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Date: 14 Dec 2004 14:02:10
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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Larry Parr has posted that after the USCF moves to Crossville as a
result of which almost the entire staff in New Windsor will be
terminated, we will be hiring new staff in Crossville and the new
people there will not even know the difference between a TD and a TN.
How many here know the difference?
Hint: It has nothing to do with the speed of light.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 15 Dec 2004 07:48:08
From: R.P. Warren
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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k S. Hathaway wrote:
> Sam may be a little annoying to some of you, but
> he's usually right. If any of you really like the
> USCF then you should thank him for trying to save
> it.
Mr Hathaway seems to live on some other planet that gets poor reception
of news from earth. He needs to learn that:
1) Sam Sloan is rarely right on anything that matters.
2) Sam Sloan regularly publishes rumor and innuendo.
3) Sam Sloan often lies through his teeth.
4) Sam Sloan has no interest in 'saving' the USCF. His main interests
are:
a) Sam Sloan.
c) Finding gullible women.
b) Convincing gullible people like Mr Hathaway that Sam Sloan is a
combination of Julius Caesar, Emanuel Lasker, Clarence Darrow, Walter
Cronkite, and Jesus Christ.
5) To call Sam 'a little annoying' is like describing the Exxon Valdez
oil spill as a minor inconvenience. His ongoing inundation of this
newsgroup has about the same effect on rational discourse as the
spilled crude oil had on Alaskan wildlife.
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Date: 15 Dec 2004 06:26:24
From: Rob Mitchell
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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Jerry,
A fellow Nashvillian!! I spoke to Harry last week. Things are going
quite well with the move.
I had the same problem with perceptions from relatives from Chicago.
They were shocked when they got here to see what the area was really
like.
Where do you play chess ?
Have a great day!
Rob
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Date: 15 Dec 2004 06:21:02
From: Rob Mitchell
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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LOL
StanB wrote:
> "Rob Mitchell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Ok Sam,
> > Since the USCF will be in Tennesee:
> > define "Jack-leg", "Lick and a promise", "Shudenoughta"
> > And please use them correctly in a proper sentence.
>
> Also: Rip, shit, or bust.
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Date: 15 Dec 2004 06:02:32
From: Rob Mitchell
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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Ok Sam,
Since the USCF will be in Tennesee:
define "Jack-leg", "Lick and a promise", "Shudenoughta"
And please use them correctly in a proper sentence.
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Date: 15 Dec 2004 09:14:49
From: StanB
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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"Rob Mitchell" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ok Sam,
> Since the USCF will be in Tennesee:
> define "Jack-leg", "Lick and a promise", "Shudenoughta"
> And please use them correctly in a proper sentence.
Also: Rip, shit, or bust.
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Date: 15 Dec 2004 06:02:29
From: Rob Mitchell
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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Ok Sam,
Since the USCF will be in Tennesee:
define "Jack-leg", "Lick and a promise", "Shudenoughta"
And please use them correctly in a proper sentence.
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 17:09:32
From: R.P. Warren
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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k S. Hathaway wrote:
> Sam may be a little annoying to some of you, but
> he's usually right. If any of you really like the
> USCF then you should thank him for trying to save
> it.
Mr. Hathaway seems to live on some other planet with very poor
reception of Earth news. Otherwise he might know that:
A) Sam Sloan is seldom right on anything that matters.
B) Sam Sloan loves to spread rumor and innuendo regardless of the
facts.
C) Sam Sloan lies through his teeth whenever it suits him.
D) Sam Sloan has no interest in 'saving' the USCF.
E) Sam Sloan has really only two interests:
1) Sam Sloan
2) Convincing gullible people like Mr. Hathaway that Sam Sloan is a
latter-day combination of Julius Caesar, Clarence Darrow, Casanova, and
Jesus Christ.
F) To say Sam Sloan is "a little annoying" is like saying the Exxon
Valdez oil spill was a minor inconvenience.
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 22:06:11
From: Leopold
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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"R.P. Warren" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> k S. Hathaway wrote:
> > Sam may be a little annoying to some of you, but
> > he's usually right. If any of you really like the
> > USCF then you should thank him for trying to save
> > it.
