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Date: 20 Jan 2009 00:39:23
From: help bot
Subject: Welcome back, Nutter
As anyone who has been reading this newsgroup for any
length of time is aware, the poster affectionately known in
some circles as "Liarry" or "Liarry Peanut" was driven into
remission by the incomparable Dr. Blair quotation bot.

So embarrassing were the recountings of Mr. Parr's own
words by the Blairbot, that for a while it looked like the
poor nutter had left us for good... but not so fast.

No, Dr. Blair is gone, and Mr. Parr, having dipped his
toe in a few times, now feels "safe" in re-emerging out
from under his slimy rock. Indeed, those test posts
appear to have established that there is little if any real
danger of a return of the fellow who almost single-
handedly purged rgc of one of its lowest creatures; it is
"safe" here now; no need to remain in hiding.


Thank goodness, for I was beginning to believe the
hype-- the stories that rgc was "dying" a slow and
painful death. The sort of death that comes when only
the Sannys and Dr. IMnes manage to keep the patient
just barely alive, despite all their best efforts. Now we
can expect the flourishing that comes with the return
of spring time, the full display of beauty of a ratpacker
reunion. Indeed, there will likely be feasting and
dancing and lots of wine.

We can once again expect to be regaled with tales of
"Russian" cheating -- so different from the home-grown
variety, you understand -- and wild accusations. Once
more there will be celebrations and endless obsessing
over Bobby Fischer, with a few apologies thrown in for
good measure.

We may be treated to stories of Pal Benko smacking
him, or of Bobby Fischer smacking Pal Benko; to
tales of how everything went wrong with the USCF and
with the FIDE, and all because of sinister Russians
and spineless delegates.

There will be endless denials of the facts about why
"Russia", as it was then called though including all of
the Soviet Union, was so successful in chess. It will
remind this writer of how Englanders seemingly denied
the emergence of Germany in chess, talking on and
on about their own preiminence long after its time had
passed.

Most of all, I anticipate the long-awaited discussions
of The Great War, between Mr. Parr, a man who
experienced things first-hand, and the talking heads
types, like Mr. Kingston and his ilk. I expect to
wonder at the marvelous forward projections of what
would have happened, if only... .

No, the great Dr. Blair did this newsgroup a huge
disservice by driving off one of our foremost members,
just on account of his habitual lying and ad hominiz
ing. For without such lowly worms, rgc is doomed
to annihilation; to a slow and painful death by lack of
variety, a lack of showmanship, a lack of what Mr.
Blackburne once gave to the chess world, with his
drunkenness, his balder and his dash... .

In my mind I am playing the music to the old TV
sit-com, Welcome Back, Kotter. Only the word is
not Kotter. Welcome back, welcome back,
welcome back.


-- help bot











 
Date: 25 Jan 2009 12:45:08
From:
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 25, 2:27=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote:
> THE POISON EXUDES
>
> <Just for kicks, I bought one of these contraptions. They had a shark,
> a swordfish, a goldfish, a dolphin, trout etc. I bought the mechanical
> swordfish. Greg bought the mechanical carp.> -- Taylor Kingston
>
> One wonders whether the toy store in question has a plastic model of
> the Nautilus submarine that also ran on baking soda. =A0I know. =A0I had
> one in my bathtub. =A0Wish I still had it.

They still make those, Larry. My kids gave me one for Christmas a
few years ago. Just like the one I saved my box-tops for back in the
1950s. A few relevant links:

http://www.teachersource.com/Density/FloatingAndSinking/DivingSubmarine.asp=
x
http://www.amazon.com/item_name-6158-Diving-Sub/dp/B000CIO56U

Though that's a bit different design from what I had back in the
day. I think this one is closer to what you have in mind:

http://tinyurl.com/b76q33

> This writer obviously hit Greg Kennedy on the snout when suggesting he
> has had some recent personal difficulties, and I have been enjoying
> his increasingly abusive postings directed at yours truly. =A0You poke
> Greg, our nidus of infection, and the poison exudes.
>
> Next week or the week thereafter, I will likely revisit the themes
> that so provoke the =A0couldah been a contendah guy if only he had been
> exposed to the thriving chess scene in New York instead of the void in
> Indiana, so that we can have another display of his bile and envy of
> grandmasters.
>
> Cruel? =A0A character failing on my part?
>
> Yes to both questions. =A0But, alas, none of us is perfect.
>
> Yours, Larry Parr
>
>
>
> [email protected] wrote:
> > On Jan 23, 8:29 am, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Jan 22, 5:54 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > =A0 It's unclear what alternate reality Greg is remembering, but he=
re in
> > > > this universe Dr. Blair and I got along quite well, in basic agreem=
ent
> > > > virtually
>
> > > =A0 Virtually?
>
> > > > all the time. Besides being on the same side in virtually
> > > > every dispute
>
> > > =A0 "Virtually" again; what's with all these insertions
> > > of weasel-words? =A0 One would think someone was
> > > attempting to dig an emergency escape route. =A0LOL!
>
> > > > we enjoyed exchanging historical information. I was
> > > > never "mincemeat pie" material for him, nor he for me.
>
> > > =A0 It goes without saying that the great Dr. Blair
> > > could never be made into a pie by the likes of
> > > Mr. Kingston. =A0 =A0However, in my relatively few
> > > recent trips down Memory Lane, the poor chap
> > > has appeared, here and there, in the midst of
> > > Dr. Blair's lampooning of the poor sap, Mr.
> > > Parr.
>
> > > =A0 I find it most enjoyable to note those cases
> > > where I had somehow missed a show or two,
> > > most often starring our resident laughingstock,
> > > Mr. Parr, but not always. =A0 =A0There were side-
> > > shows, you see, in which were featured the
> > > lesser talents; among these were Phillip the
> > > Great of Innes, among others.
>
> > > =A0 As I wrote earlier, Dr. Blair's "favorite" seems
> > > to have been Mr. Parr, and it was he who most
> > > often stole the show; took the cake; grabbed
> > > the limelight. =A0 =A0The spectacle of Mr. Kingston
> > > and his flip-flopping about, to and fro on the
> > > subject of an article written by Mr. Evans, was
> > > a mere side-show. =A0 In fact, Dr. Blair's purpose
> > > in that affair was to demonstrate how Mr. Parr
> > > had deliberately "left out" quite a few items in
> > > his varying accounts of the events.
>
> > > =A0 Those key items, put back into their places,
> > > converted Mr. Parr's almost-believeable story
> > > into an obvious lie-- and one worthy of him, I
> > > might add, for the proud liar does not shy
> > > away from almost-clever tactics such as his.
>
> > > =A0 In this one instance, perhaps it was wrong
> > > of me to suggest that it was Dr. Blair who
> > > had made a fool of Mr. Kingston. =A0 No, I think
> > > the job had been done before Dr. Blair ever
> > > arrived on the scene-- by Mr. Kingston him-
> > > self! =A0 =A0 A fish out of water, his flipping and
> > > flopping on the issue is what did him in, not
> > > Dr. Blair's mere recounting of the facts in
> > > their proper order. =A0 If I suggested otherwise,
> > > I thus stand corrected.
>
> > > =A0 -- help bot
>
> > =A0 In a local mall here is a big store called Christmas Tree Shops. Th=
e
> > name notwithstading, they've got a little of everything, from lawn
> > furniture to cookware. They also have a toy department. Browsing
> > through there one day, I noticed a bunch of retro water toys, such as
> > plastic frogmen and submarines that dive and resurface with the help
> > of baking powder, like Kellog's used to put in cereal boxes. They also
> > had a bunch of wind-up bathtub toys in the shape of various fish. Wind
> > 'em up, and the tail fin wiggles, pushing the fishy through the
> > water.
> > =A0 Just for kicks, I bought one of these contraptions. They had a
> > shark, a swordfish, a goldfish, a dolphin, trout etc. I bought the
> > mechanical swordfish.
> > =A0 Greg bought the mechanical carp.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 23:27:49
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter

THE POISON EXUDES

<Just for kicks, I bought one of these contraptions. They had a shark,
a swordfish, a goldfish, a dolphin, trout etc. I bought the mechanical
swordfish. Greg bought the mechanical carp. > -- Taylor Kingston

One wonders whether the toy store in question has a plastic model of
the Nautilus submarine that also ran on baking soda. I know. I had
one in my bathtub. Wish I still had it.

