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Date: 25 Feb 2007 06:43:33
From: Niri!
Subject: game analysis
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hello everybody,
i would like everybody comment on this analysis
pls do so
pls interact with me
i am 13 year old boy
i am fide rated
international rated 1978
here are my analysis
1) Carlsen,Magnus - Vishwanathan,Anand [D47]
Super GM Morelia/Linares (3), 24.02.2007
[NAVALGUND,NIRANJAN]
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e3 e6 5.Nf3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 dxc4 7.Bxc4 b5
8.Bd3 Bd6!? Anand choses unpoular line. This move was popular in 90's
but afterwards it lost its popularity.... 9.0-0 0-0 10.b3 A very good
idea by white where the bishop on c1 is well placed on b2 which
controls the very important long diagonal 10...Bb7 11.Bb2 a6
Threatning c5 with counterplay 12.Ne4 [RR 12.a4 b4 13.Ne4 Nxe4 14.Bxe4
f6 15.Bd3 c5 16.Rc1 cxd4 17.Nxd4 Rc8 18.Qe2 Rxc1 19.Rxc1 Qa8 20.f3 Rc8
21.Bc4 Nc5 22.Rd1 Be5 1/2-1/2 Savchenko,S (2512)-Boudre,J (2327)/
seille 2005/EXT 2006] 12...Nxe4 13.Bxe4 Nf6N In this position after
13.Bxe4 black can also play f5 with nimzo-indian classical structure,
for the refernce of this variation there is a game played by Murugan
as white against gunaskearan of india, where white won the game... [RR
13...f5 14.Bc2 c5 15.dxc5 Nxc5 16.b4 Ne4 17.Bb3 Qe7 18.a3 Kh8 19.Qe2
Ng5 20.Nxg5 Qxg5 21.f4 Qe7 22.Rad1 Rad8 23.Qf2 Bb8 24.Qg3 Bd5 25.Bxd5
exd5 26.Rd3 Rd7 27.Rfd1 Rfd8 28.Bd4 Murugan,K (2390)-Gunasekaran,K
(2265)/Chennai 2004/CBM 098 ext/1-0 (59)] 14.Bc2 c5 As asumed c5 is
right move here! 15.dxc5 Bxc5 Now the middlegame begins! So here white
has to make some plans Magnus played 16.Ng5 but i think Qe2 with Rfd1
then e4 and pressing black by e5! with attacking chances for white is
better. 16.Ng5 Qxd1 17.Raxd1 Here, there are two important open files,
d and c. So Rfxd1 is a good reply as Rad1 will lose a tempo again
because c file is also equally important If, Now the rook is on a1 and
will directly occupy c file by Rc1 when necessary then there is
absolutely no problem for white! 17...Kh8! setting up a trap! i hope
you recognise what happens if white takes on f6 followed by Nh7. 18.g3
THIS MOVE HAS AN ADVANTAGE AND ALSO HAS AN DISADVATNAGE. THE ADVANTAGE
IS THAT NOW WHITE THREATENS TO GRAB A PAWN ON H7, THE DISADVANTAGE IS
THAT BY THIS MOVE WHITE WEAKENS HIS WHITE SQUARES, THE BLACK'S BISHOP
ON B7 IS POWERFUL AND WILL OCCUPY F3 AS ANAND DID IN THE GAME!
