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Date: 02 Aug 2005 19:17:57
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: The best chessbook ever written?
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My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
Yours?
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Date: 16 Aug 2005 23:19:29
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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Keres, Dreispringerspiel bis K=F6nigsgambit.
The Keres "bis" volumes formed the backbone of the first edition of ECO
C=2E
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Date: 16 Aug 2005 12:29:31
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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jr wrote:
> It must be painful for Kingston to give Evans credit for anything!
On the contrary, if you read my post above you will see I gave him
high praise for the book. Plus he autographed my copy!
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Date: 16 Aug 2005 12:22:50
From: jr
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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*Are you being serious here, Larry? I would agree that MCO 10 was an
excellent book of its type, certainly one of the best, maybe even *the*
best edition of MCO to that point.* Kingston
True to form, this guy continues to pick nits. Obviously there is no
ONE greatest chess book of all time, nor was it implied by Mikey (who
submitted the nomination -- not Parr). But if I had to pick one book
from my chess library on a desert island, it would be MCO-10. Maybe
it's dated, but sometimes forgotten lines are tomorrow's novelties.
It must be painful for Kingston to give Evans credit for anything!
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Date: 16 Aug 2005 11:12:52
From:
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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By the way, I've noticed that MCO 10 is probably the most likely chess
book to have been stolen from your local public library.
stoned love, Mikey
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Date: 16 Aug 2005 20:21:06
From: Harold Buck
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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In article <[email protected] >,
[email protected] wrote:
> By the way, I've noticed that MCO 10 is probably the most likely chess
> book to have been stolen from your local public library.
>
Um, I don't think so. My library wouldn't even have a book like that in
the first place.
Anyway, Chess for Dummies has to be the best chess book ever. :-)
Seriously, though, I'm not qualified to judge the best chess book ever.
But I like Silman (Reassess Your Chess) a lot.
--Harold Buck
"I used to rock and roll all night,
and party every day.
Then it was every other day. . . ."
-Homer J. Simpson
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Date: 16 Aug 2005 11:07:27
From:
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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I respectfully disagree. In my opinion, MCO 10 is the biggest, and
best edition of MCO ever published. And any player who thoroughly
studies the Sicilian section should get a good grasp of that opening.
It's not the rote memorization of moves that counts, it's having an
understanding of the positions! This has been my experience in 43
years of playing chess.
stoned love, Mikey
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Date: 16 Aug 2005 07:19:40
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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[email protected] wrote:
> <Modern Chess Openings 10th Ed. - Evans>
Are you being serious here, Larry? I would agree that MCO 10 was an
excellent book of its type, certainly one of the best, maybe even *the*
best edition of MCO to that point. But any such all-in-one openings
manual is inherently dated, and so, IMO, is pretty much disqualified
from consideration as "best chess book of all time." It would be
virtual suicide, for example, for a player today to use its
recommendations for the black side of the Sicilian Dragon, even at the
club level.
> Also see THE CHESSPLAYER'S BIBLE
>
> http://wcn.tentonhammer.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=278&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
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Date: 16 Aug 2005 06:01:01
From:
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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<Modern Chess Openings 10th Ed. - Evans >
Also see THE CHESSPLAYER'S BIBLE
http://wcn.tentonhammer.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=278&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
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Date: 16 Aug 2005 01:13:18
From:
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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Hmmmmm....I can't just pick one!
Alekhine's Best Games of Chess - Alekhine
Book of the 1924 NY Tournament - Alekhine
Complete Games of Paul Keres - Keres
Zurich 1953 Tournament - Bronstein
200 Open Games - Bronstein
500 Master Games of Chess - Tartakower/DuMont
Lasker's Greatest Chess Games 1889-1914 - Fine/Reinfeld
My Best Games of Chess - Tartakower
Chess Openings: Theory and Practice - Horowitz
Practical Chess Openings - Fine
Chess for Match Players - William Winter
Nottingham 1936 Tournament Book - Alekhine
Modern Chess Openings 10th Ed. - Evans
Chess Fundamentals - Capablanca
I'd suggest that if one were to thoroughly enjoy the above books, one
could get a fair grasp of chess.
stoned love, Mikey
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Date: 15 Aug 2005 18:49:48
From: knucmo
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:17:57 GMT, "Ray Gordon" <[email protected] >
wrote:
>My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
>
>Yours?
>
>
It's a stupid question. No chess book aims to do the same thing.