This writer obviously hit Greg Kennedy on the snout when suggesting he
has had some recent personal difficulties, and I have been enjoying
his increasingly abusive postings directed at yours truly. You poke
Greg, our nidus of infection, and the poison exudes.

Next week or the week thereafter, I will likely revisit the themes
that so provoke the couldah been a contendah guy if only he had been
exposed to the thriving chess scene in New York instead of the void in
Indiana, so that we can have another display of his bile and envy of
grandmasters.

Cruel? A character failing on my part?

Yes to both questions. But, alas, none of us is perfect.

Yours, Larry Parr



[email protected] wrote:
> On Jan 23, 8:29 am, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jan 22, 5:54 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > > It's unclear what alternate reality Greg is remembering, but here in
> > > this universe Dr. Blair and I got along quite well, in basic agreement
> > > virtually
> >
> > Virtually?
> >
> > > all the time. Besides being on the same side in virtually
> > > every dispute
> >
> > "Virtually" again; what's with all these insertions
> > of weasel-words? One would think someone was
> > attempting to dig an emergency escape route. LOL!
> >
> > > we enjoyed exchanging historical information. I was
> > > never "mincemeat pie" material for him, nor he for me.
> >
> > It goes without saying that the great Dr. Blair
> > could never be made into a pie by the likes of
> > Mr. Kingston. However, in my relatively few
> > recent trips down Memory Lane, the poor chap
> > has appeared, here and there, in the midst of
> > Dr. Blair's lampooning of the poor sap, Mr.
> > Parr.
> >
> > I find it most enjoyable to note those cases
> > where I had somehow missed a show or two,
> > most often starring our resident laughingstock,
> > Mr. Parr, but not always. There were side-
> > shows, you see, in which were featured the
> > lesser talents; among these were Phillip the
> > Great of Innes, among others.
> >
> > As I wrote earlier, Dr. Blair's "favorite" seems
> > to have been Mr. Parr, and it was he who most
> > often stole the show; took the cake; grabbed
> > the limelight. The spectacle of Mr. Kingston
> > and his flip-flopping about, to and fro on the
> > subject of an article written by Mr. Evans, was
> > a mere side-show. In fact, Dr. Blair's purpose
> > in that affair was to demonstrate how Mr. Parr
> > had deliberately "left out" quite a few items in
> > his varying accounts of the events.
> >
> > Those key items, put back into their places,
> > converted Mr. Parr's almost-believeable story
> > into an obvious lie-- and one worthy of him, I
> > might add, for the proud liar does not shy
> > away from almost-clever tactics such as his.
> >
> > In this one instance, perhaps it was wrong
> > of me to suggest that it was Dr. Blair who
> > had made a fool of Mr. Kingston. No, I think
> > the job had been done before Dr. Blair ever
> > arrived on the scene-- by Mr. Kingston him-
> > self! A fish out of water, his flipping and
> > flopping on the issue is what did him in, not
> > Dr. Blair's mere recounting of the facts in
> > their proper order. If I suggested otherwise,
> > I thus stand corrected.
> >
> > -- help bot
>
> In a local mall here is a big store called Christmas Tree Shops. The
> name notwithstading, they've got a little of everything, from lawn
> furniture to cookware. They also have a toy department. Browsing
> through there one day, I noticed a bunch of retro water toys, such as
> plastic frogmen and submarines that dive and resurface with the help
> of baking powder, like Kellog's used to put in cereal boxes. They also
> had a bunch of wind-up bathtub toys in the shape of various fish. Wind
> 'em up, and the tail fin wiggles, pushing the fishy through the
> water.
> Just for kicks, I bought one of these contraptions. They had a
> shark, a swordfish, a goldfish, a dolphin, trout etc. I bought the
> mechanical swordfish.
> Greg bought the mechanical carp.


 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 06:51:30
From:
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 23, 8:29=A0am, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 22, 5:54=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > =A0 It's unclear what alternate reality Greg is remembering, but here i=
n
> > this universe Dr. Blair and I got along quite well, in basic agreement
> > virtually
>
> =A0 Virtually?
>
> > all the time. Besides being on the same side in virtually
> > every dispute
>
> =A0 "Virtually" again; what's with all these insertions
> of weasel-words? =A0 One would think someone was
> attempting to dig an emergency escape route. =A0LOL!
>
> > we enjoyed exchanging historical information. I was
> > never "mincemeat pie" material for him, nor he for me.
>
> =A0 It goes without saying that the great Dr. Blair
> could never be made into a pie by the likes of
> Mr. Kingston. =A0 =A0However, in my relatively few
> recent trips down Memory Lane, the poor chap
> has appeared, here and there, in the midst of
> Dr. Blair's lampooning of the poor sap, Mr.
> Parr.
>
> =A0 I find it most enjoyable to note those cases
> where I had somehow missed a show or two,
> most often starring our resident laughingstock,
> Mr. Parr, but not always. =A0 =A0There were side-
> shows, you see, in which were featured the
> lesser talents; among these were Phillip the
> Great of Innes, among others.
>
> =A0 As I wrote earlier, Dr. Blair's "favorite" seems
> to have been Mr. Parr, and it was he who most
> often stole the show; took the cake; grabbed
> the limelight. =A0 =A0The spectacle of Mr. Kingston
> and his flip-flopping about, to and fro on the
> subject of an article written by Mr. Evans, was
> a mere side-show. =A0 In fact, Dr. Blair's purpose
> in that affair was to demonstrate how Mr. Parr
> had deliberately "left out" quite a few items in
> his varying accounts of the events.
>
> =A0 Those key items, put back into their places,
> converted Mr. Parr's almost-believeable story
> into an obvious lie-- and one worthy of him, I
> might add, for the proud liar does not shy
> away from almost-clever tactics such as his.
>
> =A0 In this one instance, perhaps it was wrong
> of me to suggest that it was Dr. Blair who
> had made a fool of Mr. Kingston. =A0 No, I think
> the job had been done before Dr. Blair ever
> arrived on the scene-- by Mr. Kingston him-
> self! =A0 =A0 A fish out of water, his flipping and
> flopping on the issue is what did him in, not
> Dr. Blair's mere recounting of the facts in
> their proper order. =A0 If I suggested otherwise,
> I thus stand corrected.
>
> =A0 -- help bot

In a local mall here is a big store called Christmas Tree Shops. The
name notwithstading, they've got a little of everything, from lawn
furniture to cookware. They also have a toy department. Browsing
through there one day, I noticed a bunch of retro water toys, such as
plastic frogmen and submarines that dive and resurface with the help
of baking powder, like Kellog's used to put in cereal boxes. They also
had a bunch of wind-up bathtub toys in the shape of various fish. Wind
'em up, and the tail fin wiggles, pushing the fishy through the
water.
Just for kicks, I bought one of these contraptions. They had a
shark, a swordfish, a goldfish, a dolphin, trout etc. I bought the
mechanical swordfish.
Greg bought the mechanical carp.


