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Date: 29 Nov 2008 23:59:13
From: B. Lafferty
Subject: Polgar Backhands Dylan Mc Clain and Violates Copyright
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From Polgar's blog today. When will she sue McClain and the times?
CHESS; Timman Goes Astray On His Home Turf
By ROBERT BYRNE
Published: October 3, 1993
NY Times
THE first game of the International Chess Federation championship match
on Sept. 6 in Zwolle, the Netherlands, was a calamity for the
grandmaster Jan Timman. Although he played an opening variation that he
invented five years ago, he quickly went astray. He then put up a
struggle only to commit more errors in an end game and hand a victory to
Anatoly Karpov of Russia, the former titleholder.
In the Caro-Kann, 7 Qe2 creates the threat of 8 Nf7! Kf7 9 Qe6 Kg6 10
Bd3 Kh5 11 Qh3mate. After 7 . . . Nb6 8 Bd3, Black cannot take a pawn
with 8 . . . Qd4 because 9 N1f3 Qg4 10 Nf7! ruptures the pawn position.
Black's 12 . . . Qc7 prevents White from preparing to castle queenside
by 13 Bd2? in view of 13 . . . Ne5 14 Ne5 Bf2! 15 Kf2 Qe5! 16 Qe5 Ng4 17
Kg3 Ne5, winning a pawn. On 13 Bf4, the plan in 13 . . . Bb4 is to
prevent White from castling queenside: 14 c3? would be ruined by 14 . .
. Bc3!
It was in Amsterdam in 1988 that Timman flinched from Karpov's 13 . . .
Bb4 with 14 Kf1 in a game that was drawn, and later he suggested 14 Nd2
Bd2 15 Kd2 O-O. This time, after 16 Rhd1 Qb6, he played 17 Nc4, but
later, in Game 3, he improved with 17 Kc1 and got the advantage after 17
. . . Nd5 18 Bg3 Nc5 19 Bc4 Bd7 20 Nd7 Nd7 21 a4.
After 17 . . . Qc6 18 Qf3 Nd5 (on 18 . . . Qf3 19 gf, Timman would be
well positioned for an end game with his king in the center and the
lagging development of the c8 bishop possibly creating a problem for
Black) 19 g3 Nc5, Karpov's knights had excellent mobility and also had
the option of exchanging off the white bishops.
Timman aimed for a repetition of position draw with 20 Bh6 gh 21 Qg4 Kh8
22 Ne5 Qa4 23 Qh5 Kg7 24 Ng4 Rh8 25 Ne5, but Karpov broke the repetition
with 27 . . . Qe8. After 28 Qg4 Kf8 29 Qd4 Nd3 30 Ng6 fg 31 Qh8 Ke7 32
Qe8 Ke8 33 Kd3, Timman had an end game that offered drawing chances.
But after 33 . . . b5, the Dutchman missed 34 c4! bc 35 Kc4 Ba6 36 Kc5,
which would have given him the chance to use his queenside pawns
aggressively. Instead, he wasted time doubling his rooks against the
unassailable e6 pawn. Still floundering, he weakened his kingside with
41 f3?!
His 44 Ke2? let Karpov play 44 . . . Be6!, when 45 hg hg 46 f4 ef 47 gf
g4 yields Karpov a passed g4 pawn. Moreover, 45 a3 permits 45 . . . Bf5!
46 Rb4 (or 46 Re3 Nd5) Rd8! 47 Rd1 Rd1 48 Kd1 Bd3 49 hg hg 50 Rg4 Nd5 51
Kd2 Bf5, trapping the rook. Thus, 45 Kf2 Ba2 cost Timman a vital pawn.
After 56 . . . Kf6 Timman had to lose his b2 pawn and therefore gave up.
