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Date: 25 Aug 2005 08:07:16
From: CiccioSPICE
Subject: [ICCF game] Analyses or comments are welcome
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[Event "WS/O/024"]
[Site "ICCF"]
[Date "2005.07.09"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Hoeher, Christian"]
[Black "Piantedosi, Francesco"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "1707"]
[PlyCount "87"]
[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
1. e4 e5 2. d3 Nf6 3. f4 Nc6 4. Nf3 d5 5. Nxe5 dxe4 6. Nxc6 bxc6 7. dxe4
Bb4+
8. c3 Qxd1+ 9. Kxd1 Nxe4 10. Be3 Bc5 11. Bxc5 Nxc5 12. Nd2 Bf5 13. Kc1 O-O-O
14. Nf3 Rhe8 15. b3 Nd3+ 16. Bxd3 Rxd3 17. Kb2 Re2+ 18. Ka3 Be4 19. Rae1
Rxe1
20. Rxe1 Bxf3 21. gxf3 Rxf3 22. Re8+ Kb7 23. Rh8 Rxf4 24. Rxh7 g5 25. h3 f6
26.
c4 c5 27. Rh6 Kb6 28. Ka4 c6 29. Rh7 Rf2 30. Ka3 Rf3 31. h4 Rh3 32. Rh6 gxh4
33. Rxf6 Kc7 34. Rf7+ Kd6 35. Rxa7 Ke5 36. Rc7 Kf4 37. Rxc6 Re3 38. Rxc5 h3
39.
Rh5 Kg3 40. Kb4 Re4 41. a4 Rh4 42. Rd5 h2 43. Rd1 h1=Q 44. Rxh1 1/2-1/2
I am the black.
Best regards
CiccioSPICE
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Date: 26 Aug 2005 13:38:26
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claus-J=FCrgen_Heigl?=
Subject: Re: [ICCF game] Analyses or comments are welcome
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CiccioSPICE wrote:
> 1. e4 e5 2. d3 Nf6 3. f4 Nc6 4. Nf3 d5 5. Nxe5 dxe4 6. Nxc6 bxc6 7. dxe4
> Bb4+
> 8. c3 Qxd1+ 9. Kxd1 Nxe4 10. Be3 Bc5 11. Bxc5 Nxc5 12. Nd2 Bf5 13. Kc1 O-O-O
> 14. Nf3 Rhe8 15. b3 Nd3+ 16. Bxd3 Rxd3 17. Kb2 Re2+ 18. Ka3 Be4 19. Rae1
> Rxe1
> 20. Rxe1 Bxf3 21. gxf3 Rxf3 22. Re8+ Kb7 23. Rh8 Rxf4 24. Rxh7 g5 25. h3 f6
> 26.
> c4 c5 27. Rh6 Kb6 28. Ka4 c6 29. Rh7 Rf2 30. Ka3 Rf3 31. h4 Rh3 32. Rh6 gxh4
> 33. Rxf6 Kc7 34. Rf7+ Kd6 35. Rxa7 Ke5 36. Rc7 Kf4 37. Rxc6 Re3 38. Rxc5 h3
> 39.
> Rh5 Kg3 40. Kb4 Re4 41. a4 Rh4 42. Rd5 h2 43. Rd1 h1=Q 44. Rxh1 1/2-1/2
Looks almost like a engine vs. engine game to me. Virtually all moves
except the white opening choice rank among the top two choices of my
Shredder Classic.
White has difficulties around move 12 to develop his pieces. Black plans
to castle queenside which puts his rooks on the central files very fast.
Perhaps White better should look for a way to prevent this. 12. b4 Ne4
13. Kc1 looks a bit counterintuitive, but if Black now develops his
bishop on the c8-h3 diagonal White can play Ba6 preventing the queenside
castle. Also the knight is prevented from going to d3 and could be even
vulnerable on the e-file. 13...Be6 14. Ba6 (threat Bb7) 14...Rb8 15. Re1
looks quite ok for White, as does 13...Bf5 (13...Bg4 14. Bd3 followed by
Re1) 14. Ba6 0-0 15. Re1 with the threat g4 (but not 15. Bb7? Rab8 16.
Bxc6 Nf2 17. Rf1 Nd3+ 18. Kd2 Rfd8 with a very dangerous attack). If
Black concedes the tempo with 13...0-0 14. Be2 with the plan Rd1 looks
playable. Any which way White here can oppose the black rooks which is
essential.
