Don't you think if the purse was large enough...

Date: 02 Apr 2005 14:12:59
From: LSD
Subject: Don't you think if the purse was large enough...

that we could see a Kasparov-Fischer match-up? It would make headlines and
perhaps revitalize chess. Fischer played in the 90's against Spassky. I know
he *says* he won't play again, but money has a way of shifting one's
convictions.

Let's start a purse. I will contribute $10 via pay-pal Those who want to
contribute can contact me directly. ;-)

LSD

Date: 10 Apr 2005 18:35:35
From: Nick
Subject: Re: Don't you think if the purse was large enough...

LSD wrote:
> that we could see a Kasparov-Fischer match-up?
> It would make headlines and perhaps revitalize chess.
> Fischer played in the 90's against Spassky.
> I know he *says* he won't play again, but
> money has a way of shifting one's convictions.

I doubt that Bobby Fischer's a mercenary. Throughout his life,
Bobby Fischer has acted, whether wisely or foolishly, in ways that
have shown that money's *not* the most important thing in his life.

*If* an eccentric American of great wealth were to offer to pay
Bobby Fischer a large sum of money (1,000,000 USD) *after* Fischer
had made a public retraction and apology for his many comments
against the Jewish people and the United States, then would
Bobby Fischer accept that offer of 'easy money'? I doubt it.

I have little doubt that Bobby Fischer knows that he could
become more popular and admired in the United States if he were
to resort to some expedient US 'flag-waving' rhetoric such as
'The United States is the land of the free and the home of
the brave and must always be right everywhere in the world'.

Whatever else may be said about him, Bobby Fischer's opinions
seem to be sincerely held, regardless of expediency.

--Nick

Date: 10 Apr 2005 22:40:44
From: LSD
Subject: Re: Don't you think if the purse was large enough...

"Nick" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> LSD wrote:
>> that we could see a Kasparov-Fischer match-up?
>> It would make headlines and perhaps revitalize chess.
>> Fischer played in the 90's against Spassky.
>> I know he *says* he won't play again, but
>> money has a way of shifting one's convictions.
>
> I doubt that Bobby Fischer's a mercenary. Throughout his life,
> Bobby Fischer has acted, whether wisely or foolishly, in ways that
> have shown that money's *not* the most important thing in his life.
>
> *If* an eccentric American of great wealth were to offer to pay
> Bobby Fischer a large sum of money (1,000,000 USD) *after* Fischer
> had made a public retraction and apology for his many comments
> against the Jewish people and the United States, then would
> Bobby Fischer accept that offer of 'easy money'? I doubt it.
>
> I have little doubt that Bobby Fischer knows that he could
> become more popular and admired in the United States if he were
> to resort to some expedient US 'flag-waving' rhetoric such as
> 'The United States is the land of the free and the home of
> the brave and must always be right everywhere in the world'.
>
> Whatever else may be said about him, Bobby Fischer's opinions
> seem to be sincerely held, regardless of expediency.
>
> --Nick

You can say the same thing of just about every crazy person you'd come across.
Crazy, but sincere. It works for Hitler too, crazy and hateful...but sincere.
LOL

LSD

>

Date: 12 Apr 2005 10:28:42
From: michael adams
Subject: Re: Don't you think if the purse was large enough...

LSD wrote:
>
> "Nick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > LSD wrote:

<see below. >

> > *If* an eccentric American of great wealth were to offer to pay
> > Bobby Fischer a large sum of money (1,000,000 USD) *after* Fischer
> > had made a public retraction and apology for his many comments
> > against the Jewish people and the United States, then would
> > Bobby Fischer accept that offer of 'easy money'? I doubt it.
> >
> > I have little doubt that Bobby Fischer knows that he could
> > become more popular and admired in the United States if he were
> > to resort to some expedient US 'flag-waving' rhetoric such as
> > 'The United States is the land of the free and the home of
> > the brave and must always be right everywhere in the world'.
> >
> > Whatever else may be said about him, Bobby Fischer's opinions
> > seem to be sincerely held, regardless of expediency.
> >
> > --Nick
>
> You can say the same thing of just about every crazy person you'd come across.
> Crazy, but sincere. It works for Hitler too, crazy and hateful...but sincere.
> LOL
>
> LSD

Emm. 'law studentti doive'. It's the money - 'it' answers ALL. This is a
very hard lesson to learn but it is scriptured in any common 'bib.' ..

Date: 04 Apr 2005 14:39:02
From:
Subject: Re: Don't you think if the purse was large enough...

"LSD" <[email protected] > writes:

> that we could see a Kasparov-Fischer match-up? It would make headlines and
> perhaps revitalize chess. Fischer played in the 90's against Spassky. I know
> he *says* he won't play again, but money has a way of shifting one's
> convictions.

He'll never play a match of any kind except against someone
he is sure to beat. And that's not Kasparov.

>
> Let's start a purse. I will contribute $10 via pay-pal Those who want to
> contribute can contact me directly. ;-)
>

I'll contribute by purchasing his next book, *if* it is an
annotated collection of his games since 1969, and *if* it has
no mention of Jews "controlling the world", the holocaust,
the Pasadena Jail, or any equivalents.

To ensure this I want it edited by Larry Evans, who is to be
well compensated for the work.

William Hyde
EOS Department
Duke University

Date: 03 Apr 2005 11:01:08
From: ace942
Subject: Re: Don't you think if the purse was large enough...

While I would love to see Fischer vs. Kasparov, I think the event would
be one-sided. Fischer is much older and is more likely to get exhausted
when the game reaches the critical stages. If it was possible to have
them playing both in their pride with the same advantages (i.e.
Kasparov played in an era where computers are prevalent while Fischer
played where computers took up an entire room and had no more computing
power than a handheld today), it would be an interesting match.