[18.Bxf6 gxf6 19.Ne4 LEADS TO EQUAL POSITION(19.Nxh7 Rg8 20.g3 Kg7
simple! Is'nt it?) ] 18...h6 19.Bxf6 hxg5 20.Bb2 [20.Bxg5 f6 21.Bf4
(21.Bh4 g5 trapping bishop 22.Rd7 Bf3) 21...e5] 20...Rac8 Now white
has to occupy the c file by this we understand that 17.Rad1 was wrong
21.Rc1 Rfd8 22.Rfd1 Bf3 So this is because of the move g3!? 23.Rxd8+
Rxd8 24.a3 IN THIS POSITION BLACK HAS A GOOD BISHOP WHEREAS WHITE HAS
A BAD 24...b4 25.a4 f5 26.Kf1 f4! RIight time for the pawn to destroy
white;s king safety and pawn structure, here f4 is the best move which
wins the game quite comfortabley 27.Be4 DOES NOT SAVE THE DAY
27...Bxe4 28.Rxc5 Rd1+ 29.Ke2 Rb1 WHITE'S PAWN IN WHITE COLOUR
SQUARE!!. IN THIS GAME MANY EXCHANGES TOOK PLACE FOR WHICH BLACK
GOTAGREATINITIATIVE 30.Bc1 f3+ 31.Kd1 Rxb3 32.Rc4 Bd3 33.Rc8+ not so
much disturbing! 33...Kh7 34.e4 Rb1 35.Kd2 Bxe4 36.Ke3 Bd5 37.Bd2 Rb3+
38.Kd4 Rb2 39.Be3 Re2 40.Rc1 Ba2 ! THE FINAL TOUCH IN THIS GAME BLACK
WON ONLY BECAUSE OF HIS STRONG BISHOP WHICH WAS WELL PLACED ON F3
LATER FINISED OFF ALL THE IMPORTANT PAWNS OF WHITE'S KINGDOM...... IN
THIS GAME WHITE MADE 2 INACCURATE MOVES WHICH COSTED HIM WHOLE GAME!
17.Rad1 and g3. So with this analysis i finish my comments. Bye and
enjoy chess Thank you Line
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Date: 05 Mar 2007 16:26:47
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: game analysis
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Niri! <[email protected] > wrote:
>i would like everybody comment on this analysis
Here's the game, with Niri's analysis, in PGN.
Dave.
[Event "Super GM Morelia/Linares"]
[Site "Morelia/Linares"]
[Date "2007.02.24"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Anand, Vishwanathan"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D47"]
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e3 e6 5.Nf3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 dxc4 7.Bxc4 b5
8.Bd3 Bd6!? {Anand choses unpoular line. This move was popular in 90's
but afterwards it lost its popularity....} 9.0-0 0-0 10.b3 {A very
good idea by white where the bishop on c1 is well placed on b2 which
controls the very important long diagonal} 10...Bb7 11.Bb2 a6
{Threatning c5 with counterplay} 12.Ne4 ({RR} 12.a4 b4 13.Ne4 Nxe4
14.Bxe4 f6 15.Bd3 c5 16.Rc1 cxd4 17.Nxd4 Rc8 18.Qe2 Rxc1 19.Rxc1 Qa8
20.f3 Rc8 21.Bc4 Nc5 22.Rd1 Be5 {1/2-1/2 Savchenko,S (2512)-Boudre,J
(2327)/ seille 2005/EXT 2006}) 12...Nxe4 13.Bxe4 Nf6 {N In this
position after 13.Bxe4 black can also play f5 with nimzo-indian
classical structure, for the refernce of this variation there is a
game played by Murugan as white against gunaskearan of india, where
white won the game... }({RR} 13...f5 14.Bc2 c5 15.dxc5 Nxc5 16.b4 Ne4
17.Bb3 Qe7 18.a3 Kh8 19.Qe2 Ng5 20.Nxg5 Qxg5 21.f4 Qe7 22.Rad1 Rad8
23.Qf2 Bb8 24.Qg3 Bd5 25.Bxd5 exd5 26.Rd3 Rd7 27.Rfd1 Rfd8 28.Bd4
{Murugan,K (2390)-Gunasekaran,K (2265)/Chennai 2004/CBM 098 ext/1-0
(59)}) 14.Bc2 c5 {As asumed c5 is right move here!} 15.dxc5 Bxc5 {Now
the middlegame begins! So here white has to make some plans Magnus
played 16.Ng5 but i think Qe2 with Rfd1 then e4 and pressing black by
