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Date: 21 Feb 2009 10:30:02
From: Nomen Nescio
Subject: Musings on Schiller. Will Evans and Keene also oblige?
We are informed that Eric Schiller is, now, even more of
a "terminal case" than usual, and it is expected that
stroke number three should prove his end game. Without
appearing ghoulish, we'd be lying if we said we could
miss him overly. So we shall be silent. But we must ask,
when can Messrs. Keene and Evans oblige? Keenly awaited
are these long-overdue exeunts.

Since it was decided to place this in the usenet group
rec.games.chess.politics.samsloan, to stay "on-topic" we
add that the greeting given to Mr. Sloan by Grandmaster
Miles (deceased) was, to our way of thinking, gentle.
Has it been determined which of Mr. Sloan's admirers has
the habit of confusing an anagram with an acronym, a
palindrome or a metaphor?
From 2008:
Message-ID: 93ba0ec46bfbf2840b02650a05ea921f@dizum.com
From 2006:
Message-ID: 1158673437.348712.80910@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
From 2004 (deleted):
Message-ID: TMGak.2875$AX4.6150@trnddc05
From 2002:
Message-ID: pxz0kj$d16$1@aer9.atl.mindspring.net
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me thrice, my name must
be Stoan.

For the record books - how recent was the last chess-
related homicide? Isn't one somewhat overdue? For all we
know, Mr. Roberts (Florida) could be distantly related
to the Roberts family of Virginia, and may choose to
adopt their cause.





 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 02:56:28
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Musings on Schiller. Will Evans and Keene also oblige?
On Feb 21, 4:30=A0am, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com > wrote:
> We are informed that Eric Schiller is, now, even more of
> a "terminal case" than usual, and it is expected that
> stroke number three should prove his end game. Without
> appearing ghoulish, we'd be lying if we said we could
> miss him overly. So we shall be silent. But we must ask,
> when can Messrs. Keene and Evans oblige? Keenly awaited
> are these long-overdue exeunts.
>
> Since it was decided to place this in the usenet group
> rec.games.chess.politics.samsloan, to stay "on-topic" we
> add that the greeting given to Mr. Sloan by Grandmaster
> Miles (deceased) was, to our way of thinking, gentle.
> Has it been determined which of Mr. Sloan's admirers has
> the habit of confusing an anagram with an acronym, a
> palindrome or a metaphor?
> From 2008:
> Message-ID: 93ba0ec46bfbf2840b02650a05ea921f@dizum.com
> From 2006:
> Message-ID: 1158673437.348712.80910@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
> From 2004 (deleted):
> Message-ID: TMGak.2875$AX4.6150@trnddc05
> From 2002:
> Message-ID: pxz0kj$d16$1@aer9.atl.mindspring.net
> Fool me once, shame on you; fool me thrice, my name must
> be Stoan.
>
> For the record books - how recent was the last chess-
> related homicide? Isn't one somewhat overdue? For all we
> know, Mr. Roberts (Florida) could be distantly related
> to the Roberts family of Virginia, and may choose to
> adopt their cause.

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Date: 21 Feb 2009 19:52:45
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Musings on Schiller. Will Evans and Keene also oblige?
On Feb 21, 8:39=A0pm, None <JoeSchm...@gmail.com > wrote:

> Are you saying he didn't really beat Ray Charles?- Hide quoted text -


"When Mr. Evans attacked my weak : ::: :: square,
I didn't 'see' it coming." --RC

"I was /blindsided/ in the first game, but next time
I will be ready." --RC

"If I had only /foreseen/ the consequences of my
weak dark-square complex, I would never have
played the Queen's Indian. Or is it a light-square
complex? I had the black pieces, I think." --RC


