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Date: 01 Dec 2006 04:49:38
From: samsloan
Subject: Robert Tanner's Game
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When he filed his response to the ethics complaint, Robert Tanner
included a chess game he had player which proved, he said, that he was
a master.
Nobody has commented on this game, but I find the game to be rather
rekable.
Mr. Tanner submitted the game in a ChessBase printout, with five
diagrams.
Here is the document which Mr. Tanner submitted:
http://www.samsloan.com/tanner-game.jpg
Here is the game in PGN Format
[Event "Clark County Open Championship"]
[Site "Las Vegas, Nevada"]
[Date "1987.09.09"]
[White "Tanner, Robert"]
[Black "Madden"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B53"]
[WhiteElo "2185"]
[BlackElo "2009"]
[PlyCount "65"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7
6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. c4 Nf6 8. Nc3 g6 9. O-O Bg7 10. Qd3 O-O
11. Nd4 Rc8 12. Rd1 Qa5 13. Nd5 Bxd5 14. cxd5 Nd7
15. Bd2 Qb6 16. Nb3 Ne5 17. Qh3 Rc2 18. Be3 Qb4
19. Bd4 f5 20. f4 Nc4 21. Bxg7 Kxg7 22. Nd4 Rf6
23. e5 dxe5 24. fxe5 Nxe5 25. Nxc2 Qxb2 26. Nd4 Ng4
27. Qg3 h5 28. h3 f4 29. Qe1 Ne3 30. Rd2 Qb6
31. Rb1 Qc5 32. Ne6+ Rxe6 33. dxe6 1-0
Here is what Mr. Tanner wrote about the game:
"Given that the MSA only goes back to 1991 Sam did not have the
information for the period when I earned my title. My title was first
earned in the Clark (Las Vegas) County Open (held September 1987. I
scored 3-0 and then withdrew. I did this as I had three times
previously earned the title in an event only to lose points in the last
round and not go over 2200. The final point was earned against an
expert, Madden (first name unknown). I played in several events
thereafter and lost the master rating a few months later. Attached is a
copy of the key game."
What does anybody think about this game?
Sam Sloan
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 17:37:28
From:
Subject: Re: Robert Tanner's Game
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Sounds like FIDE President Kirsan's position agains cus Roberts. It
is going to get real hard to raise any money for that little Russian
republcian Kirsan owns. I have contacts all over the world.
cus Roberts
Randy Bauer wrote:
> Randy Bauer wrote:
> > Mike Murray wrote:
> > > On 1 Dec 2006 06:49:56 -0800, "Randy Bauer" <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >> [Event "Clark County Open Championship"]
> > > >> [Site "Las Vegas, Nevada"]
> > > >> [Date "1987.09.09"]
> > > >> [White "Tanner, Robert"]
> > > >> [Black "Madden"]
> > > >> [Result "1-0"]
> > > >> [ECO "B53"]
> > > >> [WhiteElo "2185"]
> > > >> [BlackElo "2009"]
> > > >> [PlyCount "65"]
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7
> > > >> 6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. c4 Nf6 8. Nc3 g6 9. O-O Bg7 10. Qd3 O-O
> > > >> 11. Nd4 Rc8 12. Rd1 Qa5 13. Nd5 Bxd5 14. cxd5 Nd7
> > > >> 15. Bd2 Qb6 16. Nb3 Ne5 17. Qh3 Rc2 18. Be3 Qb4
> > > >> 19. Bd4 f5 20. f4 Nc4 21. Bxg7 Kxg7 22. Nd4 Rf6
> > > >> 23. e5 dxe5 24. fxe5 Nxe5 25. Nxc2 Qxb2 26. Nd4 Ng4
> > > >> 27. Qg3 h5 28. h3 f4 29. Qe1 Ne3 30. Rd2 Qb6
> > > >> 31. Rb1 Qc5 32. Ne6+ Rxe6 33. dxe6 1-0
> > >
> > > >In the final position, I don't see a useful discovery for black, so
> > > >while I suppose he could play a couple more moves, resigning isn't all
> > > >that surprising. It looks like what it was -- a game between a low and
> > > >high expert.
