The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

Date: 06 Aug 2008 12:49:49
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 5, 5:32 pm, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:

> Bill Hall is a very nice guy from what I have seen. I think he is in a
> position to effect little change and can't make a decision without
> permission from the board first. WHy don't they just sell the USCF to
> Bill Goichberg? At leat then it could be run as a business and there
> would be no pretence of having to be fair or honest about anything.

The problem is exactly that Bill Hall is a "nice guy". The USCF does
not need a "nice guy". The USCF needs right now a mean, nasty
son-of-a-gun who will return profits rather than the hundreds of
thousands of dollars that the USCF has lost every year that Bill Hall
has been executive director.

Even Bill Goichberg is not happy with Bill Hall, but Bill Goichberg
keeps Bill Hall anyway because Bill Hall is his yes-man. Bill Hall
does the bare minimum of what Bill Goichberg wants him to do to keep
his job.

What the USCF needs right now is a mean-son-of-gun who will fire an
employee in a second who is not doing a good job. That is what real
managers do in the real world of business.

I have such a person in mind but will not say his name until we
finally somehow get rid of Bill Hall.

Sam Sloan

Date: 06 Aug 2008 07:04:44
From: Rob
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 6, 7:49=A0am, [email protected] (Sam Sloan) wrote:
> On Aug 5, 5:32 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Bill Hall is a very nice guy from what I have seen. I think he is in a
> > position to effect little change and can't make a decision without
> > permission from the board first. WHy don't they just sell the USCF to
> > Bill Goichberg? At leat then it could be run as a business and there
> > would be no pretence of having to be fair or honest about anything.
>
> The problem is exactly that Bill Hall is a "nice guy". The USCF does
> not need a "nice guy". The USCF needs right now a mean, nasty
> son-of-a-gun who will return profits rather than the hundreds of
> thousands of dollars that the USCF has lost every year that Bill Hall
> has been executive director.
>
> Even Bill Goichberg is not happy with Bill Hall, but Bill Goichberg
> keeps Bill Hall anyway because Bill Hall is his yes-man. Bill Hall
> does the bare minimum of what Bill Goichberg wants him to do to keep
> his job.
>
> What the USCF needs right now is a mean-son-of-gun who will fire an
> employee in a second who is not doing a good job. That is what real
> managers do in the real world of business.
>
> I have such a person in mind but will not say his name until we
> finally somehow get rid of Bill Hall.
>
> Sam Sloan

Wow Sam. I am flattered!

Date: 06 Aug 2008 09:04:44
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

You rang?

Date: 11 Sep 2008 23:29:54
From: Vance
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Sep 11, 4:27=A0pm, "Krus T. Olfard" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <[email protected]> wrote innews=
:[email protected]:
>
>
>
> > In chess, the "game score" is really a GAME FILM.
>
> No, it's not.
>
> --
> I'm an opinionated bastard. Everything I post is my opinion. If you do
> not like my opinions then killfile me - if you like my opinions then send
> me money.
>
> The KTO Dictionary of Subjective Language
>
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> public but s/he is too disconnected to reality to realize it.
>
>

Date: 12 Sep 2008 12:03:17
From: thumbody
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

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t.

Date: 10 Sep 2008 21:50:15
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Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

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Date: 08 Aug 2008 16:46:35
From: Rob
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 8, 4:53=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote:
>
> > > Several <cits>, but I'm not going to waste them on
>
> > Proving a claim that YOU made?
>
> > How amusing.
>
> > --
> > --
> > Ray Gordon
>
> OK, cretin, let's try this: If you can get the Copyright Office to
> accept a chess game for copyright registration, I'll personally
> apologize to you. Since that will happen when pigs fly (sorry, didn't
> mean to insult your relatives), I'm not worried.
>
> Can't we set up a separate news group (alt.babbling.loons) so that
> people like Parker and MI-5 can drool at each other while not annoying
> the sane?