The only mistake by Black I can see is 24...g5. Much better is 24...Rg4
protecting the g-pawn with the intention to run the f-pawn. White has
big problems to stop this pawn. For example 25. h4 f5 26. h5 f4 27. h6
g5 28. Rf7 (28. Rg7 f3 29. h7 f2! -+) 28...Rh4 29. h7 f3 30. Rxf3 Rxh7
and the black rook is behind the pawn where it belongs. Or 25. Rh3 f5
26. Rf3 f4! 27. h3 Rh4 and now attacking the g-pawn doesn't work because
of 28. Rf2 Kb6 29. Rg2 f3! 30. Rxg7 Rf4 31. Rg1 Kc5 and the passed pawn
costs the rook while White doesn't have the opportunity to munch the
queenside pawns.
Claus-Juergen
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Date: 29 Aug 2005 23:08:33
From: Antonio Torrecillas
Subject: Re: [ICCF game] Analyses or comments are welcome
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En/na Claus-J�rgen Heigl ha escrit:
> CiccioSPICE wrote:
1. e4 e5 2. d3 Nf6 3. f4 Nc6 4. Nf3 d5 5. Nxe5 dxe4 6. Nxc6 bxc6
7. dxe4 Bb4+ 8. c3 Qxd1+ 9. Kxd1 Nxe4 10. Be3 Bc5 11. Bxc5 Nxc5
12. Nd2 Bf5 13. Kc1 O-O-O 14. Nf3 Rhe8 15. b3 Nd3+ 16. Bxd3 Rxd3
17. Kb2 Re2+ 18. Ka3 Be4 19. Rae1 Rxe1 20. Rxe1 Bxf3 21. gxf3 Rxf3
22. Re8+ Kb7 23. Rh8 Rxf4 24. Rxh7 g5 25.h3 f6 26.c4 c5 27. Rh6 Kb6
28. Ka4 c6 29. Rh7 Rf2 30. Ka3 Rf3 31. h4 Rh3 32.Rh6 gxh4
33. Rxf6 Kc7 34. Rf7+ Kd6 35. Rxa7 Ke5 36. Rc7 Kf4 37. Rxc6 Re3
38.Rxc5 h3 39.Rh5 Kg3 40. Kb4 Re4 41. a4 Rh4 42. Rd5 h2
43. Rd1 h1=Q 44. Rxh1 1/2-1/2
> Looks almost like a engine vs. engine game to me. Virtually all moves
> except the white opening choice rank among the top two choices of my
> Shredder Classic.
> (..)
>
> The only mistake by Black I can see is 24...g5. Much better is 24...Rg4
> protecting the g-pawn with the intention to run the f-pawn. White has
> big problems to stop this pawn. For example 25. h4 f5 26. h5 f4 27. h6
> g5 28. Rf7 (28. Rg7 f3 29. h7 f2! -+) 28...Rh4 29. h7 f3 30. Rxf3 Rxh7
> and the black rook is behind the pawn where it belongs. (...)
>
> Claus-Juergen
Hello,
This rook ending seems advantageous for black but I find some trouble
finding a winning plan.
After 31.Rg3 Rg7 32.Kb4, ...
- if black moves his king to help black pawn, white king can eat some
pawns to obtain a passed pawn in the kingside.
- if black advances his g pawn with no help of his king, it seems white
can eat it "relatively safely".
Maybe I'm wrong and last point is not true?
AT
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Date: 30 Aug 2005 16:21:27
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claus-J=FCrgen_Heigl?=
Subject: Re: [ICCF game] Analyses or comments are welcome
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Antonio Torrecillas wrote:
> En/na Claus-J=FCrgen Heigl ha escrit:
>=20
>> CiccioSPICE wrote:
>=20
> 1. e4 e5 2. d3 Nf6 3. f4 Nc6 4. Nf3 d5 5. Nxe5 dxe4 6. Nxc6 bxc6
> 7. dxe4 Bb4+ 8. c3 Qxd1+ 9. Kxd1 Nxe4 10. Be3 Bc5 11. Bxc5 Nxc5
> 12. Nd2 Bf5 13. Kc1 O-O-O 14. Nf3 Rhe8 15. b3 Nd3+ 16. Bxd3 Rxd3
> 17. Kb2 Re2+ 18. Ka3 Be4 19. Rae1 Rxe1 20. Rxe1 Bxf3 21. gxf3 Rxf3
> 22. Re8+ Kb7 23. Rh8 Rxf4 24. Rxh7 g5 25.h3 f6 26.c4 c5 27. Rh6 Kb6
> 28. Ka4 c6 29. Rh7 Rf2 30. Ka3 Rf3 31. h4 Rh3 32.Rh6 gxh4
> 33. Rxf6 Kc7 34. Rf7+ Kd6 35. Rxa7 Ke5 36. Rc7 Kf4 37. Rxc6 Re3
> 38.Rxc5 h3 39.Rh5 Kg3 40. Kb4 Re4 41. a4 Rh4 42. Rd5 h2
> 43. Rd1 h1=3DQ 44. Rxh1 1/2-1/2
>> The only mistake by Black I can see is 24...g5. Much better is=20
>> 24...Rg4 protecting the g-pawn with the intention to run the f-pawn.=20
>> White has big problems to stop this pawn. For example 25. h4 f5 26. h5=
=20
>> f4 27. h6 g5 28. Rf7 (28. Rg7 f3 29. h7 f2! -+) 28...Rh4 29. h7 f3 30.=
=20
>> Rxf3 Rxh7 and the black rook is behind the pawn where it belongs. (..=
=2E)
> This rook ending seems advantageous for black but I find some trouble=20
> finding a winning plan.
