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Date: 06 Apr 2007 05:23:15
From: samsloan
Subject: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum I hereby appeal from the two decisions of the Forum Oversight Committee suspending me from posting to the USCF Issues Forum for one week each. I appeal on the following grounds: 1. My posting, which stated that the USCF Executive Director, Bill Hall, is chronically absent from work is valid commentary. The members are entitled to know that the Executive Director often does not come into work. That is a legitimate USCF issue and thus is a proper discussion on the forum. In addition, there is the issue that the Executive Board has failed to take any action against this chronically absent employee. Bill Hall is still on the job drawing a high salary even when he is not there. The members are entitled to know about this and to discuss this subject. 2. This suspension was done by the Forum Oversight Committee. As originally set up, the Forum Oversight Committee was supposed to provide appellate review of the decisions by the moderators. It was supposed to require two moderators to remove a posting. What has happened instead is any one of three moderators or any one of eight members of the forum oversight committee could remove a posting. In my case, my posting was made on April 1, 2007 (coincidentally April Fools Day) and nobody commented on it, much less refuted or disputed it. Then on April 5, four days later, both the posting was removed and I was suspended. Thus, the forum oversight committee have become super- moderators. This is improper. Also, I must point out again that the members of this Forum Oversight Committee were appointed in an improper way. Bill Goichberg did not allow any discussion by the board members as to the merits or demerits of individual members of this committee. He simply announced the committee. Three of the six members of the board voiced objections to this committee and to the way in which it was selected. However, a vote of three out of six is not enough to overturn the committee. Thus, Bill Goichberg used a political trick to get the people he wanted on the committee. It is clear that Bill's plan all along was to have me suspended from posting to the forums and that was the reason why he adopted this tactic. 3. I am a candidate for election. Candidates for election should not be suspended from posting for any reason. If a candidate posts something false or in bad taste, it is up to his opponents or to the general membership to refute it. It simply cannot be allowed that members of the board who oppose a certain candidate can use their own hand-picked stooges to suspend a candidate from posting. As this matter concerns the election campaign that is going on right now, I request that this appeal be heard on an expedited basis. Sam Sloan
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Date: 12 Aug 2007 13:25:34
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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On 6 Apr 2007 05:23:15 -0700, "samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote: >Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum > >I hereby appeal from the two decisions of the Forum Oversight >Committee suspending me from posting to the USCF Issues Forum for one >week each. > >I appeal on the following grounds: > >1. My posting, which stated that the USCF Executive Director, Bill >Hall, is chronically absent from work is valid commentary. The members >are entitled to know that the Executive Director often does not come >into work. That is a legitimate USCF issue and thus is a proper >discussion on the forum. In addition, there is the issue that the >Executive Board has failed to take any action against this chronically >absent employee. Bill Hall is still on the job drawing a high salary >even when he is not there. The members are entitled to know about this >and to discuss this subject. > >Sam Sloan During the election campaign period, I was suspended from posting to the USCF Forums for one week for revealing that the Executive Director had constant health and absenteeism problems during the entire two years that he had been executive director. This was only one of several times that I was suspended from posting during the election campaign period for revealing the truth. Bill Hall was in the hospital in Philadelphia for most of the week of July 28-August 4, 2007 and then attended the August 4-5 delegates' meetings in a wheelchair with his foot in a bandage. This is no longer a secret as it was plainly obvious for everyone who attended the meetings to see. Will I be suspended again for revealing the truth? Sam Sloan
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Date: 12 Aug 2007 11:48:20
From: AL
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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"Sam Sloan" < > Will I be suspended again for revealing the truth? > > Who cares? Nobody in the USCF has any interest in integrity and the management of the USCF is a joke. It is amazing that the USCF has not gone out of business every year.