e5! with attacking chances for white is better.} 16.Ng5 Qxd1 17.Raxd1
{Here, there are two important open files, d and c. So Rfxd1 is a good
reply as Rad1 will lose a tempo again because c file is also equally
important If, Now the rook is on a1 and will directly occupy c file by
Rc1 when necessary then there is absolutely no problem for white!}
17...Kh8! {setting up a trap! i hope you recognise what happens if
white takes on f6 followed by Nh7.} 18.g3 {THIS MOVE HAS AN ADVANTAGE
AND ALSO HAS AN DISADVATNAGE. THE ADVANTAGE IS THAT NOW WHITE
THREATENS TO GRAB A PAWN ON H7, THE DISADVANTAGE IS THAT BY THIS MOVE
WHITE WEAKENS HIS WHITE SQUARES, THE BLACK'S BISHOP ON B7 IS POWERFUL
AND WILL OCCUPY F3 AS ANAND DID IN THE GAME! } (18.Bxf6 gxf6 19.Ne4
{LEADS TO EQUAL POSITION} (19.Nxh7 Rg8 20.g3 Kg7 {simple! Is'nt it?})
18...h6 19.Bxf6 hxg5 20.Bb2 (20.Bxg5 f6 21.Bf4 (21.Bh4 g5 {trapping
bishop} 22.Rd7 Bf3) 21...e5) 20...Rac8 {Now white has to occupy the c
file by this we understand that 17.Rad1 was wrong} 21.Rc1 Rfd8 22.Rfd1
Bf3 {So this is because of the move g3!?} 23.Rxd8+ Rxd8 24.a3 {IN THIS
POSITION BLACK HAS A GOOD BISHOP WHEREAS WHITE HAS A BAD} 24...b4
25.a4 f5 26.Kf1 f4! {RIight time for the pawn to destroy white;s king
safety and pawn structure, here f4 is the best move which wins the
game quite comfortabley} 27.Be4 {DOES NOT SAVE THE DAY} 27...Bxe4
28.Rxc5 Rd1+ 29.Ke2 Rb1 {WHITE'S PAWN IN WHITE COLOUR SQUARE!!. IN
THIS GAME MANY EXCHANGES TOOK PLACE FOR WHICH BLACK GOT A GREAT
INITIATIVE} 30.Bc1 f3+ 31.Kd1 Rxb3 32.Rc4 Bd3 33.Rc8+ {not so much
disturbing!} 33...Kh7 34.e4 Rb1 35.Kd2 Bxe4 36.Ke3 Bd5 37.Bd2 Rb3+
38.Kd4 Rb2 39.Be3 Re2 40.Rc1 Ba2! {THE FINAL TOUCH IN THIS GAME BLACK
WON ONLY BECAUSE OF HIS STRONG BISHOP WHICH WAS WELL PLACED ON F3
LATER FINISED OFF ALL THE IMPORTANT PAWNS OF WHITE'S KINGDOM...... IN
THIS GAME WHITE MADE 2 INACCURATE MOVES WHICH COSTED HIM WHOLE GAME!
17.Rad1 and g3. So with this analysis i finish my comments.} 0-1
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www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ weapon that you can share with someone
special!
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 11:06:27
From: Antonio Torrecillas
Subject: Re: game analysis
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There is some ")" missing in the pgn file, but as I can read the text I
will try to add some questions.
Niri wrote: "IN THIS GAME WHITE MADE 2 INACCURATE MOVES WHICH COSTED HIM
WHOLE GAME! 17.Rad1 and g3."
I do not agree, sometimes a mistake or inacuracy lead to disaster in
superGM games but I think it is not the case.
The suggested defence is 27.gxf4 gxf4 28.exf4 Rd2 29.Bg6!! and it seems
black must accept draw by repetition (according to some GM which
annotated the game).
I was a very diffcicult to see defence but it exists.
Some improvements for black before that 27.gxf4 has been made but that's
a second question.
AT
En/na David Richerby ha escrit:
> Niri! <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>i would like everybody comment on this analysis
>
>
> Here's the game, with Niri's analysis, in PGN.
>
>
> Dave.
