a newsgroup under the name "Sam Sloan." > > > > > Mouse (to Mailer): It's cruel to do that to a rookie, put them on the > > > > Innes phone. No wonder we get along. > > > > I thought this was rather good. Could you develop this idea? Perhaps > > > we could make it into a part of a real movie. > > > > Sam Sloan > > > "Tales of the Brattleboro FBI?" > > > While on the subject, here's a Brattleboro man who REALLY needed help > > from the authorities: > > >http://luckycornflake.blogspot.com/ > > > I wonder if he knows the Brattleboro Bedlam? > > Amazing, now that the guy has made his bike famous by writing about it > on his blog, he is selling it on eBay and the bids have risen to $225. > > I have a far better and more amazing story than that. > > In 1985 in Kashgar, Xinjiang, China my bike was stolen. I reported it > to the police but naturally in a land with a million bicycles and all > of them look alike I never expected to see it again. > > Amazingly, a week later, the Chinese police found my bicycle and > returned it to me. > > Sam Sloan Was it a highly distinctive looking bike? Anything would stand out amid the flocks of Pigeons the Chinese ride.   Date: 28 Jun 2008 11:56:35 From: The Historian Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP On 28, 1:45 pm, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com > wrote: > On 28, 1:21 pm, "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > "The Historian" <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:6374d35a-f625-41b1-b234-d45bf2fe9127@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > > > On 27, 10:13 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On 27, 6:53 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > On 27, 3:42 am, Frisco Del Rosario <fri...@appleisp.netNO> wrote: > > > >> > > In article <Qr-dnbPcfYS8nfnVnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@comcast.com>, > > >> > > "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > >> > > > What is this to you Francisco? Are you a d player too? > > > >> > > It's just "Frisco". I was once "nearly a 2200 player". > > > >> > > > Try writing on chess and I'll tell you what your rating is, Okay? > > > >> > > OK, Phil. Shall I send you a copy of "A First Book of Morphy", or > > >> > > would > > >> > > you like a few years of my California Chess Journals? But all of > > >> > > that's > > >> > > at least three years old. > > > >> > > I'm publishing a weekly bulletin for the Kolty Chess Club > > >> > > Championship > > >> > > tournament going on now -- want that? Not the greatest -- for being > > >> > > produced weekly -- an experienced journalist like you knows how that > > >> > > goes. > > > >> > >http://www.friscodelrosario.net/kolty2008_1.pdf > > > >> > Do not waste your time and money sending anything to Phil Innes. In > > >> > the first place, he will not give you his address, for fear that you > > >> > will assault his "wife", or some such nonsense. > > > >> > Sam Sloan > > > >> Be very careful in corresponding with Phil Innes. > > > >> A few years ago, if you check the archives to this group, you will see > > >> that Innes complained strenuously when somebody here revealed the name > > >> of the small town in Vermont where he lives. > > > >> Innes wrote that, with this knowledge, somebody might come to his town > > >> and assault his "wife" and his other family members. > > > >> Innes wrote that he had complained to the police and to the FBI and > > >> other law enforcement authorities about this security breech. > > > >> Sam Sloan > > > > Here's what happens when P Innes contacts the FBI: > > > That's not what happened. If Brennen wants to continue to profile himself as > > a hater, as a satirist that is his business. I look after my own. > > > Brennen as well as Sloan incited disgusting comments today - toward me and > > family. Brennen thinks he is immune, this mocking of American social > > standards is noted as part of his pattern of hate-speech. For Sloan, it is > > his only means to gain celebrity. > > > Brennen suggested I wrote filth about my own family when > > > wowa! > > > the anon who /only/ followed his posts wrote filth about them. > > Actually, he followed the posts of P Innes. That seemed to be the > point, wasn't it? > > > That is the sort of character you got here, and now in Chess Life! and they > > are happy to have him ;( > > > All I did was stick up for the ladies, then and now - and nor Slaon and > > Brennen show you all their /public/ orientation. Imagine their private > > stuff! > > > Ker-ist, is some other idiot thinks this is a 'disagreement', then imagine > > the same happening to them and who they love. > > > At length I voluntarily withdrew from this newsgroup, [not from others] to > > protect my family. > > After another four months of threatening folks here in the newsgroup, > and complaints to his ISP sover.net, that is. P Innes 'withdrew' > pretty quickly once sover.net informed me they were going to speak to > their 'client' about his newsgroup