Timman, Jan (2620) - Karpov, Anatoly (2760) [B17]
FIDE-Wch NED/INA (1), 1993
1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Bc4 Ngf6 6.Ng5 e6 7.Qe2 Nb6
8.Bd3 h6 9.N5f3 c5 10.dxc5 Bxc5 11.Ne5 Nbd7 12.Ngf3 Qc7 13.Bf4 Bb4+
14.Nd2 Bxd2+ 15.Kxd2 0-0 16.Rhd1 Qb6 17.Nc4 Qc6 18.Qf3 Nd5 19.g3 Nc5
20.Bxh6 gxh6 21.Qg4+ Kh8 22.Ne5 Qa4 23.Qh5 Kg7 24.Ng4 Rh8 25.Ne5 Rf8
26.Ng4 Rh8 27.Ne5 Qe8 28.Qg4+ Kf8 29.Qd4 Nxd3 30.Ng6+ fxg6 31.Qxh8+ Ke7
32.Qxe8+ Kxe8 33.Kxd3 b5 34.Re1 Ke7 35.Re5 g5 36.Rae1 Kf6 37.R5e4 Bd7
38.h4 Rf8 39.c3 a5 40.Kd4 Rc8 41.f3 a4 42.Rc1 Ne7 43.Kd3 e5 44.Ke2 Be6
45.Kf2 Bxa2 46.Rce1 Rc5 47.hxg5+ hxg5 48.f4 Ng6 49.fxe5+ Nxe5 50.Rd4 Rd5
51.Rxd5 Bxd5 52.Ke3 Bc4 53.Rd1 Kf5 54.Rd4 Nd3 55.g4+ Ke5 56.Re4+ Kf6 0-1
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Date: 29 Nov 2008 17:48:45
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Polgar Backhands Dylan Mc Clain and Violates Copyright
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On Nov 29, 6:59=A0pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected] > wrote:
> =A0From Polgar's blog today. =A0When will she sue McClain and the times?
>
> CHESS; Timman Goes Astray On His Home Turf
> By ROBERT BYRNE
> Published: October 3, 1993
> NY Times
Why is she reprinting Robert Byrne's copyrighted material? And why are
you doing it as well?
> Timman, Jan (2620) - Karpov, Anatoly (2760) [B17]
> FIDE-Wch NED/INA (1), 1993
>
> 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Bc4 Ngf6 6.Ng5 e6 7.Qe2 Nb6
> 8.Bd3 h6 9.N5f3 c5 10.dxc5 Bxc5 11.Ne5 Nbd7 12.Ngf3 Qc7 13.Bf4 Bb4+
> 14.Nd2 Bxd2+ 15.Kxd2 0-0 16.Rhd1 Qb6 17.Nc4 Qc6 18.Qf3 Nd5 19.g3 Nc5
> 20.Bxh6 gxh6 21.Qg4+ Kh8 22.Ne5 Qa4 23.Qh5 Kg7 24.Ng4 Rh8 25.Ne5 Rf8
> 26.Ng4 Rh8 27.Ne5 Qe8 28.Qg4+ Kf8 29.Qd4 Nxd3 30.Ng6+ fxg6 31.Qxh8+ Ke7
> 32.Qxe8+ Kxe8 33.Kxd3 b5 34.Re1 Ke7 35.Re5 g5 36.Rae1 Kf6 37.R5e4 Bd7
> 38.h4 Rf8 39.c3 a5 40.Kd4 Rc8 41.f3 a4 42.Rc1 Ne7 43.Kd3 e5 44.Ke2 Be6
> 45.Kf2 Bxa2 46.Rce1 Rc5 47.hxg5+ hxg5 48.f4 Ng6 49.fxe5+ Nxe5 50.Rd4 Rd5
> 51.Rxd5 Bxd5 52.Ke3 Bc4 53.Rd1 Kf5 54.Rd4 Nd3 55.g4+ Ke5 56.Re4+ Kf6 0-1
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Date: 30 Nov 2008 12:34:36
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Polgar Backhands Dylan Mc Clain and Violates Copyright
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THIS CRAZY WORLD OF CHESS (page 104)
<Now the NY Times chess column has become the National Enquirer of
chess. What a pity! > -- Brian Lafferty apparently quoting from Susan
Polgar's blog
The chess politicos also claimed the same thing when GM Larry Evans
revealed their dark deeds in his syndicated newspaper column. "Why
doesn't he write about chess?" they howled. Needless to say, the sage
of Reno was right on the mark.
