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Date: 08 Jul 2008 23:46:38
From: Judoman
Subject: what does an analog clock do?
I want to buy my first chess clock, and I'm thinking of getting an
analog wind-up one. I only play casual little games.

My first reason for wanting a clock so that I can give my boy 4
minutes or so, while I only get 30 seconds. I wonder if a chess clock
such as this:

http://tinyurl.com/6frvf4

will be able to do that, ring the alarm when my time-limit is up. Is
that the sort of feature that is normal for an analog windup? Or
would I need a digital one for that? There is also a 'Leap PQ 9902'
'c5' fully digital one I could afford that advertises this feature
set:

3 Chess Modes: Normal, Traditional, International Match Rules
- 3 Countdown Modes: Countdown, Bonus, Bronstein
- Digital can count game time in seconds for player
- Key lock button to prevent switch off accidentally
- 7 Key Operation: On/Off, Start/Pause, Time Set, -, +, Lock, Timer
- Suitable for both home use and competitions
- Simple setting & easy to operate
- Lightweight and portable

Dimension: 130x210x65mm (LxWxD)
Requires 2 x C batteries (not included).:

thanks!




 
Date: 10 Jul 2008 11:53:23
From:
Subject: Re: what does an analog clock do?
On Jul 10, 10:04=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected] >
wrote:
> Slightly off-topic but I found it funny at the time.
>
> I was playing in a recent tournament with slow time controls and no
> time delay, so I brought along an analog clock. =A0One fellow I played,
> a younger player age perhaps 15, did not have a clock, so we used my
> analog clock. =A0I set the hands on the clock, showed it to him and
> invited him to adjust the clock if he thought it was inaccurately
> set.
>
> His reply?
>
> "I've never used one of those. =A0I really don't know HOW to set an
> analog clock."
>
> I'll bet, though, he knew how to set a Chronos.

Heck, many kids these days do not know how to _read_ an analog
clock, a clock with hands, let alone set one.


 
Date: 10 Jul 2008 07:04:04
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: what does an analog clock do?
Slightly off-topic but I found it funny at the time.

I was playing in a recent tournament with slow time controls and no
time delay, so I brought along an analog clock. One fellow I played,
a younger player age perhaps 15, did not have a clock, so we used my
analog clock. I set the hands on the clock, showed it to him and
invited him to adjust the clock if he thought it was inaccurately
set.

His reply?

"I've never used one of those. I really don't know HOW to set an
analog clock."

I'll bet, though, he knew how to set a Chronos.


  
Date: 11 Jul 2008 01:19:10
From:
Subject: Re: what does an analog clock do?
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:04:04 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected] > wrote:

>Slightly off-topic but I found it funny at the time.
>
>I was playing in a recent tournament with slow time controls and no
>time delay, so I brought along an analog clock. One fellow I played,
>a younger player age perhaps 15, did not have a clock, so we used my
>analog clock. I set the hands on the clock, showed it to him and
>invited him to adjust the clock if he thought it was inaccurately
>set.
>
>His reply?
>
>"I've never used one of those. I really don't know HOW to set an
>analog clock."
>
>I'll bet, though, he knew how to set a Chronos.

set a chronos... bleh ...

I know a guy who told me that he demands that they use his analog
clock... it 'ticks' extra loud and he hopes it annoys his opponent :)



 
Date: 09 Jul 2008 11:00:23
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: what does an analog clock do?
On Jul 9, 12:46=A0am, Judoman <[email protected] > wrote:
> I want to buy my first chess clock, and I'm thinking of getting an
> analog wind-up one. =A0I only play casual little games.
>
> My first reason for wanting a clock so that I can give my boy 4
> minutes or so, while I only get 30 seconds.

Fast time limits such as this aren't so easy to set or use with an
analog clock. A digital clock such as Game Time II will serve you
better (as long as you don't smack it too hard, otherwise you better
go upscale to a Chronos Blitz or similar).


 
Date: 09 Jul 2008 12:00:47
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: what does an analog clock do?

