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Date: 26 Feb 2008 01:12:47
From: Sanny
Subject: Is sacrificing Rook for Knight Correct.
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In below game Help Bot Sacrificed its Rook for a Knight.
Advantage of this Sacrifice.
1. King became Open as g2 Pawn was at f3.
2. Double pawns at f2 and f3.
But is this sacrifice Correct?
As after some moves White Exchanged its double Pawn. Yes the king file
was Open. But still Rook is +2 points than a Knight.
Game Played between help bot and easy at GetClub.com
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help bot: (Black)
easy: (White)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM17212&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(easy) -- (help bot)
1. e2-e4{0} e7-e5{4}
2. Ng1-f3{28} Ng8-f6{18}
3. Nb1-c3{28} Nb8-c6{8}
4. Bf1-c4{32} Nf6-e4{38}
5. Bc4-f7{44} Ke8-f7{6}
6. Nc3-e4{32} Bf8-e7{44}
7. c2-c4{20} Rh8-f8{26}
8. Ke1-g1{32} Kf7-g8{12}
9. Qd1-b3{32} Kg8-h8{48}
10. d2-d3{26} d7-d6{26}
11. Rf1-e1{36} Rf8-f3{20}
12. g2-f3{28} Nc6-d4{10}
13. Qb3-d1{24} Bc8-h3{52}
14. f3-f4{30} Qd8-e8{20}
15. Re1-e3{46} Bh3-d7{68}
16. f4-e5{50} d6-e5{18}
17. Bc1-d2{22} Nd4-e6{48}
18. Ra1-b1{42} Qe8-f7{34}
19. Re3-f3{30} Qf7-e8{78}
20. Rb1-a1{90} Ra8-d8{36}
21. Bd2-c3{20} Bd7-c6{38}
22. Qd1-f1{20} Ne6-g5{72}
23. Rf3-e3{20} Qe8-h5{62}
24. Ne4-g5{26} Qh5-g5{60}
25. Re3-g3{32} Qg5-f6{60}
26. Qf1-e1{26} Be7-d6{52}
27. Qe1-e3{24} b7-b6{12}
28. b2-b4{52} Rd8-e8{86}
29. c4-c5{20} Bd6-f8{12}
30. Rg3-g5{26} b6-c5{54}
31. Rg5-e5{30} Re8-e5{12}
32. Bc3-e5{28} Qf6-g6{34}
33. Qe3-g3{34} Qg6-f7{98}
34. a2-a3{32} Qf7-d5{330}
35. f2-f4{24} a7-a5{120}
36. b4-b5{22} Bc6-b5{50}
37. f4-f5{32} Bb5-d3{108}
38. f5-f6{28} Kh8-g8{38}
39. f6-g7{26} Bf8-e7{164}
40. Qg3-e3{22} c5-c4{48}
41. Be5-d4{20} c4-c3{286}
42. Ra1-e1{44} Bd3-b5{54}
43. a3-a4{30} Bb5-a4{94}
44. Qe3-e5{24} Qd5-e5{120}
45. Bd4-e5{34} c3-c2{80}
46. Re1-a1{20} Ba4-b3{92}
47. Be5-b2{32} a5-a4{32}
48. Kg1-h1{32} a4-a3{102}
49. Bb2-e5{36} Be7-g5{70}
50. h2-h3{48} Qc2-c1{Q}{56}
51. Ra1-c1{20} Bg5-c1{12}
52. Be5-c7{20} Bc1-b2{16}
53. Kh1-h2{72} a3-a2{20}
54. Kh2-g2{24} Qa2-a1{Q}{20}
55. Bc7-f4{22} Qa1-e1{30}
56. h3-h4{38} Bb3-d5{24}
57. Kg2-h3{46}
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help bot: (Black)
easy: (White)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM17212&game=Chess
Why did Help Bot sacrificed Rook for just a Knight? was it a correct
Move?
What were the wrong moves played by Easy Level that it lost in 57
Moves?
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 04:37:43
From: SBD
Subject: Re: Is sacrificing Rook for Knight Correct.
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On Feb 27, 5:38=A0am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> You can win
>
> Beginner Level in 60-65 Moves
> Easy Level in 70-80 Moves.