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 08:46:10
From: Ambassador
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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On Apr 7, 4:27 pm, Kenneth Sloan <[email protected] > wrote: > samsloan wrote: > > You should not use the word "lie". That will get you banned. > > That's a lie. > > -- > Kenneth Sloan [email protected] > Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213 > University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473 > Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/ Sam Sloan is a liar. I am a certified TD and a life member of the USCF. The organization is run by perverts, such as the convicted kidnapper, Sam Sloan. Where is the lie? The truth of the sitaution is that we are dealing with the problems of having a convicted kidnapper serve as a corporate officer. The USCF looks foolish. Sam Sloan went to prision for kidnapping. He has my vote! If people can't see the harm this convicted felon does in serving as a corporate officer, then why even have elections? cus Roberts
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Date: 11 Apr 2007 21:09:04
From: Chess Freak
Subject: Marcus Roberts is a LIAR
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> > I am a former officer (Vice President) and Life member of the United > States Chess Federation. I wrote a memo once to that idiot (for which, > the ICC exists today) that he refused to read. It was returend with > two typos. Don stated that at IBM that after the second error in > grammer, they quit reading. I offered the entire ICC setup to the > USCF, and they wouldn't not meet with me (an officer) about it. That > was one reason I quit. Why be an corporate officer with fools? History > shows, I became a multimillionare because I QUIT as a USCF corproate > officer. I used my time to make money, instead of listen to people > comment on my spelling. > > As a young USCF delegate (1991-1992) with a CS degree, I proposed the > ICC. It was refused becasue of spelling. > > cus Roberts > ICC didn't exist in 1991-1992, moron.
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Date: 07 Apr 2007 19:52:07
From:
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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samsloan wrote: [snip] samsloan, eat shit and die.
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Date: 07 Apr 2007 19:50:34
From:
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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Rob wrote: [snip] Rob, please stop flooding rec.games.chess.computer with posts that have nothing to do with computer chess.
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 18:49:30
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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On Apr 6, 6:53 pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <[email protected] > wrote: > > Since when was today a federal holiday. > > Good Friday. > > -- > Ray Gordon, Author > Price And Probability (The Value Handicapper's Bible)http://www.cybersheet.com/horsepix.html Since when did religious holidays become federal holidays? Perhaps down in the Bible belt, but not in the rest of the world. Sam Sloan
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 18:44:07
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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On Apr 6, 7:18 pm, "Rob" <[email protected] > wrote: > On Apr 6, 5:44 pm, "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > At 06:26 PM 4/6/2007 -0400, Joel Channing wrote: > > > >Meaning what? That I'm not telling the truth? Joel > > > Meaning what? That I am not telling the truth? > > > Two can play this game. > > > Just because you can reach him on the phone does not mean that he is > > in the office. > > > Today, the phones in the Crossville office were not working. Nobody > > could get through to them. > > > Have they paid their telephone bill? > > > Will I be banned, censured or reprimanded for asking this question? > > > Sam Sloan > > That is a lie Sam I spoke to everyone at the Crossville office today. You should not use the word "lie". That will get you banned. What time today did you speak to them? I understand that their phones went back on at about noontime. Still not a good sign. Sam Sloan
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Date: 07 Apr 2007 16:27:12
From: Kenneth Sloan
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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samsloan wrote: > You should not use the word "lie". That will get you banned. > That's a lie. -- Kenneth Sloan [email protected] Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213 University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473 Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 16:18:58
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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On Apr 6, 5:44 pm, "samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote: > At 06:26 PM 4/6/2007 -0400, Joel Channing wrote: > > >Meaning what? That I'm not telling the truth? Joel > > Meaning what? That I am not telling the truth? > > Two can play this game. > > Just because you can reach him on the phone does not mean that he is > in the office. > > Today, the phones in the Crossville office were not working. Nobody > could get through to them. > > Have they paid their telephone bill? > > Will I be banned, censured or reprimanded for asking this question? > > Sam Sloan That is a lie Sam I spoke to everyone at the Crossville office today.
