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Date: 09 Dec 2008 01:44:18
From: B. Lafferty
Subject: Who Should Pay?
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A hypothetical. A person breaks into someones home, steals a vase worth
enough to get them charged with a felony; they get hauled into court,
hire a lawyer and then demand of their victim that the victim indemnify
them for their attorney fees, other expenses of litigation and any
damage award for breaking, entering and stealing the vase. Sounds about
right coming from a miscreant, no?
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Date: 09 Dec 2008 20:12:31
From: gootie
Subject: Re: Who Should Pay?
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On Dec 8, 5:44=A0pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected] > wrote:
> A hypothetical. =A0A person breaks into someones home, steals a vase wort=
h
> enough to get them charged with a felony; they get hauled into court,
> hire a lawyer and then demand of their victim that the victim indemnify
> them for their attorney fees, other expenses of litigation and any
> damage award for breaking, entering and stealing the vase. =A0Sounds abou=
t
> right coming from a miscreant, no?
Archiving
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 05:27:07
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: gootie and greggie sleep together every night
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On Dec 10, 5:40=A0am, Nomen Nescio <[email protected] > wrote:
> 76.121.230.165 in stereo:
>
> From: Gregory <[email protected]>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.121.230.165
> Subject: Re: Gregory Alexander's Important Factually Incorrect Note
> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:36:30 -0700 (PDT)
> Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.politics
> Message-ID:
> <51a50b55-6ab5-4d68-88f6-05da3004d...@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
> Injection-Info: k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com; posting-host=3D76.121.230.1=
65;
> posting-account=3D24688AoAAADrYBx8mqhTaufQ7QhLzqzP
> User-Agent: G2/1.0
> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET
> CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>
> =A0+ + +
>
> From: gootie <[email protected]>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.121.230.165
> Subject: Re: Who Should Pay?
> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:12:31 -0800 (PST)
> Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
> Message-ID:
> <[email protected]>
> Injection-Info: e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com; posting-host=3D76.121.230.16=
5;
> posting-account=3DcVuK0QoAAAChVKNrBaqyHfrqXLah04l7
> User-Agent: G2/1.0
> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; WOW6=
4;
> FunWebProducts; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR
> 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30618),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
I didn't see "gooties" message. How odd.
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Date: 12 Dec 2008 13:50:05
From: Nomen Nescio
Subject: Re: gootie and greggie sleep together every night
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[email protected] may have written in rec.games.chess.politics...
> On Dec 10, 5:40 am, Nomen Nescio <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 76.121.230.165 in stereo:
> >
> > From: Gregory <[email protected]>
> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.121.230.165
> > Subject: Re: Gregory Alexander's Important Factually Incorrect Note
> > Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:36:30 -0700 (PDT)
> > Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.politics
> > Message-ID:
> > <51a50b55-6ab5-4d68-88f6-05da3004d...@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
> > Injection-Info: k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com; posting-host=3D76.121.230.165;
> > posting-account=3D24688AoAAADrYBx8mqhTaufQ7QhLzqzP
> > User-Agent: G2/1.0
> > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET
> > CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> >
> > + + +
> >
> > From: gootie <[email protected]>
> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.121.230.165
> > Subject: Re: Who Should Pay?
> > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:12:31 -0800 (PST)
> > Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
> > Message-ID:
> > <[email protected]>
> > Injection-Info: e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com; posting-host=3D76.121.230.165;
> > posting-account=3DcVuK0QoAAAChVKNrBaqyHfrqXLah04l7
> > User-Agent: G2/1.0
> > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; WOW64;
> > FunWebProducts; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR
> > 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30618),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>
> I didn't see "gooties" message. How odd.
Not at all odd.
greggie had second thoughts about it after he sent it, or originally
planned for it only to be temporary. What is certain is that he issued a
cancel almost immediately. This got honored by some news servers. The
message got into google, but then greggie nuked it from there.
That is the only way that my post, which had as a context header only this:
References:
<[email protected] >
was correctly tacked on by google to the thread started by Brian's bold
Message-ID: <S3k%[email protected] >.
Google managed this even though I had changed the subject (from "Who Should
Pay?" to "gootie and greggie sleep together every night") and the
webposting access I use only allows one MID in the References header.
Had Google's sweep never seen the post by gootenburgmen<at >gmail.com it
could not possibly have connected my post with Brian's post and put them in
the same thread.
Understood?
Why did greggie do what he did? Maybe, he did not realize his IP
76.121.230.165 was going to come through in the posting. Maybe not.
Probably just to psyche Brian. All that "gootie" had posted was this :
&&&&&&&&
On Dec 8, 5:44 pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected] > wrote:
> A hypothetical. A person breaks into someones home, steals a vase worth
> enough to get them charged with a felony; they get hauled into court,
> hire a lawyer and then demand of their victim that the victim indemnify
> them for their attorney fees, other expenses of litigation and any
> damage award for breaking, entering and stealing the vase. Sounds about
> right coming from a miscreant, no?