I am pretty sure that Kasparov would play if the purse was high enough.
I am not so sure about Fischer if he would play unless he was
guaranteed a large sum of money up front.

Date: 04 Apr 2005 01:16:08
From: Adrian MacNair
Subject: Re: Don't you think if the purse was large enough...

"ace942" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> While I would love to see Fischer vs. Kasparov, I think the event would
> be one-sided. Fischer is much older and is more likely to get exhausted
> when the game reaches the critical stages.

That would be interesting to see, especially since we know from history that
it was Bobby who exhausted his opponents in the Candidates and WC. In fact
wasn't it k Taimanov who became seriously ill after playing Fischer in
1971 candidates match?

Date: 03 Apr 2005 13:48:28
From: Peter van der Hoog
Subject: Re: Don't you think if the purse was large enough...

"LSD" <[email protected] > schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> that we could see a Kasparov-Fischer match-up? It would make headlines
> and perhaps revitalize chess. Fischer played in the 90's against Spassky.
> I know he *says* he won't play again, but money has a way of shifting
> one's convictions.
>
> Let's start a purse. I will contribute $10 via pay-pal Those who want
> to contribute can contact me directly. ;-)
>
> LSD

Fischer will never play the ol' chess anymore, only Fischer random and he
has no chance against Kasparov, also not in FR. But I would not mind to
contribute $100,- to see Fischer play again. I pay the money when there is a
reliable organisation. Fischer might have a chance against a 2500 player,
like Susan Polgar.

Date: 02 Apr 2005 19:55:31
From: Morphy's ghost
Subject: Re: Don't you think if the purse was large enough...

In the year of our Lord Sat, 2 Apr 2005 14:12:59 -0500, "LSD"
<[email protected] > wrote:

>that we could see a Kasparov-Fischer match-up? It would make headlines and
>perhaps revitalize chess. Fischer played in the 90's against Spassky. I know
>he *says* he won't play again, but money has a way of shifting one's
>convictions.

Kasparov would, I think, go for the idea if the purse was sufficiently
large enough, if he were confident of Fischer's committment and
behavior, and if it was clearly impossible to arrange a big money
match with Kramnik. Of course, that's a lot of ifs. I would think
that the limelight, the probability of a fairly easy win, and a lot of
money might tempt Kasparov.

Fischer, on the other hand, almost certainly would not go for that.
Even if he could be lured back to chess, Kasparov is almost certainly
about the last guy he would want to play.
>
>Let's start a purse. I will contribute $10 via pay-pal Those who want to
>contribute can contact me directly. ;-)
>
>LSD
>
>
>

The fox condemns the trap, not himself. -- William Blake

Date: 02 Apr 2005 14:03:37
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Don't you think if the purse was large enough...

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 19:55:31 GMT, [email protected] (Morphy's
ghost) wrote:

>In the year of our Lord Sat, 2 Apr 2005 14:12:59 -0500, "LSD"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>that we could see a Kasparov-Fischer match-up? It would make headlines and
>>perhaps revitalize chess. Fischer played in the 90's against Spassky. I know
>>he *says* he won't play again, but money has a way of shifting one's
>>convictions.

>Fischer, on the other hand, almost certainly would not go for that.
>Even if he could be lured back to chess, Kasparov is almost certainly
>about the last guy he would want to play.

Whatever one can say about Fischer, he has placed many things above
money, turning down million dollar offers several times for what many
of us might consider trivial reasons. Something else about the offer
would have to tempt him.

Date: 04 Apr 2005 11:37:47
From: John A Swartz
Subject: Re: Don't you think if the purse was large enough...

>>>that we could see a Kasparov-Fischer match-up? It would make headlines and
>>>perhaps revitalize chess. Fischer played in the 90's against Spassky. I know
>>>he *says* he won't play again, but money has a way of shifting one's
>>>convictions.
>
>
>>Fischer, on the other hand, almost certainly would not go for that.
>>Even if he could be lured back to chess, Kasparov is almost certainly
>>about the last guy he would want to play.
>
>
> Whatever one can say about Fischer, he has placed many things above
> money, turning down million dollar offers several times for what many
> of us might consider trivial reasons. Something else about the offer
> would have to tempt him.

It would have to be FischerRandom - and even then I don't believe
Fischer would dare to face Kasparov. There are those that believe that
Fischer would not want to put himself in a position where he could lose,
and this may explain why he really never played Karpov or Kasparov...

Date: 03 Apr 2005 06:03:42
From: Morphy's ghost
Subject: Re: Don't you think if the purse was large enough...

In the year of our Lord Sat, 02 Apr 2005 14:03:37 -0800, Mike Murray
<[email protected] > wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 19:55:31 GMT, [email protected] (Morphy's
>ghost) wrote:
>
>>In the year of our Lord Sat, 2 Apr 2005 14:12:59 -0500, "LSD"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>that we could see a Kasparov-Fischer match-up? It would make headlines and
>>>perhaps revitalize chess. Fischer played in the 90's against Spassky. I know
>>>he *says* he won't play again, but money has a way of shifting one's
>>>convictions.
>
>>Fischer, on the other hand, almost certainly would not go for that.
>>Even if he could be lured back to chess, Kasparov is almost certainly
>>about the last guy he would want to play.
>
>Whatever one can say about Fischer, he has placed many things above
>money, turning down million dollar offers several times for what many
>of us might consider trivial reasons. Something else about the offer
>would have to tempt him.

That is true as well.

The fox condemns the trap, not himself. -- William Blake