>=20
> After 31.Rg3 Rg7 32.Kb4, ...
> - if black moves his king to help black pawn, white king can eat some=20
> pawns to obtain a passed pawn in the kingside.
> - if black advances his g pawn with no help of his king, it seems white=
=20
> can eat it "relatively safely".
I thought that Black may be able to attack the white queenside pawns=20
while the white king is away on the kingside. But the more I look into=20
it, the less this seems to be the case.
After 31. Rg3 Rg7 32. Kb4 Kb6 (Black shouldn't White allow to play Kc5=20
when the Black king is shut off) 33. Kc4 g4 34. Kd4 c5+ 35. Ke4 c4 36.=20
Kf5 cxb3 37. axb3 a5 38. Rxg4 Rxg4 39. Kxg4 Kb5 is drawn. Now I tried=20
36...Rf7+ 37. Ke4! (37. Kxg4 Rf2 38. b4 Kb5 and Black has at least=20
winning chances; 37. Ke6 Rf4 38. Ke5 Rf3 39. Rxg4 Rxc3 40. Rxc4? (40.=20
bxc4 Ra3 -/+; 40. Kd4 Rc2 41. Rg8 =3D/+) 40...Rxc4 41. bxc4 Kc5 -+)=20
37...Rf2 38. Rxg4 Rxa2 39. Kd5 (I'm not sure if White can draw 39. bxc4=20
Rd2) 39...cxb3 40. Rb4+ Ka5 41. Rxb3 and I don't think Black can win this=
=2E
Black can also choose not to advance the g-pawn to g4 and prepare the=20
attack on the queenside immediately but this gives White the control=20
over the 4th rank. 33...a5 34. Rg4 Rg8 35. Kd4 c5+ 26. Kd3! (26. Kd5 c6+ =
27. Ke5 c4 gives Black chances) and I don't see how Black can break the=20
blockade of the 4th rank.
Claus-Juergen
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Date: 31 Aug 2005 01:08:44
From: Antonio Torrecillas
Subject: Re: [ICCF game] Analyses or comments are welcome
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En/na Claus-J�rgen Heigl ha escrit:
>> 1. e4 e5 2. d3 Nf6 3. f4 Nc6 4. Nf3 d5 5. Nxe5 dxe4 6. Nxc6 bxc6
>> 7. dxe4 Bb4+ 8. c3 Qxd1+ 9. Kxd1 Nxe4 10. Be3 Bc5 11. Bxc5 Nxc5
>> 12. Nd2 Bf5 13. Kc1 O-O-O 14. Nf3 Rhe8 15. b3 Nd3+ 16. Bxd3 Rxd3
>> 17. Kb2 Re2+ 18. Ka3 Be4 19. Rae1 Rxe1 20. Rxe1 Bxf3 21. gxf3 Rxf3
>> 22. Re8+ Kb7 23. Rh8 Rxf4 24. Rxh7 g5 25.h3 f6 26.c4 c5 27. Rh6 Kb6
>> 28. Ka4 c6 29. Rh7 Rf2 30. Ka3 Rf3 31. h4 Rh3 32.Rh6 gxh4
>> 33. Rxf6 Kc7 34. Rf7+ Kd6 35. Rxa7 Ke5 36. Rc7 Kf4 37. Rxc6 Re3
>> 38.Rxc5 h3 39.Rh5 Kg3 40. Kb4 Re4 41. a4 Rh4 42. Rd5 h2
>> 43. Rd1 h1=Q 44. Rxh1 1/2-1/2
>
>> This rook ending seems advantageous for black but I find some trouble
>> finding a winning plan.
>>
>> After 31.Rg3 Rg7 32.Kb4, ...
>> - if black moves his king to help black pawn, white king can eat some
>> pawns to obtain a passed pawn in the kingside.
>> - if black advances his g pawn with no help of his king, it seems
>> white can eat it "relatively safely".
>
> I thought that Black may be able to attack the white queenside pawns
> while the white king is away on the kingside. But the more I look into
> it, the less this seems to be the case.
