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Date: 16 Apr 2007 06:53:19
From: Sanny
Subject: GetClub Chess further improved !
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Hi guys after a long time I am able to give good news that GetClub
Chess has further improved.
Play a game: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Now it will see even those moves which are hidden and difficult to
see.
Beginner Level will play fast but not so good.
Easy Level will give good challenge
Normal Level very strong.
Master will outplay many good players.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 18 Apr 2007 13:30:17
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Bug Removed !!!
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On Apr 18, 4:07 am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> > The inevitable conclusion is that you have still failed
> > to implement this fundamental technique in yourchess
> > program. Is that because you have no idea what I am
> > talking about, or perhaps your programmers have no
> > time for researching how to implement this method?
>
> On improvement there was a bug introduced which was later removed. You
> have played lots of game you know it doesn't make such silly moves.
Well, it seems that those who report their results
here are the ones who were lucky enough to have
exploited one of the *many* bugs in the program.
In my games, the program rarely makes such
blunders as the ones reported here.
> Whenever the game is improved a new bug comes in and we have to remove
> that Bug also.
I see. The introduction of new bugs in exchange
for some alleged improvement may not in fact be
an improvement, after all. However, if you were to
(finally) implement the check & capture extensions,
then we might see some real improvement, new
bugs notwithstanding!
> Play a game:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
>
> Now the Beginner Level plays quite strong moves. I am sure people will
> start loosing to the higher levels and soon Normal and Master Level
> will increase their Ratings to 1600 or so. Currently their rating is
> arround 500/600.
Rather than continue to randomly announce these
"improvements", why not watch your own ratings to
see if the change truly is one or not? At this point,
any substantial improvement should be reflected by
a *rapid* increase in the program's own ratings. I
could demonstrate this by taking over for it and
playing all the games simultaneously myself, and
I guarantee that if there are weak players I will get
all your levels back up to 1000 quickly. : >D
-- help bot
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Date: 18 Apr 2007 01:07:59
From: Sanny
Subject: Bug Removed !!!
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> The inevitable conclusion is that you have still failed
> to implement this fundamental technique in yourchess
> program. Is that because you have no idea what I am
> talking about, or perhaps your programmers have no
> time for researching how to implement this method?
>
On improvement there was a bug introduced which was later removed. You
have played lots of game you know it doesn't make such silly moves.
Whenever the game is improved a new bug comes in and we have to remove
that Bug also.
Play a game: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Now the Beginner Level plays quite strong moves. I am sure people will
start loosing to the higher levels and soon Normal and Master Level
will increase their Ratings to 1600 or so. Currently their rating is
arround 500/600.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 17 Apr 2007 11:20:09
From: help bot
Subject: Re: GetClub Chess further improved !!
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On Apr 17, 2:33 am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> > Trying a quick game this morning, I would say the program has
> > regressed. It was lost after just 4 moves: 1.e4 c5 2.Bc4 Nc6 3.Qf3?!
> > Ne5 4.Bxf7+?? Nxf7 5.d4? cxd4. Virtually as bad as its early days when
> > it would play things like 1.e4 e6 2.d4 Bd6?! 3.Nf3 Nf6??.
>
> Play Chess at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
>
> You played with Beginner Level, I suppose. Try Easy & Normal Levels
> and they will not come under tricks as easily as they used to
> earlier.
>
> For you Master Level will be the best to play with. Now they do not
> take as much time as they used to earlier but give very good moves.
Sanny, believe it or not, on a modern computer such
blunders as this should not occur on *any* level, unless
deliberately contrived to emulate the play of a total
patzer. For instance, the move: 4.Bxf7+ immediately
hangs a piece, and the followup: 5.d4 immediately
hangs a pawn. Any chess program which properly
uses the technique of check & capture extensions
will "see" this sort of thing in the blink of an eye, so
it matters not which level one may be playing.
The inevitable conclusion is that you have still failed
to implement this fundamental technique in your chess
program. Is that because you have no idea what I am
talking about, or perhaps your programmers have no
time for researching how to implement this method?
-- help bot
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 23:33:49
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GetClub Chess further improved !!
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> Trying a quick game this morning, I would say the program has
> regressed. It was lost after just 4 moves: 1.e4 c5 2.Bc4 Nc6 3.Qf3?!