posting practices. In particular, > something about the way P Innes altered his newsgroup headers violated > their terms of service. > > Do a search under P Innes' old posting address, and you will see he > was off the newsgroups from February to October 2003. From the Google Groups profile of P Innes' old sover.net posting address, edited to fit the screen. Note the big gap: Post Activity Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 1 315 382 2 75 117 155 173 180 128 160 133 162 83 52 103 3 140 44 83 275 186 4 282 158 132     Date: 29 Jun 2008 16:08:19 From: Chess One Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP "The Historian" <neil.thehistorian@gmail.com > wrote in message news:256fecdc-5c5b-4a47-953c-2bfe4496b9a4@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > From the Google Groups profile of P Innes' old sover.net posting > address, edited to fit the screen. Note the big gap: > Post Activity > > Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec > 1 315 382 > 2 75 117 155 173 180 128 160 133 162 83 52 103 > 3 140 44 83 275 186 > 4 282 158 132 > I said Brennen was a stalker - and liar too - and I said he was a hate merchant. He is now a CL author too. Since they have no shame, nor anyone here a wife nor daughter, then let it not bother you, dear reader. Phil Innes   Date: 28 Jun 2008 11:45:14 From: The Historian Subject: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP On 28, 1:21 pm, "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net > wrote: > "The Historian" <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:6374d35a-f625-41b1-b234-d45bf2fe9127@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On 27, 10:13 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 27, 6:53 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > On 27, 3:42 am, Frisco Del Rosario <fri...@appleisp.netNO> wrote: > > >> > > In article <Qr-dnbPcfYS8nfnVnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@comcast.com>, > >> > > "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net> wrote: > > >> > > > What is this to you Francisco? Are you a d player too? > > >> > > It's just "Frisco". I was once "nearly a 2200 player". > > >> > > > Try writing on chess and I'll tell you what your rating is, Okay? > > >> > > OK, Phil. Shall I send you a copy of "A First Book of Morphy", or > >> > > would > >> > > you like a few years of my California Chess Journals? But all of > >> > > that's > >> > > at least three years old. > > >> > > I'm publishing a weekly bulletin for the Kolty Chess Club > >> > > Championship > >> > > tournament going on now -- want that? Not the greatest -- for being > >> > > produced weekly -- an experienced journalist like you knows how that > >> > > goes. > > >> > >http://www.friscodelrosario.net/kolty2008_1.pdf > > >> > Do not waste your time and money sending anything to Phil Innes. In > >> > the first place, he will not give you his address, for fear that you > >> > will assault his "wife", or some such nonsense. > > >> > Sam Sloan > > >> Be very careful in corresponding with Phil Innes. > > >> A few years ago, if you check the archives to this group, you will see > >> that Innes complained strenuously when somebody here revealed the name > >> of the small town in Vermont where he lives. > > >> Innes wrote that, with this knowledge, somebody might come to his town > >> and assault his "wife" and his other family members. > > >> Innes wrote that he had complained to the police and to the FBI and > >> other law enforcement authorities about this security breech. > > >> Sam Sloan > > > Here's what happens when P Innes contacts the FBI: > > That's not what happened. If Brennen wants to continue to profile himself as > a hater, as a satirist that is his business. I look after my own. > > Brennen as well as Sloan incited disgusting comments today - toward me and > family. Brennen thinks he is immune, this mocking of American social > standards is noted as part of his pattern of hate-speech. For Sloan, it is > his only means to gain celebrity. > > Brennen suggested I wrote filth about my own family when > > wowa! > > the anon who /only/ followed his posts wrote filth about them. Actually, he followed the posts of P Innes. That seemed to be the point, wasn't it? > That is the sort of character you got here, and now in Chess Life! and they > are happy to have him ;( > > All I did was stick up for the ladies, then and now - and nor Slaon and > Brennen show you all their /public/ orientation. Imagine their private > stuff! > > Ker-ist, is some other idiot thinks this is a 'disagreement', then imagine > the same happening to them and who they love. > > At length I voluntarily withdrew from this newsgroup, [not from others] to > protect my family. After another four months of threatening folks here in the newsgroup, and complaints to his ISP sover.net, that is. P Innes 'withdrew' pretty quickly once sover.net informed me they were going to speak to their 'client' about his newsgroup posting