Some are books proposed by theorists, some are for beginners, some are
on openings, or strategy or tactics. Very few cover this.
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Date: 16 Aug 2005 09:26:29
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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>>My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
>>
>>Yours?
>>
>>
>
> It's a stupid question. No chess book aims to do the same thing.
> Some are books proposed by theorists, some are for beginners, some are
> on openings, or strategy or tactics. Very few cover this.
I guess having a "Best In Show" award at a dog show wouldn't work because
you can't compare different breeds.
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Date: 07 Aug 2005 19:40:24
From: chasmad
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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David Richerby wrote:
> chasmad <[email protected]> wrote:
> > How come there are no great chess books consisting of collections of
> > 1-minute games? Huh, Ray?
>
> I'd guess it's because one-minite games are hard to record except using a
> computer. So there's only been a few years in which such a book could
> have been written.
It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the games themselves
are not especially deep or worthy of publication, could it?
Many if not most masters are capable of remembering 1-minute chess
games and could record them for future publication if they thought it
was worth the trouble.
> Dave.
>
> --
> David Richerby Unholy Edible Flower (TM): it's like
> www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a flower but you can eat it and it's
> also a crime against nature!
Charles
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Date: 08 Aug 2005 11:17:53
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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chasmad <[email protected] > wrote:
> David Richerby wrote:
>> chasmad <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> How come there are no great chess books consisting of collections of
>>> 1-minute games? Huh, Ray?
>>
>> I'd guess it's because one-minite games are hard to record except using a
>> computer. So there's only been a few years in which such a book could
>> have been written.
>
> It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the games themselves
> are not especially deep or worthy of publication, could it?
I was being sarcastic. I agree entirely with you.
Dave.
--
David Richerby Slimy Pointy-Haired Gnome (TM): it's
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ like a smiling garden ornament that's
completely clueless but it's covered
in goo!
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Date: 07 Aug 2005 04:39:34
From: Inconnux
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:17:57 GMT, "Ray Gordon" <[email protected] >
wrote:
>My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
>
>Yours?
>
>
as a newb, I would say Ive enjoyed 'Reassess your Chess' by silman the
best...
J.Lohner
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Date: 06 Aug 2005 09:53:46
From: chasmad
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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Ray Gordon wrote:
> I'm surprised that "500 Master Games of Chess" has not made the list.
>
> For its day, it was a great book, and is still a must-have.
>
Gee, were those 500 games played at 1-minute time controls?
How come there are no great chess books consisting of collections of
1-minute games? Huh, Ray?
Charles
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Date: 07 Aug 2005 13:55:08
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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chasmad <[email protected] > wrote:
> How come there are no great chess books consisting of collections of
> 1-minute games? Huh, Ray?
I'd guess it's because one-minite games are hard to record except using a
computer. So there's only been a few years in which such a book could
have been written.
Dave.
--
David Richerby Unholy Edible Flower (TM): it's like
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a flower but you can eat it and it's
also a crime against nature!
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Date: 06 Aug 2005 13:01:02
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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I'm surprised that "500 Master Games of Chess" has not made the list.
For its day, it was a great book, and is still a must-have.
"Ray Gordon" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
>
> Yours?
>
>
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Date: 05 Aug 2005 18:22:09
From: Gambit
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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Ray Gordon wrote:
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> That book is in my top ten, and my opening strength is around GM, so maybe
> it should rank higher.
Exactly how does one measure this so-called "opening strength," anyway?
Is it in Elo points or do they give you like an 'A+' or 'C-' and the
like? What's the governing body that assigns players "opening
strengths?"
Seems to me that anyone who memorizes an MCO could have a "GM opening
strength." Are there actual rules for such things? I'm curious to
know what my "opening strength" might be.
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Date: 07 Aug 2005 13:53:30
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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Gambit <[email protected] > wrote:
> Ray Gordon wrote:
>> That book is in my top ten, and my opening strength is around GM, so maybe
>> it should rank higher.
>
> Exactly how does one measure this so-called "opening strength," anyway?
It's an entirely informal self-rating system based mainly on how full of
himself the rater is.
Dave.
--
David Richerby Perforated T-Shirt (TM): it's like
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a fashion statement but it's full
of holes!
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Date: 04 Aug 2005 17:31:18
From: Spencer R. Lower
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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Alekhine's Best Games of Chess.
The first one, written to convince backers that their money would not be
wasted in a world championship match with the invincible Capa. I don't know
of any other writer who had that type of pressure on his book.