LOL

Date: 08 Aug 2008 14:53:12
From:
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote:
> > Several <cits>, but I'm not going to waste them on
>
> Proving a claim that YOU made?
>
> How amusing.
>
>
> --
> --
> Ray Gordon

OK, cretin, let's try this: If you can get the Copyright Office to
accept a chess game for copyright registration, I'll personally
apologize to you. Since that will happen when pigs fly (sorry, didn't
mean to insult your relatives), I'm not worried.

Can't we set up a separate news group (alt.babbling.loons) so that
people like Parker and MI-5 can drool at each other while not annoying
the sane?

Date: 11 Sep 2008 23:30:46
From: Krus T. Olfard
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

[email protected] wrote in news:0c351324-ad16-4e8b-aaf1-
[email protected]:

>
>
> Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote:
>> > Several <cits>, but I'm not going to waste them on
>>
>> Proving a claim that YOU made?
>>
>> How amusing.
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Ray Gordon
>
>
> OK, cretin, let's try this: If you can get the Copyright Office to
> accept a chess game for copyright registration, I'll personally
> apologize to you. Since that will happen when pigs fly (sorry, didn't
> mean to insult your relatives), I'm not worried.
>
> Can't we set up a separate news group (alt.babbling.loons) so that
> people like Parker and MI-5 can drool at each other while not annoying
> the sane?
>

gordon roy parker actually has a newsgroup solely dedicated to his
seduction rantings. It has no visiters and no posts, not even gordy roy.
Even gordon roy parker will not visit someplace dedicated to him.
To paraphrase Groucho, gordon roy parker would not visit a place that
would welcome someone like him.

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Date: 08 Aug 2008 03:02:23
From: Vance
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 7, 12:08=A0am, Frisco Del Rosario <[email protected] > wrote:
> In article
> <8261ba1d-7834-4a7b-9492-00539e53d...@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> =A0Vance <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Explain how "In chess, the 'game score' is really a GAME FILM", just
> > for giggles.
>
> It is, Vance. The score is a play-by-play record of the game, and
> undergoes the same post-game scrutiny.
>
> Just don't have the same cool NFL Films music.

I have seen the moves listed, but not the analysis. It makes more
sense now.

Thanks for the enlightenment.

Vance

Date: 07 Aug 2008 06:46:57
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote:
> > Several <cits>, but I'm not going to waste them on
>
> Proving a claim that YOU made?
>
> How amusing.

Kinda what everybody thought about Gordo in his latest thread, "USCF
is paper-blitzing me."

Hypocrite.

Date: 07 Aug 2008 15:38:01
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

"Matt Nemmers" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:187a3043-491b-444c-bee8-fbf4d204d1aa@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

there you are, navy-guy! - sorry about claiming our game, i owe you 4
points, or 8?

meanwhile we got us our own mil-chess writer at chessville [andy h], and he
is concentrating mostly on tactics, and he is getting big applause for that,
as well as mil-chess mentions. i mentioned you to a captain-fella who was
organising the joint-mil this year, but you was out of circulation

anyway, some mil-gal came second! i don't think any mil-gal ever even
qualified before

---

as for nice guys - to be on topic - its all very well to be cute, innit -
but when you are in the thick of things you don't want no nice guy calling
the shots, since obliging brass often means screwing the troops, at least,
that is the general opinion about generals and PFC's. in this instance we
got a few hundred thousand bucks adrift in 2 years, and there doesn't seem
to be any other way than to cover losses but to relieve people of their
salaries - that's maybe 8 people

what's a bit of a joke about this thread so far, is that no one actually
knows whats going on, and what the deal is in re-upping the guys contract,
who could do it, or if there's a choice, and i even wonder if degates are
getting the straight financial poop? - apart from that, its all blue-skies

am stacking cord wood, about 8 tons in 2 weeks, not bad for my age, and
between severe non-stop thunder storms. dog doesn't know which is more
boring, stacking wood or boom booms. i accused her of smelling yesterday,
and she gave me such a reproachful look I immediately took a shower

yo, phil

Date: 08 Aug 2008 15:41:22
From: thumbody
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

Chess One wrote:
.
> am stacking cord wood, about 8 tons in 2 weeks, not bad for my age, and
> between severe non-stop thunder storms. dog doesn't know which is more
> boring, stacking wood or boom booms. i accused her of smelling yesterday,
> and she gave me such a reproachful look I immediately took a shower
>
> yo, phil

Phil, why do you feel impelled to excoriate the uscf so? you aren't a
member & they should go under & trouble us less in the c21st -
hopefully..