practices. In particular, something about the way P Innes altered his newsgroup headers violated their terms of service. Do a search under P Innes' old posting address, and you will see he was off the newsgroups from February to October 2003. > Some sad people here think this is very funny, celebrate it, but they only > 'think' so at a distance, like Sloan does, otherwise can you imagine such > people saying such things about your woman to your face? > > You want vile? These people will give it to you. > > Phil Innes > > > (Offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in Brattleboro, VT, > > 8:00 AM. A couple of middle-aged men are standing drinking from coffee > > mugs. One holds a half-eaten donut in his right hand. A young man > > nervously clutching a briefcase walks in the front door. One of the > > middle-aged men walks towards him.) > > > Middle Aged Man: Agent William E. Spillman? > > > Young Man: Yes, hello, glad to meet you. (He extends his hand and > > drops his briefcase. Papers and pens spill out. Both older men > > suppress a chuckle. The young man shoves paper and pens back into his > > briefcase.) > > > Middle Aged Man: Good morning. Agent Ree Mailer here, that's Agent > > Annon Mouse over there. Welcome to the Brattleboro office, Willie. I > > think you'll like it here in our small town. > > > Spillman: I think I will too. I think I was lucky to get assigned to > > Brattleboro for my first posting out of the academy. > > > Mailer: We have your desk set up for you already. And your phone is > > hooked up too. (Agent Mouse suppresses a giggle as the phone rings.) > > You're on the clock, go get it Spillman! > > > Spillman: (answers phone) Agent Spillman, Brattleboro FBI..... Uh huh. > > Stalking, you say..... chess histories written in blood.... heuch? > > what does Heuch mean?... chess newsgroups.... some guy named Berman, > > is that what you said? Can you spell it? .... No, I wasn't insulting > > you. .... No, I don't hate foreigners.... Calm down Mr Inez.... No, I > > never posted to a newsgroup under the name "Sam Sloan." > > > Mouse (to Mailer): It's cruel to do that to a rookie, put them on the > > Innes phone. No wonder we get along.     Date: 28 Jun 2008 15:39:12 From: Chess One Subject: Re: P Innes 'withdraws' thanks to his ISP "The Historian" <neil.thehistorian@gmail.com > wrote in message news:e44b21b9-cde4-4cb5-97e0-fd103699c346@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >> >> Sam Sloan >> >> > Here's what happens when P Innes contacts the FBI: >> >> That's not what happened. If Brennen wants to continue to profile himself >> as >> a hater, as a satirist that is his business. I look after my own. >> >> Brennen as well as Sloan incited disgusting comments today - toward me >> and >> family. Brennen thinks he is immune, this mocking of American social >> standards is noted as part of his pattern of hate-speech. For Sloan, it >> is >> his only means to gain celebrity. >> >> Brennen suggested I wrote filth about my own family when >> >> wowa! >> >> the anon who /only/ followed his posts wrote filth about them. > > Actually, he followed the posts of P Innes. That seemed to be the > point, wasn't it? > >> That is the sort of character you got here, and now in Chess Life! and >> they >> are happy to have him ;( >> >> All I did was stick up for the ladies, then and now - and nor Slaon and >> Brennen show you all their /public/ orientation. Imagine their private >> stuff! >> >> Ker-ist, is some other idiot thinks this is a 'disagreement', then >> imagine >> the same happening to them and who they love. >> >> At length I voluntarily withdrew from this newsgroup, [not from others] >> to >> protect my family. > > After another four months of threatening folks here in the newsgroup, > and complaints to his ISP sover.net, that is. P Innes 'withdrew' The results of what //Brennen// wrote to my ISP about my resentment to the person who followed his own posts - only his posts - was the reason for my withdrawal. I shall perforce need do it again, since his vile speculations are nothing I need, and while this person would never have the balls to say so to my face, here he rules a little group of like minded woman-haters, and will voluntarily mention people's wives, ably supported by the Sloan and his own disgusting coterie of enthusiasts for 'freedom!, and God knows who else has chipped in with their comments on how ignorable a little fascism is these days. So... so long, and if you can, mention some chess now and again. More now than again. That is the best antedote. I will take this issue elsewhere since I say again, this is the public stance some people make, not the whole story. And I think, in time, the wheels grind fine. In the meatime I must resent such affronts to my family by not seeming to discourse with shite who don't care what they say. Phil Innes > pretty quickly once sover.net informed me they were going to speak to > their 'client' about his newsgroup posting practices. In particular, > something