-- help bot









  
Date: 21 Feb 2009 17:39:16
From: None
Subject: Re: Musings on Schiller. Will Evans and Keene also oblige?
On Feb 21, 8:31=A0pm, help bot <nomorech...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 21, 4:05=A0pm, onech...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> > I don't know about these archives or worse I've ever seen, [in fact
> > not]
>
> =A0 Some of the more prudish types I've known
> would have far greater objections to base
> profanities... as often spewed forth here by
> the good Dr. IMnes, for instance. =A0 You see,
> women and children may not have the
> slightest clue as to whom ES is, nor care,
> but they can be exposed to vile utterances
> and thus corrupted by the low scum what
> talks foul and filthy, fishwives that they are.
>
> > but I do agree with the Sloan about disgusting speculations, in
> > particular and in general. I especially think naming others while
> > withholding your own name means you need to get yourself a pair of
> > balls.
>
> =A0 =A0"Ouch!", for the anon known only as "jr" (perhaps
> Mr. Evans, perhaps not). =A0 =A0Come to think of it, not
> one but several anons have "appeared" over the
> years, enumerated by TK and suggested as being
> alter-egos for LP, in response to very similar
> accusations against TK himself.
>
> > I talked with Eric S a few months ago, and he seems fine enough, and
> > very busy. Ray Keene is also well, and being attended by tv interests
> > since he solved a real murder which had a chess them which had foxed
> > police.
>
> =A0 Old news; many months old. =A0 Too bad the
> poor chap /failed/ to solve the mysteries of
> chess-related cases (such as the one in
> which GK and RK told a huge fib regarding a
> certain "key" telephone call).
>
> >The sage of Reno could still beat the lot us, blindfold in a
> > simul.
>
> =A0 I don't believe it. =A0 =A0 Old men tend to have
> trouble with /blindfold simuls/ against our
> level of players; the reason is best explained
> by viewing a photograph of a normal, young
> and healthy brain, set next to one that has
> degenerated due to old age and/or ill health;
> to summarize, the old brain looks like the
> young and healthy one has been soaked in
> a vat of acid, half-eaten away!
>
> =A0 In Mr. Evans' case, we know from the fall-
> off in the quality of his writing that he is well
> down the slope-- he likely would beat each
> of us OTB, with sight of the board, and only
> allow a couple of draws in a sighted simul.
> A sizeable blindfold simul would be unfair to
> the old man-- nobody defeats old age.
>
> > Many here wanna be Alpha dogs
>
> =A0 Indeed.
>
> =A0 To paraphrase: =A0"I was once nearly an IM,
> with a rating of 2450...". =A0 Woof, woof!
>
> ----
>
> =A0 One suspects that the real reason so many
> ratpackers protest against /certain anons/
> (but not all of them), is the frustration they
> must endure as they attempt to spew vile
> ad hominem attacks against unknown
> adversaries. =A0 You see, ad hom. is a fine art,
> and one cannot fashion slings and arrows
> without a large degree of "customization",
> and that requires knowledge of /personal/
> attributes. =A0 =A0These ad hominists -- largely
> the Evans ratpack -- wail and bemoan their
> unfortunate circumstance endlessly, week
> after week, month after month, year after
> year. =A0 One truly pities them.
>
> =A0 -- help bot

" I don't believe it. Old men tend to have
trouble with /blindfold simuls/ against our
level of players; the reason is best explained
by viewing a photograph of a normal, young
and healthy brain, set next to one that has
degenerated due to old age and/or ill health;
to summarize, the old brain looks like the
young and healthy one has been soaked in
a vat of acid, half-eaten away!"

Are you saying he didn't really beat Ray Charles?



  
Date: 21 Feb 2009 17:31:02
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Musings on Schiller. Will Evans and Keene also oblige?
On Feb 21, 4:05=A0pm, onech...@comcast.net wrote:

> I don't know about these archives or worse I've ever seen, [in fact
> not]


Some of the more prudish types I've known
would have far greater objections to base
profanities... as often spewed forth here by
the good Dr. IMnes, for instance. You see,
women and children may not have the
slightest clue as to whom ES is, nor care,
but they can be exposed to vile utterances
and thus corrupted by the low scum what
talks foul and filthy, fishwives that they are.


> but I do agree with the Sloan about disgusting speculations, in
> particular and in general. I especially think naming others while
> withholding your own name means you need to get yourself a pair of
> balls.


"Ouch!", for the anon known only as "jr" (perhaps
Mr. Evans, perhaps not). Come to think of it, not
one but several anons have "appeared" over the
years, enumerated by TK and suggested as being
alter-egos for LP, in response to very similar
accusations against TK himself.


> I talked with Eric S a few months ago, and he seems fine enough, and
> very busy. Ray Keene is also well, and being attended by tv interests
> since he solved a real murder which had a chess them which had foxed
> police.


Old news; many months old. Too bad the
poor chap /failed/ to solve the mysteries of
chess-related cases (such as the one in
which GK and RK told a huge fib regarding a
certain "key" telephone call).


>The sage of Reno could still beat the lot us, blindfold in a
> simul.


I don't believe it. Old men tend to have
trouble with /blindfold simuls/ against our
level of players; the reason is best explained
by viewing a photograph of a normal, young
and healthy brain, set next to one that has
degenerated due to old age and/or ill health;
to summarize, the old brain looks like the
young and healthy one has been soaked in
a vat of acid, half-eaten away!

In Mr. Evans' case, we know from the fall-
off in the quality of his writing that he is well
down the slope-- he likely would beat each
of us OTB, with sight of the board, and only
allow a couple of draws in a sighted simul.
A sizeable blindfold simul would be unfair to
the old man-- nobody defeats old age.