More to the point - do beagles smell? - My hounds smelled of lavender,
rosewood & leather except when the one that pwnd me took it into her
silly doggy-head to roll on a dead seal washed ashore & completely
saturate her coat with gruesome stink. The other two hounds stood off a
bit because they knew I was running towards them choker in hand in my
welly-boots screaming. She was quite subversive the one that pwnd me, in
her way..

Ah well, yes, I suppose you could describe East Anglia as the
'flatlands' it's directly across from the Netherlands with only a
stretch of water in-between. There was some sort of naval exchange,
where cannons were fired against the Dutch from the clifftops in I think
the early c17th. It wasn't particularly serious & the Dutch successfully
captured an important English ship which I believe was later ransomed
back..

More recently, because of it's flatness it was a favoured locale for
Allied runways in their determined fight against the evil nazis..

http://untoldvalor.blogspot.com/2008/01/photos-of-air-bases-in-england-today.html

And, of course before any of this had eventuated & in the vacuum left by
Roman withdrawal this level tranche of the Sceptred Isle was too
tempting a prospect for marauding hordes of warlike Angles & Saxons to
resist. Their rampage of rape, pillage, murder & establishment of
piggeries was only thrown back by Noble horsemen somewhere over where
modern-day Wales is today..

You asked me once before if I knew what cord wood was, well the ans. to
that is no. Does sound like a lot of timber though. Within context
'cord' suggests some sort of vehicular conveyance. Timmy Grimes had one
once or something similar. Devil of a job to get started - 6volt battery
system if memory serves..

t.

Date: 08 Aug 2008 09:02:09
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

"thumbody" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Chess One wrote:
> .
>> am stacking cord wood, about 8 tons in 2 weeks, not bad for my age, and
>> between severe non-stop thunder storms. dog doesn't know which is more
>> boring, stacking wood or boom booms. i accused her of smelling yesterday,
>> and she gave me such a reproachful look I immediately took a shower
>>
>> yo, phil
>
> Phil, why do you feel impelled to excoriate the uscf so?

Dear t, my reference above to my dog was not, at least not consciously, a
reference to USCF

> you aren't a
> member & they should go under & trouble us less in the c21st -
> hopefully..

USCF these days are no more than a rating service for kids which comprise
the majority of their membership, and who turn-over at the alarming rate of
about 85% every two years.

In the sense of organising anything else, you can see that sending a
national US team to the Mind Games event seems like a very late
afterthought, and USCF no longer finances the main national championships
which it administers. etc. Its magazine is atrocious, neither fish nor fowl,
and uncertainly fit for any level of playing chess.

But that's not why I excoriate it!

Its because of the active and passive interference it feels obliged to
perform in the lives of those who try to do more than it itself does to
promote chess. Most advocates of USCF talk about preserving the
institutional before they ever talk of promoting chess, and usually don't
get around to that second subject at all - yet that is what it was
established to do.

> More to the point - do beagles smell?

Course they smell! Nine tenth's of the time they travel around at high speed
with their noses mapping the territory. But I expect you mean do we smell
the dog?

> - My hounds smelled of lavender,
> rosewood & leather except when the one that pwnd me took it into her
> silly doggy-head to roll on a dead seal washed ashore & completely
> saturate her coat with gruesome stink.

Right! That is a particular feature of hound dogs. I have a theory that they
try to disguise their own smell, which is a hunting instinct, so that the
fox will think, "Oh, that's just a dead rat/sea-lion/squirrel I can smell,
no problems!"

> The other two hounds stood off a
> bit because they knew I was running towards them choker in hand in my
> welly-boots screaming. She was quite subversive the one that pwnd me, in
> her way..
>
> Ah well, yes, I suppose you could describe East Anglia as the
> 'flatlands' it's directly across from the Netherlands with only a
> stretch of water in-between.