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Date: 04 Aug 2005 07:45:56
From: jr
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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In my first tournament after reading How to Open a Chess Game and New
Ideas in Chess I gained around 200 ratings points.
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Date: 04 Aug 2005 14:24:15
From: Rick Friedman
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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Ray Gordon wrote:
> My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
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> Yours?
Without a doubt...
"How To Open a Chess Game". Each chapter was written by a different
grandmaster (Larry Evans, Gligoric, Benko, Petrosian, Keres, Hort &
Larsen). It was published in 1976. Unfortunately, it is out of print.
Rick
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Date: 05 Aug 2005 03:15:48
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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>> My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
>>
>> Yours?
>
> Without a doubt...
>
> "How To Open a Chess Game". Each chapter was written by a different
> grandmaster (Larry Evans, Gligoric, Benko, Petrosian, Keres, Hort &
> Larsen). It was published in 1976. Unfortunately, it is out of print.
I have a copy of that, and spent a lot of time with it. the Keres chapter
was great, but the rest of the book was just good.
That book is in my top ten, and my opening strength is around GM, so maybe
it should rank higher.
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Date: 04 Aug 2005 06:41:08
From: zdrakec
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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Two favorites:
"The Sorcerer's Apprentice" (about Bronstein);
"The Test of Time" (Kasparov).
But really there are plenty of jewels out there.
Cheers,
zdrakec
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Date: 04 Aug 2005 17:44:43
From: Jerzy
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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> Two favorites:
> "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" (about Bronstein);
> "The Test of Time" (Kasparov).
Yes, this is one of the best chess books. A friend of mine after having read
it won a strong tournament ;-)
>
> But really there are plenty of jewels out there.
That`s why it`s reasonable to vote for a favourite athor and not for a
single book ;-)
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Date: 03 Aug 2005 09:27:16
From: David Ames
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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EZoto wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:17:57 GMT, "Ray Gordon" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
> >
> >Yours?
> >
> Oh cool. A decent troll question. My vote goes to Bronsteins Zurich
> International chess tournament 1953. Tal - Botvinnik match 1960 by
> Tal a close second.
>
> EZoto
A fit answer to a deserving troll might be "Chess the Easy Way," by
Reuben Fine.
David Ames
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Date: 03 Aug 2005 09:01:16
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:17:57 GMT, "Ray Gordon" <[email protected] >
wrote:
>My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
>Yours?
Hard to declare a book "best" without reference to the book's intended
audience. The best book for a master would not necessarily be the
best book for a beginner. It also would be useful to distinguish
between historical/biographical and instructional works.
That said, if I had to be ooned on an island with just one chess
book, I'd take Tartakower and duMont's "500 Master Games of Chess".
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Date: 03 Aug 2005 18:29:22
From: Jerzy
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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>>My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
>
>>Yours?
>
> Hard to declare a book "best" without reference to the book's intended
> audience. The best book for a master would not necessarily be the
> best book for a beginner. It also would be useful to distinguish
> between historical/biographical and instructional works.
I think that you made a very correct distinction Mike.
> That said, if I had to be ooned on an island with just one chess
> book, I'd take Tartakower and duMont's "500 Master Games of Chess".
If I had to vote I wouldn`t vote for a single book but for a single author
and the winner would be probably Kasparov or Alekhine.
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Date: 03 Aug 2005 06:32:33
From: John McCumiskey
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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Greetings!
I'm torn between "Simple Chess" by Michael Stean and "The Art of Attack
in Chess" by Vukovic.
Ray Gordon wrote:
> My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
>
> Yours?
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Date: 03 Aug 2005 16:38:35
From: Peter Rice
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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Strange nobody has mentioned the usual suspect:
"Life and Games of Mikhail Tal" by Mikhail Tal.
hard to disagree with some of the other postings though.
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Date: 02 Aug 2005 22:21:31
From: Leopold
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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Hastings 1895 Tournament book
"Ray Gordon" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
>
> Yours?
>
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Date: 03 Aug 2005 02:43:20
From: Frisco Del Rosario
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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In article <[email protected] >, "Ray Gordon"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
"Capablanca's Best Games" by Golombek, with additional material by Nunn.
Capablanca's clear positional style didn't lend itself to heavy analysis,
and Golombek struck just the right mix of explanation, technical
exploration, and admiration in his notes. Nunn did the book a great
service by correcting or updating the notes while leaving Golombek's prose
intact.
