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Date: 08 Dec 2007 16:45:19
From: John Nagelson
Subject: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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Hello, I have just bought a wooden Thai chess (makruk) set, and would
like to weight the pieces somehow.
Does someone know where I might get hold of some steel discs, of
varying diameters up to about 20mm, and thickness maybe 4mm?
Cheers,
John
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Date: 10 Dec 2007 22:27:48
From: geoff
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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In message <[email protected] >, Owain
<[email protected] > writes
>nightjar <cpb@ wrote:
>>>Not in the U.S. The outer metal is Cu-Ni alloy other than pennies (Cu-
>>>Zn) and the dollar coins
>> As the two first groups in the list are UK based, I presume the OP is
>>interested in what is available in the UK :-)
>
>But you can buy two American pennies for one British penny at the moment :-)
>
If OPEC stop selling oil in dollars, you'll be able to buy a couple of
states for pennies
--
geoff
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Date: 10 Dec 2007 13:14:15
From: jim
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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On 9 Dec, 00:45, John Nagelson <[email protected] > wrote:
> Hello, I have just bought a wooden Thai chess (makruk) set, and would
> like to weight the pieces somehow.
>
> Does someone know where I might get hold of some steel discs,
1. IMHO steel is not dense enough for chess piece weights. Lead is
far better & easily obtainable from builders & plumbers & roofers
using lead sheet to waterproof roofs.
It is easily cut (for a one-off on small pieces use a wood chisel or
a stanley knife) & can be hammer pounded into lumps to suit whatever
size you want. As another poster suggested rebate the base of the
piece & use araldite to fix then cover with breen baize (felt as in
billiard tables).
2. Am intrigued as to where you managed to purchase a Thai chess set
(assuming it was in the UK). I have only read about Thai chess in
books.
HTH
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Date: 10 Dec 2007 10:19:32
From:
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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On Dec 10, 1:01 pm, "nightjar" <cpb@<insert my surname here >.me.uk>
wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> news:[email protected]...
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> > On Dec 10, 3:44 am, "nightjar" <cpb@<insert my surname here>.me.uk>
> > wrote:
> >> "Dave Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >> > ...Or you could use coins which are basically bronze, ...
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> >> For copper coins; only if you use ones that are dated 1992 or earlier.
> >> After
> >> that, they are plated steel.
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> >> Colin Bignell
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> > Not in the U.S. The outer metal is Cu-Ni alloy other than pennies (Cu-
> > Zn) and the dollar coins
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> As the two first groups in the list are UK based, I presume the OP is
> interested in what is available in the UK :-)
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> Colin Bignell- Hide quoted text -
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Right, but not everyone viewing is British. One source for lead
washers in the UK:
http://www.kellysearch.co.uk/gb-product-102791.html
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Date: 10 Dec 2007 09:39:36
From:
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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On Dec 10, 3:44 am, "nightjar" <cpb@<insert my surname here >.me.uk>
wrote:
> "Dave Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> news:[email protected]...
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> > ...Or you could use coins which are basically bronze, ...
>
> For copper coins; only if you use ones that are dated 1992 or earlier. After
> that, they are plated steel.
>
> Colin Bignell
Not in the U.S. The outer metal is Cu-Ni alloy other than pennies (Cu-
Zn) and the dollar coins
(a type of manganese brass):
http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/circulatingCoins/index.cfm?action=CircQuarterDollar
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Date: 10 Dec 2007 18:01:07
From: nightjar
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Dec 10, 3:44 am, "nightjar" <cpb@<insert my surname here>.me.uk>
> wrote:
>> "Dave Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> > ...Or you could use coins which are basically bronze, ...
>>
>> For copper coins; only if you use ones that are dated 1992 or earlier.
>> After
>> that, they are plated steel.
>>
>> Colin Bignell
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> Not in the U.S. The outer metal is Cu-Ni alloy other than pennies (Cu-
> Zn) and the dollar coins
As the two first groups in the list are UK based, I presume the OP is
interested in what is available in the UK :-)
Colin Bignell
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Date: 10 Dec 2007 20:43:56
From: Owain
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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nightjar <cpb@ wrote:
>>Not in the U.S. The outer metal is Cu-Ni alloy other than pennies (Cu-
>>Zn) and the dollar coins
> As the two first groups in the list are UK based, I presume the OP is
> interested in what is available in the UK :-)
But you can buy two American pennies for one British penny at the moment :-)
Owain
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Date: 09 Dec 2007 15:54:35
From: Dave Baker
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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"John Nagelson" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:638b8112-1783-433e-9797-82ee88a91271@r60g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> Hello, I have just bought a wooden Thai chess (makruk) set, and would
> like to weight the pieces somehow.