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 15:44:18
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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At 06:26 PM 4/6/2007 -0400, Joel Channing wrote: >Meaning what? That I'm not telling the truth? Joel Meaning what? That I am not telling the truth? Two can play this game. Just because you can reach him on the phone does not mean that he is in the office. Today, the phones in the Crossville office were not working. Nobody could get through to them. Have they paid their telephone bill? Will I be banned, censured or reprimanded for asking this question? Sam Sloan
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 15:10:06
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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On Apr 6, 4:18 pm, "Rob" <[email protected] > wrote: > On Apr 6, 3:05 pm, "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 6, 3:27 pm, "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Apr 6, 2:20 pm, "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > At 01:52 PM 4/6/2007 EDT, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 4/6/2007 1:01:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > >[email protected] writes: Why is not this a valid subject for > > > > >discussion on the USCF Issues Forum? > > > > >Because you are an Executive Board member and as such it belongs in the BINFO's and most likely in the confidential BINFO's since you are discussing the personal life of an employee of the USCF. There are some issues in personnel that are simply private issues and belong inside the domain of the management of USCF and not the public purview. A little respect for privacy would go a long way. > > > > >Donna > > > > > Sorry, but I disagree. With respect to a regular mid-level employee I > > > > agree with you. However, the Executive Director is the public face of > > > > the organization. When Governor Pataki of New York was hospitalized, > > > > it was all over the news including the frequency of his bowel > > > > movements. If Bill Hall frequently does not come to work because of an > > > > "infected toe" and then a car accident, the members need to know about > > > > it, especially since the real problem is board inaction and > > > > incompetence in dealing with this issue. > > > > > And yes, I said it. This board is incompetent. > > > > > I myself did not know that Bill Hall was frequently absent from work > > > > until about two months ago. I knew that other members of the board > > > > were unhappy with Bill Hall and even wanted to fire him, but I did not > > > > know the reason, until somebody leaked me this little secret. > > > > > I would like to see some legal authority to support your claim that > > > > the Executive Director of a 501(c)(4) corporation has a "right to > > > > privacy" which protects him from having it revealed that he cannot do > > > > his job. > > > > > Sam Sloan > > > > Sam, > > > I have provided the information in previous posts. You are free to > > > call the phone number yourself to get clairification. It doe not > > > matter what kind of organization it is. You screwed up. > > > Sorry, you lose again. > > > I just called the number you posted here (866) 627-7748 and spoke to > > Mr. Carter there. > > > Mr. Carter said "in no way, shape or form" would the USCF be subject > > to the HIPPA privacy rules. > > > Sam Sloan- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Sam, > Quite odd how you got through to a government hotline on a day when > Federal Offices are closed? How did you manage that? Since when was today a federal holiday. Today is Friday, April 6. No holiday today. I did not speak to an answering machine. I spoke to a person who said his name was Carter. Sam Sloan
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 18:53:58
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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> Since when was today a federal holiday. Good Friday. -- Ray Gordon, Author Price And Probability (The Value Handicapper's Bible) http://www.cybersheet.com/horsepix.html Would someone PLEASE become Ashlee Schull's new #1 fan? She deserves better.
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 13:18:23
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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On Apr 6, 3:05 pm, "samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote: > On Apr 6, 3:27 pm, "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 6, 2:20 pm, "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > At 01:52 PM 4/6/2007 EDT, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 4/6/2007 1:01:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > >[email protected] writes: Why is not this a valid subject for > > > >discussion on the USCF Issues Forum? > > > >Because you are an Executive Board member and as such it belongs in the BINFO's and most likely in the confidential BINFO's since you are discussing the personal life of an employee of the USCF. There are some issues in personnel that are simply private issues and belong inside the domain of the management of USCF and not the public purview. A little respect for privacy would go a long way. > > > >Donna > > > > Sorry, but I disagree. With respect to a regular mid-level employee I > > > agree with you. However, the Executive Director is the public face of > > > the organization. When Governor Pataki of New York was hospitalized, > > > it was all over the news including the frequency of his bowel > > > movements. If Bill Hall frequently does not come to work because of an > > > "infected toe" and then a car accident, the members need to know about > > > it, especially since the real problem is board inaction and > > > incompetence in dealing with this issue. > > > > And yes, I said it. This board is incompetent. > > > > I myself did not know that Bill Hall was frequently absent from work > > > until about two months ago. I knew that other members of the board > > > were unhappy with Bill Hall and even wanted to fire him, but I did not > > > know the reason, until somebody leaked me this little secret. > > > > I would like to see some legal authority to support your claim that > > > the Executive Director of a 501(c)(4) corporation has a "right to > > > privacy" which protects him from having it revealed that he cannot do > > > his job. > > > > Sam Sloan > > > Sam, > > I have provided the information in previous posts. You are free to > > call the phone number yourself to get clairification. It doe not > > matter what kind of organization it is. You screwed up. > > Sorry, you lose again. > > I just called the number you posted here (866) 627-7748 and spoke to > Mr. Carter there. > > Mr. Carter said "in no way, shape or form" would the USCF be subject > to the HIPPA privacy rules. > > Sam Sloan- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Sam, Quite odd how you got through to a government hotline on a day when Federal Offices are closed? How did you manage that?