31. How America Was Betrayed
Former Chess Life editor Larry Parr recently noted that Inside Chess
lasted from 1988 to 2000 and the one article that still stands out in
his mind was one I wrote called "How America is Betrayed in World
Chess." It prompted our FIDE delegate Don Schultz to sue me for $21
million, claiming in a sworn affidavit that I ruined his ambition to
become president of FIDE. His case was tossed out of court.
B. Lafferty wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > This one is silly. The piece is labeled as a tribute to Byrne, and
> > quotes one column. Nobody will sue over such one-time use of a column
> > from 15 years ago.
> >
> > I didn't see the references to the current writer in the blog entry at
> > all, by the way.
> >
> > Jerry Spinrad
>
> They are there.
>
> A great champion! A great columnist! The good old days. Now the NY
> Times chess column has become the National Enquirer of chess. What a pity!
>
> Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:44:00 PM CST
> Anonymous Oldtimer said...
>
> I used to look forward to reading GM Byrne's column every Sunday. I
> don't bother anymore. The quality has suffered quite a bit with the change.
>
> Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:04:00 PM CST
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Date: 30 Nov 2008 21:54:07
From: B. Lafferty
Subject: Re: Polgar Backhands Dylan Mc Clain and Violates Copyright
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It's deja vue all over again.
[email protected] wrote:
> THIS CRAZY WORLD OF CHESS (page 104)
>
> <Now the NY Times chess column has become the National Enquirer of
> chess. What a pity!> -- Brian Lafferty apparently quoting from Susan
> Polgar's blog
>
> The chess politicos also claimed the same thing when GM Larry Evans
> revealed their dark deeds in his syndicated newspaper column. "Why
> doesn't he write about chess?" they howled. Needless to say, the sage
> of Reno was right on the mark.
>
> 31. How America Was Betrayed
>
> Former Chess Life editor Larry Parr recently noted that Inside Chess
> lasted from 1988 to 2000 and the one article that still stands out in
> his mind was one I wrote called "How America is Betrayed in World
> Chess." It prompted our FIDE delegate Don Schultz to sue me for $21
> million, claiming in a sworn affidavit that I ruined his ambition to
> become president of FIDE. His case was tossed out of court.
>
>
>
>
> B. Lafferty wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> This one is silly. The piece is labeled as a tribute to Byrne, and
>>> quotes one column. Nobody will sue over such one-time use of a column
>>> from 15 years ago.
>>>
>>> I didn't see the references to the current writer in the blog entry at
>>> all, by the way.
>>>
>>> Jerry Spinrad
>> They are there.
>>
>> A great champion! A great columnist! The good old days. Now the NY
>> Times chess column has become the National Enquirer of chess. What a pity!
>>
>> Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:44:00 PM CST
>> Anonymous Oldtimer said...
>>
>> I used to look forward to reading GM Byrne's column every Sunday. I
>> don't bother anymore. The quality has suffered quite a bit with the change.
>>
>> Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:04:00 PM CST
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Date: 30 Nov 2008 07:52:04
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Polgar Backhands Dylan Mc Clain and Violates Copyright
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On Nov 30, 10:44=A0am, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected] > wrote:
> > I also agree this is another non-issue Lafferty is conjuring up to
> > attack Susan Polgar. GM Polgar has a lot to answer for. I think
> > there's enough to criticize her for without making stuff up.
>
> It is not a non-issue for Polgar and Truong. =A0Polgar has openly attacke=
d
> McClain in the past, as have the anonymous minions, for his reporting
> news of the USCF and Trolgar. =A0Trolgar does not appreciate sunlight
> shining into their increasingly small world.
So you are an agent of sunlight now, Sunshine? I'm sure the New York
Times and their chess columnists present and past feel so much better
that you are watching over them. Goodness knows they couldn't do it
themselves.You're behaving just like that other noisegroup public
defender, P Innes.
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Date: 30 Nov 2008 07:31:19
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Polgar Backhands Dylan Mc Clain and Violates Copyright
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On Nov 30, 10:19=A0am, "[email protected]"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> This one is silly. The piece is labeled as a tribute to Byrne, and
> quotes one column. Nobody will sue over such one-time use of a column
> from 15 years ago.
