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Date: 22 Mar 2008 03:22:09
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Subject: [email protected] exposes the FSS and it is not Paul Truong
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[[[[[[repeat after hipcrime cancellation]]]]]]
I DID NOT WRITE OR POST THE MISERABLE MESSAGE BELOW .
IT IS FROM THE FAKE "[email protected]" .
IT MUST BE A LIE THAT BLOWJOBS ARE GIVEN TO THE NAMED PARTIES .
I AM PRESERVING THE POST FOR A FORENSIC ANALYSIS BY MR CREED @NR .
Later I can report on the street address then associated with I.P.
69.124.205.180 , it has to wait until the subpoena is served .
But according to one Louis Blair <[email protected] > this I.P.
69.124.205.180 is associated with a wellknown RGCP group poster.
That poster does not have Troung or Polger in his or her realname .
From: [email protected]
Subject: Brian P Lafferty, ESQ is whining about Owens now
Date: 30 May 2007 16:13:20 -0700
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.
chess.computer,rec.games.chess.analysis,alt.chess
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 3
Message-ID: <[email protected] >
NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.124.205.180
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1182588561 3217 127.0.0.1 (30 May 2007
23:13:20 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: [email protected]
X-No-Archive: yes
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 23:13:20 +0000 (UTC)
User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070309 Firefox/2.0.0.3,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
Complaints-To: [email protected]
Injection-Info: p47g2003hsq.googlegroups.com; posting-host=69.124.205.180;
posting-account=2jt8PAsAAABkihm-TH9reeEIPrfGXdh2
What a fucking whiner! His wife must be blowing someone else. That's
why he's taking it out on Steve Owens and Terry Winchester. Poor guy.
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Date: 24 Mar 2008 11:48:54
From: Guy Macon
Subject: Re: [email protected] exposes the FSS and it is not Paul Truong
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Rob wrote:
>
>
>On 23, 9:46 am, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:
>> Rob wrote:
>>
>> >On 22, 7:46 pm, Louis Blair <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> On 21, 8:35 pm, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> 7 ...
>> >> 7 > But according to one Louis Blair <[email protected]> this I.P.
>> >> 7 > 69.124.205.180 is associated with a wellknown RGCP group poster.
>> >> 7
>> >> 7 Do you have a quote to back that up?
>> >> 7 ...
>>
>> >> _
>> >> I did once see a note,
>>
>> >>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/msg/becde3eab...
>>
>> >> where the headers indicated: "NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.124.205.180".
>>
>> >> Because of the problems with identity imitation, I included that
>> >> information in my reaction to that post. Perhaps I could find
>> >> other examples if I searched.
>>
>> >May I post that header?
>>
>> >From: "samsloan" <[email protected]>
>> >Newsgroups:
>> >rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal
>> >Subject: Motion to Remove Louis Blair from the Forum Moderation
>> >Oversight Committee
>> >Date: 17 2007 17:50:16 -0700
>> >Organization:http://groups.google.com
>> >Lines: 71
>> >Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> >NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.124.205.180
>> >Mime-Version: 1.0
>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >X-Trace: posting.google.com 1174179018 13887 127.0.0.1 (18 2007
>> >00:50:18 GMT)
>> >X-Complaints-To: [email protected]
>> >NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 2007 00:50:18 +0000 (UTC)
>> >User-Agent: G2/1.0
>> >X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:
>> >1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070219 Firefox/2.0.0.2,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>> >Complaints-To: [email protected]
>> >Injection-Info: p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com; posting-
>> >host=69.124.205.180;
>> > posting-account=2jt8PAsAAABkihm-TH9reeEIPrfGXdh2
>>
>> >Motion to Remove Louis Blair from the Forum Moderation Oversight
>> >Committee
>>
>> >So you know... the header is from the RSS. The IP is from the RSS! Was
>> >that IP ever attributed to the FSS?
>>
>> Its a dynamic IP address, likely from a DSL line.
