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Date: 09 Aug 2007 17:18:18
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Subject: email chess organisations comparison
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Since i stopped playing in my local club and since i dont enjoy the
fast time controls in fics, i took an advice given by a friend and
looked around to see what email chess is offering. I thought that my
findings may be helpful for others too, so here they are:
1) ICCF. email.The most "formal" organization. It is not really free
for beginners since you can get in through national chess federations
only and i ve read, but i was unable to confirm, that there is a fee.
2) letsplaychess-chessworld.net web-based 400000 members!!! BUT full
membership is not free. The biggest drawback is that free members are
unrated. Time controls 1day-15d/move
3) redhotpawn-chessatwork-redhotchess-timeforchess-theimmortalgame web-
based 18485 members, but full membership is not free. Free members get
a rating, but cannot take part in tournanments and teams and they are
restricted to the number of simultaneous games.
4) IECG email and web-based 12000 members 40days/10moves or 10d+1d/
move
5) IECC email 4000 members
6) FICGS web-based 2360 members but only 600-700 active ones
7) WCCF email 1083 members 10moves/30days chess engines may be used
upon previous agreement
8) chess-mail web-based 472 rated members+288 provisional ones and
2578 inactive 5d+36h/move or 5d+12h/move
I left out services which are either not free or with a small member
pool
I think that the best choice for a beginner in this form of chess is
IECG, unless somebody has a different opinion. Anyone willing to
contribute his personal experiences is more than welcomed.
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Date: 09 Aug 2007 22:11:51
From: help bot
Subject: Re: email chess organisations comparison
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On Aug 9, 7:18 pm, DDP3...@gmail.com wrote:
> 3) redhotpawn-chessatwork-redhotchess-timeforchess-theimmortalgame web-
> based 18485 members, but full membership is not free. Free members get
> a rating, but cannot take part in tournanments and teams and they are
> restricted to the number of simultaneous games.
This is the only site on your list which I have tried,
and it seems very good. I play up to six games at
once for free, and believe me, if you were to get twenty
or so games going and then start losing many of them,
you'd be glad for this restriction, as it forces you to
put a bit more into your selection of moves.
The one drawback is that many times I go online
and nobody has moved; this mainly happens when I
am winning all my games. When I am losing, the
moves *seem* to come faster and deeper, not unlike
a Bjorn Borg rally in tennis.
One caveat: the popularity of strong chess programs
means that you simply must accept that some of the
players will be cheating, or consulting a silicon super-
grandmaster; this is not a problem for me, since I am
accustomed to losing, but others may not like losing
to players rated "1700", who apparently decided to
use a chess program "just for them". : >D
-- help bot
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Date: 12 Aug 2007 20:48:22
From: help bot
Subject: Re: email chess organisations comparison
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On Aug 12, 10:09 pm, Sin...@webtv.net (SAT W-7) wrote:
> I have played E mail chess with a guy in England a hand full of times
> .He is 8 hours a head of me.
> He sent me a move before he went to work then when i woke up to go to
> work id move then when he gets home from work he moves then when i get
> home from work id move..
> So we tried to move twice a day , before and after work.....
> I know Helpbot thinks a lot of people cheat but me and that other guy
> would rather lose than cheat ....
Just for clarification, it is not that I imagine that a lot
of this computer cheating goes on or fear computers,
it is simply that a lot of the players I have known
admitted that they did it, and this was back before
computer programs became so inexpensive and so
very strong. I also knew players who cheated OTB,
and players who confirmed that those same players
cheated in play against them.
As I recall, there was even a book or two published
to show players how to cheat effectively, and how to
get away with it. The flip side is those players who,
rather than cheating, throw a tantrum when they lose.
And there are always those players who never really
accept the result of their lost games, convincing
themselves that everything was okie dokey until a
one move blunder at the very end (even if they were
dead lost anyway).
A few people are actually unconvinced by the known
results of computer vs. computer play, and will not
rest until a new program they have acquired has been
tested against humans (remotely), for verification.
These guys will almost invariably play under their own
handles on ICC, for instance, using various different
chess programs, to see the results. For them, were
the human opponents to know they were playing a
program, it would spoil their test. At any rate, this
has been my experience, going by the many chess
players I have known over the years.
-- help bot
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Date: 13 Aug 2007 13:39:08
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: email chess organisations comparison
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You have played more on line chess than me.. It is too bad people
have to cheat to win or can not accept their loss and just stop moving
and leave you hanging..I am not like that..
Hey ( helpbot ) if you want to play my IVAN , the box say's it's ELO
is I800 but the guy with the Fritz 9 thinks it is more like I700 ELO..
If you ever feel like challenging it let me know.
I have lost over 400 games to it on the strongest level and have beaten
it one time.
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Date: 12 Aug 2007 20:09:34
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: email chess organisations comparison
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I have played E mail chess with a guy in England a hand full of times
.He is 8 hours a head of me.
He sent me a move before he went to work then when i woke up to go to
work id move then when he gets home from work he moves then when i get
home from work id move..
So we tried to move twice a day , before and after work.....
I know Helpbot thinks a lot of people cheat but me and that other guy
would rather lose than cheat ....
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