Hi Jerry,
Even if no one would sue, it's still a violation of copyright to quote
in its entirety, as Mr. Lafferty did, a column of GM Byrne's, unless
he had the copyright holder's permission.
I agree that GM Polgar only quoted portions of the Byrne column. One
could quibble over the percentage of the column she quoted.
I also agree this is another non-issue Lafferty is conjuring up to
attack Susan Polgar. GM Polgar has a lot to answer for. I think
there's enough to criticize her for without making stuff up.
> I didn't see the references to the current writer in the blog entry at
> all, by the way.
>
> Jerry Spinrad
>
> On Nov 30, 5:54=A0am, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The Historian wrote:
> > > On Nov 29, 8:57 pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> The Historian wrote:
> > >>> On Nov 29, 6:59 pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>> =A0From Polgar's blog today. =A0When will she sue McClain and the =
times?
> > >>>> CHESS; Timman Goes Astray On His Home Turf
> > >>>> By ROBERT BYRNE
> > >>>> Published: October 3, 1993
> > >>>> NY Times
> > >>> Why is she reprinting Robert Byrne's copyrighted material? And why =
are
> > >>> you doing it as well?
> > >> Look at the headline she used and several of the comments in which
> > >> McClain is not referenced in a flattering manner.
>
> > > You've dodged the question of why YOU are reprinting GM Byrne's
> > > copyrighted material. Do you have permission from the copyright holde=
r
> > > to reprint one of his New York Times columns in its entirety?
> > > While one can question GM Polgar's understanding of 'fair use', I'm
> > > surprised you don't understand it.
>
> > Fair use quoting Polgar's violation of copyright. =A0If the Times
> > disagrees, they can sue me.
>
> > > GM Polgar is entitled to her opinion of the current New York Times
> > > chess columnist.
>
> > >>>> Timman, Jan (2620) - Karpov, Anatoly (2760) [B17]
> > >>>> FIDE-Wch NED/INA (1), 1993
> > >>>> 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Bc4 Ngf6 6.Ng5 e6 7.Qe2 Nb=
6
> > >>>> 8.Bd3 h6 9.N5f3 c5 10.dxc5 Bxc5 11.Ne5 Nbd7 12.Ngf3 Qc7 13.Bf4 Bb4=
+
> > >>>> 14.Nd2 Bxd2+ 15.Kxd2 0-0 16.Rhd1 Qb6 17.Nc4 Qc6 18.Qf3 Nd5 19.g3 N=
c5
> > >>>> 20.Bxh6 gxh6 21.Qg4+ Kh8 22.Ne5 Qa4 23.Qh5 Kg7 24.Ng4 Rh8 25.Ne5 R=
f8
> > >>>> 26.Ng4 Rh8 27.Ne5 Qe8 28.Qg4+ Kf8 29.Qd4 Nxd3 30.Ng6+ fxg6 31.Qxh8=
+ Ke7
> > >>>> 32.Qxe8+ Kxe8 33.Kxd3 b5 34.Re1 Ke7 35.Re5 g5 36.Rae1 Kf6 37.R5e4 =
Bd7
> > >>>> 38.h4 Rf8 39.c3 a5 40.Kd4 Rc8 41.f3 a4 42.Rc1 Ne7 43.Kd3 e5 44.Ke2=
Be6
> > >>>> 45.Kf2 Bxa2 46.Rce1 Rc5 47.hxg5+ hxg5 48.f4 Ng6 49.fxe5+ Nxe5 50.R=
d4 Rd5
> > >>>> 51.Rxd5 Bxd5 52.Ke3 Bc4 53.Rd1 Kf5 54.Rd4 Nd3 55.g4+ Ke5 56.Re4+ K=
f6 0-1- Hide quoted text -
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Date: 30 Nov 2008 15:44:50
From: B. Lafferty
Subject: Re: Polgar Backhands Dylan Mc Clain and Violates Copyright
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The Historian wrote:
> On Nov 30, 10:19 am, "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> This one is silly. The piece is labeled as a tribute to Byrne, and
>> quotes one column. Nobody will sue over such one-time use of a column
>> from 15 years ago.