>>
>> I ran 69.124.205.180 tthroughhttp://www.tracert.com/trace_exe.html
>> and found that the next IP up is always this one:
>> ubr105-ge1-0-0.cmts.nyx4ny.cv.net (67.83.226.175)
>> Does ny=New York?
>>
>> These webpages mention that IP address (from Usenet posts):http://www.gamesforum.ca/showthread.php?t=82622http://www.gamesforum.ca/showthread.php?p=318885
>>
>> And here is something else that is interesting...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.124.205.180
>>
>> Click on the "diff" links and you will see, on the left, the
>> old text and, on the right, the new text after editing from
>> IP address [ 69.124.205.180 ]. For example:http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sam_Sloan&diff=prev&oldid=1...
>>
>> The "fifteen puzzle" edits are also interesting, considering
>> this page [http://www.samsloan.com/samloyd.htm] (search on
>> "fifteen puzzle" and "15-puzzle" within the page)...
>
>Guy, Who is posting from the IP on WIKI? Is that one of the
>FSS IP addresses?
>
> >So you know... the header is from the RSS. The IP is from
> >the RSS! Was that IP ever attributed to the FSS?
I have been to swamped with an engineering project to look for
IP address [ 69.124.205.180 ] being associated with FSS. I was
hoping that someone else would post evidence confirming that or
claiming that it cannot be confirmed. Certainly whoever first
wrote the words "...exposes the FSS and it is not Paul Truong"
is implying that such a link exists, but I require evidence,
not assertions.
IP address [ 69.124.205.180 ] being associated with the
real SS seems to be confirmed at this point. Showing it
to be associated with FSS would argue for RSS creating
FSS to frame Truong -- something that would ne doubt
greatly interest certain lawyers and a judge if true.
As I have said all along, I am only interested in a
fair examination of the evidence, and have no reason to
favor one side over the other.
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Date: 23 Mar 2008 21:50:46
From: Rob
Subject: Re: [email protected] exposes the FSS and it is not Paul Truong
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On 23, 9:46 am, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/ > wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>
> >On 22, 7:46 pm, Louis Blair <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On 21, 8:35 pm, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 7 ...
> >> 7 > But according to one Louis Blair <[email protected]> this I.P.
> >> 7 > 69.124.205.180 is associated with a wellknown RGCP group poster.
> >> 7
> >> 7 Do you have a quote to back that up?
> >> 7 ...
>
> >> _
> >> I did once see a note,
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/msg/becde3eab...
>
> >> where the headers indicated: "NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.124.205.180".
>
> >> Because of the problems with identity imitation, I included that
> >> information in my reaction to that post. Perhaps I could find
> >> other examples if I searched.
>
> >May I post that header?
>
> >From: "samsloan" <[email protected]>
> >Newsgroups:
> >rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal
> >Subject: Motion to Remove Louis Blair from the Forum Moderation
> >Oversight Committee
> >Date: 17 2007 17:50:16 -0700
> >Organization:http://groups.google.com
> >Lines: 71
> >Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> >NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.124.205.180
> >Mime-Version: 1.0
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >X-Trace: posting.google.com 1174179018 13887 127.0.0.1 (18 2007
> >00:50:18 GMT)
> >X-Complaints-To: [email protected]
> >NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 2007 00:50:18 +0000 (UTC)
> >User-Agent: G2/1.0
> >X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:
> >1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070219 Firefox/2.0.0.2,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> >Complaints-To: [email protected]
> >Injection-Info: p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com; posting-
> >host=69.124.205.180;
> > posting-account=2jt8PAsAAABkihm-TH9reeEIPrfGXdh2
>
> >Motion to Remove Louis Blair from the Forum Moderation Oversight
> >Committee
>
> >So you know... the header is from the RSS. The IP is from the RSS! Was
> >that IP ever attributed to the FSS?
>
> Its a dynamic IP address, likely from a DSL line.
>
> I ran 69.124.205.180 tthroughhttp://www.tracert.com/trace_exe.html
> and found that the next IP up is always this one:
> ubr105-ge1-0-0.cmts.nyx4ny.cv.net (67.83.226.175)
> Does ny=New York?