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 13:12:48
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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On Apr 6, 3:05 pm, "samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote: > On Apr 6, 3:27 pm, "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 6, 2:20 pm, "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > At 01:52 PM 4/6/2007 EDT, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 4/6/2007 1:01:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > >[email protected] writes: Why is not this a valid subject for > > > >discussion on the USCF Issues Forum? > > > >Because you are an Executive Board member and as such it belongs in the BINFO's and most likely in the confidential BINFO's since you are discussing the personal life of an employee of the USCF. There are some issues in personnel that are simply private issues and belong inside the domain of the management of USCF and not the public purview. A little respect for privacy would go a long way. > > > >Donna > > > > Sorry, but I disagree. With respect to a regular mid-level employee I > > > agree with you. However, the Executive Director is the public face of > > > the organization. When Governor Pataki of New York was hospitalized, > > > it was all over the news including the frequency of his bowel > > > movements. If Bill Hall frequently does not come to work because of an > > > "infected toe" and then a car accident, the members need to know about > > > it, especially since the real problem is board inaction and > > > incompetence in dealing with this issue. > > > > And yes, I said it. This board is incompetent. > > > > I myself did not know that Bill Hall was frequently absent from work > > > until about two months ago. I knew that other members of the board > > > were unhappy with Bill Hall and even wanted to fire him, but I did not > > > know the reason, until somebody leaked me this little secret. > > > > I would like to see some legal authority to support your claim that > > > the Executive Director of a 501(c)(4) corporation has a "right to > > > privacy" which protects him from having it revealed that he cannot do > > > his job. > > > > Sam Sloan > > > Sam, > > I have provided the information in previous posts. You are free to > > call the phone number yourself to get clairification. It doe not > > matter what kind of organization it is. You screwed up. > > Sorry, you lose again. > > I just called the number you posted here (866) 627-7748 and spoke to > Mr. Carter there. > > Mr. Carter said "in no way, shape or form" would the USCF be subject > to the HIPPA privacy rules. > > Sam Sloan- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I called as well. I got the same answering machine.
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 13:05:01
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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On Apr 6, 3:27 pm, "Rob" <[email protected] > wrote: > On Apr 6, 2:20 pm, "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > At 01:52 PM 4/6/2007 EDT, [email protected] wrote: > > > > In a message dated 4/6/2007 1:01:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > >[email protected] writes: Why is not this a valid subject for > > >discussion on the USCF Issues Forum? > > >Because you are an Executive Board member and as such it belongs in the BINFO's and most likely in the confidential BINFO's since you are discussing the personal life of an employee of the USCF. There are some issues in personnel that are simply private issues and belong inside the domain of the management of USCF and not the public purview. A little respect for privacy would go a long way. > > >Donna > > > Sorry, but I disagree. With respect to a regular mid-level employee I > > agree with you. However, the Executive Director is the public face of > > the organization. When Governor Pataki of New York was hospitalized, > > it was all over the news including the frequency of his bowel > > movements. If Bill Hall frequently does not come to work because of an > > "infected toe" and then a car accident, the members need to know about > > it, especially since the real problem is board inaction and > > incompetence in dealing with this issue. > > > And yes, I said it. This board is incompetent. > > > I myself did not know that Bill Hall was frequently absent from work > > until about two months ago. I knew that other members of the board > > were unhappy with Bill Hall and even wanted to fire him, but I did not > > know the reason, until somebody leaked me this little secret. > > > I would like to see some legal authority to support your claim that > > the Executive Director of a 501(c)(4) corporation has a "right to > > privacy" which protects him from having it revealed that he cannot do > > his job. > > > Sam Sloan > > Sam, > I have provided the information in previous posts. You are free to > call the phone number yourself to get clairification. It doe not > matter what kind of organization it is. You screwed up. Sorry, you lose again. I just called the number you posted here (866) 627-7748 and spoke to Mr. Carter there. Mr. Carter said "in no way, shape or form" would the USCF be subject to the HIPPA privacy rules. Sam Sloan