>
> Hi Jerry,
>
> Even if no one would sue, it's still a violation of copyright to quote
> in its entirety, as Mr. Lafferty did, a column of GM Byrne's, unless
> he had the copyright holder's permission.
>
> I agree that GM Polgar only quoted portions of the Byrne column. One
> could quibble over the percentage of the column she quoted.
>
> I also agree this is another non-issue Lafferty is conjuring up to
> attack Susan Polgar. GM Polgar has a lot to answer for. I think
> there's enough to criticize her for without making stuff up.
It is not a non-issue for Polgar and Truong. Polgar has openly attacked
McClain in the past, as have the anonymous minions, for his reporting
news of the USCF and Trolgar. Trolgar does not appreciate sunlight
shining into their increasingly small world.
>
>> I didn't see the references to the current writer in the blog entry at
>> all, by the way.
>>
>> Jerry Spinrad
>>
>> On Nov 30, 5:54 am, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The Historian wrote:
>>>> On Nov 29, 8:57 pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> The Historian wrote:
>>>>>> On Nov 29, 6:59 pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> From Polgar's blog today. When will she sue McClain and the times?
>>>>>>> CHESS; Timman Goes Astray On His Home Turf
>>>>>>> By ROBERT BYRNE
>>>>>>> Published: October 3, 1993
>>>>>>> NY Times
>>>>>> Why is she reprinting Robert Byrne's copyrighted material? And why are
>>>>>> you doing it as well?
>>>>> Look at the headline she used and several of the comments in which
>>>>> McClain is not referenced in a flattering manner.
>>>> You've dodged the question of why YOU are reprinting GM Byrne's
>>>> copyrighted material. Do you have permission from the copyright holder
>>>> to reprint one of his New York Times columns in its entirety?
>>>> While one can question GM Polgar's understanding of 'fair use', I'm
>>>> surprised you don't understand it.
>>> Fair use quoting Polgar's violation of copyright. If the Times
>>> disagrees, they can sue me.
>>>> GM Polgar is entitled to her opinion of the current New York Times
>>>> chess columnist.
>>>>>>> Timman, Jan (2620) - Karpov, Anatoly (2760) [B17]
>>>>>>> FIDE-Wch NED/INA (1), 1993
>>>>>>> 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Bc4 Ngf6 6.Ng5 e6 7.Qe2 Nb6
>>>>>>> 8.Bd3 h6 9.N5f3 c5 10.dxc5 Bxc5 11.Ne5 Nbd7 12.Ngf3 Qc7 13.Bf4 Bb4+
>>>>>>> 14.Nd2 Bxd2+ 15.Kxd2 0-0 16.Rhd1 Qb6 17.Nc4 Qc6 18.Qf3 Nd5 19.g3 Nc5
>>>>>>> 20.Bxh6 gxh6 21.Qg4+ Kh8 22.Ne5 Qa4 23.Qh5 Kg7 24.Ng4 Rh8 25.Ne5 Rf8
>>>>>>> 26.Ng4 Rh8 27.Ne5 Qe8 28.Qg4+ Kf8 29.Qd4 Nxd3 30.Ng6+ fxg6 31.Qxh8+ Ke7
>>>>>>> 32.Qxe8+ Kxe8 33.Kxd3 b5 34.Re1 Ke7 35.Re5 g5 36.Rae1 Kf6 37.R5e4 Bd7
>>>>>>> 38.h4 Rf8 39.c3 a5 40.Kd4 Rc8 41.f3 a4 42.Rc1 Ne7 43.Kd3 e5 44.Ke2 Be6
>>>>>>> 45.Kf2 Bxa2 46.Rce1 Rc5 47.hxg5+ hxg5 48.f4 Ng6 49.fxe5+ Nxe5 50.Rd4 Rd5
>>>>>>> 51.Rxd5 Bxd5 52.Ke3 Bc4 53.Rd1 Kf5 54.Rd4 Nd3 55.g4+ Ke5 56.Re4+ Kf6 0-1- Hide quoted text -
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Date: 30 Nov 2008 07:19:43
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Polgar Backhands Dylan Mc Clain and Violates Copyright
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This one is silly. The piece is labeled as a tribute to Byrne, and
quotes one column. Nobody will sue over such one-time use of a column
from 15 years ago.