Just read a fantastic book about The Wild Places - Brit naturalist goes all
over the Islands, including Fens, and even wild Essex! In an old copse there
he found a strange building now totally overgrown, and discovered that its
builder was a Celtic-Christian monk from Lindisfarne sent south to cultivate
the errant Saxons, who, like USCF, were wont to fall into sluggish and
depraved behaviors. On the altar he found varieties of stone embedded, and
identified them as from Lindisfarne, Iona, etc.

As well as describing migratory birds [especially hawks & specific raptors]
and insect life, he also comments on the low-land Fens generally.

> There was some sort of naval exchange,
> where cannons were fired against the Dutch from the clifftops in I think
> the early c17th. It wasn't particularly serious & the Dutch successfully
> captured an important English ship which I believe was later ransomed
> back..
>
> More recently, because of it's flatness it was a favoured locale for
> Allied runways in their determined fight against the evil nazis..
>
>
> http://untoldvalor.blogspot.com/2008/01/photos-of-air-bases-in-england-today.html
>
> And, of course before any of this had eventuated & in the vacuum left by
> Roman withdrawal this level tranche of the Sceptred Isle was too
> tempting a prospect for marauding hordes of warlike Angles & Saxons to
> resist. Their rampage of rape, pillage, murder & establishment of
> piggeries was only thrown back by Noble horsemen somewhere over where
> modern-day Wales is today..

Go Arthur! Them Saxons were 'Danes' - you can still hear that
Danish/Icelandic long "A", no? From the time of the Danelagh/Dane Law.

> You asked me once before if I knew what cord wood was, well the ans. to
> that is no. Does sound like a lot of timber though. Within context
> 'cord' suggests some sort of vehicular conveyance. Timmy Grimes had one
> once or something similar. Devil of a job to get started - 6volt battery
> system if memory serves..

I live in a state which is 80% forest. Its a very small state, about 2 hours
east west [average, but across a spine of mountains, the northern
appalachian range] and 3.5 hours travel north south down either of 2 big
valleys, the Connecticut or the Champlain.

Very many people here heat with efficient wood stoves [oddly, from
Scandinavia] and the cord is a measure of cut logs: 128 cubic feet (3.62
cubic meters). The term cord is C17th, when the stacked wood was measured by
a cord - being the official measure then and now.

They are 'wet' when you receive them, meaning they are still full of sap -
so stacking the wood so that both ends of the logs are exposed to air and
sun is necessary [average summer temps here about 20F higher than where you
are]. The wood is almost always split to expose more surface for burning,
but you can buy cords split or whole. Its mostly hardwood here [worth a
fortune in UK!] and when dry weighs about 30% less, and burns much better.
Catalytic combustors also re-burn emissions removing pollutants and gaining
more heat. Since our Winter temps are also radically lower than in UK
[sometimes temperatures not getting up to freezing for an entire month, and
going as low as -20F, and winter being 5 months of the year...] then a
relatively large amount of heating is required.

A cord has about the same BTU value as 155 gallons of heating oil [here
about $4.50 per gallon]

The non-hypenated cordwood is something else altogether, and not American
usage [at least, I never heard it here] but an older English one where round
logs are inserted into walls with their ends exposed, and these are a
strengthening factor for the wall - and sometimes even forming an internal
beam.

Phil

> t.

Date: 11 Sep 2008 05:50:53
From: thumbody
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

.
> > Chess One wrote:
> > .
> >> am stacking cord wood, about 8 tons in 2 weeks, not bad for my age, and
> >> between severe non-stop thunder storms. dog doesn't know which is more
> >> boring, stacking wood or boom booms. i accused her of smelling yesterday,
> >> and she gave me such a reproachful look I immediately took a shower
> >>
> >> yo, phil
> >
> > Phil, why do you feel impelled to excoriate the uscf so?
>
> Dear t, my reference above to my dog was not, at least not consciously, a
> reference to USCF