>
> These webpages mention that IP address (from Usenet posts):http://www.gamesforum.ca/showthread.php?t=82622http://www.gamesforum.ca/showthread.php?p=318885
>
> And here is something else that is interesting...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.124.205.180
>
> Click on the "diff" links and you will see, on the left, the
> old text and, on the right, the new text after editing from
> IP address [ 69.124.205.180 ]. For example:http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sam_Sloan&diff=prev&oldid=1...
>
> The "fifteen puzzle" edits are also interesting, considering
> this page [http://www.samsloan.com/samloyd.htm] (search on
> "fifteen puzzle" and "15-puzzle" within the page)...
Guy,
Who is posting from the IP on WIKI? Is that one of the FSS IP
addresses?
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Date: 23 Mar 2008 14:46:35
From: Guy Macon
Subject: Re: [email protected] exposes the FSS and it is not Paul Truong
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Rob wrote:
>
>On 22, 7:46 pm, Louis Blair <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 21, 8:35 pm, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 7 ...
>> 7 > But according to one Louis Blair <[email protected]> this I.P.
>> 7 > 69.124.205.180 is associated with a wellknown RGCP group poster.
>> 7
>> 7 Do you have a quote to back that up?
>> 7 ...
>>
>> _
>> I did once see a note,
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/msg/becde3eab...
>>
>> where the headers indicated: "NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.124.205.180".
>>
>> Because of the problems with identity imitation, I included that
>> information in my reaction to that post. Perhaps I could find
>> other examples if I searched.
>
>May I post that header?
>
>From: "samsloan" <[email protected]>
>Newsgroups:
>rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal
>Subject: Motion to Remove Louis Blair from the Forum Moderation
>Oversight Committee
>Date: 17 2007 17:50:16 -0700
>Organization: http://groups.google.com
>Lines: 71
>Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.124.205.180
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>X-Trace: posting.google.com 1174179018 13887 127.0.0.1 (18 2007
>00:50:18 GMT)
>X-Complaints-To: [email protected]
>NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 2007 00:50:18 +0000 (UTC)
>User-Agent: G2/1.0
>X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:
>1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070219 Firefox/2.0.0.2,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>Complaints-To: [email protected]
>Injection-Info: p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com; posting-
>host=69.124.205.180;
> posting-account=2jt8PAsAAABkihm-TH9reeEIPrfGXdh2
>
>Motion to Remove Louis Blair from the Forum Moderation Oversight
>Committee
>
>
>So you know... the header is from the RSS. The IP is from the RSS! Was
>that IP ever attributed to the FSS?
Its a dynamic IP address, likely from a DSL line.
I ran 69.124.205.180 tthrough http://www.tracert.com/trace_exe.html
and found that the next IP up is always this one:
ubr105-ge1-0-0.cmts.nyx4ny.cv.net (67.83.226.175)
Does ny=New York?
These webpages mention that IP address (from Usenet posts):
http://www.gamesforum.ca/showthread.php?t=82622
http://www.gamesforum.ca/showthread.php?p=318885
And here is something else that is interesting...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.124.205.180
Click on the "diff" links and you will see, on the left, the
old text and, on the right, the new text after editing from
IP address [ 69.124.205.180 ]. For example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sam_Sloan&diff=prev&oldid=125975560
The "fifteen puzzle" edits are also interesting, considering
this page [ http://www.samsloan.com/samloyd.htm ] (search on
"fifteen puzzle" and "15-puzzle" within the page)...
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Date: 22 Mar 2008 21:36:10
From: Rob
Subject: Re: [email protected] exposes the FSS and it is not Paul Truong
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On 22, 7:46 pm, Louis Blair <[email protected] > wrote:
> On 21, 8:35 pm, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
> 7 ...
> 7 > But according to one Louis Blair <[email protected]> this I.P.
> 7 > 69.124.205.180 is associated with a wellknown RGCP group poster.
> 7
> 7 Do you have a quote to back that up?
> 7 ...
>
> _
> I did once see a note,
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/msg/becde3eab...
>
> where the headers indicated: "NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.124.205.180".