> > >
> > > OK, Randy, tell us why resigning wouldn't be all that surprising after
> > > something like 33 ... Q-KB4, threatening ... f3 when the Knight is
> > > immune because the Rook hangs. Black has two pawns for the Exchange,
> > > and White's pawn on e6 will probably fall.
> > >
> > > >Randy Bauer
> >
> > I still don't see anything after 33..Qf5 34.Rxb7.
> >
> > Randy
>
> Also, black is down A ROOK and an exchange, not just an exchange.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 08:09:51
From: Randy Bauer
Subject: Re: Robert Tanner's Game
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Mike Murray wrote:
> On 1 Dec 2006 07:38:23 -0800, "Randy Bauer" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Randy Bauer wrote:
> >> Mike Murray wrote:
> >> > On 1 Dec 2006 06:49:56 -0800, "Randy Bauer" <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >> [Event "Clark County Open Championship"]
> >> > >> [Site "Las Vegas, Nevada"]
> >> > >> [Date "1987.09.09"]
> >> > >> [White "Tanner, Robert"]
> >> > >> [Black "Madden"]
> >> > >> [Result "1-0"]
> >> > >> [ECO "B53"]
> >> > >> [WhiteElo "2185"]
> >> > >> [BlackElo "2009"]
> >> > >> [PlyCount "65"]
>
> >> > >> 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7
> >> > >> 6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. c4 Nf6 8. Nc3 g6 9. O-O Bg7 10. Qd3 O-O
> >> > >> 11. Nd4 Rc8 12. Rd1 Qa5 13. Nd5 Bxd5 14. cxd5 Nd7
> >> > >> 15. Bd2 Qb6 16. Nb3 Ne5 17. Qh3 Rc2 18. Be3 Qb4
> >> > >> 19. Bd4 f5 20. f4 Nc4 21. Bxg7 Kxg7 22. Nd4 Rf6
> >> > >> 23. e5 dxe5 24. fxe5 Nxe5 25. Nxc2 Qxb2 26. Nd4 Ng4
> >> > >> 27. Qg3 h5 28. h3 f4 29. Qe1 Ne3 30. Rd2 Qb6
> >> > >> 31. Rb1 Qc5 32. Ne6+ Rxe6 33. dxe6 1-0
>
> >> > >In the final position, I don't see a useful discovery for black, so
> >> > >while I suppose he could play a couple more moves, resigning isn't all
> >> > >that surprising. It looks like what it was -- a game between a low and
> >> > >high expert.
>
> >> > OK, Randy, tell us why resigning wouldn't be all that surprising after
> >> > something like 33 ... Q-KB4, threatening ... f3 when the Knight is
> >> > immune because the Rook hangs. Black has two pawns for the Exchange,
> >> > and White's pawn on e6 will probably fall.
>
> >> > >Randy Bauer
>
> >> I still don't see anything after 33..Qf5 34.Rxb7.
>
> >> Randy
> >
> >Also, black is down A ROOK and an exchange, not just an exchange.
>
> I made an error when I played the game out. I moved 17 ... Rc7 (not
> ... Rc2 -- too much descriptive notation in my youth), and the game
> seems to *play* after that, although it would be a blunder allowing
> White to pin the Q to the R.
>
> With Black's Rook on c2, Black's 22 ... Rf6 makes no sense -- White
> can just take the other Rook with his knight.
Agreed, but, for example, 22...Rxb2 23.Ne6+ gets ugly in a hurry as
well after 23...Kg8 24.Nxf8 Kxf8 25.exf5. Black has some tactics and
tricks, but white should be winning.