 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 05:29:49
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 22, 5:54=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:

> =A0 It's unclear what alternate reality Greg is remembering, but here in
> this universe Dr. Blair and I got along quite well, in basic agreement
> virtually


Virtually?


> all the time. Besides being on the same side in virtually
> every dispute


"Virtually" again; what's with all these insertions
of weasel-words? One would think someone was
attempting to dig an emergency escape route. LOL!


> we enjoyed exchanging historical information. I was
> never "mincemeat pie" material for him, nor he for me.


It goes without saying that the great Dr. Blair
could never be made into a pie by the likes of
Mr. Kingston. However, in my relatively few
recent trips down Memory Lane, the poor chap
has appeared, here and there, in the midst of
Dr. Blair's lampooning of the poor sap, Mr.
Parr.

I find it most enjoyable to note those cases
where I had somehow missed a show or two,
most often starring our resident laughingstock,
Mr. Parr, but not always. There were side-
shows, you see, in which were featured the
lesser talents; among these were Phillip the
Great of Innes, among others.

As I wrote earlier, Dr. Blair's "favorite" seems
to have been Mr. Parr, and it was he who most
often stole the show; took the cake; grabbed
the limelight. The spectacle of Mr. Kingston
and his flip-flopping about, to and fro on the
subject of an article written by Mr. Evans, was
a mere side-show. In fact, Dr. Blair's purpose
in that affair was to demonstrate how Mr. Parr
had deliberately "left out" quite a few items in
his varying accounts of the events.

Those key items, put back into their places,
converted Mr. Parr's almost-believeable story
into an obvious lie-- and one worthy of him, I
might add, for the proud liar does not shy
away from almost-clever tactics such as his.

In this one instance, perhaps it was wrong
of me to suggest that it was Dr. Blair who
had made a fool of Mr. Kingston. No, I think
the job had been done before Dr. Blair ever
arrived on the scene-- by Mr. Kingston him-
self! A fish out of water, his flipping and
flopping on the issue is what did him in, not
Dr. Blair's mere recounting of the facts in
their proper order. If I suggested otherwise,
I thus stand corrected.


-- help bot









 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 14:54:55
From:
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 22, 5:24=A0pm, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> =A0 They say that laughter is good for one's
> health, and thus an occasional trip down
> Memory Lane seems in order, for what could
> be funnier than to re-live those good old days
> when Dr. Blair was making mincemeat pies
> of such greats as LP and TK. =A0

It's unclear what alternate reality Greg is remembering, but here in
this universe Dr. Blair and I got along quite well, in basic agreement
virtually all the time. Besides being on the same side in virtually
every dispute, we enjoyed exchanging historical information. I was
never "mincemeat pie" material for him, nor he for me.


 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 14:24:03
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 21, 5:29=A0pm, None <[email protected] > wrote:

> > > > =A0 Hmmm, just as Parr and I agree on help-bot, so, I think, do Inn=
es
> > > > and I agree on you. Feel free to return, permanently, to the rock f=
rom
> > > > under which you have crawled.

> > > Crybaby...remember, you are judged by the company you keep.


A quick trip down Memory Lane reveals that
not long ago, Mr. Parr and his "buddy-buddy"
pal, Mr. Kingston, were at one another's
throats, like savage dogs.

It seems that in the course of discussing the
issue of Mr. Evans' astounding dishonesty,
the two men were nearly squared-off for one of
Mr. Parr's patented lie-detector test duels.

Indeed, one finds a multitude of interesting
"observations" by the pair, including Mr. Parr
determining that Mr. Kingston was, in his own
words, "a pathological liar". Now, doesn't it
seem only fitting and proper that the two of
these chaps should get all cozy and snuggly,
being after all, birds of a feather.

They say that laughter is good for one's
health, and thus an occasional trip down
Memory Lane seems in order, for what could
be funnier than to re-live those good old days
when Dr. Blair was making mincemeat pies
of such greats as LP and TK. The good
doctor Blair had Mr. Parr's number, that's for
certain.

While Mr. Parr was attempting to accuse
his numerous adversaries (for defending Mr.
Evans was a never-ending task, you under-
stand) of refusing to answer difficult ques-
tions, Dr. Blair would now and again show
up to "remind" Mr. Parr and rgc readers that
there were /many/ such questions put to Mr.
Parr himself, who seemed always unwilling
to give any straight answer, preferring the
tactic of "radio silence" in the vain hope his
interrogators would eventually forget all-
together.

The patience and persistence of Dr. Blair
was remarkable, for his targets were of no
real importance, their bloviating, often
without any substance, rhyme or reason.
I am reminded of a line from an old movie:
"It's something t do".
And just as The Great Pedant, Edward
Winter, has made a "special effort" toward
schooling Mr. Keene, it seemed to me that
Dr. Blair was rather fond of Mr. Parr in much
the same way. Teacher's pet, I think it is
called... .


-- help bot






 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 17:57:34
From: madams
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
None wrote:
.
> whether explicityly or implicitly - but useless to engage with people
> don't know their own emotions. --Phil Innes
>
> And you limesuckers still live in the past. Let me quote your
> countryman - "The only thing you done was yesterday
> ..."

Hard to name things still on the drawing board but 1) Dyson vacuum

2) Hovercraft

3) VTOL

m.


 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 15:40:23
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 21, 5:34=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:

> > > It was a joke you moron.

> > =A0 Hmmm, just as Parr and I agree on help-bot, so, I think


That has yet to be established.


> > do Innes
> > and I agree on you. Feel free to return, permanently, to the rock from
> > under which you have crawled.

> Let me say that I do not agree with whatever is exposed here. Neither
> do I ever like any superior person talking down. If =A0We, the People is
> not enough for you, then emigrate, citizen!


Thrown out there like a good drone.

The question is, emigrate /to where/?

As we know, the average 'Murican cannot
speak but one language-- 'Murican, and is
therefore hopelessly lost anywhere else but
on native soil, which is to say that soil "we"
stole from the Indians we killed or stuck out
in the desert on what we call reservations
(which were remarkably similar to what the
Nazis called something else).

Hence, the idea of telling folks you don't
like to move elsewhere presumes a nice,
smooth "relocation" to an un-named
paradise in some undetermined locale, for
the obvious reason that it does not exist.
[Oops.]


> I shall not tolerate help-bot


Grude match?!!


> nor make any patronage on his posts - he
> is an intelligent person utilizing what we working folk know, and that
> is about how things actually feel.


The way I heard it is a little different than
you describe. You see, I heard that once
a fellow gets tenure, he... well, he is like a
sea slug, which re-absorbs its own brain
(no longer needed after achieving tenure,
you understand) to conserve precious
energy. (And that was from a Brit.)


> This is a large topic. Rash people will leap in.


That same terse style as Hemmingway--
perhaps the only writer of note after
whatshisface.


> You Yanks are all overcome by recent events - and emotional about it -
> whether explicityly or implicitly - but useless to engage with people
> don't know their own emotions.


Er, this was all discussed at some length
back shortly after 9/11/2001. It seems that
Noreasterners were more than a bit wanky
about generalizations concerning the USA
getting her due chickens home to roost, on
account of mass hysteria in that sector.
Now, we are getting "lectured" by one of
the hysterics from the Noreast on why we
ought not be so emotional... .