>
> Because of the problems with identity imitation, I included that
> information in my reaction to that post. Perhaps I could find
> other examples if I searched.
May I post that header?
From: "samsloan" <[email protected] >
Newsgroups:
rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal
Subject: Motion to Remove Louis Blair from the Forum Moderation
Oversight Committee
Date: 17 2007 17:50:16 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 71
Message-ID: <[email protected] >
NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.124.205.180
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1174179018 13887 127.0.0.1 (18 2007
00:50:18 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: [email protected]
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 2007 00:50:18 +0000 (UTC)
User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:
1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070219 Firefox/2.0.0.2,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
Complaints-To: [email protected]
Injection-Info: p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com; posting-
host=69.124.205.180;
posting-account=2jt8PAsAAABkihm-TH9reeEIPrfGXdh2
Motion to Remove Louis Blair from the Forum Moderation Oversight
Committee
So you know... the header is from the RSS. The IP is from the RSS! Was
that IP ever attributed to the FSS?
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Date: 22 Mar 2008 17:50:30
From: help bot
Subject: Re: [email protected] exposes the FSS and it is not Paul Truong
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On 22, 9:04 am, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> > My beef with the dynamic duo of PT and SP
> > has nothing to do with imagined damages to
> > the "stellar" reputation of Sam Sloan; rather,
> > I find that these two seem to have a nasty
> > habit of impersonating great players, like
> > Judit Polgar, for instance. The SP Web site
> > is a horror, filled with lies and fabrications in
> > that respect. Maybe it's just me, but it would
> > seem to be precisely the *wrong way* to go
> > about the promotion of chess.
>
> > -- help bot
>
> it's just you
> :-)
I suspected as much. After all, look what
Gary Kasparov did for chess-- and he was
not only an inveterate liar, but he cheated
little girls at chess as well! I especially
liked GK's TV commercial, where he is
giving a simultaneous exhibition and has to
pull up a chair because some st-ass
kid has researched the Evans Gambit at
Chessville.com, and found Larry Evans'
published refutation. It served him right
for taking White in every game and not
offering QN odds... .
-- help bot
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Date: 22 Mar 2008 17:46:09
From: Louis Blair
Subject: Re: [email protected] exposes the FSS and it is not Paul Truong
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On 21, 8:35=A0pm, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
7 ...
7 > But according to one Louis Blair <[email protected]> this I.P.
7 > 69.124.205.180 is associated with a wellknown RGCP group poster.
7
7 =A0 Do you have a quote to back that up?
7 ...
_
I did once see a note,
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/msg/becde3eab52a8fd0=
?hl=3Den
where the headers indicated: "NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.124.205.180".
Because of the problems with identity imitation, I included that
information in my reaction to that post. Perhaps I could find
other examples if I searched.
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Date: 22 Mar 2008 06:04:06
From: Rob
Subject: Re: [email protected] exposes the FSS and it is not Paul Truong
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On 22, 1:48 am, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On 22, 12:05 am, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I can certainly spell Truong and Polgar
>
> Oh sure, you probably used cut-and-paste this
> time. But can you pass the other crucial tests,
> like do you have a "street" address, and what
> about "headers"? I've got them on the exhaust
> system of my motorcycle, but no way could
> this "judgement clerk" guy know anything about
> Harleys... .
>
> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, a
> fellow named Larry Evans wrote about how, in
> due time, a certain Russian insider would
> "confirm" his (LE's) wild speculations. Trouble
> was, that article was still around years later
> when the "insider" revealed something else; he
> opined that Vassily Smyslov -- not Mikhail
> Botvinnik -- was the State's preferred champion.
> Uh-oh... LOL!
>
> The posting at top of this thread is doing the
> very same thing: promising to "reveal" some
> special information some time in the future.
> Well, at least he seems to have a /rational/
> excuse -- the lawsuit -- for not "revealing" the
> formula for secret sauce (kechup, mayo, and
> a bit of French's salad dressing).