about the way P Innes altered his newsgroup headers violated > their terms of service. > > Do a search under P Innes' old posting address, and you will see he > was off the newsgroups from February to October 2003. > >> Some sad people here think this is very funny, celebrate it, but they >> only >> 'think' so at a distance, like Sloan does, otherwise can you imagine such >> people saying such things about your woman to your face? >> >> You want vile? These people will give it to you. >> >> Phil Innes >> >> > (Offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in Brattleboro, VT, >> > 8:00 AM. A couple of middle-aged men are standing drinking from coffee >> > mugs. One holds a half-eaten donut in his right hand. A young man >> > nervously clutching a briefcase walks in the front door. One of the >> > middle-aged men walks towards him.) >> >> > Middle Aged Man: Agent William E. Spillman? >> >> > Young Man: Yes, hello, glad to meet you. (He extends his hand and >> > drops his briefcase. Papers and pens spill out. Both older men >> > suppress a chuckle. The young man shoves paper and pens back into his >> > briefcase.) >> >> > Middle Aged Man: Good morning. Agent Ree Mailer here, that's Agent >> > Annon Mouse over there. Welcome to the Brattleboro office, Willie. I >> > think you'll like it here in our small town. >> >> > Spillman: I think I will too. I think I was lucky to get assigned to >> > Brattleboro for my first posting out of the academy. >> >> > Mailer: We have your desk set up for you already. And your phone is >> > hooked up too. (Agent Mouse suppresses a giggle as the phone rings.) >> > You're on the clock, go get it Spillman! >> >> > Spillman: (answers phone) Agent Spillman, Brattleboro FBI..... Uh huh. >> > Stalking, you say..... chess histories written in blood.... heuch? >> > what does Heuch mean?... chess newsgroups.... some guy named Berman, >> > is that what you said? Can you spell it? .... No, I wasn't insulting >> > you. .... No, I don't hate foreigners.... Calm down Mr Inez.... No, I >> > never posted to a newsgroup under the name "Sam Sloan." >> >> > Mouse (to Mailer): It's cruel to do that to a rookie, put them on the >> > Innes phone. No wonder we get along. >   Date: 28 Jun 2008 11:15:35 From: The Historian Subject: Re: Mottershead Chess Foundation announces 10.5 Million Dollar On 28, 1:09 pm, "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net > wrote: > "samsloan" <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:93be5fa6-c639-4709-87e4-2a1e47f5184f@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On 27, 6:53 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 27, 3:42 am, Frisco Del Rosario <fri...@appleisp.netNO> wrote: > > >> > In article <Qr-dnbPcfYS8nfnVnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@comcast.com>, > >> > "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net> wrote: > > >> > > What is this to you Francisco? Are you a d player too? > > >> > It's just "Frisco". I was once "nearly a 2200 player". > > >> > > Try writing on chess and I'll tell you what your rating is, Okay? > > >> > OK, Phil. Shall I send you a copy of "A First Book of Morphy", or would > >> > you like a few years of my California Chess Journals? But all of that's > >> > at least three years old. > > >> > I'm publishing a weekly bulletin for the Kolty Chess Club Championship > >> > tournament going on now -- want that? Not the greatest -- for being > >> > produced weekly -- an experienced journalist like you knows how that > >> > goes. > > >> >http://www.friscodelrosario.net/kolty2008_1.pdf > > >> Do not waste your time and money sending anything to Phil Innes. In > >> the first place, he will not give you his address, for fear that you > >> will assault his "wife", or some such nonsense. > > >> Sam Sloan > > > Be very careful in corresponding with Phil Innes. > > > A few years ago, if you check the archives to this group, you will see > > that Innes complained strenuously when somebody here revealed the name > > of the small town in Vermont where he lives. > > Laugh - Brattleboro, Kipling's town! I have referenced it some 100 times. > > "I cannot live where I love best, Bombay or Brattleboro." > - RK > > Gawd - I even invited Rynd/Dowd here for a week's free vacation, when he > really seemed to need one. 2 people know that, both post here. Wasn't that Larry Tapper? I recall that 'invitation' as another one of your clueless mix-ups. > > Innes wrote that, with this knowledge, somebody might come to his town > > and assault his "wife" and his other family members. > > You are a slut Sloan. A great big slut. And any man who is a man would > resent anyone assaulting their wife and children. > > > Innes wrote that he had complained to the police and to the FBI and > > other law enforcement authorities about this security breech. > > And this for the record! Internet threats being moderated by FBI. > > And here is our Sam, spinning away, causually dismissing everything decent, > and