Reporting from the faraway land of Middle
'Murica,

help bot





 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 15:18:56
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 21, 3:18=A0pm, None <[email protected] > wrote:

> Moral stand? From a racist like our Larry? Perhaps our Larry will
> comment on the new state of affairs at the White House.


One /understands/ that all moral stands by Mr. Parr
are taken as a matter of convenience to his latest
sophistries and whims.

For instance, when Mr. Parr wanted to smear the
president of FIDE (and when didn't he want to do
that?), he simply on a whim decided to take up the
cause of helping the USCF make practical decisions,
without bothering to worry over "the rule of law" and
whatnot. Some time later, again on a whim, the
situation called for an about-face, with the rule-of-law
requiring that one reserve judgment on matters
pertaining to Mr. Sloan and his adversaries, PT &
SP.


> It seems our new president in a supreme act of nepotism


Please! A little respect for the man who will
one day be practically worshipped as a god, this
JFK and his brother RK.


> went and
> appointed his mother-in-law as the chief of the White House staff.


I don't remember that. What I do remember
is this very interesting "affair" which involved the
lovely Marilyn Monroe, who of course was "delt
with" when she eventually became an embarr-
assment to the president (a very powerful man
as we now know, much like the kingpin of the
mafia).


> And don't you know the first thing she did was fire all of the
> housekeeping staff, the kitchen staff, and the servants. We're told
> she intends to replace them all with white people.


With "white" people? Where can one find
enough of those to fill all the positions in
question? Look, what they need to do is
hire people of all colors-- red, white, blue
and yes, even the state colors of the District
of Columbia, whatever those are. Oh-- and
a few of them need to be able to cook.


-- help bot









 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 15:05:16
From: None
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 21, 5:34=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> > > It was a joke you moron.
>
> > =A0 Hmmm, just as Parr and I agree on help-bot, so, I think, do Innes
> > and I agree on you. Feel free to return, permanently, to the rock from
> > under which you have crawled.
>
> Let me say that I do not agree with whatever is exposed here. Neither
> do I ever like any superior person talking down. If =A0We, the People is
> not enough for you, then emigrate, citizen!
>
> I shall not tolerate help-bot nor make any patronage on his posts - he
> is an intelligent person utilizing what we working folk know, and that
> is about how things actually feel.
>
> This is a large topic. Rash people will leap in. For myself, I can
> wait awhile until I express my point, or even not do so if it seems to
> only please others that it needs defence.
>
> You Yanks are all overcome by recent events - and emotional about it -
> whether explicityly or implicitly - but useless to engage with people
> don't know their own emotions.
>
> Phil Innes

You Yanks are all overcome by recent events - and emotional about it
-
whether explicityly or implicitly - but useless to engage with people
don't know their own emotions. --Phil Innes

And you limesuckers still live in the past. Let me quote your
countryman - "The only thing you done was yesterday
..."




 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 14:34:38
From:
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter

> > It was a joke you moron.
>
> =A0 Hmmm, just as Parr and I agree on help-bot, so, I think, do Innes
> and I agree on you. Feel free to return, permanently, to the rock from
> under which you have crawled.

Let me say that I do not agree with whatever is exposed here. Neither
do I ever like any superior person talking down. If We, the People is
not enough for you, then emigrate, citizen!

I shall not tolerate help-bot nor make any patronage on his posts - he
is an intelligent person utilizing what we working folk know, and that
is about how things actually feel.

This is a large topic. Rash people will leap in. For myself, I can
wait awhile until I express my point, or even not do so if it seems to
only please others that it needs defence.

You Yanks are all overcome by recent events - and emotional about it -
whether explicityly or implicitly - but useless to engage with people
don't know their own emotions.

Phil Innes





 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 14:29:59
From: None
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 21, 4:54=A0pm, Taylor Kingston <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 21, 4:28=A0pm, None <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 21, 4:18=A0pm, Taylor Kingston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 21, 4:14=A0pm, None <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 21, 3:37=A0pm, Taylor Kingston <[email protected]> wr=
ote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 21, 3:18=A0pm, None <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Moral stand? From a racist like our Larry? Perhaps our Larry wi=
ll
> > > > > > comment on the new state of affairs at the White House.
>
> > > > > > It seems our new president in a supreme act of nepotism went an=
d
> > > > > > appointed his mother-in-law as the chief of the White House sta=
ff.
>
> > > > > =A0 Where has this been reported? According to this report:
>
> > > > > =A0http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27576931/
>
> > > > > Obama's chief of staff is a man named Rahm Emanuel. And according=
to
> > > > > today's New York Times:
>
> > > > > =A0http://tinyurl.com/9tunf6
>
> > > > > all that is going on with Obama's mother-in-law is that she will =
be
> > > > > living in the White House, at least for the time being, mainly to=
help
> > > > > the children settle in. This is hardly unprecedented, and does no=
t
> > > > > constitute nepotism.
>
> > > > > > And
> > > > > > don't you know the first thing she did was fire all of the
> > > > > > housekeeping staff, the kitchen staff, and the servants. We're =
told
> > > > > > she intends to replace them all with white people.
>
> > > > > =A0 The NY Times article says no such thing, and I have read toda=
y
> > > > > another article that specifically states the current White House =
chef
> > > > > is to be retained, directly contradicting your claim:
>
> > > > > =A0 "Michelle Obama also made another hotly awaited decision: She=
's
> > > > > keeping the White House chef. Cristeta Comerford took the job in =
2005
> > > > > and is the first woman and first minority to serve as executive
> > > > > chef."
>
> > > > > =A0One suspects you are merely spreading vicious rumors.
>
> > > > It was a joke you moron.
>
> > > =A0 Hmmm, just as Parr and I agree on help-bot, so, I think, do Innes
> > > and I agree on you. Feel free to return, permanently, to the rock fro=
m
> > > under which you have crawled.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Crybaby...remember, you are judged by the company you keep.
>
> =A0 Right. That's why I won't be keeping company with you.- Hide quoted t=
ext -
>
> - Show quoted text -

And in return I shall never accuse you of having a sense of humour.


 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 13:54:32
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 21, 4:28=A0pm, None <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 21, 4:18=A0pm, Taylor Kingston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 21, 4:14=A0pm, None <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 21, 3:37=A0pm, Taylor Kingston <[email protected]> wrot=
e:
>
> > > > On Jan 21, 3:18=A0pm, None <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Moral stand? From a racist like our Larry? Perhaps our Larry will
> > > > > comment on the new state of affairs at the White House.
>
> > > > > It seems our new president in a supreme act of nepotism went and
> > > > > appointed his mother-in-law as the chief of the White House staff=
.
>
> > > > =A0 Where has this been reported? According to this report:
>
> > > > =A0http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27576931/
>
> > > > Obama's chief of staff is a man named Rahm Emanuel. And according t=
o
> > > > today's New York Times:
>
> > > > =A0http://tinyurl.com/9tunf6
>
> > > > all that is going on with Obama's mother-in-law is that she will be
> > > > living in the White House, at least for the time being, mainly to h=
elp
> > > > the children settle in. This is hardly unprecedented, and does not
> > > > constitute nepotism.
>
> > > > > And
> > > > > don't you know the first thing she did was fire all of the
> > > > > housekeeping staff, the kitchen staff, and the servants. We're to=
ld
> > > > > she intends to replace them all with white people.
>
> > > > =A0 The NY Times article says no such thing, and I have read today
> > > > another article that specifically states the current White House ch=
ef
> > > > is to be retained, directly contradicting your claim:
>
> > > > =A0 "Michelle Obama also made another hotly awaited decision: She's
> > > > keeping the White House chef. Cristeta Comerford took the job in 20=
05
> > > > and is the first woman and first minority to serve as executive
> > > > chef."
>
> > > > =A0One suspects you are merely spreading vicious rumors.
>
> > > It was a joke you moron.
>
> > =A0 Hmmm, just as Parr and I agree on help-bot, so, I think, do Innes
> > and I agree on you. Feel free to return, permanently, to the rock from
> > under which you have crawled.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Crybaby...remember, you are judged by the company you keep.