>
> My beef with the dynamic duo of PT and SP
> has nothing to do with imagined damages to
> the "stellar" reputation of Sam Sloan; rather,
> I find that these two seem to have a nasty
> habit of impersonating great players, like
> Judit Polgar, for instance. The SP Web site
> is a horror, filled with lies and fabrications in
> that respect. Maybe it's just me, but it would
> seem to be precisely the *wrong way* to go
> about the promotion of chess.
>
> -- help bot
it's just you
:-)
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Date: 21 Mar 2008 23:48:32
From: help bot
Subject: Re: [email protected] exposes the FSS and it is not Paul Truong
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On 22, 12:05 am, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> I can certainly spell Truong and Polgar
Oh sure, you probably used cut-and-paste this
time. But can you pass the other crucial tests,
like do you have a "street" address, and what
about "headers"? I've got them on the exhaust
system of my motorcycle, but no way could
this "judgement clerk" guy know anything about
Harleys... .
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, a
fellow named Larry Evans wrote about how, in
due time, a certain Russian insider would
"confirm" his (LE's) wild speculations. Trouble
was, that article was still around years later
when the "insider" revealed something else; he
opined that Vassily Smyslov -- not Mikhail
Botvinnik -- was the State's preferred champion.
Uh-oh... LOL!
The posting at top of this thread is doing the
very same thing: promising to "reveal" some
special information some time in the future.
Well, at least he seems to have a /rational/
excuse -- the lawsuit -- for not "revealing" the
formula for secret sauce (kechup, mayo, and
a bit of French's salad dressing).
My beef with the dynamic duo of PT and SP
has nothing to do with imagined damages to
the "stellar" reputation of Sam Sloan; rather,
I find that these two seem to have a nasty
habit of impersonating great players, like
Judit Polgar, for instance. The SP Web site
is a horror, filled with lies and fabrications in
that respect. Maybe it's just me, but it would
seem to be precisely the *wrong way* to go
about the promotion of chess.
-- help bot
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Date: 21 Mar 2008 21:05:10
From: Rob
Subject: Re: [email protected] exposes the FSS and it is not Paul Truong
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On 21, 10:35 pm, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On 21, 10:22 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Later I can report on the street address then associated with I.P.
> > 69.124.205.180 , it has to wait until the subpoena is served .
>
> Well, that seems to rule me out, as I haven't
> lived on the street for some time.
>
> > But according to one Louis Blair <[email protected]> this I.P.
> > 69.124.205.180 is associated with a wellknown RGCP group poster.
>
> Do you have a quote to back that up?
>
> > That poster does not have Troung or Polger in his or her realname .
>
> This deliberate mis-spelling of "Polgar"
> /could be/: a) an attempt to avert getting
> caught in a bald-faced lie, or b) evidence
> that the real fake-whoever is severely
> spelling-challenged, much like nearly-an-
> IMnes or Rob da robber Mitchell. In fact,
> I just noticed that the poor fellow also
> mis-spelled Truong, making him zero
> for two on the really tough words. In view
> of that, I am going to go with da robber... .
>
> -- hep blot
'Bot
I can certainly spell Truong and Polgar
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Date: 21 Mar 2008 20:35:46
From: help bot
Subject: Re: [email protected] exposes the FSS and it is not Paul Truong
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On 21, 10:22 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> Later I can report on the street address then associated with I.P.
> 69.124.205.180 , it has to wait until the subpoena is served .
Well, that seems to rule me out, as I haven't
lived on the street for some time.
> But according to one Louis Blair <[email protected]> this I.P.
> 69.124.205.180 is associated with a wellknown RGCP group poster.
Do you have a quote to back that up?
> That poster does not have Troung or Polger in his or her realname .
This deliberate mis-spelling of "Polgar"
/could be/: a) an attempt to avert getting
caught in a bald-faced lie, or b) evidence
that the real fake-whoever is severely
spelling-challenged, much like nearly-an-
IMnes or Rob da robber Mitchell. In fact,
I just noticed that the poor fellow also
mis-spelled Truong, making him zero
for two on the really tough words. In view
of that, I am going to go with da robber... .
-- hep blot
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