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 12:53:09
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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On Apr 6, 3:27 pm, "Rob" <[email protected] > wrote: > On Apr 6, 2:20 pm, "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > At 01:52 PM 4/6/2007 EDT, [email protected] wrote: > > > > In a message dated 4/6/2007 1:01:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > >[email protected] writes: Why is not this a valid subject for > > >discussion on the USCF Issues Forum? > > >Because you are an Executive Board member and as such it belongs in the BINFO's and most likely in the confidential BINFO's since you are discussing the personal life of an employee of the --- In [email protected], "robmtchl" <[email protected]> wrote: > There is an employer/employee relationship that exists here Sam. The > law is quite clear about the responsibilities of each. You, as a > member of the management structure, are held to a higher standard. > That is one of the reasons this law was passed. Which law? Please cite the code number. Bill Hall is the management. That is why what you write does not apply to him. This problem with Bill Hall being often absent from work has been going on for nearly two years. It explains a lot of the problems the USCF has been having and it is time that the problem be addressed. Sam Sloan
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 12:27:40
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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On Apr 6, 2:20 pm, "samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote: > At 01:52 PM 4/6/2007 EDT, [email protected] wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/6/2007 1:01:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >[email protected] writes: Why is not this a valid subject for > >discussion on the USCF Issues Forum? > >Because you are an Executive Board member and as such it belongs in the BINFO's and most likely in the confidential BINFO's since you are discussing the personal life of an employee of the USCF. There are some issues in personnel that are simply private issues and belong inside the domain of the management of USCF and not the public purview. A little respect for privacy would go a long way. > >Donna > > Sorry, but I disagree. With respect to a regular mid-level employee I > agree with you. However, the Executive Director is the public face of > the organization. When Governor Pataki of New York was hospitalized, > it was all over the news including the frequency of his bowel > movements. If Bill Hall frequently does not come to work because of an > "infected toe" and then a car accident, the members need to know about > it, especially since the real problem is board inaction and > incompetence in dealing with this issue. > > And yes, I said it. This board is incompetent. > > I myself did not know that Bill Hall was frequently absent from work > until about two months ago. I knew that other members of the board > were unhappy with Bill Hall and even wanted to fire him, but I did not > know the reason, until somebody leaked me this little secret. > > I would like to see some legal authority to support your claim that > the Executive Director of a 501(c)(4) corporation has a "right to > privacy" which protects him from having it revealed that he cannot do > his job. > > Sam Sloan Sam, I have provided the information in previous posts. You are free to call the phone number yourself to get clairification. It doe not matter what kind of organization it is. You screwed up.
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 12:20:24
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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At 01:52 PM 4/6/2007 EDT, [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 4/6/2007 1:01:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: Why is not this a valid subject for >discussion on the USCF Issues Forum? >Because you are an Executive Board member and as such it belongs in the BINFO's and most likely in the confidential BINFO's since you are discussing the personal life of an employee of the USCF. There are some issues in personnel that are simply private issues and belong inside the domain of the management of USCF and not the public purview. A little respect for privacy would go a long way. >Donna Sorry, but I disagree. With respect to a regular mid-level employee I agree with you. However, the Executive Director is the public face of the organization. When Governor Pataki of New York was hospitalized, it was all over the