Right. That's why I won't be keeping company with you.


 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 13:28:55
From: None
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 21, 4:18=A0pm, Taylor Kingston <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 21, 4:14=A0pm, None <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 21, 3:37=A0pm, Taylor Kingston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 21, 3:18=A0pm, None <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Moral stand? From a racist like our Larry? Perhaps our Larry will
> > > > comment on the new state of affairs at the White House.
>
> > > > It seems our new president in a supreme act of nepotism went and
> > > > appointed his mother-in-law as the chief of the White House staff.
>
> > > =A0 Where has this been reported? According to this report:
>
> > > =A0http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27576931/
>
> > > Obama's chief of staff is a man named Rahm Emanuel. And according to
> > > today's New York Times:
>
> > > =A0http://tinyurl.com/9tunf6
>
> > > all that is going on with Obama's mother-in-law is that she will be
> > > living in the White House, at least for the time being, mainly to hel=
p
> > > the children settle in. This is hardly unprecedented, and does not
> > > constitute nepotism.
>
> > > > And
> > > > don't you know the first thing she did was fire all of the
> > > > housekeeping staff, the kitchen staff, and the servants. We're told
> > > > she intends to replace them all with white people.
>
> > > =A0 The NY Times article says no such thing, and I have read today
> > > another article that specifically states the current White House chef
> > > is to be retained, directly contradicting your claim:
>
> > > =A0 "Michelle Obama also made another hotly awaited decision: She's
> > > keeping the White House chef. Cristeta Comerford took the job in 2005
> > > and is the first woman and first minority to serve as executive
> > > chef."
>
> > > =A0One suspects you are merely spreading vicious rumors.
>
> > It was a joke you moron.
>
> =A0 Hmmm, just as Parr and I agree on help-bot, so, I think, do Innes
> and I agree on you. Feel free to return, permanently, to the rock from
> under which you have crawled.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Crybaby...remember, you are judged by the company you keep.


 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 13:18:06
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 21, 4:14=A0pm, None <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 21, 3:37=A0pm, Taylor Kingston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 21, 3:18=A0pm, None <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Moral stand? From a racist like our Larry? Perhaps our Larry will
> > > comment on the new state of affairs at the White House.
>
> > > It seems our new president in a supreme act of nepotism went and
> > > appointed his mother-in-law as the chief of the White House staff.
>
> > =A0 Where has this been reported? According to this report:
>
> > =A0http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27576931/
>
> > Obama's chief of staff is a man named Rahm Emanuel. And according to
> > today's New York Times:
>
> > =A0http://tinyurl.com/9tunf6
>
> > all that is going on with Obama's mother-in-law is that she will be
> > living in the White House, at least for the time being, mainly to help
> > the children settle in. This is hardly unprecedented, and does not
> > constitute nepotism.
>
> > > And
> > > don't you know the first thing she did was fire all of the
> > > housekeeping staff, the kitchen staff, and the servants. We're told
> > > she intends to replace them all with white people.
>
> > =A0 The NY Times article says no such thing, and I have read today
> > another article that specifically states the current White House chef
> > is to be retained, directly contradicting your claim:
>
> > =A0 "Michelle Obama also made another hotly awaited decision: She's
> > keeping the White House chef. Cristeta Comerford took the job in 2005
> > and is the first woman and first minority to serve as executive
> > chef."
>
> > =A0One suspects you are merely spreading vicious rumors.
>
> It was a joke you moron.

Hmmm, just as Parr and I agree on help-bot, so, I think, do Innes
and I agree on you. Feel free to return, permanently, to the rock from
under which you have crawled.


 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 13:14:59
From: None
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 21, 3:37=A0pm, Taylor Kingston <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 21, 3:18=A0pm, None <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Moral stand? From a racist like our Larry? Perhaps our Larry will
> > comment on the new state of affairs at the White House.
>
> > It seems our new president in a supreme act of nepotism went and
> > appointed his mother-in-law as the chief of the White House staff.
>
> =A0 Where has this been reported? According to this report:
>
> =A0http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27576931/
>
> Obama's chief of staff is a man named Rahm Emanuel. And according to
> today's New York Times:
>
> =A0http://tinyurl.com/9tunf6
>
> all that is going on with Obama's mother-in-law is that she will be
> living in the White House, at least for the time being, mainly to help
> the children settle in. This is hardly unprecedented, and does not
> constitute nepotism.
>
> > And
> > don't you know the first thing she did was fire all of the
> > housekeeping staff, the kitchen staff, and the servants. We're told
> > she intends to replace them all with white people.
>
> =A0 The NY Times article says no such thing, and I have read today
> another article that specifically states the current White House chef
> is to be retained, directly contradicting your claim:
>
> =A0 "Michelle Obama also made another hotly awaited decision: She's
> keeping the White House chef. Cristeta Comerford took the job in 2005
> and is the first woman and first minority to serve as executive
> chef."
>
> =A0One suspects you are merely spreading vicious rumors.

It was a joke you moron.


 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 12:37:44
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 21, 3:18=A0pm, None <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> Moral stand? From a racist like our Larry? Perhaps our Larry will
> comment on the new state of affairs at the White House.
>
> It seems our new president in a supreme act of nepotism went and
> appointed his mother-in-law as the chief of the White House staff.

Where has this been reported? According to this report:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27576931/

Obama's chief of staff is a man named Rahm Emanuel. And according to
today's New York Times:

http://tinyurl.com/9tunf6

all that is going on with Obama's mother-in-law is that she will be
living in the White House, at least for the time being, mainly to help
the children settle in. This is hardly unprecedented, and does not
constitute nepotism.

> And
> don't you know the first thing she did was fire all of the
> housekeeping staff, the kitchen staff, and the servants. We're told
> she intends to replace them all with white people.

The NY Times article says no such thing, and I have read today
another article that specifically states the current White House chef
is to be retained, directly contradicting your claim:

"Michelle Obama also made another hotly awaited decision: She's
keeping the White House chef. Cristeta Comerford took the job in 2005
and is the first woman and first minority to serve as executive
chef."

One suspects you are merely spreading vicious rumors.