>
> [Event "Super GM Morelia/Linares"]
> [Site "Morelia/Linares"]
> [Date "2007.02.24"]
> [Round "3"]
> [White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
> [Black "Anand, Vishwanathan"]
> [Result "0-1"]
> [ECO "D47"]
>
> 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e3 e6 5.Nf3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 dxc4 7.Bxc4 b5
> 8.Bd3 Bd6!? {Anand choses unpoular line. This move was popular in 90's
> but afterwards it lost its popularity....} 9.0-0 0-0 10.b3 {A very
> good idea by white where the bishop on c1 is well placed on b2 which
> controls the very important long diagonal} 10...Bb7 11.Bb2 a6
> {Threatning c5 with counterplay} 12.Ne4 ({RR} 12.a4 b4 13.Ne4 Nxe4
> 14.Bxe4 f6 15.Bd3 c5 16.Rc1 cxd4 17.Nxd4 Rc8 18.Qe2 Rxc1 19.Rxc1 Qa8
> 20.f3 Rc8 21.Bc4 Nc5 22.Rd1 Be5 {1/2-1/2 Savchenko,S (2512)-Boudre,J
> (2327)/ seille 2005/EXT 2006}) 12...Nxe4 13.Bxe4 Nf6 {N In this
> position after 13.Bxe4 black can also play f5 with nimzo-indian
> classical structure, for the refernce of this variation there is a
> game played by Murugan as white against gunaskearan of india, where
> white won the game... }({RR} 13...f5 14.Bc2 c5 15.dxc5 Nxc5 16.b4 Ne4
> 17.Bb3 Qe7 18.a3 Kh8 19.Qe2 Ng5 20.Nxg5 Qxg5 21.f4 Qe7 22.Rad1 Rad8
> 23.Qf2 Bb8 24.Qg3 Bd5 25.Bxd5 exd5 26.Rd3 Rd7 27.Rfd1 Rfd8 28.Bd4
> {Murugan,K (2390)-Gunasekaran,K (2265)/Chennai 2004/CBM 098 ext/1-0
> (59)}) 14.Bc2 c5 {As asumed c5 is right move here!} 15.dxc5 Bxc5 {Now
> the middlegame begins! So here white has to make some plans Magnus
> played 16.Ng5 but i think Qe2 with Rfd1 then e4 and pressing black by
> e5! with attacking chances for white is better.} 16.Ng5 Qxd1 17.Raxd1
> {Here, there are two important open files, d and c. So Rfxd1 is a good
> reply as Rad1 will lose a tempo again because c file is also equally
> important If, Now the rook is on a1 and will directly occupy c file by
> Rc1 when necessary then there is absolutely no problem for white!}
> 17...Kh8! {setting up a trap! i hope you recognise what happens if
> white takes on f6 followed by Nh7.} 18.g3 {THIS MOVE HAS AN ADVANTAGE
> AND ALSO HAS AN DISADVATNAGE. THE ADVANTAGE IS THAT NOW WHITE
> THREATENS TO GRAB A PAWN ON H7, THE DISADVANTAGE IS THAT BY THIS MOVE
> WHITE WEAKENS HIS WHITE SQUARES, THE BLACK'S BISHOP ON B7 IS POWERFUL
> AND WILL OCCUPY F3 AS ANAND DID IN THE GAME! } (18.Bxf6 gxf6 19.Ne4
> {LEADS TO EQUAL POSITION} (19.Nxh7 Rg8 20.g3 Kg7 {simple! Is'nt it?})
> 18...h6 19.Bxf6 hxg5 20.Bb2 (20.Bxg5 f6 21.Bf4 (21.Bh4 g5 {trapping
> bishop} 22.Rd7 Bf3) 21...e5) 20...Rac8 {Now white has to occupy the c
> file by this we understand that 17.Rad1 was wrong} 21.Rc1 Rfd8 22.Rfd1
> Bf3 {So this is because of the move g3!?} 23.Rxd8+ Rxd8 24.a3 {IN THIS
> POSITION BLACK HAS A GOOD BISHOP WHEREAS WHITE HAS A BAD} 24...b4
> 25.a4 f5 26.Kf1 f4! {RIight time for the pawn to destroy white;s king
> safety and pawn structure, here f4 is the best move which wins the
> game quite comfortabley} 27.Be4 {DOES NOT SAVE THE DAY} 27...Bxe4
> 28.Rxc5 Rd1+ 29.Ke2 Rb1 {WHITE'S PAWN IN WHITE COLOUR SQUARE!!. IN
> THIS GAME MANY EXCHANGES TOOK PLACE FOR WHICH BLACK GOT A GREAT
> INITIATIVE} 30.Bc1 f3+ 31.Kd1 Rxb3 32.Rc4 Bd3 33.Rc8+ {not so much
> disturbing!} 33...Kh7 34.e4 Rb1 35.Kd2 Bxe4 36.Ke3 Bd5 37.Bd2 Rb3+
> 38.Kd4 Rb2 39.Be3 Re2 40.Rc1 Ba2! {THE FINAL TOUCH IN THIS GAME BLACK
> WON ONLY BECAUSE OF HIS STRONG BISHOP WHICH WAS WELL PLACED ON F3
> LATER FINISED OFF ALL THE IMPORTANT PAWNS OF WHITE'S KINGDOM...... IN
> THIS GAME WHITE MADE 2 INACCURATE MOVES WHICH COSTED HIM WHOLE GAME!