Archiving
&&&&&&&&
I think this was gootie/greggie's comment on Brian L's habit of archiving
some of the more disreputable "no archive" postings made by some of my
ruder anonymice "brethren". ;^)
Myself, I watch the farces of rec.games.chess.politics and the
endless/pointless Sloan-et-al lawsuits, and laugh. I seldom post other than
anonymously (and even that only rarely). Since Sloan's mission is to be as
famous/notorious as possible, for sure he has achieved that end. By the
nature of his lawsuits, web sites and xposting habits, Sloan has motivated
a small pack of remailer users who will probably poke at him from safety
for a few years to come, until they get bored with the game. The more he
calls them "Truong", the more attention Sam will get.
- > Not Sam or one of his camp followers, not Paul or one of his camp
followers
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 15:45:07
From: usenet patzer
Subject: Re: gootie and greggie sleep together every night
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[email protected] may have written in rec.games.chess.politics...
> On Dec 10, 5:40 am, Nomen Nescio <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 76.121.230.165 in stereo:
> >
> > From: Gregory <[email protected]>
> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.121.230.165
> > Subject: Re: Gregory Alexander's Important Factually Incorrect Note
> > Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:36:30 -0700 (PDT)
> > Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.politics
> > Message-ID:
> > <51a50b55-6ab5-4d68-88f6-05da3004d...@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
> > Injection-Info: k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com; posting-host=3D76.121.230.165;
> > posting-account=3D24688AoAAADrYBx8mqhTaufQ7QhLzqzP
> > User-Agent: G2/1.0
> > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET
> > CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> >
> > + + +
> >
> > From: gootie <[email protected]>
> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.121.230.165
> > Subject: Re: Who Should Pay?
> > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:12:31 -0800 (PST)
> > Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
> > Message-ID:
> > <[email protected]>
> > Injection-Info: e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com; posting-host=3D76.121.230.165;
> > posting-account=3DcVuK0QoAAAChVKNrBaqyHfrqXLah04l7
> > User-Agent: G2/1.0
> > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; WOW64;
> > FunWebProducts; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR
> > 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30618),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>
> I didn't see "gooties" message. How odd.
Not at all odd.
greggie had second thoughts about it after he sent it, or originally
planned for it only to be temporary. What is certain is that he issued a
cancel almost immediately. This got honored by some news servers. The
message got into google, but then greggie nuked it from there.
That is the only way that the N.N. post, which had as a context header only
this:
References:
<[email protected] >
was correctly tacked on by google to the thread started by Brian's bold
Message-ID: <S3k%[email protected] >.
Google managed this even though I had changed the subject (from "Who Should
Pay?" to "gootie and greggie sleep together every night") and the
webposting access I use only allows one MID in the References header.
Had Google's sweep never seen the post by gootenburgmen<at >gmail.com it
could not possibly have connected my post with Brian's post and put them in
the same thread.
Understood?
Why did greggie do what he did? Maybe, he did not realize his IP
76.121.230.165 was going to come through in the posting. Maybe not.
Probably just to psyche Brian. All that "gootie" had posted was this :
&&&&&&&&
On Dec 8, 5:44 pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected] > wrote:
> A hypothetical. A person breaks into someones home, steals a vase worth
> enough to get them charged with a felony; they get hauled into court,
> hire a lawyer and then demand of their victim that the victim indemnify
> them for their attorney fees, other expenses of litigation and any
> damage award for breaking, entering and stealing the vase. Sounds about
> right coming from a miscreant, no?
Archiving
&&&&&&&&
I think this was gootie/greggie's comment on Brian L's habit of archiving
some of the more disreputable "no archive" postings made by some of my
ruder anonymice "brethren". ;^)
Myself, I watch the farces of rec.games.chess.politics and the
endless/pointless Sloan-et-al lawsuits, and guffaw. I seldom post other
than anonymously (and even that only rarely). Since Sloan's mission is to
be as famous/notorious as possible, for sure he has achieved that end. By
the nature of his lawsuits, web sites and xposting habits, Sloan has
motivated a small pack of remailer users who will probably poke at him from
safety for a few years to come, until they get bored with the game. The
more he calls them all "Truong", the more attention Sam will get.
Symbiotic?
- > Not Sam or one of his camp followers, not Paul or one of his camp
followers
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 11:40:04
From: Nomen Nescio
Subject: gootie and greggie sleep together every night
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76.121.230.165 in stereo:
From: Gregory <[email protected] >
NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.121.230.165
Subject: Re: Gregory Alexander's Important Factually Incorrect Note
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:36:30 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.politics
Message-ID:
<51a50b55-6ab5-4d68-88f6-05da3004ddd2@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com >
Injection-Info: k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.121.230.165;
posting-account=24688AoAAADrYBx8mqhTaufQ7QhLzqzP
User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET
CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
+ + +
From: gootie <[email protected] >
NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.121.230.165
Subject: Re: Who Should Pay?
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:12:31 -0800 (PST)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
Message-ID:
<[email protected] >
Injection-Info: e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.121.230.165;
posting-account=cVuK0QoAAAChVKNrBaqyHfrqXLah04l7
User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; WOW64;
FunWebProducts; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR
3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30618),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
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