>
> Does someone know where I might get hold of some steel discs, of
> varying diameters up to about 20mm, and thickness maybe 4mm?
First of all I'd use brass or bronze rather than steel. They both have a
slightly higher density than steel and are a nicer material for such a use.
They won't rust for starters. Lead of course has an even higher density but
not by that much. Any sheet metal shop will stamp you out whatever you need
or part it off from bar stock. Or you could use coins which are basically
bronze, or brass washers which are available for pennies. You could fill the
holes in the middle with lead shot and glue a felt base over them.
--
Dave Baker - Puma Race Engines
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Date: 10 Dec 2007 08:44:26
From: nightjar
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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"Dave Baker" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> ...Or you could use coins which are basically bronze, ...
For copper coins; only if you use ones that are dated 1992 or earlier. After
that, they are plated steel.
Colin Bignell
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Date: 09 Dec 2007 07:03:33
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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On Dec 8, 7:45 pm, John Nagelson <[email protected] > wrote:
> Hello, I have just bought a wooden Thai chess (makruk) set, and would
> like to weight the pieces somehow.
>
> Does someone know where I might get hold of some steel discs, of
> varying diameters up to about 20mm, and thickness maybe 4mm?
Rather than using various disks of matching diameters, you might
want to consider drilling a short distance into the base of each
piece, inserting lead weights, sealing them in with glue or wood
putty, and then covering the base with felt, cut to fit the diameter.
Unlike the disks, these weights would be invisible, and the felt will
protect your board, whereas the disks might scratch it.
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Date: 09 Dec 2007 10:49:13
From: Ed Sirett
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 16:45:19 -0800, John Nagelson wrote:
> Hello, I have just bought a wooden Thai chess (makruk) set, and would
> like to weight the pieces somehow.
>
> Does someone know where I might get hold of some steel discs, of varying
> diameters up to about 20mm, and thickness maybe 4mm?
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
The knock out tab of electrical back boxes, steel, definitely 20mm and
about 1mm thick.
--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html
Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html
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Date: 09 Dec 2007 09:51:44
From: Lobster
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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John Nagelson wrote:
> Hello, I have just bought a wooden Thai chess (makruk) set, and would
> like to weight the pieces somehow.
>
> Does someone know where I might get hold of some steel discs, of
> varying diameters up to about 20mm, and thickness maybe 4mm?
You want some "penny washers" which look like
<http://www.screwfix.com/prods/14327/Bolts/Washers/M10-Steel-Large-Flat-Washers-BZP >
(the above is an example; it doesn't state the outside diameter).
Presumably the hole in the middle is of no concern, and you'd have to
glue several together as they'd only be about 1.5mm thick.
B&Q etc would probably have them; failing that asn engineering supplies
type place.
David
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Date: 09 Dec 2007 10:45:49
From: Cicero
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:51:44 +0000, Lobster wrote:
> John Nagelson wrote:
>> Hello, I have just bought a wooden Thai chess (makruk) set, and would
>> like to weight the pieces somehow.
>>
>> Does someone know where I might get hold of some steel discs, of varying
>> diameters up to about 20mm, and thickness maybe 4mm?
>
> You want some "penny washers" which look like
> <http://www.screwfix.com/prods/14327/Bolts/Washers/M10-Steel-Large-Flat-Washers-BZP>
> (the above is an example; it doesn't state the outside diameter).
> Presumably the hole in the middle is of no concern, and you'd have to glue
> several together as they'd only be about 1.5mm thick.
>
> B&Q etc would probably have them; failing that asn engineering supplies
> type place.
>
> David
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I don't think you would need 'penny washers' to get a 20mm diameter. An
ordinary M8 (possibly M10) heavy washer is about 20mm diameter. Screwfix
do them:
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/14190/Bolts/Washers/M8-Bright-Steel-Washers-BZP
They're not rare or unusual so any decent hardware store will have them.
Cic.
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Using Ubuntu Linux
Windows shown the door
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Date: 09 Dec 2007 03:17:00
From: Richard Perkin
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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John Nagelson <[email protected] > wrote in
news:[email protected]
m:
> Hello, I have just bought a wooden Thai chess (makruk) set, and
> would like to weight the pieces somehow.