> 17.Rad1 and g3. So with this analysis i finish my comments.} 0-1
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Date: 03 Mar 2007 00:07:53
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: game analysis
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WOW nice ELO for a guy your age ..
Go for it and see if you can get to 2200 + or maybe even a GM level...
You are young and st and have the drive to push yourself to get
better .......
I am ELO I200 or so ???
I am old and not very st and 0 drive to get better ..GOD that is
funny ......
You need to keep pushing yourself , just think you can say i am a
International Master or Grand Master , YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL.
Nice break down on that game , just think one move at the start of the
game can cost you to lose...That is what makes Chess so tough ..
Good Luck in your future and ill try and remember your name and maybe in
a few years ill see IM or GM in front of it..
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Date: 28 Feb 2007 11:14:41
From: SBD
Subject: Re: game analysis
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Hello, Niri, as Antonio wrote, you probably would get a lot more
commentary - most chess players would enjoy helping out a young player
like yourself - if you put the score in pgn; for me anyway, it's very
hard to cut-and-paste the above score into a form I can use.
Congratulations on your FIDE rating at such a young age!
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Date: 28 Feb 2007 21:54:16
From: Antonio Torrecillas
Subject: Re: game analysis
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En/na SBD ha escrit:
> Hello, Niri, as Antonio wrote, you probably would get a lot more
> commentary - most chess players would enjoy helping out a young player
> like yourself - if you put the score in pgn; for me anyway, it's very
> hard to cut-and-paste the above score into a form I can use.
>
> Congratulations on your FIDE rating at such a young age!
unfortunately I do not understand rusian!
http://www.crestbook.com/?q=node/314
http://www.crestbook.com/files/Linares&Morelia-07-03-www.cbv
AT
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Date: 28 Feb 2007 22:00:35
From: Antonio Torrecillas
Subject: Re: game analysis
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En/na Antonio Torrecillas ha escrit:
> En/na SBD ha escrit:
>
>> Hello, Niri, as Antonio wrote, you probably would get a lot more
>> commentary - most chess players would enjoy helping out a young player
>> like yourself - if you put the score in pgn; for me anyway, it's very
>> hard to cut-and-paste the above score into a form I can use.
>>
>> Congratulations on your FIDE rating at such a young age!
>
>
> unfortunately I do not understand rusian!
> http://www.crestbook.com/?q=node/314
> http://www.crestbook.com/files/Linares&Morelia-07-03-www.cbv
>
> AT
Another page:
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3680
Do not misunderstand me! ... I'm interested in discusing it here.
AT
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Date: 26 Feb 2007 15:27:31
From: Antonio Torrecillas
Subject: Re: game analysis
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Can we have the pgn version? (It seems a chessbase printout)
AT
En/na Niri! ha escrit:
> hello everybody,
> i would like everybody comment on this analysis
> pls do so
> pls interact with me
> i am 13 year old boy
> i am fide rated
> international rated 1978
>
> here are my analysis
>
> 1) Carlsen,Magnus - Vishwanathan,Anand [D47]
> Super GM Morelia/Linares (3), 24.02.2007
> [NAVALGUND,NIRANJAN]
> 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e3 e6 5.Nf3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 dxc4 7.Bxc4 b5
> 8.Bd3 Bd6!? Anand choses unpoular line. This move was popular in 90's
> but afterwards it lost its popularity.... 9.0-0 0-0 10.b3 A very good
> idea by white where the bishop on c1 is well placed on b2 which
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