this is how here choses to celebrate his freedom of speech. > > I rather expect others will enjoy this sort of thing, but they would not > enjoy meeting me. Better then, they write here, than come here. > > Be very careful not to come here Sloan, since you voluntarily raise the > issue of abuse of wife and children, and that is an incitement! > > Phil Innes > > > Sam Sloan   Date: 28 Jun 2008 04:50:08 From: samsloan Subject: Re: Mottershead Chess Foundation announces 10.5 Million Dollar On 28, 5:31 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com > wrote: > On 28, 3:02 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 27, 10:24 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > On 27, 10:13 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 27, 6:53 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 27, 3:42 am, Frisco Del Rosario <fri...@appleisp.netNO> wrote: > > > > > > > In article <Qr-dnbPcfYS8nfnVnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@comcast.com>, > > > > > > "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > What is this to you Francisco? Are you a d player too? > > > > > > > It's just "Frisco". I was once "nearly a 2200 player". > > > > > > > > Try writing on chess and I'll tell you what your rating is, Okay? > > > > > > > OK, Phil. Shall I send you a copy of "A First Book of Morphy", or would > > > > > > you like a few years of my California Chess Journals? But all of that's > > > > > > at least three years old. > > > > > > > I'm publishing a weekly bulletin for the Kolty Chess Club Championship > > > > > > tournament going on now -- want that? Not the greatest -- for being > > > > > > produced weekly -- an experienced journalist like you knows how that > > > > > > goes. > > > > > > >http://www.friscodelrosario.net/kolty2008_1.pdf > > > > > > Do not waste your time and money sending anything to Phil Innes. In > > > > > the first place, he will not give you his address, for fear that you > > > > > will assault his "wife", or some such nonsense. > > > > > > Sam Sloan > > > > > Be very careful in corresponding with Phil Innes. > > > > > A few years ago, if you check the archives to this group, you will see > > > > that Innes complained strenuously when somebody here revealed the name > > > > of the small town in Vermont where he lives. > > > > > Innes wrote that, with this knowledge, somebody might come to his town > > > > and assault his "wife" and his other family members. > > > > > Innes wrote that he had complained to the police and to the FBI and > > > > other law enforcement authorities about this security breech. > > > > > Sam Sloan > > > > Here's what happens when P Innes contacts the FBI: > > > > (Offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in Brattleboro, VT, > > > 8:00 AM. A couple of middle-aged men are standing drinking from coffee > > > mugs. One holds a half-eaten donut in his right hand. A young man > > > nervously clutching a briefcase walks in the front door. One of the > > > middle-aged men walks towards him.) > > > > Middle Aged Man: Agent William E. Spillman? > > > > Young Man: Yes, hello, glad to meet you. (He extends his hand and > > > drops his briefcase. Papers and pens spill out. Both older men > > > suppress a chuckle. The young man shoves paper and pens back into his > > > briefcase.) > > > > Middle Aged Man: Good morning. Agent Ree Mailer here, that's Agent > > > Annon Mouse over there. Welcome to the Brattleboro office, Willie. I > > > think you'll like it here in our small town. > > > > Spillman: I think I will too. I think I was lucky to get assigned to > > > Brattleboro for my first posting out of the academy. > > > > Mailer: We have your desk set up for you already. And your phone is > > > hooked up too. (Agent Mouse suppresses a giggle as the phone rings.) > > > You're on the clock, go get it Spillman! > > > > Spillman: (answers phone) Agent Spillman, Brattleboro FBI..... Uh huh. > > > Stalking, you say..... chess histories written in blood.... heuch? > > > what does Heuch mean?... chess newsgroups.... some guy named Berman, > > > is that what you said? Can you spell it? .... No, I wasn't insulting > > > you. .... No, I don't hate foreigners.... Calm down Mr Inez.... No, I > > > never posted to a newsgroup under the name "Sam Sloan." > > > > Mouse (to Mailer): It's cruel to do that to a rookie, put them on the > > > Innes phone. No wonder we get along. > > > I thought this was rather good. Could you develop this idea? Perhaps > > we could make it into a part of a real movie. > > > Sam Sloan > > "Tales of the Brattleboro FBI?" > > While on the subject, here's a Brattleboro man who REALLY needed help > from the authorities: > > http://luckycornflake.blogspot.com/ > > I wonder if he knows the Brattleboro Bedlam? Amazing, now that the guy has made his bike famous by writing about it on his blog, he is selling it on eBay and the bids have risen to $225. I have a far better and more amazing story than that. In 1985 in Kashgar, Xinjiang, China my bike was stolen. I reported it to the police but naturally in a land with a million bicycles and all of them look alike I never expected to see it again. Amazingly, a week later, the Chinese police found my bicycle and returned it to me. Sam Sloan   Date: 28 Jun 2008 03:31:11 From: The Historian Subject: Re: Mottershead Chess Foundation announces 10.5 Million Dollar On 28, 3:02 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com > wrote: > On 27, 10:24 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > On 27, 10:13 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 27, 6:53 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 27, 3:42 am, Frisco Del Rosario <fri...