> Normal Level may be in 90-100 Moves.
> Master Level -> Never.
You are clueless.
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 03:38:00
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Is sacrificing Rook for Knight Correct.
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> =A0 The program did act as though it's QR were
> glued to the square a1 for much of the early
> part of the game. =A0I wonder if it "thought" by
> doing so, it maintained the option of castling
> Queenside if the King ever made it back to
> e1?
>
> =A0 If I got this same opening position again, I
> would play the very same sacrifice; but this
> time, I would follow up a bit more thoughtfully.
>
> =A0 -- help bot
Remember this time play a bit strong game as the Game was improved
today and it will be very difficult to win the game if you sacrifice
the same way. This time you will need 70-80 Moves to Win the Easy
Level.
Everytime you play with Easy Level you will have to fight for 70-80
Moves then only you can win the game. And I doubt if you can ever win
the Normal Level.
You can win
Beginner Level in 60-65 Moves
Easy Level in 70-80 Moves.
Normal Level may be in 90-100 Moves.
Master Level - > Never.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 15:38:18
From: yearlypap08
Subject: Re: Is sacrificing Rook for Knight Correct.
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Sanny;260390 Wrote:
> The program did act as though it's QR were-
> glued to the square a1 for much of the early
> part of the game. I wonder if it "thought" by
> doing so, it maintained the option of castling
> Queenside if the King ever made it back to
> e1?
>
> If I got this same opening position again, I
> would play the very same sacrifice; but this
> time, I would follow up a bit more thoughtfully.
>
> -- help bot-
>
> Remember this time play a bit strong game as the Game was improved
> today and it will be very difficult to win the game if you sacrifice
> the same way. This time you will need 70-80 Moves to Win the Easy
> Level.
>
> Everytime you play with Easy Level you will have to fight for 70-80
> Moves then only you can win the game. And I doubt if you can ever win
> the Normal Level.
>
> You can win
>
> Beginner Level in 60-65 Moves
> Easy Level in 70-80 Moves.
> Normal Level may be in 90-100 Moves.
> Master Level - Never.
>
> Bye
> Sanny
>
> Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Sanny,
http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...338&game=Chess
On the latest game, it doesn't look like the bishop sac was correct
GetClub Normal lost material as a result. The game was controlled fro
then on by Rybka.
Do you have a comments section at your site for each game that i
posted? That would be a good idea for consolidation.
Gotta go
--
yearlypap08
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 02:29:19
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Is sacrificing Rook for Knight Correct.
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On Feb 26, 2:41 pm, tin Brown <
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Date: 27 Feb 2008 01:29:01
From: Sanny
Subject: Normal Defended Rybka till 48 Moves.
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On Feb 27, 12:41=A0am, tin Brown <
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Date:
From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: Is sacrificing Rook for Knight Correct.
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 08:11:27
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Is sacrificing Rook for Knight Correct.
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> =A0 Too many to count. =A0In order to lose to a very
> weak player like help bot, it must have made a
> whole slew of errors! =A0Maybe Fritz can graph
> the game, pinpointing the biggest blunders... .
>
Yes, What was the biggest mistake with GetClub Game?
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 26 Feb 2008 02:14:55
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Is sacrificing Rook for Knight Correct.
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On Feb 26, 4:12 am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> In below game Help Bot Sacrificed its Rook for a Knight.
Help bot is a terrible weak fish; everyone knows
that a Rook is worth more than a Knight!
> As after some moves White Exchanged its double Pawn. Yes the king file
> was Open. But still Rook is +2 points than a Knight.
Maybe help bot is worse than I thought. Maybe
even his follow-up was clumsy?
> Why did Help Bot sacrificed Rook for just a Knight?
Maybe he just didn't see the Rook could be
captured?
> was it a correct Move?
Perhaps. But these positional sacrifices are
much too difficult for weak players to attempt.
Better to stick to trading down to the endgame,
where even weak players like help bot can
easily outplay the GetClub program!
> What were the wrong moves played by Easy Level that it lost in 57
> Moves?
Too many to count. In order to lose to a very
weak player like help bot, it must have made a
whole slew of errors! Maybe Fritz can graph
the game, pinpointing the biggest blunders... .
-- Fritz bot
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