Dear Phil,

It's the 2nd week of spring here already - the sun is about but also
some cloud. I'm cleaning up my news/reader (an ancient
netscape/navigator-3) & also if you could just drop me off the half
tonne of Iraqi gold, a nicely restored Triton motorcycle as well as a
Fiesler Storch it would be much appreciated..
.
> USCF these days are no more than a rating service for kids which comprise
> the majority of their membership, and who turn-over at the alarming rate of
> about 85% every two years.
>
> In the sense of organising anything else, you can see that sending a
> national US team to the Mind Games event seems like a very late
> afterthought, and USCF no longer finances the main national championships
> which it administers. etc. Its magazine is atrocious, neither fish nor fowl,
> and uncertainly fit for any level of playing chess.
>
> But that's not why I excoriate it!
>
> Its because of the active and passive interference it feels obliged to
> perform in the lives of those who try to do more than it itself does to
> promote chess. Most advocates of USCF talk about preserving the
> institutional before they ever talk of promoting chess, and usually don't
> get around to that second subject at all - yet that is what it was
> established to do.
>
> > More to the point - do beagles smell?
>
> Course they smell! Nine tenth's of the time they travel around at high speed
> with their noses mapping the territory. But I expect you mean do we smell
> the dog?
>
> > - My hounds smelled of lavender,
> > rosewood & leather except when the one that pwnd me took it into her
> > silly doggy-head to roll on a dead seal washed ashore & completely
> > saturate her coat with gruesome stink.
>
> Right! That is a particular feature of hound dogs. I have a theory that they
> try to disguise their own smell, which is a hunting instinct, so that the
> fox will think, "Oh, that's just a dead rat/sea-lion/squirrel I can smell,
> no problems!"

Could be. Another thing about covering themselves in a common stink is
that they won't lose track of each-other as the hunt progresses. See &
smell the African wild dog for example. Also their tail-tips are
invariably white making it easier for the human master to keep tabs on
'em as they move through succulent meadow-grass..
.
> > Ah well, yes, I suppose you could describe East Anglia as the
> > 'flatlands' it's directly across from the Netherlands with only a
> > stretch of water in-between.
>
> Just read a fantastic book about The Wild Places - Brit naturalist goes all
> over the Islands, including Fens, and even wild Essex! In an old copse there
> he found a strange building now totally overgrown, and discovered that its
> builder was a Celtic-Christian monk from Lindisfarne sent south to cultivate
> the errant Saxons, who, like USCF, were wont to fall into sluggish and
> depraved behaviors. On the altar he found varieties of stone embedded, and
> identified them as from Lindisfarne, Iona, etc.

Yes, I believe there's more than one 'holy island' dotted around the
uk..

> As well as describing migratory birds [especially hawks & specific raptors]
> and insect life, he also comments on the low-land Fens generally.

Well y'know, the first time I came across the term 'raptor' was in some
hollywood reptillian extravaganza & not being an orthodoxicologist by
trade I just figured it was some made-up word. Just shows you how wrong
one can be - Incidentally any idea what's going on here:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/cern-special-the-9-billion-dollar-question-924345.html
? Perhaps bot might add his tuppence'wrth here as I do feel it concerns
us all - for instance this installation renders all previous
installations irrelevant?..

> > And, of course before any of this had eventuated & in the vacuum left by
> > Roman withdrawal this level tranche of the Sceptred Isle was too
> > tempting a prospect for marauding hordes of warlike Angles & Saxons to
> > resist. Their rampage of rape, pillage, murder & establishment of
> > piggeries was only thrown back by Noble horsemen somewhere over where
> > modern-day Wales is today..
>
> Go Arthur! Them Saxons were 'Danes' - you can still hear that
> Danish/Icelandic long "A", no? From the time of the Danelagh/Dane Law.

Oh! so that was Arfur - eh?. I've heard of the 'dane-law' some sort of
tribute paid to vikings, rovers & roustabouts not so sure of the aaaaaa
tho..