I didn't see the references to the current writer in the blog entry at
all, by the way.
Jerry Spinrad
On Nov 30, 5:54=A0am, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected] > wrote:
> The Historian wrote:
> > On Nov 29, 8:57 pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> The Historian wrote:
> >>> On Nov 29, 6:59 pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> =A0From Polgar's blog today. =A0When will she sue McClain and the ti=
mes?
> >>>> CHESS; Timman Goes Astray On His Home Turf
> >>>> By ROBERT BYRNE
> >>>> Published: October 3, 1993
> >>>> NY Times
> >>> Why is she reprinting Robert Byrne's copyrighted material? And why ar=
e
> >>> you doing it as well?
> >> Look at the headline she used and several of the comments in which
> >> McClain is not referenced in a flattering manner.
>
> > You've dodged the question of why YOU are reprinting GM Byrne's
> > copyrighted material. Do you have permission from the copyright holder
> > to reprint one of his New York Times columns in its entirety?
> > While one can question GM Polgar's understanding of 'fair use', I'm
> > surprised you don't understand it.
>
> Fair use quoting Polgar's violation of copyright. =A0If the Times
> disagrees, they can sue me.
>
>
>
>
>
> > GM Polgar is entitled to her opinion of the current New York Times
> > chess columnist.
>
> >>>> Timman, Jan (2620) - Karpov, Anatoly (2760) [B17]
> >>>> FIDE-Wch NED/INA (1), 1993
> >>>> 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Bc4 Ngf6 6.Ng5 e6 7.Qe2 Nb6
> >>>> 8.Bd3 h6 9.N5f3 c5 10.dxc5 Bxc5 11.Ne5 Nbd7 12.Ngf3 Qc7 13.Bf4 Bb4+
> >>>> 14.Nd2 Bxd2+ 15.Kxd2 0-0 16.Rhd1 Qb6 17.Nc4 Qc6 18.Qf3 Nd5 19.g3 Nc5
> >>>> 20.Bxh6 gxh6 21.Qg4+ Kh8 22.Ne5 Qa4 23.Qh5 Kg7 24.Ng4 Rh8 25.Ne5 Rf8
> >>>> 26.Ng4 Rh8 27.Ne5 Qe8 28.Qg4+ Kf8 29.Qd4 Nxd3 30.Ng6+ fxg6 31.Qxh8+ =
Ke7
> >>>> 32.Qxe8+ Kxe8 33.Kxd3 b5 34.Re1 Ke7 35.Re5 g5 36.Rae1 Kf6 37.R5e4 Bd=
7
> >>>> 38.h4 Rf8 39.c3 a5 40.Kd4 Rc8 41.f3 a4 42.Rc1 Ne7 43.Kd3 e5 44.Ke2 B=
e6
> >>>> 45.Kf2 Bxa2 46.Rce1 Rc5 47.hxg5+ hxg5 48.f4 Ng6 49.fxe5+ Nxe5 50.Rd4=
Rd5
> >>>> 51.Rxd5 Bxd5 52.Ke3 Bc4 53.Rd1 Kf5 54.Rd4 Nd3 55.g4+ Ke5 56.Re4+ Kf6=
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Date: 30 Nov 2008 15:41:09
From: B. Lafferty
Subject: Re: Polgar Backhands Dylan Mc Clain and Violates Copyright
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[email protected] wrote:
> This one is silly. The piece is labeled as a tribute to Byrne, and
> quotes one column. Nobody will sue over such one-time use of a column
> from 15 years ago.
>
> I didn't see the references to the current writer in the blog entry at
> all, by the way.
>
> Jerry Spinrad
They are there.
A great champion! A great columnist! The good old days. Now the NY
Times chess column has become the National Enquirer of chess. What a pity!
Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:44:00 PM CST
Anonymous Oldtimer said...
I used to look forward to reading GM Byrne's column every Sunday. I
don't bother anymore. The quality has suffered quite a bit with the change.
Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:04:00 PM CST
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Date: 29 Nov 2008 18:26:35
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Polgar Backhands Dylan Mc Clain and Violates Copyright
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On Nov 29, 8:57=A0pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected] > wrote:
> The Historian wrote:
> > On Nov 29, 6:59 pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> =A0From Polgar's blog today. =A0When will she sue McClain and the time=
s?
>
> >> CHESS; Timman Goes Astray On His Home Turf
> >> By ROBERT BYRNE
> >> Published: October 3, 1993
> >> NY Times
>
> > Why is she reprinting Robert Byrne's copyrighted material? And why are
> > you doing it as well?
>
> Look at the headline she used and several of the comments in which
> McClain is not referenced in a flattering manner.
You've dodged the question of why YOU are reprinting GM Byrne's
copyrighted material. Do you have permission from the copyright holder
to reprint one of his New York Times columns in its entirety?
While one can question GM Polgar's understanding of 'fair use', I'm
surprised you don't understand it.
GM Polgar is entitled to her opinion of the current New York Times
chess columnist.
> >> Timman, Jan (2620) - Karpov, Anatoly (2760) [B17]
> >> FIDE-Wch NED/INA (1), 1993
>
> >> 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Bc4 Ngf6 6.Ng5 e6 7.Qe2 Nb6
> >> 8.Bd3 h6 9.N5f3 c5 10.dxc5 Bxc5 11.Ne5 Nbd7 12.Ngf3 Qc7 13.Bf4 Bb4+
> >> 14.Nd2 Bxd2+ 15.Kxd2 0-0 16.Rhd1 Qb6 17.Nc4 Qc6 18.Qf3 Nd5 19.g3 Nc5
> >> 20.Bxh6 gxh6 21.Qg4+ Kh8 22.Ne5 Qa4 23.Qh5 Kg7 24.Ng4 Rh8 25.Ne5 Rf8
> >> 26.Ng4 Rh8 27.Ne5 Qe8 28.Qg4+ Kf8 29.Qd4 Nxd3 30.Ng6+ fxg6 31.Qxh8+ Ke=
7
> >> 32.Qxe8+ Kxe8 33.Kxd3 b5 34.Re1 Ke7 35.Re5 g5 36.Rae1 Kf6 37.R5e4 Bd7
> >> 38.h4 Rf8 39.c3 a5 40.Kd4 Rc8 41.f3 a4 42.Rc1 Ne7 43.Kd3 e5 44.Ke2 Be6
> >> 45.Kf2 Bxa2 46.Rce1 Rc5 47.hxg5+ hxg5 48.f4 Ng6 49.fxe5+ Nxe5 50.Rd4 R=
d5
> >> 51.Rxd5 Bxd5 52.Ke3 Bc4 53.Rd1 Kf5 54.Rd4 Nd3 55.g4+ Ke5 56.Re4+ Kf6 0=
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Date: 30 Nov 2008 11:54:26
From: B. Lafferty
Subject: Re: Polgar Backhands Dylan Mc Clain and Violates Copyright
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The Historian wrote:
> On Nov 29, 8:57 pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The Historian wrote:
>>> On Nov 29, 6:59 pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> From Polgar's blog today. When will she sue McClain and the times?
>>>> CHESS; Timman Goes Astray On His Home Turf
>>>> By ROBERT BYRNE
>>>> Published: October 3, 1993
>>>> NY Times
>>> Why is she reprinting Robert Byrne's copyrighted material? And why are
>>> you doing it as well?
>> Look at the headline she used and several of the comments in which
>> McClain is not referenced in a flattering manner.
>
> You've dodged the question of why YOU are reprinting GM Byrne's
> copyrighted material. Do you have permission from the copyright holder
> to reprint one of his New York Times columns in its entirety?
> While one can question GM Polgar's understanding of 'fair use', I'm
> surprised you don't understand it.
Fair use quoting Polgar's violation of copyright. If the Times
disagrees, they can sue me.
>
> GM Polgar is entitled to her opinion of the current New York Times
> chess columnist.