>
> Mr. Hathaway seems to live on some other planet with very poor
> reception of Earth news. Otherwise he might know that:
>
> A) Sam Sloan is seldom right on anything that matters.
> B) Sam Sloan loves to spread rumor and innuendo regardless of the
> facts.
> C) Sam Sloan lies through his teeth whenever it suits him.
> D) Sam Sloan has no interest in 'saving' the USCF.
> E) Sam Sloan has really only two interests:
> 1) Sam Sloan
> 2) Convincing gullible people like Mr. Hathaway that Sam Sloan is a
> latter-day combination of Julius Caesar, Clarence Darrow, Casanova, and
> Jesus Christ.
> F) To say Sam Sloan is "a little annoying" is like saying the Exxon
> Valdez oil spill was a minor inconvenience.
>
I like Sam. He makes me laugh!
Leopold
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Date: 15 Dec 2004 09:08:32
From: Harold Buck
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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In article <[email protected] >,
"Leopold" <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> "R.P. Warren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > k S. Hathaway wrote:
> > > Sam may be a little annoying to some of you, but
> > > he's usually right. If any of you really like the
> > > USCF then you should thank him for trying to save
> > > it.
> >
> > Mr. Hathaway seems to live on some other planet with very poor
> > reception of Earth news. Otherwise he might know that:
> >
> > A) Sam Sloan is seldom right on anything that matters.
> > B) Sam Sloan loves to spread rumor and innuendo regardless of the
> > facts.
> > C) Sam Sloan lies through his teeth whenever it suits him.
> > D) Sam Sloan has no interest in 'saving' the USCF.
> > E) Sam Sloan has really only two interests:
> > 1) Sam Sloan
> > 2) Convincing gullible people like Mr. Hathaway that Sam Sloan is a
> > latter-day combination of Julius Caesar, Clarence Darrow, Casanova, and
> > Jesus Christ.
> > F) To say Sam Sloan is "a little annoying" is like saying the Exxon
> > Valdez oil spill was a minor inconvenience.
> >
> I like Sam. He makes me laugh!
I like watching retarded monkeys. They make me laugh, too, just not as
much.
--Harold Buck
"I used to rock and roll all night,
and party every day.
Then it was every other day. . . ."
-Homer J. Simpson
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 16:22:56
From: Rob Mitchell
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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Here are some terms for Sam to figure out:
Lick and a promise, Jack-leg, Retard
Rob
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 10:24:39
From: Kiddon
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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O.k. I asked him, but he's probably wrong too. Here's his answer:
TD = tournament director
TN = theoretical novelty.
kidon
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 15:11:23
From: Mark S. Hathaway
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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Kiddon wrote:
> O.k. I asked him, but he's probably wrong too. Here's his answer:
> TD = tournament director
> TN = theoretical novelty.
>
> kidon
Sam may be a little annoying to some of you, but
he's usually right. If any of you really like the
USCF then you should thank him for trying to save
it. So far they've been trying to self-destruct
(much like the US government) and he's using the
courts to stop them.
Secondly, a TD and TN might be many things, but in
the chess world they are a Tournament Director and
a Theoretical Novelty. But, the question was,
"what's the difference between them" and that difference
is that one's a person and the other isn't.
Nyah nyah nyah...
:-)
Go get 'em Sam!
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 20:50:22
From: Jeremy Spinrad
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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You seem like a reasonable person, but I think you are a bit too much influenced
by Sam's distortions. The USCF had nearly self destructed under previous
administrations. This administration has been cleaning house in a number of ways,
and seems to have gotten its act together (I have never said this about any of
the earlier administrations, even when they were coming in for general praise).
They have been making many tough choices. One of these tough choices was on the
move to Crossville. Several bids seemed to have merit, and they chose one of
these reasonable bids. It may be argued that it was a mistake, but choosing among
difficult nonequivalent options is hardly self-destruction. The embezzlement
claims do not seem to have any basis whatsoever. If Sam had not filed suit, the
move would simply be taking place; the nuisance suit is simply delaying matters
and adding some extra cost.