--
Frisco Del Rosario
A First Book of Morphy -- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1412039061
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Date: 02 Aug 2005 19:33:07
From: EJAY
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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My Best Games Of Chess 1908-1937 by Alekhine is my favorite..Leonid
Stein Master Of Risk Strategy by Gufeld..Paul Keres Chess Master Class
by I.Neishtadt..and Chess Middlegame Planning by Romanovsky are my
Honorable Mentions
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Date: 02 Aug 2005 19:06:31
From:
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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I agree with EZoto. If I had to pick a single best book, Zurich
International 1953 by Bronstein would have to be it. A wonderful
wonderful book, full of games by the top players of an era, annotated
brilliantly and candidly by a world-class player who holds nothing
back.
One of the books that made me fall in love with chess.
- Geof Strayer
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Date: 02 Aug 2005 23:51:50
From: Neil Coward
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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"Blunder and brillancies" is the one I have enjoyed the most.
In second placed is Bruce Pandolfini's "Bobby Fischer's outrageous chess
moves"
after that is any book with a nudie woman in it.
"Ray Gordon" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
>
> Yours?
>
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Date: 02 Aug 2005 15:09:49
From: Niemand
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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Ray Gordon wrote:
> My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
Without a doubt, "The Grand Tactics of Chess" by Franklin Knowles
Young (1897). A close second: "The Nescaf=E9 Frapp=E9 Attack" by Graham
Burgess (1990). Third: Sam Sloan's magnum opus on the Damiano Gambit,
if he ever writes it.
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Date: 02 Aug 2005 23:43:52
From: Bark!
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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Na njuzima:[email protected],
Ray Gordon <[email protected] > mukotrpnim radom izna�e ovu umotvorinu:
> My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
>
> Yours?
Chess from A to Z
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Date: 02 Aug 2005 17:17:19
From: EZoto
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:17:57 GMT, "Ray Gordon" <[email protected] >
wrote:
>My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
>
>Yours?
>
Oh cool. A decent troll question. My vote goes to Bronsteins Zurich
International chess tournament 1953. Tal - Botvinnik match 1960 by
Tal a close second.
EZoto
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Date: 03 Aug 2005 04:51:54
From: Roget
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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Ray's answer thawrts the troll's bit.
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Date: 02 Aug 2005 19:23:07
From: Jerry Creed
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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I've heard about the Zurick book many times. Exactly what is it about it
that makes it so great, for learning, I assume?
"EZoto" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:1123017287.6b60b0e178b961a2c17fb7b7af40bad2@teranews...
> On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:17:57 GMT, "Ray Gordon" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
>>
>>Yours?
>>
> Oh cool. A decent troll question. My vote goes to Bronsteins Zurich
> International chess tournament 1953. Tal - Botvinnik match 1960 by
> Tal a close second.
>
> EZoto
>
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Date: 02 Aug 2005 23:41:48
From: Neil Coward
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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I found the Zurich book totally boring, packed with Russian grandmaster
draws.
The games have very scanty explanation so I can only assume the book will
appeal to extremely good players who can follow and enjoy a GM game with
very little explanation.
"Jerry Creed" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've heard about the Zurick book many times. Exactly what is it about it
> that makes it so great, for learning, I assume?
>
>
> "EZoto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1123017287.6b60b0e178b961a2c17fb7b7af40bad2@teranews...
>> On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:17:57 GMT, "Ray Gordon" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
>>>
>>>Yours?
>>>
>> Oh cool. A decent troll question. My vote goes to Bronsteins Zurich
>> International chess tournament 1953. Tal - Botvinnik match 1960 by
>> Tal a close second.
>>
>> EZoto
>>
>
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Date: 03 Aug 2005 00:32:34
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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>I found the Zurich book totally boring, packed with Russian grandmaster
>draws.
It was a beautiful book. I spent the entire first half of 1987 buried in
it.
> The games have very scanty explanation so I can only assume the book will
> appeal to extremely good players who can follow and enjoy a GM game with
> very little explanation.
I was just starting out as a tournament player and it helped me to learn how
GMs think.
The "Domination" book is from another planet, however, and will teach the
reader how to trap pieces all over the board. There's nothing like it,
anywhere.
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Date: 02 Aug 2005 23:01:54
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: The best chessbook ever written?
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>>My vote goes to "Domination in 2,545 Endgame Studies."
>>
>>Yours?
>>
> Oh cool. A decent troll question. My vote goes to Bronsteins Zurich
> International chess tournament 1953.
That's #2 on my list.
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