>
> Does someone know where I might get hold of some steel discs, of
> varying diameters up to about 20mm, and thickness maybe 4mm?
A local engineering firm may make some up for you from steel bar for
beer/tobacco money. If you don't know of one, ask at a small
independent garage - they will know who undertakes small jobs.
Having said that, someone will come along in a few minutes and tell
us they're a common item :)
Hope this helps
--
Richard Perkin
To email me, change the <AT > in the address below
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is. If you don't, it's its. Then too, it's hers. It isn't her's.
It isn't our's either. It's ours, and likewise yours and theirs.
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Date: 09 Dec 2007 13:59:30
From: Steve Firth
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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Richard Perkin <[email protected] > wrote:
> John Nagelson <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]
> m:
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> > Hello, I have just bought a wooden Thai chess (makruk) set, and
> > would like to weight the pieces somehow.
> >
> > Does someone know where I might get hold of some steel discs, of
> > varying diameters up to about 20mm, and thickness maybe 4mm?
>
> A local engineering firm may make some up for you from steel bar for
> beer/tobacco money. If you don't know of one, ask at a small
> independent garage - they will know who undertakes small jobs.
The weights that my wife uses for curtains fit the description in most
respects, except they are lead, not steel. Commonly available from
fabric shops at reasonable prices.
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Date: 09 Dec 2007 06:51:13
From: Guy Macon
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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Richard Perkin wrote:
>
>John Nagelson wrote:
>
>> Hello, I have just bought a wooden Thai chess (makruk) set, and
>> would like to weight the pieces somehow.
>>
>> Does someone know where I might get hold of some steel discs, of
>> varying diameters up to about 20mm, and thickness maybe 4mm?
>
>A local engineering firm may make some up for you from steel bar for
>beer/tobacco money. If you don't know of one, ask at a small
>independent garage - they will know who undertakes small jobs.
>
>Having said that, someone will come along in a few minutes and tell
>us they're a common item :)
There is a better way. Turn the pieces upside down and fill
partially with epoxy (boating or autobody-shop, used for
repairing fiberglass -- a pint or so should be plenty) and
let set. Then make a layer of lead birdshot (available at
any gun shop; lots of shooters reload shotgun shells) and
pour more epoxy on top to hold the shot together. Finish off
with felt.
--
Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/ >
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Date: 09 Dec 2007 04:10:31
From: Clive George
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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"Richard Perkin" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John Nagelson <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]
> m:
>
>> Hello, I have just bought a wooden Thai chess (makruk) set, and
>> would like to weight the pieces somehow.
>>
>> Does someone know where I might get hold of some steel discs, of
>> varying diameters up to about 20mm, and thickness maybe 4mm?
>
> A local engineering firm may make some up for you from steel bar for
> beer/tobacco money. If you don't know of one, ask at a small
> independent garage - they will know who undertakes small jobs.
>
> Having said that, someone will come along in a few minutes and tell
> us they're a common item :)
Well, I can get hold of plated steel discs, 20.3mm diameter, about 1mm
thick, for about 1p each. From the bank :-)
cheers,
clive
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Date: 09 Dec 2007 01:56:30
From: Colin Wilson
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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> Does someone know where I might get hold of some steel discs, of
> varying diameters up to about 20mm, and thickness maybe 4mm?
Might not be quite what you're looking for, but google for "rare earth
magnets" (neodymium) - they come in the sort of dimensions you're
looking for, such as shown here:
http://www.first4magnets.com/circular-disc-magnets-8-c.asp
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Date: 09 Dec 2007 11:49:36
From: The Natural Philosopher
Subject: Re: Steel/iron discs, diameters up to 20mm, thickness say 4mm?
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Colin Wilson wrote:
>> Does someone know where I might get hold of some steel discs, of
>> varying diameters up to about 20mm, and thickness maybe 4mm?
>
> Might not be quite what you're looking for, but google for "rare earth
> magnets" (neodymium) - they come in the sort of dimensions you're
> looking for, such as shown here:
>
> http://www.first4magnets.com/circular-disc-magnets-8-c.asp
I missed the thread start, but you can get magnetic disks out of scrap
loudspeakers at your local tip.
neodymium mgantes are available all over the place.
Scrap floppy disk and CDROM drives will net you small ring ferrite
magnets and dish shape magnetic iron type parts.
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