Do you want Korean chess playing programs?

Date: 03 Nov 2006 03:12:45
From: dajava
Subject: Do you want Korean chess playing programs?

HI,

I write some links here
if some of you are interested.

They are demo versions, sharewares and freewares
with menus in Korean.

All of them are for Windows.

dajava,

Date: 07 Nov 2006 01:24:42
From: dajava
Subject: Re: Do you want Korean chess playing programs?

dajava wrote:
> HI,
>
> I write some links here
> if some of you are interested.
>
> They are demo versions, sharewares and freewares
> with menus in Korean.
>
> All of them are for Windows.
>
> dajava,

http://imugi2.com.ne.kr/jangdo_lite.htm

This is an old version of a commercial software with Grand Master's
strength.
Its author permits players to distribute it.
All the menus are in (South) Korean
and some features are disabled.

Size = 665K.

Runs on Windows 95 or later.
Unzip in a folder and run SETUP to install.

Ctrl-N : New Game
Alt-X : Exit

At top :
F = File
O = Option (Strength, Initial positions)
V= View
M= Misc. (Ctrl-C : Ask to Computer to play, 'Alt- - >' : Skip a move)
H= Help

I won't show up this forum for a few years.

Cheers,
dajava

Date: 07 Nov 2006 01:00:16
From: dajava
Subject: Re: Do you want Korean chess playing programs?

Hi,

dajava wrote:
> EZoto wrote:
> > On 4 Nov 2006 01:10:29 -0800, "dajava" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Nice. Very Impressive. I don't know how to play but it is nice to
> > see you don't need out of this world graphics and sounds to make a
> > nice program. It is also nice to see a Windows 3.1 program for
> > awhile.
> >
> > EZoto
>
> Hi EZoto,
>
> I know this forum is mainly for Western chess
> and I seldom play Korean chess myself.
> I just posted the message hoping that some readers will have funs.
>
> I'd like to say that I know a very famous DOS-based Korean chess
> playing software
> if you like a Windows 3.1 program.
>
>
> http://timeless-eye.tzo.com:8448/afi/koreanch.htm
>
> It used to have a a very famous DOS-based Korean chess playing
> software
> with English menus. But, it is down now.
>

From

http://www.xmission.com/~gastown/afi/koreanch.htm

"I have obtained and make available for others to immediately ftp the
file, JANGKI.ZIP (100KB).
- snip -

JANGKI is a great DOS-based Korean Chess game. It does support CGA
through VGA and it does work on ordinary MS-DOS computers as well as a
HP100/200 palmtop. After FTPing JANGKI.ZIP and UNZIPping it in any
directory you want (preferably, it should be a new one), change to this
directory, and run the program, JT.EXE.

This program, JT.EXE, is quite nice as it allows human to play human or
against the computer."

My comment : The download link is down, too.

dajava,

Date: 06 Nov 2006 04:24:57
From: dajava
Subject: Re: Do you want Korean chess playing programs?

dajava wrote:
> EZoto wrote:
> > On 4 Nov 2006 01:10:29 -0800, "dajava" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Nice. Very Impressive. I don't know how to play but it is nice to
> > see you don't need out of this world graphics and sounds to make a
> > nice program. It is also nice to see a Windows 3.1 program for
> > awhile.
> >
> > EZoto
>
> Hi EZoto,
>
> I know this forum is mainly for Western chess
> and I seldom play Korean chess myself.
> I just posted the message hoping that some readers will have funs.
>
> I'd like to say that I know a very famous DOS-based Korean chess
> playing software
> if you like a Windows 3.1 program.
>
>
> http://timeless-eye.tzo.com:8448/afi/koreanch.htm
>
> It used to have a a very famous DOS-based Korean chess playing
> software
> with English menus. But, it is down now.
>
>
You can download it from this Korean site

http://imugi2.com.ne.kr/jangki_eng.htm
>
> I am reluctuant to upload its commerical version to my homepage space
> as Westerners are very sensitive to copyright issues.
>
I sent you private a mail through empas. Check its attachment.
I bought it for $5 in 1995
and give it to you as a gift as I do not need it.

Cheers.
dajava,

Date: 06 Nov 2006 23:37:11
From: EZoto
Subject: Re: Do you want Korean chess playing programs?

>I sent you private a mail through empas. Check its attachment.
>I bought it for $5 in 1995
>and give it to you as a gift as I do not need it.
>
>
>Cheers.
>dajava,

(snip)

Thanks. I always like to learn something new. I know that korean
chess is very similiar to chinese chess.

EZoto

Date: 04 Nov 2006 10:18:58
From: dajava
Subject: Re: Do you want Korean chess playing programs?