Randy
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 07:56:54
From: Randy Bauer
Subject: Re: Robert Tanner's Game
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[email protected] wrote:
> En/na samsloan ha escrit:
> > [Event "Clark County Open Championship"]
> > [Site "Las Vegas, Nevada"]
> > [Date "1987.09.09"]
> > [White "Tanner, Robert"]
> > [Black "Madden"]
> > [Result "1-0"]
> > [ECO "B53"]
> > [WhiteElo "2185"]
> > [BlackElo "2009"]
> > [PlyCount "65"]
> >
> > 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7
> > 6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. c4 Nf6 8. Nc3 g6 9. O-O Bg7 10. Qd3 O-O
> > 11. Nd4 Rc8 12. Rd1 Qa5 13. Nd5 Bxd5 14. cxd5 Nd7
> > 15. Bd2 Qb6 16. Nb3 Ne5 17. Qh3 Rc2 18. Be3 Qb4
> > 19. Bd4 f5 20. f4 Nc4 21. Bxg7 Kxg7 22. Nd4 Rf6
> > 23. e5 dxe5 24. fxe5 Nxe5 25. Nxc2 Qxb2 26. Nd4 Ng4
> > 27. Qg3 h5 28. h3 f4 29. Qe1 Ne3 30. Rd2 Qb6
> > 31. Rb1 Qc5 32. Ne6+ Rxe6 33. dxe6 1-0
> >
> > Here is what Mr. Tanner wrote about the game:
> >
> > (...) My title was first
> > earned in the Clark (Las Vegas) County Open (held September 1987. I
> > scored 3-0 and then withdrew. I did this as I had three times
> > previously earned the title in an event only to lose points in the last
> > round and not go over 2200. The final point was earned against an
> > expert, Madden (first name unknown). I played in several events
> > thereafter and lost the master rating a few months later. Attached is a
> > copy of the key game."
> >
> > What does anybody think about this game?
> >
> > Sam Sloan
>
> It seems a "correct game" until blacks mistakes 19... f5?, 20...Nc4?
> and 22....Rf6 losing an entire rook. The continuation of the game was
> unnecessary.
>
> The opening phase was played acurately and middlegame phase too until
> fatal mistakes.
>
> There are games between 2200 players similar to this one, ... well,
> black played below this level.
>
> AT
I agree with your comments, although I think black is in pretty poor
shape regardless after 22.Nd4. You're right that black played below
2200 level, which is not surprising, since his rating was barely above
2000.
I think a better way to organize typical dark square counterplay in
these types of positions would be 17...Nc4. Black has to be careful
about tactics against his Rc8 (because of the queen's placement on h3),
but I think he gets pretty good counterplay after that move.
Randy
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 07:41:18
From:
Subject: Re: Robert Tanner's Game
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En/na samsloan ha escrit:
> [Event "Clark County Open Championship"]
> [Site "Las Vegas, Nevada"]
> [Date "1987.09.09"]
> [White "Tanner, Robert"]
> [Black "Madden"]
> [Result "1-0"]
> [ECO "B53"]
> [WhiteElo "2185"]
> [BlackElo "2009"]
> [PlyCount "65"]
>
> 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7
> 6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. c4 Nf6 8. Nc3 g6 9. O-O Bg7 10. Qd3 O-O
> 11. Nd4 Rc8 12. Rd1 Qa5 13. Nd5 Bxd5 14. cxd5 Nd7
> 15. Bd2 Qb6 16. Nb3 Ne5 17. Qh3 Rc2 18. Be3 Qb4
> 19. Bd4 f5 20. f4 Nc4 21. Bxg7 Kxg7 22. Nd4 Rf6
> 23. e5 dxe5 24. fxe5 Nxe5 25. Nxc2 Qxb2 26. Nd4 Ng4
> 27. Qg3 h5 28. h3 f4 29. Qe1 Ne3 30. Rd2 Qb6
> 31. Rb1 Qc5 32. Ne6+ Rxe6 33. dxe6 1-0
>
> Here is what Mr. Tanner wrote about the game:
>
> (...) My title was first
> earned in the Clark (Las Vegas) County Open (held September 1987. I
> scored 3-0 and then withdrew. I did this as I had three times
> previously earned the title in an event only to lose points in the last
> round and not go over 2200. The final point was earned against an
> expert, Madden (first name unknown). I played in several events
> thereafter and lost the master rating a few months later. Attached is a
> copy of the key game."