> Many here wanna be Alpha dogs


Indeed.

To paraphrase: "I was once nearly an IM,
with a rating of 2450...". Woof, woof!

----

One suspects that the real reason so many
ratpackers protest against /certain anons/
(but not all of them), is the frustration they
must endure as they attempt to spew vile
ad hominem attacks against unknown
adversaries. You see, ad hom. is a fine art,
and one cannot fashion slings and arrows
without a large degree of "customization",
and that requires knowledge of /personal/
attributes. These ad hominists -- largely
the Evans ratpack -- wail and bemoan their
unfortunate circumstance endlessly, week
after week, month after month, year after
year. One truly pities them.


-- help bot





  
Date: 21 Feb 2009 13:05:46
From:
Subject: Re: Musings on Schiller. Will Evans and Keene also oblige?
On Feb 21, 5:56=A0am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 21, 4:30=A0am, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > We are informed that Eric Schiller is, now, even more of
> > a "terminal case" than usual, and it is expected that
> > stroke number three should prove his end game. Without
> > appearing ghoulish, we'd be lying if we said we could
> > miss him overly. So we shall be silent. But we must ask,
> > when can Messrs. Keene and Evans oblige? Keenly awaited
> > are these long-overdue exeunts.
>
> > Since it was decided to place this in the usenet group
> > rec.games.chess.politics.samsloan, to stay "on-topic" we
> > add that the greeting given to Mr. Sloan by Grandmaster
> > Miles (deceased) was, to our way of thinking, gentle.
> > Has it been determined which of Mr. Sloan's admirers has
> > the habit of confusing an anagram with an acronym, a
> > palindrome or a metaphor?
> > From 2008:
> > Message-ID: 93ba0ec46bfbf2840b02650a05ea9...@dizum.com
> > From 2006:
> > Message-ID: 1158673437.348712.80...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
> > From 2004 (deleted):
> > Message-ID: TMGak.2875$AX4.6150@trnddc05
> > From 2002:
> > Message-ID: pxz0kj$d1...@aer9.atl.mindspring.net
> > Fool me once, shame on you; fool me thrice, my name must
> > be Stoan.
>
> > For the record books - how recent was the last chess-
> > related homicide? Isn't one somewhat overdue? For all we
> > know, Mr. Roberts (Florida) could be distantly related
> > to the Roberts family of Virginia, and may choose to
> > adopt their cause.
>
> Archived as one of the most objectionable postings ever:

I don't know about these archives or worse I've ever seen, [in fact
not] but I do agree with the Sloan about disgusting speculations, in
particular and in general. I especially think naming others while
withholding your own name means you need to get yourself a pair of
balls.

I talked with Eric S a few months ago, and he seems fine enough, and
very busy. Ray Keene is also well, and being attended by tv interests
since he solved a real murder which had a chess them which had foxed
police. The sage of Reno could still beat the lot us, blindfold in a
simul.

While the post above is obviously disgusting, it doesn't stand alone
in that category, it only points elsewhere than usual.

Brave anons should get over themselves before they try to get over
others - then indeed, there may be no need to play Alpha-dog, since
that's all you get... the biggest bark on your block - which is merely
boring to other people.

Many here wanna be Alpha dogs, and I suppose competition is fierce if
you forget that barking is a tad basic, and that's all you get to do.

Phil Innes






   
Date: 22 Feb 2009 13:22:31
From: madams
Subject: Re: Musings on Schiller. Will Evans and Keene also oblige?
onechess@comcast.net wrote:
.
I've had to snip, I'm in a rush bot may return - this thread..

> Ray Keene is also well, and being attended by tv interests
> since he solved a real murder which had a chess them which had foxed
> police.

This 'affair' is a few yrs. old now, & unless there have been new
developements it's simply incorrect to state RK "solved" anything like a
"real murder". We've been here before (not that it seems to matter to
some)..

The facts are RK was indeed consulted by the cops & 'helped' them by
using his expertise to decrypt some seemingly chessic pointers in the
case - this led them (the cops) on something of a wgc [wild goose
chase?] to Ireland. Some seemingly relevant 'stuff' was discovered
there, but crucially - no body = case UNSOLVED..

m.






> The sage of Reno could still beat the lot us, blindfold in a
> simul.
>
> While the post above is obviously disgusting, it doesn't stand alone
> in that category, it only points elsewhere than usual.
>
> Brave anons should get over themselves before they try to get over
> others - then indeed, there may be no need to play Alpha-dog, since
> that's all you get... the biggest bark on your block - which is merely
> boring to other people.

Not to other dawgs tho'..

>
> Many here wanna be Alpha dogs, and I suppose competition is fierce if
> you forget that barking is a tad basic, and that's all you get to do.
>
> Phil Innes