EZoto wrote:
> >So, is it still a commercial software?
>
> Of course not. But they say it is.
>
> >What will happen if I share it with others?
>
> If you give it to others?.............nothing.
>
> >By the way, who wants to buy a DOS-based software these day at all?
>
> Well......I do. I still like dos.
> >

- snip -

I found out that I still have a copy of it. (size= 657K)
I am not sure it still works well.

I also have another very famous DOS-based software for Korean chess.
It is not for playing against a computer, but for saving and opening
games.

Do you still have DOS?

I used them on Windows XP with some utilities
such as DOSBOX and VDMS (=VDM Sound).
>

I can send them to you by e-mails
if you want them.
I bought them
thefore, I can give them to you as gifts. :)

> EZoto

dajava,
who does not play Korean chess.

Date: 04 Nov 2006 08:20:19
From: dajava
Subject: Re: Do you want Korean chess playing programs?

EZoto wrote:
> >
> >I am reluctuant to upload its commerical version to my homepage space
> >as Westerners are very sensitive to copyright issues.
>
> Sensitive? How about insane. Here I can have a dos chess program
> that is no longer used, sold or even supported in any way but If I
> make a copy ( and I don't have to sell it ) I could be sued. Right
> now calling the USA a disgrace about anything can get me to be called
> a terrorist. And all this started because of a Windows 3.1 korean
> chess program. Yes, be reluctant. Be very, very reluctant.
>
> EZoto

This is a very intesting issue.

The DOS-based Korean chess playing software was by a Korean software
developer
in South Korea. I bought a copy of it in floppy disc about ten years
ago.
Some years later, which is about almost ten years ago, I bought its new
version in CD.
And, I found it basically the same as the one in floppy disc except
the one in CD has some games and problems. Of course, it was for DOS,
too.
I felt that I was ripped-off
as the CD jacket read it "Runs on Windows 95"
implying it code was re-written for Windows 95.

Since then, its author was not reachable at all.
I sent a letter- a usual letter in envelop with postage- to the company
he worked for. No replies!
I also contacted some Korean chess playing software developmentors
about him
but no one could reach him.

So, is it still a commercial software?
What will happen if I share it with others?
By the way, who wants to buy a DOS-based software these day at all?

dajava,

Date: 04 Nov 2006 16:58:42
From: EZoto
Subject: Re: Do you want Korean chess playing programs?

>So, is it still a commercial software?

Of course not. But they say it is.

>What will happen if I share it with others?

If you give it to others?.............nothing.

>By the way, who wants to buy a DOS-based software these day at all?

Well......I do. I still like dos. One of my favorite chess dos
programs is rebel 12 which you can download for free. This is a
fantastic program.......and it is in dos. And it is powerful. I still
have Fritz 3 and chessbase 4.0 for dos. I like them
>
>dajava,

I'm a collector of Dos programs so I like them. A perfect example is
chessbase. I have Win 3.1 Fritz 5.16 and Chessbase 6.0 versions.
When I asked chessbase for extra copies because the ones I bought were
the only ones and if they broke then I won't have them again, they
said no. Upgade to Fritz 6 or chessbase 7. Is that fair? I decided
to make my own copies of Fritz 5.16 and chessbase 6.0. Is it wrong?
I like the program, I bought it and would like to keep it. No one has
ever asked to buy them from me so what is the big deal? Chess
assistant is the same way. I have the Dos version of chess assistant
2.0. I would like extra copies of the disks so I can always have
them. I ask chess assistant for extra copies since I bought it. They
say no. So I make my own copies. You can't make money off dos and
they don't want you to use dos because they won't make money. I'm in
the 1% of the 1% of 100% computer users in the world, so I am not
worth the time or effort to them. There only words to me.........

UPGRADE!

EZoto

Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:30:52
From: dajava
Subject: Re: Do you want Korean chess playing programs?

EZoto wrote:
> On 4 Nov 2006 01:10:29 -0800, "dajava" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Nice. Very Impressive. I don't know how to play but it is nice to
> see you don't need out of this world graphics and sounds to make a
> nice program. It is also nice to see a Windows 3.1 program for
> awhile.
>
> EZoto

Hi EZoto,

I know this forum is mainly for Western chess
and I seldom play Korean chess myself.
I just posted the message hoping that some readers will have funs.

I'd like to say that I know a very famous DOS-based Korean chess
playing software
if you like a Windows 3.1 program.

http://timeless-eye.tzo.com:8448/afi/koreanch.htm

It used to have a a very famous DOS-based Korean chess playing
software
with English menus. But, it is down now.