>
> What does anybody think about this game?
>
> Sam Sloan
It seems a "correct game" until blacks mistakes 19... f5?, 20...Nc4?
and 22....Rf6? losing an entire rook. The continuation of the game was
unnecessary.
The opening phase was played acurately and middlegame phase too until
fatal mistakes.
There are games between 2200 players similar to this one, ... well,
black played below this level.
AT
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 07:41:04
From:
Subject: Re: Robert Tanner's Game
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En/na samsloan ha escrit:
> [Event "Clark County Open Championship"]
> [Site "Las Vegas, Nevada"]
> [Date "1987.09.09"]
> [White "Tanner, Robert"]
> [Black "Madden"]
> [Result "1-0"]
> [ECO "B53"]
> [WhiteElo "2185"]
> [BlackElo "2009"]
> [PlyCount "65"]
>
> 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7
> 6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. c4 Nf6 8. Nc3 g6 9. O-O Bg7 10. Qd3 O-O
> 11. Nd4 Rc8 12. Rd1 Qa5 13. Nd5 Bxd5 14. cxd5 Nd7
> 15. Bd2 Qb6 16. Nb3 Ne5 17. Qh3 Rc2 18. Be3 Qb4
> 19. Bd4 f5 20. f4 Nc4 21. Bxg7 Kxg7 22. Nd4 Rf6
> 23. e5 dxe5 24. fxe5 Nxe5 25. Nxc2 Qxb2 26. Nd4 Ng4
> 27. Qg3 h5 28. h3 f4 29. Qe1 Ne3 30. Rd2 Qb6
> 31. Rb1 Qc5 32. Ne6+ Rxe6 33. dxe6 1-0
>
> Here is what Mr. Tanner wrote about the game:
>
> (...) My title was first
> earned in the Clark (Las Vegas) County Open (held September 1987. I
> scored 3-0 and then withdrew. I did this as I had three times
> previously earned the title in an event only to lose points in the last
> round and not go over 2200. The final point was earned against an
> expert, Madden (first name unknown). I played in several events
> thereafter and lost the master rating a few months later. Attached is a
> copy of the key game."
>
> What does anybody think about this game?
>
> Sam Sloan
It seems a "correct game" until blacks mistakes 19... f5?, 20...Nc4?
and 22....Rf6 losing an entire rook. The continuation of the game was
unnecessary.
The opening phase was played acurately and middlegame phase too until
fatal mistakes.
There are games between 2200 players similar to this one, ... well,
black played below this level.
AT
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 07:38:23
From: Randy Bauer
Subject: Re: Robert Tanner's Game
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Randy Bauer wrote:
> Mike Murray wrote:
> > On 1 Dec 2006 06:49:56 -0800, "Randy Bauer" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >> [Event "Clark County Open Championship"]
> > >> [Site "Las Vegas, Nevada"]
> > >> [Date "1987.09.09"]
> > >> [White "Tanner, Robert"]
> > >> [Black "Madden"]
> > >> [Result "1-0"]
> > >> [ECO "B53"]
> > >> [WhiteElo "2185"]
> > >> [BlackElo "2009"]
> > >> [PlyCount "65"]
> > >>
> > >> 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7
> > >> 6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. c4 Nf6 8. Nc3 g6 9. O-O Bg7 10. Qd3 O-O
> > >> 11. Nd4 Rc8 12. Rd1 Qa5 13. Nd5 Bxd5 14. cxd5 Nd7
> > >> 15. Bd2 Qb6 16. Nb3 Ne5 17. Qh3 Rc2 18. Be3 Qb4
> > >> 19. Bd4 f5 20. f4 Nc4 21. Bxg7 Kxg7 22. Nd4 Rf6
> > >> 23. e5 dxe5 24. fxe5 Nxe5 25. Nxc2 Qxb2 26. Nd4 Ng4
> > >> 27. Qg3 h5 28. h3 f4 29. Qe1 Ne3 30. Rd2 Qb6
> > >> 31. Rb1 Qc5 32. Ne6+ Rxe6 33. dxe6 1-0
> >
> > >In the final position, I don't see a useful discovery for black, so
> > >while I suppose he could play a couple more moves, resigning isn't all
> > >that surprising. It looks like what it was -- a game between a low and
> > >high expert.