.
> Very many people here heat with efficient wood stoves [oddly, from
> Scandinavia] and the cord is a measure of cut logs: 128 cubic feet (3.62
> cubic meters). The term cord is C17th, when the stacked wood was measured by
> a cord - being the official measure then and now.
.
> A cord has about the same BTU value as 155 gallons of heating oil [here
> about $4.50 per gallon]
>
> The non-hypenated cordwood is something else altogether, and not American
> usage [at least, I never heard it here] but an older English one where round
> logs are inserted into walls with their ends exposed, and these are a
> strengthening factor for the wall - and sometimes even forming an internal
> beam.
>
> Phil

t.

Date: 07 Aug 2008 02:58:24
From:
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote:
> > Talk to your congresscritter. Copyright on games has been rejected by
> > the courts for nearly a century.
>
> Got cite?
>
> No the SCORE of a game. Saying that one player beat another isn't what I'm
> talking about.
>
> In chess, the "game score" is really a GAME FILM.
>
>
> --
> --
> Ray Gordon

Several, but I'm not going to waste them on a moron like you. (You
might start by looking up Alexander Rueb, a copyright lawyer and the
first president of FIDE.) The courts (and the U.S. Copyright Office)
have consistently taken the position that the moves of a game are a
fact/event. Facts can't be copyrighted. This is not the same thing as
a film of a football game, a creative work which can be copyrighted.
Anybody can watch a football game and report the results, but only the
owner can reproduce a tape or film. This is kindergarten stuff. Of
course, complete pointlessness ha never stopped you from filing
lawsuits. By all means waste more of your time.

Date: 07 Aug 2008 09:32:24
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

> Several <cits>, but I'm not going to waste them on

Proving a claim that YOU made?

How amusing.

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Date: 07 Aug 2008 01:03:54
From: help bot
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 7, 3:08=A0am, Frisco Del Rosario <[email protected] > wrote:

> > Explain how "In chess, the 'game score' is really a GAME FILM", just
> > for giggles.
>
> It is, Vance. The score is a play-by-play record of the game, and
> undergoes the same post-game scrutiny.
>
> Just don't have the same cool NFL Films music.

Also, doesn't a game score lack the awesome
sound effects, zoom and slow-motion aspects
of a "cool NFL film"? My games are so boring
compared to the bone-crushing, slow-motion
highlights of NFL games. Maybe they can cut
out the parts where we are thinking, and just
show hands smashing into one another in a
time-scramble near the end of a hard-fought
game. Zoom in, add some grunting and
groaning, then switch to the flag as it falls in
slow-motion... .

-- help bot

Date: 06 Aug 2008 23:26:33
From: Vance
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 6, 8:00=A0pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
<[email protected] > wrote:
> > Talk to your congresscritter. Copyright on games has been rejected by
> > the courts for nearly a century.
>
> Got cite?
>
> No the SCORE of a game. =A0Saying that one player beat another isn't what=
I'm
> talking about.
>
> In chess, the "game score" is really a GAME FILM.
>

Explain how "In chess, the 'game score' is really a GAME FILM", just
for giggles.

Date: 07 Aug 2008 00:08:25
From: Frisco Del Rosario
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

In article
<8261ba1d-7834-4a7b-9492-00539e53d7c0@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com >,
Vance <[email protected] > wrote:

> Explain how "In chess, the 'game score' is really a GAME FILM", just
> for giggles.

It is, Vance. The score is a play-by-play record of the game, and
undergoes the same post-game scrutiny.

Just don't have the same cool NFL Films music.

Date: 06 Aug 2008 17:50:37
From:
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote:
> ADD: Protection of game copyrights and player right to publicity. Look at
> NFL Films.
>
>
> --
> --
> Ray Gordon

Talk to your congresscritter. Copyright on games has been rejected by
the courts for nearly a century. That's not going to change unless
Congress changes the law.

Date: 06 Aug 2008 23:00:55
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

> Talk to your congresscritter. Copyright on games has been rejected by
> the courts for nearly a century.

Got cite?

No the SCORE of a game. Saying that one player beat another isn't what I'm
talking about.

In chess, the "game score" is really a GAME FILM.

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Date: 11 Sep 2008 23:27:00
From: Krus T. Olfard
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <[email protected] > wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> In chess, the "game score" is really a GAME FILM.
>
>

No, it's not.