 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 12:18:33
From: None
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 21, 12:05=A0pm, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> =A0 =A0"I never left", mumbles the poor sap.
>
> =A0 Indeed, the muted presence of Mr. Parr -- a man
> variously called a liar and a nutter, among many
> others things -- has barely registered on the scales
> since the heyday of Dr. Blair, the chap who drove
> the poor fellow into remission.
>
> =A0 Recently, just for kicks, I looked back at a few
> of Dr. Blair's innumerable skewerings of such rgc
> "greats" as Mr. Parr, Dr. IMnes, and Mr. Kingston.
> =A0 While it is impossible to piece-together the real
> context of these old postings in their entirety, the
> exercise refreshed many fond memories.
>
> =A0 In particular, I was not aware -- or had simply
> forgotten -- that Dr. Blair had actually challenged
> Mr. Parr to a lie-detector test-- a challenge which
> was not accepted, but consistently *ducked*.
> =A0 My faulty recollection had it that Mr. Parr had
> constructed a "challenge", albeit one based on
> the idea of bluffing via the "demand" of $10K as
> a supposed wager, along with the fact that no
> test actually detects lies per se; what may be
> detected is the /stress/ a truth-teller likely feels
> when he dabbles in deception-- a stress no
> inveterate liar such as Mr. Parr could even hope
> to imagine.
>
> =A0 One memorable issue was the "true identity"
> of the sycophant "jr" (who followed Mr. Parr
> around in much the same way as Mr. Mitchell
> follows Dr. IMnes, fawning over his every post).
> =A0 While Dr. Blair amassed and presented con-
> siderable /evidence/ of "jr" being nothing more
> than a shill for Mr. Parr, the latter has presented
> mere speculations and projections of his own
> envy in support of his smear-campaigns against
> this writer and numerous other critics of the
> object of Mr. Parr's obvious envy.
>
> =A0 Of course, there were also dabblings in the
> easy-refutation of Dr. IMnes' many nuissance
> accusations, thrown out as chief toad-eater in
> "support" on Mr. Parr's behalf; one example
> had the poor Dr. IMnes -- terribly outclassed in
> this sort of thing -- accusing Dr. Blair of having
> made an "assertion", which he of course had
> never made. =A0 This was hardly even worth Dr.
> Blair's time, for he was several classes above
> such straw-man thrashing games at Dr. IMnes'
> Class D level (with no offense intended to Mr.
> Mitchell).
>
> =A0 The pesky Dr. Blair had an annoying habit of
> circumventing Mr. Parr's usual tactics via the
> quotation of LP's own words, snatched from
> earlier postings! =A0 Thus, the fact that Mr. Parr
> has long been quite the /bloviating sophist/
> worked to undermine each of his many new
> tricks and traps, for it appeared there was
> always some example or other of Mr. Parr
> having argued the opposite of his latest posi-
> tion, or even having taken a "moral" stand
> against it. =A0 ROFL!
>
> =A0 Now that Dr. Blair has apparently disappeared,
> it seems the ideal time for our beloved Mr. Parr
> to re-emerge from hiding, having nursed his
> wounds from all these Blairian intellectual
> shellackings. =A0 One looks forward to the return
> of such idiocies as Mr. Evans' blind acceptance
> of "mathematical proof" concerning Mr. Fischer's
> match demands; or the zany speculations
> concerning "proof" only a madman can see in
> the moves of a chess game, themselves. =A0It's
> going to be fun-- just like in the old days.
>
> =A0 -- help bot

Thus, the fact that Mr. Parr
has long been quite the /bloviating sophist/
worked to undermine each of his many new
tricks and traps, for it appeared there was
always some example or other of Mr. Parr
having argued the opposite of his latest posi-
tion, or even having taken a "moral" stand
against it. ROFL! -- help bot

Moral stand? From a racist like our Larry? Perhaps our Larry will
comment on the new state of affairs at the White House.

It seems our new president in a supreme act of nepotism went and
appointed his mother-in-law as the chief of the White House staff. And
don't you know the first thing she did was fire all of the
housekeeping staff, the kitchen staff, and the servants. We're told
she intends to replace them all with white people.





 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 09:05:55
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter

"I never left", mumbles the poor sap.

Indeed, the muted presence of Mr. Parr -- a man
variously called a liar and a nutter, among many
others things -- has barely registered on the scales
since the heyday of Dr. Blair, the chap who drove
the poor fellow into remission.

Recently, just for kicks, I looked back at a few
of Dr. Blair's innumerable skewerings of such rgc
"greats" as Mr. Parr, Dr. IMnes, and Mr. Kingston.
While it is impossible to piece-together the real
context of these old postings in their entirety, the
exercise refreshed many fond memories.

In particular, I was not aware -- or had simply
forgotten -- that Dr. Blair had actually challenged
Mr. Parr to a lie-detector test-- a challenge which
was not accepted, but consistently *ducked*.
My faulty recollection had it that Mr. Parr had
constructed a "challenge", albeit one based on
the idea of bluffing via the "demand" of $10K as
a supposed wager, along with the fact that no
test actually detects lies per se; what may be
detected is the /stress/ a truth-teller likely feels
when he dabbles in deception-- a stress no
inveterate liar such as Mr. Parr could even hope
to imagine.

One memorable issue was the "true identity"
of the sycophant "jr" (who followed Mr. Parr
around in much the same way as Mr. Mitchell
follows Dr. IMnes, fawning over his every post).
While Dr. Blair amassed and presented con-
siderable /evidence/ of "jr" being nothing more
than a shill for Mr. Parr, the latter has presented
mere speculations and projections of his own
envy in support of his smear-campaigns against
this writer and numerous other critics of the
object of Mr. Parr's obvious envy.

Of course, there were also dabblings in the
easy-refutation of Dr. IMnes' many nuissance
accusations, thrown out as chief toad-eater in
"support" on Mr. Parr's behalf; one example
had the poor Dr. IMnes -- terribly outclassed in
this sort of thing -- accusing Dr. Blair of having
made an "assertion", which he of course had
never made. This was hardly even worth Dr.
Blair's time, for he was several classes above
such straw-man thrashing games at Dr. IMnes'
Class D level (with no offense intended to Mr.
Mitchell).

The pesky Dr. Blair had an annoying habit of
circumventing Mr. Parr's usual tactics via the
quotation of LP's own words, snatched from
earlier postings! Thus, the fact that Mr. Parr
has long been quite the /bloviating sophist/
worked to undermine each of his many new
tricks and traps, for it appeared there was
always some example or other of Mr. Parr
having argued the opposite of his latest posi-
tion, or even having taken a "moral" stand
against it. ROFL!

Now that Dr. Blair has apparently disappeared,
it seems the ideal time for our beloved Mr. Parr
to re-emerge from hiding, having nursed his
wounds from all these Blairian intellectual
shellackings. One looks forward to the return
of such idiocies as Mr. Evans' blind acceptance
of "mathematical proof" concerning Mr. Fischer's
match demands; or the zany speculations
concerning "proof" only a madman can see in
the moves of a chess game, themselves. It's
going to be fun-- just like in the old days.


-- help bot






 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 13:39:53
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 20, 4:30=A0pm, None <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 20, 3:29=A0pm, Taylor Kingston <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jan 20, 3:23=A0pm, None <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > First, our Liarry with his archaic tomes and now Kingston with a copy
> > > of Batlett's [sic] Familar Quotations ca. 1920. Where will it all lea=
d?
>
> > =A0 No, The Oxford Dictionary of Quotations, 3rd edition, 1979. A very
> > useful book.
>
> You need a more recent one. That one won't have: " I did not have sex
> with that woman" nor " I didn't inhale."

I would never need those quotes, since I actually did both those
things.