Heaven help us from being saved by Sam.
Jerry Spinrad
In article <[email protected] >, "k S. Hathaway" <[email protected]> writes:
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 17:03:55
From: Tom Fermento
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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"Jeremy Spinrad"One of these tough choices was on the
> move to Crossville. Several bids seemed to have merit, and they chose one
of these reasonable bids. >>
Have ANY of you idiots ever been to CROSSVILLE?? Have any of you ever seen
DELIVERANCE??
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Date: 15 Dec 2004 18:44:42
From: Jud McCranie
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:03:55 -0500, "Tom Fermento"
<[email protected] > wrote:
>Have ANY of you idiots ever been to CROSSVILLE?? Have any of you ever seen
>DELIVERANCE??
Have you ever seen "Midnight Cowboy"? NY is a city full of Ratso
Rizzos and perverts! :-)
---
Replace you know what by j to email
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Date: 15 Dec 2004 14:10:41
From: Jeremy Spinrad
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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I have been to Crossville, and I have seen Deliverance. Crossville is a little
resort town; outside of being in Tennessee, not close geographically or
culturally to the setting of Deliverance.
Jerry Spinrad (from Nashville, and some of my New York relatives still seem
unsure whether we have indoor plumbing)
In article <[email protected] >, "Tom Fermento" <[email protected]> writes:
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 19:21:47
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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On 14 Dec 2004 10:24:39 -0800, "Kiddon" <[email protected] > wrote:
>O.k. I asked him, but he's probably wrong too. Here's his answer:
>TD = tournament director
>TN = theoretical novelty.
>
>kidon
Right,. Your kid got it.
TN or theoretical novelty generally means a move in the openings which
is being played for the first time in grandmaster play. Grandmasters
and masters spend a lot of time trying to come up with TNs to spring
on their opponents. Nowadays they are all analyzed and played by
computers before the grandmaster plays it over the board against a
live opponent.
Chess Informant defines a TN as a move which which has never appeared
before in a previous edition of Informant.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 14:31:32
From: Peter Relska
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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"Sam Sloan" < > Right,. Your kid got it.
>
Feel better now? More important? Like you are some kind of Chess Genius??
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 09:48:29
From:
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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Actually, I think I know the answer to this one. TN stands for
Tennessee, which is the home of Nashville, Graceland and the Memphis
Queen. TD stand for touchdown, which is what the USCF will probably
metaphorically score by relocating in TN.
Or maybe Mr. Sloan is thinking about tournament directors and
theoretical novelties?
- Geof Strayer
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 13:16:06
From: Harold Buck
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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In article <[email protected] >,
[email protected] wrote:
> Actually, I think I know the answer to this one. TN stands for
> Tennessee, which is the home of Nashville, Graceland and the Memphis
> Queen. TD stand for touchdown, which is what the USCF will probably
> metaphorically score by relocating in TN.
>
> Or maybe Mr. Sloan is thinking about tournament directors and
> theoretical novelties?
>
You've made the uncommon mistake of constructing a sentence in which the
subject is "Mr. Sloan" and the word "thinking" is used.
--Harold Buck
"I used to rock and roll all night,
and party every day.
Then it was every other day. . . ."
-Homer J. Simpson
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 08:31:08
From: Kiddon
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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Sam Sloan wrote:
> On 14 Dec 2004 06:36:39 -0800, "Kiddon" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >
> >Sam Sloan wrote:
> >> Larry Parr has posted that after the USCF moves to Crossville as a
> >> result of which almost the entire staff in New Windsor will be
> >> terminated, we will be hiring new staff in Crossville and the new
> >> people there will not even know the difference between a TD and a
TN.
> >>
> >> How many here know the difference?
> >>
> >> Hint: It has nothing to do with the speed of light.
> >>
> >> Sam Sloan
> >____________________________
> >TD = tounament director; touchdown; tank destroyer, temporary duty
> >...etc...