> >
> > OK, Randy, tell us why resigning wouldn't be all that surprising after
> > something like 33 ... Q-KB4, threatening ... f3 when the Knight is
> > immune because the Rook hangs. Black has two pawns for the Exchange,
> > and White's pawn on e6 will probably fall.
> >
> > >Randy Bauer
>
> I still don't see anything after 33..Qf5 34.Rxb7.
>
> Randy
Also, black is down A ROOK and an exchange, not just an exchange.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 08:01:58
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Robert Tanner's Game
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On 1 Dec 2006 07:38:23 -0800, "Randy Bauer" <[email protected] >
wrote:
>
>Randy Bauer wrote:
>> Mike Murray wrote:
>> > On 1 Dec 2006 06:49:56 -0800, "Randy Bauer" <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >> [Event "Clark County Open Championship"]
>> > >> [Site "Las Vegas, Nevada"]
>> > >> [Date "1987.09.09"]
>> > >> [White "Tanner, Robert"]
>> > >> [Black "Madden"]
>> > >> [Result "1-0"]
>> > >> [ECO "B53"]
>> > >> [WhiteElo "2185"]
>> > >> [BlackElo "2009"]
>> > >> [PlyCount "65"]
>> > >> 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7
>> > >> 6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. c4 Nf6 8. Nc3 g6 9. O-O Bg7 10. Qd3 O-O
>> > >> 11. Nd4 Rc8 12. Rd1 Qa5 13. Nd5 Bxd5 14. cxd5 Nd7
>> > >> 15. Bd2 Qb6 16. Nb3 Ne5 17. Qh3 Rc2 18. Be3 Qb4
>> > >> 19. Bd4 f5 20. f4 Nc4 21. Bxg7 Kxg7 22. Nd4 Rf6
>> > >> 23. e5 dxe5 24. fxe5 Nxe5 25. Nxc2 Qxb2 26. Nd4 Ng4
>> > >> 27. Qg3 h5 28. h3 f4 29. Qe1 Ne3 30. Rd2 Qb6
>> > >> 31. Rb1 Qc5 32. Ne6+ Rxe6 33. dxe6 1-0
>> > >In the final position, I don't see a useful discovery for black, so
>> > >while I suppose he could play a couple more moves, resigning isn't all
>> > >that surprising. It looks like what it was -- a game between a low and
>> > >high expert.
>> > OK, Randy, tell us why resigning wouldn't be all that surprising after
>> > something like 33 ... Q-KB4, threatening ... f3 when the Knight is
>> > immune because the Rook hangs. Black has two pawns for the Exchange,
>> > and White's pawn on e6 will probably fall.
>> > >Randy Bauer
>> I still don't see anything after 33..Qf5 34.Rxb7.
>> Randy
>
>Also, black is down A ROOK and an exchange, not just an exchange.
I made an error when I played the game out. I moved 17 ... Rc7 (not
... Rc2 -- too much descriptive notation in my youth), and the game
seems to *play* after that, although it would be a blunder allowing
White to pin the Q to the R.