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Date: 07 Aug 2008 02:22:53
From: Non scrivetemi
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

In article <[email protected] >
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> You rang?

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Date: 06 Aug 2008 10:34:33
From: SBD
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 6, 9:28 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:

>
> By the way, do you know the name of the hospital where Frank Niro was
> the administrator?
>
> That's funny. Nobody else does either.

I did Sam because I included him in an article I wrote on hospital
administration. The article about him was fairly easy to find.

Date: 06 Aug 2008 07:58:54
From: Rob
Subject: What Sloan doesn't know?

On Aug 6, 9:28=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Aug 6, 9:04 am, SBD <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The question of who would be an effective leader is interesting.
>
> > But based on Sam's criteria, one would have thought Niro would have
> > made the best ED - all that hospital experience, finding ways to make
> > profits, no problems in laying off employees, etc.....
>
> Niro did not fire anybody. To the contrary, he wrote, "There is not a
> person here that I do not want to keep".
>
> After Niro disappeared and $600,000 plus the USCF's laptop computer
> disappeared at the same time, Beatriz Marinello came in and fired 17
> people in one day, August 20, 2003.
>
> That is what we need to survive right now.
>
> By the way, do you know the name of the hospital where Frank Niro was
> the administrator?
>
> That's funny. Nobody else does either.
>
> Sam Sloan

Yes they do. Funny you don't know.

Date: 06 Aug 2008 07:28:59
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 6, 9:04 am, SBD <[email protected] > wrote:
> The question of who would be an effective leader is interesting.
>
> But based on Sam's criteria, one would have thought Niro would have
> made the best ED - all that hospital experience, finding ways to make
> profits, no problems in laying off employees, etc.....

Niro did not fire anybody. To the contrary, he wrote, "There is not a
person here that I do not want to keep".

After Niro disappeared and $600,000 plus the USCF's laptop computer
disappeared at the same time, Beatriz Marinello came in and fired 17
people in one day, August 20, 2003.

That is what we need to survive right now.

By the way, do you know the name of the hospital where Frank Niro was
the administrator?

That's funny. Nobody else does either.

Sam Sloan

Date: 06 Aug 2008 07:04:19
From: SBD
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

The question of who would be an effective leader is interesting.

But based on Sam's criteria, one would have thought Niro would have
made the best ED - all that hospital experience, finding ways to make
profits, no problems in laying off employees, etc.....

And then why was Edmondson such a qualified success (did much good,
much bad - at least in the long-term)? Did he do too much or did
people simply not follow his aggressive strategies later?

It would be a neat project for a graduate student in business. What is
needed to run the USCF and turn it around? I would say a charismatic
type who would indeed follow his own plan only.

But indeed could such a person last? Would the much-feared "Old Guard"
drive him out? (I personally find the whole "Old Guard" theory stupid
- you are simply talking about people who gained and have retained
power, much to the chagrin of those who would like to grab it away,
but aren't smart enough - listening, Phil?)

Date: 06 Aug 2008 13:06:31
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

ADD: Protection of game copyrights and player right to publicity. Look at
NFL Films.

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Date: 06 Aug 2008 13:06:08
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

> The question of who would be an effective leader is interesting.

1. Online magazine
2. Abolishing dues
3. Profitng per member on B&E
4. Partner with top players so they can sell products and profit from
increased distribution of free membership.
5. First-rate online server with rated online play

A better setup would be like ICC, where the server generates the revenue,
and everything else is provided (like ratings) peripherally.

ICC is almost like a chess federation unto itself. USCF missed that boat.

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Date: 06 Aug 2008 07:04:15
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 6, 8:04=A0am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
<[email protected] > wrote:
> You rang?

Actually, I did.

I'd like a Number 1, supersized, with a Dr. Pepper.

And step on it, fruitcake.

Date: 06 Aug 2008 06:26:04
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 6, 8:04 am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
<[email protected] > wrote:
> You rang?

Sorry, Ray, but you were not the person I had in mind as a future
executive director of the USCF.