I am reluctuant to upload its commerical version to my homepage space
as Westerners are very sensitive to copyright issues.

For rules of Korean chess
http://www.chessvariants.org/oriental.dir/koreanchess.html

For a Korean chess playing sowtware by a Wesern programmer
http://hem.passagen.se/melki9/koreanchess.htm
(I found it only a few minutes ago)

dajava,

p.s
There are some others by programemers in North Korea and South Korea
Some of them are commercial softwares and the others are not as you can
guess.

Date: 04 Nov 2006 15:57:39
From: EZoto
Subject: Re: Do you want Korean chess playing programs?

>
>I am reluctuant to upload its commerical version to my homepage space
>as Westerners are very sensitive to copyright issues.

Sensitive? How about insane. Here I can have a dos chess program
that is no longer used, sold or even supported in any way but If I
make a copy ( and I don't have to sell it ) I could be sued. Right
now calling the USA a disgrace about anything can get me to be called
a terrorist. And all this started because of a Windows 3.1 korean
chess program. Yes, be reluctant. Be very, very reluctant.

EZoto

Date: 04 Nov 2006 03:59:11
From: dajava
Subject: Re: Do you want Korean chess playing programs?

dajava =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1:

> dajava =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1:
>
> > HI,
> >
> > I write some links here
> > if some of you are interested.
> >
> > They are demo versions, sharewares and freewares
> > with menus in Korean.
> >
> > All of them are for Windows.
> >
> > dajava,
>
> Hello,
>
> 'bada Janggi' is a freeware against which you can play a Korean chess
> game.
>
> It runs on Windows 3.1 or above with 1 M ram
>
> It uses usual janggi rules except that
> it does not recognize 'bik jang' (=3D faced Kings)
> which is unique to Korean chess.
>
> Download link is here
> http://dcslab.snu.ac.kr/~nirsys/bada16.zip
>
> A screenshot is here.
> http://dcslab.snu.ac.kr/~nirsys/image/bada.jpg
>
> a quick and dirty manual by me is :
>
> F5 : New game
> F7 : load a saved game
> F8 : save a game
> Alt+F4 : Exit
>
> P.S.
> Its author calls it 'bada janggi'
> as he was a college student near a 'bada' (=3DOcean).
> In my understanding, he went to 'Busan University'
> Busan is the second largest city in South Korea
> and a harbor city located at bottom-right corner of the country.
>
> Cheers,

I was surprised to death
while reading a page in http://dcslab.snu.ac.kr/~nirsys

"I develop "BADAJANGGI[read ba-da-jang-gi]" that was upgraded last
version 1.6

I graduate physics subject in donga university.

I work at Samsung Electronics for 1 year 1 month 2 week.

I study computer science very hard in the last 1 year.

Now, I am studying at Distributed Computer System Laboratory(DCS Lab)
in computer science department of Seoul National University."

People, including janggi playing software developers,
have lost contact to the author of bada janggi for several years.
I now find where he is.
He bacame a returned students in Seoul.

donga university, not busan university?
donga university is in busan, too.
No wonder I was confused.

dajava,

Date: 04 Nov 2006 01:10:29
From: dajava
Subject: Re: Do you want Korean chess playing programs?

dajava =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1:

> HI,
>
> I write some links here
> if some of you are interested.
>
> They are demo versions, sharewares and freewares
> with menus in Korean.
>
> All of them are for Windows.
>
> dajava,

Hello,

'bada Janggi' is a freeware against which you can play a Korean chess
game.

It runs on Windows 3.1 or above with 1 M ram

It uses usual janggi rules except that
it does not recognize 'bik jang' (=3D faced Kings)
which is unique to Korean chess.

Download link is here
http://dcslab.snu.ac.kr/~nirsys/bada16.zip

A screenshot is here.
http://dcslab.snu.ac.kr/~nirsys/image/bada.jpg

a quick and dirty manual by me is :

F5 : New game
F7 : load a saved game
F8 : save a game
Alt+F4 : Exit

P=2ES.
Its author calls it 'bada janggi'
as he was a college student near a 'bada' (=3DOcean).
In my understanding, he went to 'Busan University'
Busan is the second largest city in South Korea
and a harbor city located at bottom-right corner of the country.

Cheers,

Date: 04 Nov 2006 14:26:06
From: EZoto
Subject: Re: Do you want Korean chess playing programs?

On 4 Nov 2006 01:10:29 -0800, "dajava" <[email protected] > wrote:

Nice. Very Impressive. I don't know how to play but it is nice to
see you don't need out of this world graphics and sounds to make a
nice program. It is also nice to see a Windows 3.1 program for
awhile.

EZoto