news including the frequency of his bowel movements. If Bill Hall frequently does not come to work because of an "infected toe" and then a car accident, the members need to know about it, especially since the real problem is board inaction and incompetence in dealing with this issue. And yes, I said it. This board is incompetent. I myself did not know that Bill Hall was frequently absent from work until about two months ago. I knew that other members of the board were unhappy with Bill Hall and even wanted to fire him, but I did not know the reason, until somebody leaked me this little secret. I would like to see some legal authority to support your claim that the Executive Director of a 501(c)(4) corporation has a "right to privacy" which protects him from having it revealed that he cannot do his job. Sam Sloan
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 12:17:32
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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On Apr 6, 2:09 pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <[email protected] > wrote: > >> Why is not this a valid subject for discussion on the USCF Issues > >> Forum? > > >> Sam Sloan > > > Sam, > > An employer/employee relationship exists between Bill Hall ad the > > USCF. You cannot make those disclosures. > > Did he make the initial disclosure? Not saying what he said was right, just > wondering who first said it. > > -- > Ray Gordon, Author > Price And Probability (The Value Handicapper's Bible)http://www.cybersheet.com/horsepix.html > > Would someone PLEASE become Ashlee Schull's new #1 fan? She deserves > better. It doesn't matter.As an employer, If one of my employees tells a supervisor in my company that they are sick"for any reason" I cannot make that information public. It is a simply a violation of HIPPA. Hippa is a very complicated law. You can be fined if simply failing to keep locked employee information that may include confidential medical or credit information. Trust me. I have had to take hours of certification on this as part of my licensing process. He has made a serious mistake. Rob Mitchell, LUTCF
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 11:42:10
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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On Apr 6, 11:54 am, "samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote: > You raise an interesting question. We had the same problem with Frank > Niro. At one point, Frank Niro disappeared for six weeks, saying that > he was going to Palm Beach Gardens to investigate the planned move by > the USCF there. > > After he had left office, we found that Frank Niro had had only one > meeting with the Palm Beach Gardens people, and that meeting was > brief. > > This was before Niro notoriously disappeared in August 2003 when he > left the USCF Offices in New Windsor supposedly on his way to the USCF > delegates meeting in Los Angeles but never got there. > > Niro and Hall have followed similar patterns in other ways as well, > such as making secret deals with Polgar without informing the board. I > wonder what motivates them to keep making these secret deals. > > The various excuses Bill Hall has made for not coming in to work have > been publicly made by him. All I did is simply add them up in put them > in one post. For example, right now my wife is seriously ill in the > hospital. I have told several people about it. Can I then sue somebody > else for reporting it? > > Right now, it is the duty and the obligation of the board to deal with > the Bill Hall problem. For example, Bill Hall was supposed to have > visited the playing site for the 2007 US Open and Delegates Meeting in > Cherry Hill NJ, especially since the hotel is under renovation. Bill > Hall canceled the trip some months ago because of an "infected toe". > He still to date has not gone there. Is his toe still infected? Can > the USCF wait for the infection of his toe to be cured, or will we > have to get another Executive Director because he is unable to do the > job? > > Why is not this a valid subject for discussion on the USCF Issues > Forum? > > Sam Sloan Sam, An employer/employee relationship exists between Bill Hall ad the USCF. You cannot make those disclosures. Rob
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 15:09:47
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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>> Why is not this a valid subject for discussion on the USCF Issues >> Forum? >> >> Sam Sloan > > Sam, > An employer/employee relationship exists between Bill Hall ad the > USCF. You cannot make those disclosures. Did he make the initial disclosure? Not saying what he said was right, just wondering who first said it. -- Ray Gordon, Author Price And Probability (The Value Handicapper's Bible) http://www.cybersheet.com/horsepix.html Would someone PLEASE become Ashlee Schull's new #1 fan? She deserves better.