@appleisp.netNO> wrote: > > > > > > In article <Qr-dnbPcfYS8nfnVnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@comcast.com>, > > > > > "Chess One" <OneCh...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > What is this to you Francisco? Are you a d player too? > > > > > > It's just "Frisco". I was once "nearly a 2200 player". > > > > > > > Try writing on chess and I'll tell you what your rating is, Okay? > > > > > > OK, Phil. Shall I send you a copy of "A First Book of Morphy", or would > > > > > you like a few years of my California Chess Journals? But all of that's > > > > > at least three years old. > > > > > > I'm publishing a weekly bulletin for the Kolty Chess Club Championship > > > > > tournament going on now -- want that? Not the greatest -- for being > > > > > produced weekly -- an experienced journalist like you knows how that > > > > > goes. > > > > > >http://www.friscodelrosario.net/kolty2008_1.pdf > > > > > Do not waste your time and money sending anything to Phil Innes. In > > > > the first place, he will not give you his address, for fear that you > > > > will assault his "wife", or some such nonsense. > > > > > Sam Sloan > > > > Be very careful in corresponding with Phil Innes. > > > > A few years ago, if you check the archives to this group, you will see > > > that Innes complained strenuously when somebody here revealed the name > > > of the small town in Vermont where he lives. > > > > Innes wrote that, with this knowledge, somebody might come to his town > > > and assault his "wife" and his other family members. > > > > Innes wrote that he had complained to the police and to the FBI and > > > other law enforcement authorities about this security breech. > > > > Sam Sloan > > > Here's what happens when P Innes contacts the FBI: > > > (Offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in Brattleboro, VT, > > 8:00 AM. A couple of middle-aged men are standing drinking from coffee > > mugs. One holds a half-eaten donut in his right hand. A young man > > nervously clutching a briefcase walks in the front door. One of the > > middle-aged men walks towards him.) > > > Middle Aged Man: Agent William E. Spillman? > > > Young Man: Yes, hello, glad to meet you. (He extends his hand and > > drops his briefcase. Papers and pens spill out. Both older men > > suppress a chuckle. The young man shoves paper and pens back into his > > briefcase.) > > > Middle Aged Man: Good morning. Agent Ree Mailer here, that's Agent > > Annon Mouse over there. Welcome to the Brattleboro office, Willie. I > > think you'll like it here in our small town. > > > Spillman: I think I will too. I think I was lucky to get assigned to > > Brattleboro for my first posting out of the academy. > > > Mailer: We have your desk set up for you already. And your phone is > > hooked up too. (Agent Mouse suppresses a giggle as the phone rings.) > > You're on the clock, go get it Spillman! > > > Spillman: (answers phone) Agent Spillman, Brattleboro FBI..... Uh huh. > > Stalking, you say..... chess histories written in blood.... heuch? > > what does Heuch mean?... chess newsgroups.... some guy named Berman, > > is that what you said? Can you spell it? .... No, I wasn't insulting > > you. .... No, I don't hate foreigners.... Calm down Mr Inez.... No, I > > never posted to a newsgroup under the name "Sam Sloan." > > > Mouse (to Mailer): It's cruel to do that to a rookie, put them on the > > Innes phone. No wonder we get along. > > I thought this was rather good. Could you develop this idea? Perhaps > we could make it into a part of a real movie. > > Sam Sloan "Tales of the Brattleboro FBI?" While on the subject, here's a Brattleboro man who REALLY needed help from the authorities: http://luckycornflake.blogspot.com/ I wonder if he knows the Brattleboro Bedlam?   Date: 28 Jun 2008 01:02:26 From: samsloan Subject: Re: Mottershead Chess Foundation announces 10.5 Million Dollar On 27, 10:24 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com > wrote: > On 27, 10:13 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 27, 6:53 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 27, 3:42 am, Frisco Del Rosario <fri...@appleisp.netNO> wrote: > > > > > In article <Qr-dnbPcfYS8nfnVnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@comcast.com>, > > > > "Chess One" <