>
> After 31. Rg3 Rg7 32. Kb4 Kb6 (Black shouldn't White allow to play Kc5
> when the Black king is shut off) 33. Kc4 g4 34. Kd4 c5+ 35. Ke4 c4 36.
> Kf5 cxb3 37. axb3 a5 38. Rxg4 Rxg4 39. Kxg4 Kb5 is drawn. Now I tried
> 36...Rf7+ 37. Ke4! (37. Kxg4 Rf2 38. b4 Kb5 and Black has at least
> winning chances; 37. Ke6 Rf4 38. Ke5 Rf3 39. Rxg4 Rxc3 40. Rxc4? (40.
> bxc4 Ra3 -/+; 40. Kd4 Rc2 41. Rg8 =/+) 40...Rxc4 41. bxc4 Kc5 -+)
> 37...Rf2 38. Rxg4 Rxa2 39. Kd5 (I'm not sure if White can draw 39. bxc4
> Rd2) 39...cxb3 40. Rb4+ Ka5 41. Rxb3 and I don't think Black can win this.
>
> Black can also choose not to advance the g-pawn to g4 and prepare the
> attack on the queenside immediately but this gives White the control
> over the 4th rank. 33...a5 34. Rg4 Rg8 35. Kd4 c5+ 26. Kd3! (26. Kd5 c6+
> 27. Ke5 c4 gives Black chances) and I don't see how Black can break the
> blockade of the 4th rank.
>
> Claus-Juergen
You have gone very deep into the position, it's very difficult to find a
wining plan (if it exists)
In Batsford Chess Endings (Speelman), page 295 we can read:
"if the rook is behind the passed pawn the position is usually won"
in next page we can read:
"it's vital to keep the passed pawn as far as possible, with it only on
the 4th rank white may be able to activate his rook for one final burst
of activity" (meaning rook can eat a pawn and go to first line)
There is no menction to bad pawn structure (for the side with a pawn
plus) but I think in this case is the main theme.
There are two endings in that book about that theme, one is the well
known Alekhine-Capablanca and the second one is:
[Event "rook ending: R+PPP+P/R+PPP"]
[Site "Ch URS, Moscow (Russia)"]
[Date "1955.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Botvinnik M"]
[Black "Borisenko Georgy K (RUS)"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E62"]
[PlyCount "121"]
1. c4 Nf6 2. d4 g6 3. g3 Bg7 4. Bg2 O-O 5. Nc3 d6 6. Nf3 Nc6 7. d5 Na5
8. Nd2 c5 9. Qc2 e6 10. O-O exd5 11. cxd5 Re8 12. b3 b5 13. Bb2 Rb8
14.a3 Bd7 15.Rfe1 Nb7 16. Nce4 Nxd5 17. Bxg7 Kxg7 18. Qb2+ f6 19. Nxc5
dxc5 20. Bxd5 Nd6 21.e4 Rc8 22. Rac1 Nf7 23. Nf3 Be6 24. Rcd1 Bxd5
25.Rxd5 Qe7 26. e5 Red8 27. Rxd8 Rxd8 28. e6 Nd6 29. Qc3 Nf5 30. Re4 h5
31. Re1 Rd5 32. Qc2 Qd6 33. Qxf5 Rxf5 34. e7 Qd7 35. e8=Q Qxe8 36. Rxe8
Rxf3 37. Re7+ Kh6 38. b4 Rxa3 39. bxc5 a5 40.Rb7 b4 41. c6 Rc3 42. c7 b3
43. Rxb3 Rxc7 44. Ra3 Ra7 {diagram #}
45. Ra4 $1 Kg5 (45...Kg7 $1 46. f3 Kf7 47. h4 $1 Ke6 $1 48. g4 Kd5
49.gxh5 gxh5 50. Kf2 Kc5 51. Ke3 Kb5 52. Ra1 Re7+ $1 53. Kf4 Re5 54.Rb1+
Kc5 55. Rc1+ Kb4 56. Rc6 a4 57. Rxf6 Ra5 58. Rb6+ Rb5 59. Ra6 a3 60. Ke4
Kb3 61. f4 a2 62. Rxa2 Kxa2 63. f5 Rb4+ {winning (Speelman's full
analysis is given in BCE)}) 46. f3 $1 Kf5 $2 (46... f5 ) 47. g4+ hxg4 $6
(47... Ke6) 48. fxg4+ Ke5 (48... Kg5 $1 49. Kg2 Kh4 50. Kg1 Kh3 51. Kh1
Re7 52. Ra3+ Kxg4 53. Rxa5 {which is still theoretically drawn but not
easy to defend.}) 49. h4 Kd5 50. h5 gxh5 51. gxh5 Ke6 (51... Kc5 52. h6
Kb5 53. Rh4 Rh7 54. Rh5+ Kb4 55. Rh4+ Kb3 56. Rh3+ Kb2 57. Rh4 $1) 52.
h6 Kf7 53. Rg4 Kf8 54. Rf4 Ra6 55. Rg4 Ra7 56. Rf4 Kg8 57. Rxf6 a4 58.