> >
> >TN = tournament number; Twisted Nematic; Texas Nuclear (TN)
> >Technologies; thermonuclear, TN - a series of Lalic chess books
> >containing novel moves ... etc....
> >
> >More than likely, you are referring to the data entry required to
> >report tournaments. TD = tournament director; TN = tournament
number.
> >kiddon
> >
> Sorry, but you are wrong. This is because you are not really a chess
> player, although your son is a chess player.
>
> Ask your son. He probably knows.
>
> Sam Sloan
_____________________________
You are correct that I am not really a serious chess player. I have
never claimed otherwise. For a time I was involved helping organize
scholastic chess activities. but no longer. Still, I sometimes find
myself drawn to these discussions on rgcp. Why not? People who aren't
serious politicians or political activists discuss U.S. politics, don't
they? For at least a year now, my son has not been an OTB chess player
either. He is barely 13, but shot up to @ 6 ft. tall, and is
atheletic, so he has been focused on baseball and more lately,
basketball. He went many months without ever touching a chess piece or
playing on the internet. For about the past month, however, since we
got wireless DSL in the house, he has been playing Yahoo chess on his
laptop and doing quite well. So I guess there may be some degree of
re-emerging interest. But still, I doubt if his guess as to TD vs. TN
will be any better than mine.
kiddon
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 14:30:35
From: Peter Relska
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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"Kiddon" > You are correct that I am not really a serious chess player. I
have never claimed otherwise. For a time I was involved helping organize
scholastic chess activities. but no longer. >>
Arrogant Jerks like Sam are the reason that the USCF keeps getting robbed
and embezzled and is in the hands of a dyke now. Nobody has sympathy for
organizations that are perceived to be for dysfunctional jerks, and those
kind of orgs. become perfect targets for scam artists.
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 07:28:58
From: Rob Mitchell
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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According to about.com, Hassie was right. Unless you have created
another definition that no one knows.
T
Tabiya
Tactical play
TD (Tournament Director)
Tempo
Theory
Tiebreak
Time control (Time limit)
Time pressure
Titles
TN (Theoretical Novelty; see Novelty)
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 06:36:39
From: Kiddon
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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Sam Sloan wrote:
> Larry Parr has posted that after the USCF moves to Crossville as a
> result of which almost the entire staff in New Windsor will be
> terminated, we will be hiring new staff in Crossville and the new
> people there will not even know the difference between a TD and a TN.
>
> How many here know the difference?
>
> Hint: It has nothing to do with the speed of light.
>
> Sam Sloan
____________________________
TD = tounament director; touchdown; tank destroyer, temporary duty
...etc...
TN = tournament number; Twisted Nematic; Texas Nuclear (TN)
Technologies; thermonuclear, TN - a series of Lalic chess books
containing novel moves ... etc....
More than likely, you are referring to the data entry required to
report tournaments. TD = tournament director; TN = tournament number.
kiddon
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Date: 14 Dec 2004 14:54:16
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: What is the Difference between a TD and a TN?
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On 14 Dec 2004 06:36:39 -0800, "Kiddon" <[email protected] > wrote:
>
>Sam Sloan wrote:
>> Larry Parr has posted that after the USCF moves to Crossville as a
>> result of which almost the entire staff in New Windsor will be
>> terminated, we will be hiring new staff in Crossville and the new
>> people there will not even know the difference between a TD and a TN.
>>
>> How many here know the difference?
>>
>> Hint: It has nothing to do with the speed of light.
>>
>> Sam Sloan
>____________________________
>TD = tounament director; touchdown; tank destroyer, temporary duty
>...etc...
>
>TN = tournament number; Twisted Nematic; Texas Nuclear (TN)
>Technologies; thermonuclear, TN - a series of Lalic chess books
>containing novel moves ... etc....
>
>More than likely, you are referring to the data entry required to
>report tournaments. TD = tournament director; TN = tournament number.
>kiddon
>
Sorry, but you are wrong. This is because you are not really a chess
player, although your son is a chess player.
Ask your son. He probably knows.
Sam Sloan
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