With Black's Rook on c2, Black's 22 ... Rf6 makes no sense -- White
can just take the other Rook with his knight.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 07:33:55
From: Randy Bauer
Subject: Re: Robert Tanner's Game
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Mike Murray wrote:
> On 1 Dec 2006 06:49:56 -0800, "Randy Bauer" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >> [Event "Clark County Open Championship"]
> >> [Site "Las Vegas, Nevada"]
> >> [Date "1987.09.09"]
> >> [White "Tanner, Robert"]
> >> [Black "Madden"]
> >> [Result "1-0"]
> >> [ECO "B53"]
> >> [WhiteElo "2185"]
> >> [BlackElo "2009"]
> >> [PlyCount "65"]
> >>
> >> 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7
> >> 6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. c4 Nf6 8. Nc3 g6 9. O-O Bg7 10. Qd3 O-O
> >> 11. Nd4 Rc8 12. Rd1 Qa5 13. Nd5 Bxd5 14. cxd5 Nd7
> >> 15. Bd2 Qb6 16. Nb3 Ne5 17. Qh3 Rc2 18. Be3 Qb4
> >> 19. Bd4 f5 20. f4 Nc4 21. Bxg7 Kxg7 22. Nd4 Rf6
> >> 23. e5 dxe5 24. fxe5 Nxe5 25. Nxc2 Qxb2 26. Nd4 Ng4
> >> 27. Qg3 h5 28. h3 f4 29. Qe1 Ne3 30. Rd2 Qb6
> >> 31. Rb1 Qc5 32. Ne6+ Rxe6 33. dxe6 1-0
>
> >In the final position, I don't see a useful discovery for black, so
> >while I suppose he could play a couple more moves, resigning isn't all
> >that surprising. It looks like what it was -- a game between a low and
> >high expert.
>
> OK, Randy, tell us why resigning wouldn't be all that surprising after
> something like 33 ... Q-KB4, threatening ... f3 when the Knight is
> immune because the Rook hangs. Black has two pawns for the Exchange,
> and White's pawn on e6 will probably fall.
>
> >Randy Bauer
I still don't see anything after 33..Qf5 34.Rxb7.
Randy
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 07:15:49
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Robert Tanner's Game
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Randy Bauer wrote:
> Black overreaches with 19...f5; before that, white probably has no more
> than a slight edge. I think black is pretty much toast after 26.Nd4.
> In the final position, I don't see a useful discovery for black, so
> while I suppose he could play a couple more moves, resigning isn't all
> that surprising. It looks like what it was -- a game between a low and
> high expert.
>
> Randy Bauer
Did you play over the game blindfolded, or did you set up the board and
pieces?
Sam Sloan
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 06:49:56
From: Randy Bauer
Subject: Re: Robert Tanner's Game
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samsloan wrote:
> When he filed his response to the ethics complaint, Robert Tanner
> included a chess game he had player which proved, he said, that he was
> a master.
>
> Nobody has commented on this game, but I find the game to be rather
> rekable.
>
> Mr. Tanner submitted the game in a ChessBase printout, with five
> diagrams.
>
> Here is the document which Mr. Tanner submitted:
>
> http://www.samsloan.com/tanner-game.jpg
>
> Here is the game in PGN Format
>
>
> [Event "Clark County Open Championship"]
> [Site "Las Vegas, Nevada"]
> [Date "1987.09.09"]
> [White "Tanner, Robert"]
> [Black "Madden"]
> [Result "1-0"]
> [ECO "B53"]
> [WhiteElo "2185"]
> [BlackElo "2009"]
> [PlyCount "65"]
>
> 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7
> 6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. c4 Nf6 8. Nc3 g6 9. O-O Bg7 10. Qd3 O-O
> 11. Nd4 Rc8 12. Rd1 Qa5 13. Nd5 Bxd5 14. cxd5 Nd7
> 15. Bd2 Qb6 16. Nb3 Ne5 17. Qh3 Rc2 18. Be3 Qb4
> 19. Bd4 f5 20. f4 Nc4 21. Bxg7 Kxg7 22. Nd4 Rf6
> 23. e5 dxe5 24. fxe5 Nxe5 25. Nxc2 Qxb2 26. Nd4 Ng4
> 27. Qg3 h5 28. h3 f4 29. Qe1 Ne3 30. Rd2 Qb6
> 31. Rb1 Qc5 32. Ne6+ Rxe6 33. dxe6 1-0
>
> Here is what Mr. Tanner wrote about the game:
>
> "Given that the MSA only goes back to 1991 Sam did not have the
> information for the period when I earned my title. My title was first
> earned in the Clark (Las Vegas) County Open (held September 1987. I
> scored 3-0 and then withdrew. I did this as I had three times
> previously earned the title in an event only to lose points in the last
> round and not go over 2200. The final point was earned against an
> expert, Madden (first name unknown). I played in several events
> thereafter and lost the master rating a few months later. Attached is a
> copy of the key game."