Rf2 Kh7 59. Ra2 Kxh6 60. Kf2 Kg5 61. Ke3 1/2-1/2
I have no more rook ending books but this one is very instructive, ...
maybe in some enciclopaedia there are a sample more close?
AT
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Date: 01 Sep 2005 19:53:14
From: Few Good Chessmen
Subject: Re: [ICCF game] Analyses or comments are welcome
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"Antonio Torrecillas" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> En/na Claus-J�rgen Heigl ha escrit:
> >> 1. e4 e5 2. d3 Nf6 3. f4 Nc6 4. Nf3 d5 5. Nxe5 dxe4 6. Nxc6 bxc6
> >> 7. dxe4 Bb4+ 8. c3 Qxd1+ 9. Kxd1 Nxe4 10. Be3 Bc5 11. Bxc5 Nxc5
> >> 12. Nd2 Bf5 13. Kc1 O-O-O 14. Nf3 Rhe8 15. b3 Nd3+ 16. Bxd3 Rxd3
> >> 17. Kb2 Re2+ 18. Ka3 Be4 19. Rae1 Rxe1 20. Rxe1 Bxf3 21. gxf3 Rxf3
> >> 22. Re8+ Kb7 23. Rh8 Rxf4 24. Rxh7 g5 25.h3 f6 26.c4 c5 27. Rh6 Kb6
> >> 28. Ka4 c6 29. Rh7 Rf2 30. Ka3 Rf3 31. h4 Rh3 32.Rh6 gxh4
> >> 33. Rxf6 Kc7 34. Rf7+ Kd6 35. Rxa7 Ke5 36. Rc7 Kf4 37. Rxc6 Re3
> >> 38.Rxc5 h3 39.Rh5 Kg3 40. Kb4 Re4 41. a4 Rh4 42. Rd5 h2
> >> 43. Rd1 h1=Q 44. Rxh1 1/2-1/2
> >
> >> This rook ending seems advantageous for black but I find some trouble
> >> finding a winning plan.
> >>
> >> After 31.Rg3 Rg7 32.Kb4, ...
> >> - if black moves his king to help black pawn, white king can eat some
> >> pawns to obtain a passed pawn in the kingside.
> >> - if black advances his g pawn with no help of his king, it seems
> >> white can eat it "relatively safely".
> >
> > I thought that Black may be able to attack the white queenside pawns
> > while the white king is away on the kingside. But the more I look into
> > it, the less this seems to be the case.
> >
> > After 31. Rg3 Rg7 32. Kb4 Kb6 (Black shouldn't White allow to play Kc5
> > when the Black king is shut off) 33. Kc4 g4 34. Kd4 c5+ 35. Ke4 c4 36.
> > Kf5 cxb3 37. axb3 a5 38. Rxg4 Rxg4 39. Kxg4 Kb5 is drawn. Now I tried
> > 36...Rf7+ 37. Ke4! (37. Kxg4 Rf2 38. b4 Kb5 and Black has at least
> > winning chances; 37. Ke6 Rf4 38. Ke5 Rf3 39. Rxg4 Rxc3 40. Rxc4? (40.
> > bxc4 Ra3 -/+; 40. Kd4 Rc2 41. Rg8 =/+) 40...Rxc4 41. bxc4 Kc5 -+)
> > 37...Rf2 38. Rxg4 Rxa2 39. Kd5 (I'm not sure if White can draw 39. bxc4
> > Rd2) 39...cxb3 40. Rb4+ Ka5 41. Rxb3 and I don't think Black can win
this.
> >
> > Black can also choose not to advance the g-pawn to g4 and prepare the
> > attack on the queenside immediately but this gives White the control
> > over the 4th rank. 33...a5 34. Rg4 Rg8 35. Kd4 c5+ 26. Kd3! (26. Kd5 c6+
> > 27. Ke5 c4 gives Black chances) and I don't see how Black can break the
> > blockade of the 4th rank.
> >
> > Claus-Juergen
>
> You have gone very deep into the position, it's very difficult to find a
> wining plan (if it exists)
>
> In Batsford Chess Endings (Speelman), page 295 we can read:
> "if the rook is behind the passed pawn the position is usually won"
>
> in next page we can read:
> "it's vital to keep the passed pawn as far as possible, with it only on
> the 4th rank white may be able to activate his rook for one final burst
> of activity" (meaning rook can eat a pawn and go to first line)
>
> There is no menction to bad pawn structure (for the side with a pawn
> plus) but I think in this case is the main theme.