"Judoman" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:30367579-72ae-491c-af22-022a8e5ff921@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>I want to buy my first chess clock, and I'm thinking of getting an
> analog wind-up one. I only play casual little games.
>
> My first reason for wanting a clock so that I can give my boy 4
> minutes or so, while I only get 30 seconds. I wonder if a chess clock
> such as this:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6frvf4
>
> will be able to do that, ring the alarm when my time-limit is up. Is
> that the sort of feature that is normal for an analog windup?

Hi Judoman;

Buzzer features are not usually part of analog or digital clocks. Most chess
clocks have a 'flag', a small red armature which, when the minute hand is
exactly vertical on the clock, falls. That indicates that time is up.

Certainly for analogs buzzers are unusual.

if you /want/ a buzzer system, games stores often sell them. I have one
which can be set for 10 or 30 seconds - but I don't think that is your idea.

One consideration for playing blitz on clocks is to buy something cheap -
blitz tends to cause the clock to 'age' prematurely. [specially if you are
both Judo-kai!]

Overall, I suggest buying something that doesn't buzz at all, because you
opponent [you son] needs to keep an eye on your clock and claim a win if
your flag falls. This is good practice since if he plays elsewhere then that
is general practice, and he'll get used to it.

Have you [laugh] ever actually played 30 second chess? Maybe you should give
yourself a chance and a few more minutes. Most games aren't over in 30
moves, and 1 move per second is /very/ hard to achieve. Even if you have a
won position, it may take another 10 moves to mate your opponent, and you
don't have 10 seconds left!

A fun way to play is to start with time-penalties. He gets 8 minutes, you
get 4. If he wins he loses 1o seconds and you gain 10 seconds, or vice
versa - then you automatically handicap your games based on previous play.

Cordially, Phil Innes

> Or
> would I need a digital one for that? There is also a 'Leap PQ 9902'
> 'c5' fully digital one I could afford that advertises this feature
> set:
>
> 3 Chess Modes: Normal, Traditional, International Match Rules
> - 3 Countdown Modes: Countdown, Bonus, Bronstein
> - Digital can count game time in seconds for player
> - Key lock button to prevent switch off accidentally
> - 7 Key Operation: On/Off, Start/Pause, Time Set, -, +, Lock, Timer
> - Suitable for both home use and competitions
> - Simple setting & easy to operate
> - Lightweight and portable
>
> Dimension: 130x210x65mm (LxWxD)
> Requires 2 x C batteries (not included).:
>
> thanks!




 
Date: 09 Jul 2008 07:30:54
From:
Subject: Re: what does an analog clock do?
On Jul 9, 2:46=A0am, Judoman <[email protected] > wrote:
> I want to buy my first chess clock, and I'm thinking of getting an
> analog wind-up one. =A0I only play casual little games.

In that case, an inexpensive analog clock is probably a better
choice than an more expensive digital clock with sophisticated
features you're unlikely to use.

> My first reason for wanting a clock so that I can give my boy 4
> minutes or so, while I only get 30 seconds. =A0I wonder if a chess clock
> such as this:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6frvf4
>
> will be able to do that, ring the alarm when my time-limit is up. =A0Is
> that the sort of feature that is normal for an analog windup? =A0


Most chess clocks, whether analog or digital, do not sound any sort
of bell or alarm when the time limit has expired. Rather, there is a
small red "flag" that is lifted by the minute hand, and when it falls
(as the hand passes 12) the time is up. The idea is that it is the
player's responsibility to notice when his opponent's time has
expired, rather than have the clock announce it to the world.


> Or
> would I need a digital one for that? =A0There is also a 'Leap PQ 9902'
> 'c5' fully digital one I could afford that advertises this feature
> set:
>
> =A03 Chess Modes: Normal, Traditional, International Match Rules
> - 3 Countdown Modes: Countdown, Bonus, Bronstein
> - Digital can count game time in seconds for player
> - Key lock button to prevent switch off accidentally
> - 7 Key Operation: On/Off, Start/Pause, Time Set, -, +, Lock, Timer
> - Suitable for both home use and competitions
> - Simple setting & easy to operate
> - Lightweight and portable
>
> Dimension: 130x210x65mm (LxWxD)
> Requires 2 x C batteries (not included).:
>
> thanks!