>
> What does anybody think about this game?
>
> Sam Sloan
Black overreaches with 19...f5; before that, white probably has no more
than a slight edge. I think black is pretty much toast after 26.Nd4.
In the final position, I don't see a useful discovery for black, so
while I suppose he could play a couple more moves, resigning isn't all
that surprising. It looks like what it was -- a game between a low and
high expert.
Randy Bauer
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 07:18:24
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Robert Tanner's Game
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On 1 Dec 2006 06:49:56 -0800, "Randy Bauer" <[email protected] >
wrote:
>> [Event "Clark County Open Championship"]
>> [Site "Las Vegas, Nevada"]
>> [Date "1987.09.09"]
>> [White "Tanner, Robert"]
>> [Black "Madden"]
>> [Result "1-0"]
>> [ECO "B53"]
>> [WhiteElo "2185"]
>> [BlackElo "2009"]
>> [PlyCount "65"]
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>> 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7
>> 6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. c4 Nf6 8. Nc3 g6 9. O-O Bg7 10. Qd3 O-O
>> 11. Nd4 Rc8 12. Rd1 Qa5 13. Nd5 Bxd5 14. cxd5 Nd7
>> 15. Bd2 Qb6 16. Nb3 Ne5 17. Qh3 Rc2 18. Be3 Qb4
>> 19. Bd4 f5 20. f4 Nc4 21. Bxg7 Kxg7 22. Nd4 Rf6
>> 23. e5 dxe5 24. fxe5 Nxe5 25. Nxc2 Qxb2 26. Nd4 Ng4
>> 27. Qg3 h5 28. h3 f4 29. Qe1 Ne3 30. Rd2 Qb6
>> 31. Rb1 Qc5 32. Ne6+ Rxe6 33. dxe6 1-0
>In the final position, I don't see a useful discovery for black, so
>while I suppose he could play a couple more moves, resigning isn't all
>that surprising. It looks like what it was -- a game between a low and
>high expert.
OK, Randy, tell us why resigning wouldn't be all that surprising after
something like 33 ... Q-KB4, threatening ... f3 when the Knight is
immune because the Rook hangs. Black has two pawns for the Exchange,
and White's pawn on e6 will probably fall.
>Randy Bauer
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 05:09:29
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Robert Tanner's Game
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On 1 Dec 2006 04:49:38 -0800, "samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote:
>Here is the game in PGN Format
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>[Event "Clark County Open Championship"]
>[Site "Las Vegas, Nevada"]
>[Date "1987.09.09"]
>[White "Tanner, Robert"]
>[Black "Madden"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "B53"]
>[WhiteElo "2185"]
>[BlackElo "2009"]
>[PlyCount "65"]
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>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7
>6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. c4 Nf6 8. Nc3 g6 9. O-O Bg7 10. Qd3 O-O
>11. Nd4 Rc8 12. Rd1 Qa5 13. Nd5 Bxd5 14. cxd5 Nd7
>15. Bd2 Qb6 16. Nb3 Ne5 17. Qh3 Rc2 18. Be3 Qb4
>19. Bd4 f5 20. f4 Nc4 21. Bxg7 Kxg7 22. Nd4 Rf6
>23. e5 dxe5 24. fxe5 Nxe5 25. Nxc2 Qxb2 26. Nd4 Ng4
>27. Qg3 h5 28. h3 f4 29. Qe1 Ne3 30. Rd2 Qb6
>31. Rb1 Qc5 32. Ne6+ Rxe6 33. dxe6 1-0
>What does anybody think about this game?
>Sam Sloan
Ya know, instead of resigning, I might have played on for a couple
more moves. Heh, heh, heh.
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