>
> There are two endings in that book about that theme, one is the well
> known Alekhine-Capablanca and the second one is:
>
> [Event "rook ending: R+PPP+P/R+PPP"]
> [Site "Ch URS, Moscow (Russia)"]
> [Date "1955.??.??"]
> [Round "?"]
> [White "Botvinnik M"]
> [Black "Borisenko Georgy K (RUS)"]
> [Result "1/2-1/2"]
> [ECO "E62"]
> [PlyCount "121"]
>
> 1. c4 Nf6 2. d4 g6 3. g3 Bg7 4. Bg2 O-O 5. Nc3 d6 6. Nf3 Nc6 7. d5 Na5
> 8. Nd2 c5 9. Qc2 e6 10. O-O exd5 11. cxd5 Re8 12. b3 b5 13. Bb2 Rb8
> 14.a3 Bd7 15.Rfe1 Nb7 16. Nce4 Nxd5 17. Bxg7 Kxg7 18. Qb2+ f6 19. Nxc5
> dxc5 20. Bxd5 Nd6 21.e4 Rc8 22. Rac1 Nf7 23. Nf3 Be6 24. Rcd1 Bxd5
> 25.Rxd5 Qe7 26. e5 Red8 27. Rxd8 Rxd8 28. e6 Nd6 29. Qc3 Nf5 30. Re4 h5
> 31. Re1 Rd5 32. Qc2 Qd6 33. Qxf5 Rxf5 34. e7 Qd7 35. e8=Q Qxe8 36. Rxe8
> Rxf3 37. Re7+ Kh6 38. b4 Rxa3 39. bxc5 a5 40.Rb7 b4 41. c6 Rc3 42. c7 b3
> 43. Rxb3 Rxc7 44. Ra3 Ra7 {diagram #}
> 45. Ra4 $1 Kg5 (45...Kg7 $1 46. f3 Kf7 47. h4 $1 Ke6 $1 48. g4 Kd5
> 49.gxh5 gxh5 50. Kf2 Kc5 51. Ke3 Kb5 52. Ra1 Re7+ $1 53. Kf4 Re5 54.Rb1+
> Kc5 55. Rc1+ Kb4 56. Rc6 a4 57. Rxf6 Ra5 58. Rb6+ Rb5 59. Ra6 a3 60. Ke4
> Kb3 61. f4 a2 62. Rxa2 Kxa2 63. f5 Rb4+ {winning (Speelman's full
> analysis is given in BCE)}) 46. f3 $1 Kf5 $2 (46... f5 ) 47. g4+ hxg4 $6
> (47... Ke6) 48. fxg4+ Ke5 (48... Kg5 $1 49. Kg2 Kh4 50. Kg1 Kh3 51. Kh1
> Re7 52. Ra3+ Kxg4 53. Rxa5 {which is still theoretically drawn but not
> easy to defend.}) 49. h4 Kd5 50. h5 gxh5 51. gxh5 Ke6 (51... Kc5 52. h6
> Kb5 53. Rh4 Rh7 54. Rh5+ Kb4 55. Rh4+ Kb3 56. Rh3+ Kb2 57. Rh4 $1) 52.
> h6 Kf7 53. Rg4 Kf8 54. Rf4 Ra6 55. Rg4 Ra7 56. Rf4 Kg8 57. Rxf6 a4 58.
> Rf2 Kh7 59. Ra2 Kxh6 60. Kf2 Kg5 61. Ke3 1/2-1/2
>
> I have no more rook ending books but this one is very instructive, ...
> maybe in some enciclopaedia there are a sample more close?
Don't know how close this sample position (Minus the 3-3 Pawns count on
Kingside but covering the essential) may be to you but after 44. Ra3 Ra7 I
see the scope of Defending Rook (Passively blocking the Passed Pawn) limited
only within his 4th Rank (Not in favour of generalised rules for this sort
of Rook Ending) therefore can't assist Kingside Pawns advancement and be
more involved in Kingside Counter-plays, etc.
Bondarevsky vs. Keres, Moscow 1947.