>
>>>> Timman, Jan (2620) - Karpov, Anatoly (2760) [B17]
>>>> FIDE-Wch NED/INA (1), 1993
>>>> 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Bc4 Ngf6 6.Ng5 e6 7.Qe2 Nb6
>>>> 8.Bd3 h6 9.N5f3 c5 10.dxc5 Bxc5 11.Ne5 Nbd7 12.Ngf3 Qc7 13.Bf4 Bb4+
>>>> 14.Nd2 Bxd2+ 15.Kxd2 0-0 16.Rhd1 Qb6 17.Nc4 Qc6 18.Qf3 Nd5 19.g3 Nc5
>>>> 20.Bxh6 gxh6 21.Qg4+ Kh8 22.Ne5 Qa4 23.Qh5 Kg7 24.Ng4 Rh8 25.Ne5 Rf8
>>>> 26.Ng4 Rh8 27.Ne5 Qe8 28.Qg4+ Kf8 29.Qd4 Nxd3 30.Ng6+ fxg6 31.Qxh8+ Ke7
>>>> 32.Qxe8+ Kxe8 33.Kxd3 b5 34.Re1 Ke7 35.Re5 g5 36.Rae1 Kf6 37.R5e4 Bd7
>>>> 38.h4 Rf8 39.c3 a5 40.Kd4 Rc8 41.f3 a4 42.Rc1 Ne7 43.Kd3 e5 44.Ke2 Be6
>>>> 45.Kf2 Bxa2 46.Rce1 Rc5 47.hxg5+ hxg5 48.f4 Ng6 49.fxe5+ Nxe5 50.Rd4 Rd5
>>>> 51.Rxd5 Bxd5 52.Ke3 Bc4 53.Rd1 Kf5 54.Rd4 Nd3 55.g4+ Ke5 56.Re4+ Kf6 0-1
>
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Date: 30 Nov 2008 01:57:14
From: B. Lafferty
Subject: Re: Polgar Backhands Dylan Mc Clain and Violates Copyright
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The Historian wrote:
> On Nov 29, 6:59 pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> From Polgar's blog today. When will she sue McClain and the times?
>>
>> CHESS; Timman Goes Astray On His Home Turf
>> By ROBERT BYRNE
>> Published: October 3, 1993
>> NY Times
>
> Why is she reprinting Robert Byrne's copyrighted material? And why are
> you doing it as well?
Look at the headline she used and several of the comments in which
McClain is not referenced in a flattering manner.
>
>> Timman, Jan (2620) - Karpov, Anatoly (2760) [B17]
>> FIDE-Wch NED/INA (1), 1993
>>
>> 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Bc4 Ngf6 6.Ng5 e6 7.Qe2 Nb6
>> 8.Bd3 h6 9.N5f3 c5 10.dxc5 Bxc5 11.Ne5 Nbd7 12.Ngf3 Qc7 13.Bf4 Bb4+
>> 14.Nd2 Bxd2+ 15.Kxd2 0-0 16.Rhd1 Qb6 17.Nc4 Qc6 18.Qf3 Nd5 19.g3 Nc5
>> 20.Bxh6 gxh6 21.Qg4+ Kh8 22.Ne5 Qa4 23.Qh5 Kg7 24.Ng4 Rh8 25.Ne5 Rf8
>> 26.Ng4 Rh8 27.Ne5 Qe8 28.Qg4+ Kf8 29.Qd4 Nxd3 30.Ng6+ fxg6 31.Qxh8+ Ke7
>> 32.Qxe8+ Kxe8 33.Kxd3 b5 34.Re1 Ke7 35.Re5 g5 36.Rae1 Kf6 37.R5e4 Bd7
>> 38.h4 Rf8 39.c3 a5 40.Kd4 Rc8 41.f3 a4 42.Rc1 Ne7 43.Kd3 e5 44.Ke2 Be6
>> 45.Kf2 Bxa2 46.Rce1 Rc5 47.hxg5+ hxg5 48.f4 Ng6 49.fxe5+ Nxe5 50.Rd4 Rd5
>> 51.Rxd5 Bxd5 52.Ke3 Bc4 53.Rd1 Kf5 54.Rd4 Nd3 55.g4+ Ke5 56.Re4+ Kf6 0-1
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