> Ne5 4.Bxf7+?? Nxf7 5.d4? cxd4. Virtually as bad as its early days when
> it would play things like 1.e4 e6 2.d4 Bd6?! 3.Nf3 Nf6??.
>
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
You played with Beginner Level, I suppose. Try Easy & Normal Levels
and they will not come under tricks as easily as they used to
earlier.
For you Master Level will be the best to play with. Now they do not
take as much time as they used to earlier but give very good moves.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 15:57:32
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: GetClub Chess further improved !
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> Beginner Level will play fast but not so good.
I started a game at beginner level, with white:
1. e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3. Bc4
and now by its own timer getclubbed took 40 seconds to come up with
3. ... Nf6.
I am SO impressed.
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 15:52:09
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: GetClub Chess further improved !
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On Apr 16, 3:33 pm, "help bot" <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Apr 16, 1:07 pm, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> After years of countless
> "improvements", Sanny's program is likely in the
> USCF 4000-5000 rating range.
Just divide by ten and you're close.
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 14:39:52
From: help bot
Subject: Re: GetClub Chess further improved !
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On Apr 16, 3:46 pm, "Taylor Kingston" <[email protected] >
wrote:
> > Your work on the interface keeps getting worse and worse.
> He especially needs to get rid of that hideous, idiotic cartoon
> character to the left of the board, who repeatedly sticks his tongue
> out.
Um, FYI: I modeled for that caricature; while it's true
that I don't always stick my tongue out during play or
open and close my hands compulsively, I thought it
was a rather accurate approximation overall.
The reason the pic appears where it does is that this
is as close as Sanny's programmers were able to place
the pic to my name and stats, while maintaining the
virtually perfect feng shui of the Web page.
> Trying a quick game this morning, I would say the program has
> regressed. It was lost after just 4 moves: 1.e4 c5 2.Bc4 Nc6 3.Qf3?!
> Ne5 4.Bxf7+?? Nxf7 5.d4? cxd4. Virtually as bad as its early days when
> it would play things like 1.e4 e6 2.d4 Bd6?! 3.Nf3 Nf6??.
I always wondered how you managed to get so many
wins back then. ; >D
-- help bot
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 14:33:57
From: help bot
Subject: Re: GetClub Chess further improved !
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On Apr 16, 1:07 pm, Ron <[email protected] > wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>
> "Sanny" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Master will outplay many good players.
>
> Your work on the interface keeps getting worse and worse.
>
> Now the program keeps spawning a window (despite my pop-up blocker)
> which asks me to buy games. I can close it, but it pops back up shortly.
>
> It also opens another, uncloseable window.
>
> This is unacceptable, and make the game, as far as I'm concerned,
> unplayable.
Who do you think you're kidding here?
Everyone knows that the *real* reason you find
the game to be unplayable is the program's utterly
overwhelming strength! After years of countless
"improvements", Sanny's program is likely in the
USCF 4000-5000 rating range. ; >D
-- help butt
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 12:46:11
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: GetClub Chess further improved !
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On Apr 16, 1:07 pm, Ron <[email protected] > wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>
> "Sanny" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Master will outplay many good players.
>
> Your work on the interface keeps getting worse and worse.
He especially needs to get rid of that hideous, idiotic cartoon
character to the left of the board, who repeatedly sticks his tongue
out.
Trying a quick game this morning, I would say the program has
regressed. It was lost after just 4 moves: 1.e4 c5 2.Bc4 Nc6 3.Qf3?!
Ne5 4.Bxf7+?? Nxf7 5.d4? cxd4. Virtually as bad as its early days when
it would play things like 1.e4 e6 2.d4 Bd6?! 3.Nf3 Nf6??.
> Now the program keeps spawning a window (despite my pop-up blocker)
> which asks me to buy games. I can close it, but it pops back up shortly.
>
> It also opens another, uncloseable window.
>
> This is unacceptable, and make the game, as far as I'm concerned,
> unplayable.
>
> -Ron
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 17:07:53
From: Ron
Subject: Re: GetClub Chess further improved !
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In article <[email protected] >,
"Sanny" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Master will outplay many good players.
Your work on the interface keeps getting worse and worse.
Now the program keeps spawning a window (despite my pop-up blocker)
which asks me to buy games. I can close it, but it pops back up shortly.
It also opens another, uncloseable window.
This is unacceptable, and make the game, as far as I'm concerned,
unplayable.
-Ron
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