8/k7/P6R/1K3r1P/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
1. Ra3 Ke4 2. Ra4 Kf5 3. Kh5 Ke5 4. Kg4 Ke6 5. Kf4 Kf6 6. Ke4 Ke6 7. Ra3 Ke7
8. Ke5 Ke8 9. h4 Ke7 10. h5 Ke8 11. Kd5 Kd7 12. Kc5 Kc7 13. Kb5 Rf6 14. Rc3
Kb7 15. Rc5 Rf1 16. a6 Ka7 17. Rc7 Kb8 18. Rc6 Ka7 19. Rh6 Rf5 - Draw
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Date: 01 Sep 2005 20:21:56
From: Few Good Chessmen
Subject: Re: [ICCF game] Analyses or comments are welcome
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"Few Good Chessmen" <[email protected] > wrote in message
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> "Antonio Torrecillas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > En/na Claus-J�rgen Heigl ha escrit:
> > >> 1. e4 e5 2. d3 Nf6 3. f4 Nc6 4. Nf3 d5 5. Nxe5 dxe4 6. Nxc6 bxc6
> > >> 7. dxe4 Bb4+ 8. c3 Qxd1+ 9. Kxd1 Nxe4 10. Be3 Bc5 11. Bxc5 Nxc5
> > >> 12. Nd2 Bf5 13. Kc1 O-O-O 14. Nf3 Rhe8 15. b3 Nd3+ 16. Bxd3 Rxd3
> > >> 17. Kb2 Re2+ 18. Ka3 Be4 19. Rae1 Rxe1 20. Rxe1 Bxf3 21. gxf3 Rxf3
> > >> 22. Re8+ Kb7 23. Rh8 Rxf4 24. Rxh7 g5 25.h3 f6 26.c4 c5 27. Rh6 Kb6
> > >> 28. Ka4 c6 29. Rh7 Rf2 30. Ka3 Rf3 31. h4 Rh3 32.Rh6 gxh4
> > >> 33. Rxf6 Kc7 34. Rf7+ Kd6 35. Rxa7 Ke5 36. Rc7 Kf4 37. Rxc6 Re3
> > >> 38.Rxc5 h3 39.Rh5 Kg3 40. Kb4 Re4 41. a4 Rh4 42. Rd5 h2
> > >> 43. Rd1 h1=Q 44. Rxh1 1/2-1/2
> > >
> > >> This rook ending seems advantageous for black but I find some trouble
> > >> finding a winning plan.
> > >>
> > >> After 31.Rg3 Rg7 32.Kb4, ...
> > >> - if black moves his king to help black pawn, white king can eat some
> > >> pawns to obtain a passed pawn in the kingside.
> > >> - if black advances his g pawn with no help of his king, it seems
> > >> white can eat it "relatively safely".
> > >
> > > I thought that Black may be able to attack the white queenside pawns
> > > while the white king is away on the kingside. But the more I look into
> > > it, the less this seems to be the case.
> > >
> > > After 31. Rg3 Rg7 32. Kb4 Kb6 (Black shouldn't White allow to play Kc5
> > > when the Black king is shut off) 33. Kc4 g4 34. Kd4 c5+ 35. Ke4 c4 36.
> > > Kf5 cxb3 37. axb3 a5 38. Rxg4 Rxg4 39. Kxg4 Kb5 is drawn. Now I tried
> > > 36...Rf7+ 37. Ke4! (37. Kxg4 Rf2 38. b4 Kb5 and Black has at least
> > > winning chances; 37. Ke6 Rf4 38. Ke5 Rf3 39. Rxg4 Rxc3 40. Rxc4? (40.
> > > bxc4 Ra3 -/+; 40. Kd4 Rc2 41. Rg8 =/+) 40...Rxc4 41. bxc4 Kc5 -+)
> > > 37...Rf2 38. Rxg4 Rxa2 39. Kd5 (I'm not sure if White can draw 39.
bxc4
> > > Rd2) 39...cxb3 40. Rb4+ Ka5 41. Rxb3 and I don't think Black can win
> this.
> > >
> > > Black can also choose not to advance the g-pawn to g4 and prepare the
> > > attack on the queenside immediately but this gives White the control
> > > over the 4th rank. 33...a5 34. Rg4 Rg8 35. Kd4 c5+ 26. Kd3! (26. Kd5
c6+
> > > 27. Ke5 c4 gives Black chances) and I don't see how Black can break
the
> > > blockade of the 4th rank.
> > >
> > > Claus-Juergen
> >
> > You have gone very deep into the position, it's very difficult to find a
> > wining plan (if it exists)
> >
> > In Batsford Chess Endings (Speelman), page 295 we can read:
> > "if the rook is behind the passed pawn the position is usually won"
> >
> > in next page we can read:
> > "it's vital to keep the passed pawn as far as possible, with it only on
> > the 4th rank white may be able to activate his rook for one final burst
> > of activity" (meaning rook can eat a pawn and go to first line)
> >
> > There is no menction to bad pawn structure (for the side with a pawn
> > plus) but I think in this case is the main theme.
> >
> > There are two endings in that book about that theme, one is the well
> > known Alekhine-Capablanca and the second one is:
> >
> > [Event "rook ending: R+PPP+P/R+PPP"]
> > [Site "Ch URS, Moscow (Russia)"]
> > [Date "1955.??.??"]