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 09:54:22
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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You raise an interesting question. We had the same problem with Frank Niro. At one point, Frank Niro disappeared for six weeks, saying that he was going to Palm Beach Gardens to investigate the planned move by the USCF there. After he had left office, we found that Frank Niro had had only one meeting with the Palm Beach Gardens people, and that meeting was brief. This was before Niro notoriously disappeared in August 2003 when he left the USCF Offices in New Windsor supposedly on his way to the USCF delegates meeting in Los Angeles but never got there. Niro and Hall have followed similar patterns in other ways as well, such as making secret deals with Polgar without informing the board. I wonder what motivates them to keep making these secret deals. The various excuses Bill Hall has made for not coming in to work have been publicly made by him. All I did is simply add them up in put them in one post. For example, right now my wife is seriously ill in the hospital. I have told several people about it. Can I then sue somebody else for reporting it? Right now, it is the duty and the obligation of the board to deal with the Bill Hall problem. For example, Bill Hall was supposed to have visited the playing site for the 2007 US Open and Delegates Meeting in Cherry Hill NJ, especially since the hotel is under renovation. Bill Hall canceled the trip some months ago because of an "infected toe". He still to date has not gone there. Is his toe still infected? Can the USCF wait for the infection of his toe to be cured, or will we have to get another Executive Director because he is unable to do the job? Why is not this a valid subject for discussion on the USCF Issues Forum? Sam Sloan
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 09:13:04
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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Sam Sloan has violated the employers obligations under HIPPA and has opened the USCF up to Federal lawsuits. That is why you were banned and should probably be removed from your position. It was just a plain dumb and illegal thing to do Sam. Will HIPAA stop gossip? Rumors and gossip about medical conditions or treatment are a concern to many people. This is particularly true in small communities where neighbors, friends, and former in-laws might work at the only hospital in town. Under HIPAA, access to sensitive medical information should be limited to those who have a need to know. However, no system can ever stop gossip. If you find that any of your sensitive medical information is disclosed through the grapevine, you should not hesitate to report it to the health care service and file a complaint with the HHS. Health care providers must pay attention to accidental disclosures through routine conversation. A doctor, nurse, or technician may violate the HIPAA Rule simply by saying to a third party that they saw a particular individual at the clinic last week. That statement discloses that the individual is a patient who sought care, and both of those facts are "protected health information" (PHI) under HIPAA. The disclosure might be particularly sensitive if the physician is a psychiatrist, but the same policy applies to family practitioners, pharmacists, and dental hygienists too. 11. Complaints and Penalties for Violations What can I do if someone violates the HIPAA Privacy Rule? You don't have the right to sue under HIPAA. The most you can do is file a complaint. The privacy notice you receive from your health care provider or plan is required to tell you how to file a complaint within the organization. The notice should also tell you how to contact the HHS Office of Civil Rights. This is the government office charged with enforcing the Privacy Rule. You must file your complaint within 180 days of the violation, but HHS can extend that time. HIPAA says you cannot be denied treatment because you file a complaint. Even though the HIPAAA Privacy Rule does not give you the right to sue, other federal or state laws or regulations might give you the right to bring an action in court for violations of your privacy. If you feel your rights have been violated, you may want to discuss the situation with an attorney. Filing Complaints under HIPAA U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of Civil Rights 200 Independence Avenue, S.W. Washington, D.C., 20201 (866) 627-7748 www.hhs.gov/ocr/hipaa For the regional office nearest you, www.hhs.gov/ocr/hipaahealth.txt Or email: [email protected] Rob Mitchell, LUTCF
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 08:01:39
From: Ambassador
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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On Apr 6, 7:23 am, "samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote: > Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum > > I hereby appeal from the two decisions of the Forum Oversight > Committee suspending me from posting to the USCF Issues Forum for one > week each. > > I appeal on the following grounds: > > 1. My posting, which stated that the USCF Executive Director, Bill > Hall, is chronically absent from work is valid commentary. The members > are entitled to know that the Executive Director often does not come > into work. That is a legitimate USCF issue and thus is a proper > discussion on the forum. In addition, there is the issue that the > Executive Board has failed to take any action against this chronically > absent employee. Bill Hall is still on the job drawing a high salary > even when he is not there. The members are entitled to know about this > and to discuss this subject. > > 2. This suspension was done by the Forum Oversight Committee. As > originally set up, the Forum Oversight Committee was supposed to > provide appellate review of the decisions by the moderators. It was > supposed to require two moderators to remove a posting. > > What has happened instead is any one of three moderators or any one of > eight members of the forum oversight committee could remove a posting. > In my case, my posting was made on April 1, 2007 (coincidentally April > Fools Day) and nobody commented on it, much less refuted or disputed > it. Then