 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 13:30:24
From: None
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 20, 3:29=A0pm, Taylor Kingston <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 20, 3:23=A0pm, None <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 20, 10:49=A0am, Taylor Kingston <[email protected]> wrote=
:
>
> > > On Jan 20, 10:05=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I NEVER LEFT
>
> > > > More comic relief from Greg Kennedy.
>
> > > > His history or perhaps more accurately gregstory is as accurate as =
his
> > > > claim, say, that Poland was independent of Russia at the time of WW=
I
> > > > or his imagining that Steinitz played 20 world title matches or his
> > > > utter innocence of Germany and Italy only becoming unified countrie=
s
> > > > in the 19th century.
>
> > > =A0 Heck, Larry, his ignorance is much more fundamental than that. Ju=
st
> > > a few days ago, he said that an egg cooks faster at a lower
> > > temperature than at a higher one. I quote from his post of January
> > > 15th: =A0"No; if the water boils at a /lower/ temperature, then it wi=
ll
> > > take /less time/ to cook an egg in Tibet than in San Diego -- all
> > > other things being equal."
> > > =A0 Of course, he was not alone. Phil Innes matched him on the ignora=
nce
> > > scale that same day by claiming that air pressure had no effect on
> > > water's boiling point: "Its so improbable that its likely one of thos=
e
> > > urban myth things, like crocodiles under New York City. Stands to
> > > reason that water doesn't care where it is, and its
> > > just subjective humans to whom it /seems/ to take longer, and so. Pur=
e
> > > psychology."
>
> > > > What is so astonishing about the man, one supposes, is how he has
> > > > cried and, arguendo, sought sympathy over never having enjoyed the
> > > > life he wanted as a great chess player and then claiming he pities
> > > > those who led the life he once averred to relish. =A0He then slippe=
d and
> > > > mentioned reading the Evans-Parr article on Alekhine so as to learn
> > > > what he hitherto had known not. =A0On one occasion he spoke about b=
eing
> > > > unable to read my long series of articles on Edward Winter because
> > > > they put him to sleep. =A0Forty-eight hours later, having forgottte=
n his
> > > > lie, he spoke of staying up all night reading the eight or nine lon=
g
> > > > articles.
>
> > > =A0 Perhaps Greg considers himself a "great soul" in the Emersonian
> > > sense. As Ralph Waldo said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin o=
f
> > > little minds." Greg may take this to mean that for him, facts are
> > > malleable things, to be altered as it suits the occasion.
>
> > > > As a boy I had a distempered puppy -- the sad thing. =A0Greg remind=
s one
> > > > of that poor cur except he has the human t and curse of
> > > > consciousness. =A0During the last 48 hours, Greg has been wearing h=
is
> > > > suffering on his e-net sleeve. =A0One wonders what happened in his =
life.
>
> > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Wrestlin=
g With
> > > > Pigs
> > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 05. Feb 2004 by Gav=
in
> > > > King
>
> > > > "I have to repeat this cliche to myself at least once a week: /Neve=
r
> > > > wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty and the pig loves it./
>
> > > > "One of the problems with online forums is that, naturally, they ar=
e
> > > > dominated by the people with the most time on their hands -- and by
> > > > the people with the most dogmatic views."
>
> > > > Yours, Larry Parr
>
> > > =A0 After all the disagreements Larry and I have had, I still shake m=
y
> > > head in wonderment that we should find ourselves so much in agreement
> > > about something. Then again, even Britain and France, or the USA and
> > > the USSR, could put aside their differences when it came to Germany.-=
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>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > =A0-- Perhaps Greg considers himself a "great soul" in the Emersonian
> > sense. As Ralph Waldo said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin
> > of
> > little minds."
>
> > First, our Liarry with his archaic tomes and now Kingston with a copy
> > of Batlett's [sic] Familar Quotations ca. 1920. Where will it all lead?
>
> =A0 No, The Oxford Dictionary of Quotations, 3rd edition, 1979. A very
> useful book.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You need a more recent one. That one won't have: " I did not have sex
with that woman" nor " I didn't inhale."


 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 12:29:23
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 20, 3:23=A0pm, None <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 20, 10:49=A0am, Taylor Kingston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 20, 10:05=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I NEVER LEFT
>
> > > More comic relief from Greg Kennedy.
>
> > > His history or perhaps more accurately gregstory is as accurate as hi=
s
> > > claim, say, that Poland was independent of Russia at the time of WWI
> > > or his imagining that Steinitz played 20 world title matches or his
> > > utter innocence of Germany and Italy only becoming unified countries
> > > in the 19th century.
>
> > =A0 Heck, Larry, his ignorance is much more fundamental than that. Just
> > a few days ago, he said that an egg cooks faster at a lower
> > temperature than at a higher one. I quote from his post of January
> > 15th: =A0"No; if the water boils at a /lower/ temperature, then it will
> > take /less time/ to cook an egg in Tibet than in San Diego -- all
> > other things being equal."
> > =A0 Of course, he was not alone. Phil Innes matched him on the ignoranc=
e
> > scale that same day by claiming that air pressure had no effect on
> > water's boiling point: "Its so improbable that its likely one of those
> > urban myth things, like crocodiles under New York City. Stands to
> > reason that water doesn't care where it is, and its
> > just subjective humans to whom it /seems/ to take longer, and so. Pure
> > psychology."
>
> > > What is so astonishing about the man, one supposes, is how he has
> > > cried and, arguendo, sought sympathy over never having enjoyed the
> > > life he wanted as a great chess player and then claiming he pities
> > > those who led the life he once averred to relish. =A0He then slipped =
and
> > > mentioned reading the Evans-Parr article on Alekhine so as to learn
> > > what he hitherto had known not. =A0On one occasion he spoke about bei=
ng
> > > unable to read my long series of articles on Edward Winter because
> > > they put him to sleep. =A0Forty-eight hours later, having forgottten =
his
> > > lie, he spoke of staying up all night reading the eight or nine long
> > > articles.
>
> > =A0 Perhaps Greg considers himself a "great soul" in the Emersonian
> > sense. As Ralph Waldo said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of
> > little minds." Greg may take this to mean that for him, facts are
> > malleable things, to be altered as it suits the occasion.
>
> > > As a boy I had a distempered puppy -- the sad thing. =A0Greg reminds =
one
> > > of that poor cur except he has the human t and curse of
> > > consciousness. =A0During the last 48 hours, Greg has been wearing his
> > > suffering on his e-net sleeve. =A0One wonders what happened in his li=
fe.
>
> > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Wrestling =
With
> > > Pigs
> > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 05. Feb 2004 by Gavin
> > > King
>
> > > "I have to repeat this cliche to myself at least once a week: /Never
> > > wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty and the pig loves it./
>
> > > "One of the problems with online forums is that, naturally, they are
> > > dominated by the people with the most time on their hands -- and by
> > > the people with the most dogmatic views."
>
> > > Yours, Larry Parr
>
> > =A0 After all the disagreements Larry and I have had, I still shake my
> > head in wonderment that we should find ourselves so much in agreement
> > about something. Then again, even Britain and France, or the USA and
> > the USSR, could put aside their differences when it came to Germany.- H=
ide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> =A0-- Perhaps Greg considers himself a "great soul" in the Emersonian
> sense. As Ralph Waldo said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin
> of
> little minds."
>
> First, our Liarry with his archaic tomes and now Kingston with a copy
> of Batlett's [sic] Familar Quotations ca. 1920. Where will it all lead?

No, The Oxford Dictionary of Quotations, 3rd edition, 1979. A very
useful book.