> > [Round "?"]
> > [White "Botvinnik M"]
> > [Black "Borisenko Georgy K (RUS)"]
> > [Result "1/2-1/2"]
> > [ECO "E62"]
> > [PlyCount "121"]
> >
> > 1. c4 Nf6 2. d4 g6 3. g3 Bg7 4. Bg2 O-O 5. Nc3 d6 6. Nf3 Nc6 7. d5 Na5
> > 8. Nd2 c5 9. Qc2 e6 10. O-O exd5 11. cxd5 Re8 12. b3 b5 13. Bb2 Rb8
> > 14.a3 Bd7 15.Rfe1 Nb7 16. Nce4 Nxd5 17. Bxg7 Kxg7 18. Qb2+ f6 19. Nxc5
> > dxc5 20. Bxd5 Nd6 21.e4 Rc8 22. Rac1 Nf7 23. Nf3 Be6 24. Rcd1 Bxd5
> > 25.Rxd5 Qe7 26. e5 Red8 27. Rxd8 Rxd8 28. e6 Nd6 29. Qc3 Nf5 30. Re4 h5
> > 31. Re1 Rd5 32. Qc2 Qd6 33. Qxf5 Rxf5 34. e7 Qd7 35. e8=Q Qxe8 36. Rxe8
> > Rxf3 37. Re7+ Kh6 38. b4 Rxa3 39. bxc5 a5 40.Rb7 b4 41. c6 Rc3 42. c7 b3
> > 43. Rxb3 Rxc7 44. Ra3 Ra7 {diagram #}
> > 45. Ra4 $1 Kg5 (45...Kg7 $1 46. f3 Kf7 47. h4 $1 Ke6 $1 48. g4 Kd5
> > 49.gxh5 gxh5 50. Kf2 Kc5 51. Ke3 Kb5 52. Ra1 Re7+ $1 53. Kf4 Re5 54.Rb1+
> > Kc5 55. Rc1+ Kb4 56. Rc6 a4 57. Rxf6 Ra5 58. Rb6+ Rb5 59. Ra6 a3 60. Ke4
> > Kb3 61. f4 a2 62. Rxa2 Kxa2 63. f5 Rb4+ {winning (Speelman's full
> > analysis is given in BCE)}) 46. f3 $1 Kf5 $2 (46... f5 ) 47. g4+ hxg4 $6
> > (47... Ke6) 48. fxg4+ Ke5 (48... Kg5 $1 49. Kg2 Kh4 50. Kg1 Kh3 51. Kh1
> > Re7 52. Ra3+ Kxg4 53. Rxa5 {which is still theoretically drawn but not
> > easy to defend.}) 49. h4 Kd5 50. h5 gxh5 51. gxh5 Ke6 (51... Kc5 52. h6
> > Kb5 53. Rh4 Rh7 54. Rh5+ Kb4 55. Rh4+ Kb3 56. Rh3+ Kb2 57. Rh4 $1) 52.
> > h6 Kf7 53. Rg4 Kf8 54. Rf4 Ra6 55. Rg4 Ra7 56. Rf4 Kg8 57. Rxf6 a4 58.
> > Rf2 Kh7 59. Ra2 Kxh6 60. Kf2 Kg5 61. Ke3 1/2-1/2
> >
> > I have no more rook ending books but this one is very instructive, ...
> > maybe in some enciclopaedia there are a sample more close?
>
> Don't know how close this sample position (Minus the 3-3 Pawns count on
> Kingside but covering the essential) may be to you but after 44. Ra3 Ra7 I
> see the scope of Defending Rook (Passively blocking the Passed Pawn)
limited
> only within his 4th Rank (Not in favour of generalised rules for this sort
> of Rook Ending) therefore can't assist Kingside Pawns advancement and be
> more involved in Kingside Counter-plays, etc.
> Bondarevsky vs. Keres, Moscow 1947.
> 8/k7/P6R/1K3r1P/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
The sample is 8/8/r6p/P7/7K/5k2/R6P/8 w - - 0 1. The one before is final
position.
> 1. Ra3 Ke4 2. Ra4 Kf5 3. Kh5 Ke5 4. Kg4 Ke6 5. Kf4 Kf6 6. Ke4 Ke6 7. Ra3
Ke7
> 8. Ke5 Ke8 9. h4 Ke7 10. h5 Ke8 11. Kd5 Kd7 12. Kc5 Kc7 13. Kb5 Rf6 14.
Rc3
> Kb7 15. Rc5 Rf1 16. a6 Ka7 17. Rc7 Kb8 18. Rc6 Ka7 19. Rh6 Rf5 - Draw
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