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Date: 18 Mar 2005 03:49:03
From: Mark Houlsby
Subject: Shamkovich-Bronstein, Tbilisi (1) 1941
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Hello all,
Yesterday I was in a local library, and read in Viktor Vasiliev's 1974
book: "Tigran Petrosian: His Life and Games" about the game in the
subject heading's having made a significant impression upon the young
Tigran Vartanovich who, at the time, was an ardent adherent and
advocate of the principles of Nimzowitsch. Evidently, it was because of
this that David Ionovich's plan of an early rook's-pawn thrust (it was
a Caro-Kann of some description) caused the future world champion to be
taken aback.
I've looked everywhere for the game: Pitt, ChessLab, ChessBase, Neven's
Research database, etc. and have found nothing.
Does anybody know anything about Shamkovich-Bronstein? Even the opening
fragment may prove useful (I play the Caro) but the entire text of the
game would be even better. Any analysis would be terrific.
TIA
k
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Date: 19 Mar 2005 04:24:26
From: Mark Houlsby
Subject: Re: Shamkovich-Bronstein, Tbilisi (1) 1941
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Many thanks for your replies.
May I ask please: What is the source for your assertion that the date
was 1942?
I may indeed contact GM Shamkovich directly :-)
Thanks again
k
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Date: 19 Mar 2005 13:01:48
From: Vladyslav Kosulin
Subject: Re: Shamkovich-Bronstein, Tbilisi (1) 1941
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Russian edition (1973) of Vasiliev's book, named "The Second 'Me' of Petrosian" ;-)
May be mistake was made during transalation, but may be the mistake was in
Russian edition, and was fixed in the English edition, who knows...
Regards,
Vlad
P.S. Unfortunately, there is a big chance the game protocols are lost. 1942 was
very tought year in Tbilisi, and this was not a championship :-(
k Houlsby wrote:
> Many thanks for your replies.
>
> May I ask please: What is the source for your assertion that the date
> was 1942?
>
> I may indeed contact GM Shamkovich directly :-)
>
> Thanks again
> k
>
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Date: 19 Mar 2005 02:33:20
From: Vladyslav Kosulin
Subject: Re: Shamkovich-Bronstein, Tbilisi (1) 1941
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You can ask him directly:
Leonid A Shamkovich
2753 Ocean Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11229-4711
(718) 891-7283
k Houlsby wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Yesterday I was in a local library, and read in Viktor Vasiliev's 1974
> book: "Tigran Petrosian: His Life and Games" about the game in the
> subject heading's having made a significant impression upon the young
> Tigran Vartanovich who, at the time, was an ardent adherent and
> advocate of the principles of Nimzowitsch. Evidently, it was because of
> this that David Ionovich's plan of an early rook's-pawn thrust (it was
> a Caro-Kann of some description) caused the future world champion to be
> taken aback.
>
> I've looked everywhere for the game: Pitt, ChessLab, ChessBase, Neven's
> Research database, etc. and have found nothing.
>
> Does anybody know anything about Shamkovich-Bronstein? Even the opening
> fragment may prove useful (I play the Caro) but the entire text of the
> game would be even better. Any analysis would be terrific.
>
> TIA
> k
>
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Date: 20 Mar 2005 09:25:44
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: Shamkovich-Bronstein, Tbilisi (1) 1941
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> You can ask him directly:
>
> Leonid A Shamkovich
> 2753 Ocean Ave
> Brooklyn, NY 11229-4711
In 1988 I took a sublet on Ocean Avenue and actually took a three-hour
lesson from Mr. Shamkovich.
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Date: 19 Mar 2005 03:45:46
From: Vladyslav Kosulin
Subject: Re: Shamkovich-Bronstein, Tbilisi (1) 1941
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By the way, the game was played in 1942, not 1941.
Vladyslav Kosulin wrote:
> You can ask him directly:
>
> Leonid A Shamkovich
> 2753 Ocean Ave
> Brooklyn, NY 11229-4711
> (718) 891-7283
>
> k Houlsby wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Yesterday I was in a local library, and read in Viktor Vasiliev's 1974
>> book: "Tigran Petrosian: His Life and Games" about the game in the
>> subject heading's having made a significant impression upon the young
>> Tigran Vartanovich who, at the time, was an ardent adherent and
>> advocate of the principles of Nimzowitsch. Evidently, it was because of
>> this that David Ionovich's plan of an early rook's-pawn thrust (it was
>> a Caro-Kann of some description) caused the future world champion to be
>> taken aback.
>>
>> I've looked everywhere for the game: Pitt, ChessLab, ChessBase, Neven's
>> Research database, etc. and have found nothing.
>>
>> Does anybody know anything about Shamkovich-Bronstein? Even the opening
>> fragment may prove useful (I play the Caro) but the entire text of the
>> game would be even better. Any analysis would be terrific.
>>
>> TIA
>> k
>>
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