on April 5, four days later, both the posting was removed and > I was suspended. Thus, the forum oversight committee have become super- > moderators. This is improper. > > Also, I must point out again that the members of this Forum Oversight > Committee were appointed in an improper way. Bill Goichberg did not > allow any discussion by the board members as to the merits or demerits > of individual members of this committee. He simply announced the > committee. Three of the six members of the board voiced objections to > this committee and to the way in which it was selected. However, a > vote of three out of six is not enough to overturn the committee. > Thus, Bill Goichberg used a political trick to get the people he > wanted on the committee. It is clear that Bill's plan all along was to > have me suspended from posting to the forums and that was the reason > why he adopted this tactic. > > 3. I am a candidate for election. Candidates for election should not > be suspended from posting for any reason. If a candidate posts > something false or in bad taste, it is up to his opponents or to the > general membership to refute it. It simply cannot be allowed that > members of the board who oppose a certain candidate can use their own > hand-picked stooges to suspend a candidate from posting. > > As this matter concerns the election campaign that is going on right > now, I request that this appeal be heard on an expedited basis. > > Sam Sloan Sam, You are a member of the USCF Executive Committee, and a corproate officer. If you can't post on the forums, maybe the USCF Deserves to go bankrupt. Just give up on it. For one time, I will admit you are 100% right on this issue, and you are getting treated improperly. The tatics should now shift into which national chess federation represents the USA. The US National Olmypic Committee will have to recogininze about hte first corproate entity that drug tests. Kirsan sent a "hit man" to St Kitts. I am supposed to go to the USA NOC, and strip USCF of her FIDE seat. I just don't know at this point. I am going to meet and confer with the folks on ST Kitts as to how we are going to respond, but I take a dim veiw of death threats and "hit men" being flown to St Kitts with files about me. If you contributed to this personal attack, you better fess up. cus Roberts
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Date: 07 Apr 2007 19:49:36
From:
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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Ambassador wrote: [snip] Ambassador, please stop flooding rec.games.chess.computer with posts that have nothing to do with computer chess.
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 05:33:38
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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On 6 Apr, 08:23, "samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote: > Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum > > I hereby appeal from the two decisions of the Forum Oversight > Committee suspending me from posting to the USCF Issues Forum for one > week each. > > I appeal on the following grounds: > > 1. My posting, which stated that the USCF Executive Director, Bill > Hall, is chronically absent from work is valid commentary. The members > are entitled to know that the Executive Director often does not come > into work. That is a legitimate USCF issue and thus is a proper > discussion on the forum. In addition, there is the issue that the > Executive Board has failed to take any action against this chronically > absent employee. Bill Hall is still on the job drawing a high salary > even when he is not there. The members are entitled to know about this > and to discuss this subject. > > 2. This suspension was done by the Forum Oversight Committee. As > originally set up, the Forum Oversight Committee was supposed to > provide appellate review of the decisions by the moderators. It was > supposed to require two moderators to remove a posting. > > What has happened instead is any one of three moderators or any one of > eight members of the forum oversight committee could remove a posting. > In my case, my posting was made on April 1, 2007 (coincidentally April > Fools Day) and nobody commented on it, much less refuted or disputed > it. Then on April 5, four days later, both the posting was removed and > I was suspended. Thus, the forum oversight committee have become super- > moderators. This is improper. > > Also, I must point out again that the members of this Forum Oversight > Committee were appointed in an improper way. Bill Goichberg did not > allow any discussion by the board members as to the merits or demerits > of individual members of this committee. He simply announced the > committee. Three of the six members of the board voiced objections to > this committee and to the way in which it was selected. However, a > vote of three out of six is not enough to overturn the committee. > Thus, Bill Goichberg used a political trick to get the people he > wanted on the committee. It is clear that Bill's plan all along was to > have me suspended from posting to the forums and that was the reason > why he adopted this tactic. > > 3. I am a candidate for election. Candidates for election should not > be suspended from posting for any reason. If a candidate posts > something false or in bad taste, it is up to his opponents or to the > general membership to refute it. It simply cannot be allowed that > members of the board who oppose a certain candidate can use their own > hand-picked stooges to suspend a candidate from posting. > > As this matter concerns the election campaign that is going on right > now, I request that this appeal be heard on an expedited basis. > > Sam Sloan I told you about your mistake. You should not be attacking others. You need to focus on Berry and Bauer. That's your only shot to win this election.
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Date: 07 Apr 2007 19:48:39
From:
Subject: Re: Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum
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Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote: [snip] Ray, please stop flooding rec.games.chess.computer with posts that have nothing to do with computer chess.
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