 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 12:23:47
From: None
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 20, 10:49=A0am, Taylor Kingston <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 20, 10:05=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I NEVER LEFT
>
> > More comic relief from Greg Kennedy.
>
> > His history or perhaps more accurately gregstory is as accurate as his
> > claim, say, that Poland was independent of Russia at the time of WWI
> > or his imagining that Steinitz played 20 world title matches or his
> > utter innocence of Germany and Italy only becoming unified countries
> > in the 19th century.
>
> =A0 Heck, Larry, his ignorance is much more fundamental than that. Just
> a few days ago, he said that an egg cooks faster at a lower
> temperature than at a higher one. I quote from his post of January
> 15th: =A0"No; if the water boils at a /lower/ temperature, then it will
> take /less time/ to cook an egg in Tibet than in San Diego -- all
> other things being equal."
> =A0 Of course, he was not alone. Phil Innes matched him on the ignorance
> scale that same day by claiming that air pressure had no effect on
> water's boiling point: "Its so improbable that its likely one of those
> urban myth things, like crocodiles under New York City. Stands to
> reason that water doesn't care where it is, and its
> just subjective humans to whom it /seems/ to take longer, and so. Pure
> psychology."
>
> > What is so astonishing about the man, one supposes, is how he has
> > cried and, arguendo, sought sympathy over never having enjoyed the
> > life he wanted as a great chess player and then claiming he pities
> > those who led the life he once averred to relish. =A0He then slipped an=
d
> > mentioned reading the Evans-Parr article on Alekhine so as to learn
> > what he hitherto had known not. =A0On one occasion he spoke about being
> > unable to read my long series of articles on Edward Winter because
> > they put him to sleep. =A0Forty-eight hours later, having forgottten hi=
s
> > lie, he spoke of staying up all night reading the eight or nine long
> > articles.
>
> =A0 Perhaps Greg considers himself a "great soul" in the Emersonian
> sense. As Ralph Waldo said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of
> little minds." Greg may take this to mean that for him, facts are
> malleable things, to be altered as it suits the occasion.
>
>
>
>
>
> > As a boy I had a distempered puppy -- the sad thing. =A0Greg reminds on=
e
> > of that poor cur except he has the human t and curse of
> > consciousness. =A0During the last 48 hours, Greg has been wearing his
> > suffering on his e-net sleeve. =A0One wonders what happened in his life=
.
>
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Wrestling Wi=
th
> > Pigs
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 05. Feb 2004 by Gavin
> > King
>
> > "I have to repeat this cliche to myself at least once a week: /Never
> > wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty and the pig loves it./
>
> > "One of the problems with online forums is that, naturally, they are
> > dominated by the people with the most time on their hands -- and by
> > the people with the most dogmatic views."
>
> > Yours, Larry Parr
>
> =A0 After all the disagreements Larry and I have had, I still shake my
> head in wonderment that we should find ourselves so much in agreement
> about something. Then again, even Britain and France, or the USA and
> the USSR, could put aside their differences when it came to Germany.- Hid=
e quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

-- Perhaps Greg considers himself a "great soul" in the Emersonian
sense. As Ralph Waldo said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin
of
little minds."

First, our Liarry with his archaic tomes and now Kingston with a copy
of Batlett's Familar Quotations ca. 1920. Where will it all lead?



 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 07:49:48
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
On Jan 20, 10:05=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote:
> I NEVER LEFT
>
> More comic relief from Greg Kennedy.
>
> His history or perhaps more accurately gregstory is as accurate as his
> claim, say, that Poland was independent of Russia at the time of WWI
> or his imagining that Steinitz played 20 world title matches or his
> utter innocence of Germany and Italy only becoming unified countries
> in the 19th century.

Heck, Larry, his ignorance is much more fundamental than that. Just
a few days ago, he said that an egg cooks faster at a lower
temperature than at a higher one. I quote from his post of January
15th: "No; if the water boils at a /lower/ temperature, then it will
take /less time/ to cook an egg in Tibet than in San Diego -- all
other things being equal."
Of course, he was not alone. Phil Innes matched him on the ignorance
scale that same day by claiming that air pressure had no effect on
water's boiling point: "Its so improbable that its likely one of those
urban myth things, like crocodiles under New York City. Stands to
reason that water doesn't care where it is, and its
just subjective humans to whom it /seems/ to take longer, and so. Pure
psychology."

> What is so astonishing about the man, one supposes, is how he has
> cried and, arguendo, sought sympathy over never having enjoyed the
> life he wanted as a great chess player and then claiming he pities
> those who led the life he once averred to relish. =A0He then slipped and
> mentioned reading the Evans-Parr article on Alekhine so as to learn
> what he hitherto had known not. =A0On one occasion he spoke about being
> unable to read my long series of articles on Edward Winter because
> they put him to sleep. =A0Forty-eight hours later, having forgottten his
> lie, he spoke of staying up all night reading the eight or nine long
> articles.

Perhaps Greg considers himself a "great soul" in the Emersonian
sense. As Ralph Waldo said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of
little minds." Greg may take this to mean that for him, facts are
malleable things, to be altered as it suits the occasion.

> As a boy I had a distempered puppy -- the sad thing. =A0Greg reminds one
> of that poor cur except he has the human t and curse of
> consciousness. =A0During the last 48 hours, Greg has been wearing his
> suffering on his e-net sleeve. =A0One wonders what happened in his life.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Wrestling With
> Pigs
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 05. Feb 2004 by Gavin
> King
>
> "I have to repeat this cliche to myself at least once a week: /Never
> wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty and the pig loves it./
>
> "One of the problems with online forums is that, naturally, they are
> dominated by the people with the most time on their hands -- and by
> the people with the most dogmatic views."
>
> Yours, Larry Parr

After all the disagreements Larry and I have had, I still shake my
head in wonderment that we should find ourselves so much in agreement
about something. Then again, even Britain and France, or the USA and
the USSR, could put aside their differences when it came to Germany.


 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 07:05:40
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Nutter
I NEVER LEFT

More comic relief from Greg Kennedy.

His history or perhaps more accurately gregstory is as accurate as his
claim, say, that Poland was independent of Russia at the time of WWI
or his imagining that Steinitz played 20 world title matches or his
utter innocence of Germany and Italy only becoming unified countries
in the 19th century.

What is so astonishing about the man, one supposes, is how he has
cried and, arguendo, sought sympathy over never having enjoyed the
life he wanted as a great chess player and then claiming he pities
those who led the life he once averred to relish. He then slipped and
mentioned reading the Evans-Parr article on Alekhine so as to learn
what he hitherto had known not. On one occasion he spoke about being
unable to read my long series of articles on Edward Winter because
they put him to sleep. Forty-eight hours later, having forgottten his
lie, he spoke of staying up all night reading the eight or nine long
articles.

As a boy I had a distempered puppy -- the sad thing. Greg reminds one
of that poor cur except he has the human t and curse of
consciousness. During the last 48 hours, Greg has been wearing his
suffering on his e-net sleeve. One wonders what happened in his life.


Wrestling With
Pigs
05. Feb 2004 by Gavin
King

"I have to repeat this cliche to myself at least once a week: /Never
wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty and the pig loves it./

"One of the problems with online forums is that, naturally, they are
dominated by the people with the most time on their hands -- and by
the people with the most dogmatic views."

Yours, Larry Parr












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> So embarrassing were the recountings of Mr. Parr's own
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> him, or of Bobby Fischer smacking Pal Benko; to
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> with the FIDE, and all because of sinister Russians
> and spineless delegates.
>
> There will be endless denials of the facts about why
> "Russia", as it was then called though including all of
> the Soviet Union, was so successful in chess. It will
> remind this writer of how Englanders seemingly denied
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> Most of all, I anticipate the long-awaited discussions
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