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Date: 25 Oct 2008 23:47:22
From: Sanny
Subject: Game against Rybka.
Here is a short game between Easy & Rybka.

Please let me know the mistakes made by Easy Level

Game Played between sanjay11 and easy at GetClub.com

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sanjay11: (White)
easy: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM29551&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(sanjay11) -- (easy)

1. e2-e4{16} e7-e5{0}
2. Ng1-f3{12} Nb8-c6{0}
3. Bf1-b5{12} Bf8-c5{0}
4. Nb1-c3{18} Ng8-f6{34}
5. Ke1-g1{14} Ke8-g8{152}
6. Nf3-e5{18} Nc6-e5{88}
7. d2-d4{12} d7-d6{96}
8. d4-c5{14} c7-c6{32}
9. Bb5-e2{18} d6-c5{58}
10. f2-f4{12} Ne5-g6{244}
11. e4-e5{12} Nf6-d5{76}
12. Nc3-e4{20} Bc8-f5{32}
13. Ne4-d6{16} Qd8-d7{22}
14. g2-g4{14} Bf5-e6{32}
15. c2-c4{20} Nd5-b6{38}
16. f4-f5{16} Ng6-e5{66}
17. f5-e6{12} f7-e6{110}
18. Rf1-f8{16} Ra8-f8{46}
19. Bc1-e3{14} Nb6-a8{114}
20. Be3-c5{16} b7-b6{40}
21. Bc5-b4{12} Rf8-f4{94}
22. Bb4-c3{16} Ne5-g6{64}
23. Nd6-f5{22} Qd7-c8{82}
24. Nf5-g7{12} e6-e5{22}
25. Ng7-f5{12} Qc8-f8{26}
26. Qd1-d7{16} b6-b5{100}
27. Qd7-e6{12} Kg8-h8{46}
28. Bc3-e5{16} Ng6-e5{0}
29. Qe6-e5{12} Kh8-g8{0}
30. Qe5-f4{20} Qf8-c5{32}
31. Kg1-g2{18} Na8-b6{26}
32. Nf5-h6{16} Kg8-g7{0}
33. Qf4-f7{12} Kg7-f7{0}
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sanjay11: (White)
easy: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM29551&game=Chess

Rybka with White easily got ahead. What were the major wrong moves by
GetClub.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html




 
Date: 26 Oct 2008 16:39:33
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: Game against Rybka.
* Sanny <[email protected] > (07:47) schrieb:

> Here is a short game between Easy & Rybka.
>
> Please let me know the mistakes made by Easy Level

The error is to waste you time playing against Rybka. You beginner level
loses against Basicfun. Care about that.

mfg, simon .... l


 
Date: 26 Oct 2008 07:59:04
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Game against Rybka.
Sanny <[email protected] > writes:

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> sanjay11: (White)
> easy: (Black)
> Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
> View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM29551&game=Chess
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> White -- Black
> (sanjay11) -- (easy)
>
> 1. e2-e4{16} e7-e5{0}
> 2. Ng1-f3{12} Nb8-c6{0}
> 3. Bf1-b5{12} Bf8-c5{0}
> 4. Nb1-c3{18} Ng8-f6{34}
> 5. Ke1-g1{14} Ke8-g8{152}
> 6. Nf3-e5{18} Nc6-e5{88}
> 7. d2-d4{12} d7-d6{96}
> 8. d4-c5{14} c7-c6{32}
> 9. Bb5-e2{18} d6-c5{58}
> 10. f2-f4{12} Ne5-g6{244}
> 11. e4-e5{12} Nf6-d5{76}
> 12. Nc3-e4{20} Bc8-f5{32}
> 13. Ne4-d6{16} Qd8-d7{22}
> 14. g2-g4{14} Bf5-e6{32}
> 15. c2-c4{20} Nd5-b6{38}
> 16. f4-f5{16} Ng6-e5{66}
> 17. f5-e6{12} f7-e6{110}
> 18. Rf1-f8{16} Ra8-f8{46}
> 19. Bc1-e3{14} Nb6-a8{114}
> 20. Be3-c5{16} b7-b6{40}
> 21. Bc5-b4{12} Rf8-f4{94}
> 22. Bb4-c3{16} Ne5-g6{64}
> 23. Nd6-f5{22} Qd7-c8{82}
> 24. Nf5-g7{12} e6-e5{22}
> 25. Ng7-f5{12} Qc8-f8{26}
> 26. Qd1-d7{16} b6-b5{100}
> 27. Qd7-e6{12} Kg8-h8{46}
> 28. Bc3-e5{16} Ng6-e5{0}
> 29. Qe6-e5{12} Kh8-g8{0}
> 30. Qe5-f4{20} Qf8-c5{32}
> 31. Kg1-g2{18} Na8-b6{26}
> 32. Nf5-h6{16} Kg8-g7{0}
> 33. Qf4-f7{12} Kg7-f7{0}
>
> Rybka with White easily got ahead. What were the major wrong moves by
> GetClub.

The move that was most wrong was 33... Kxf7, since that is an illegal
move.

1. The first thing you should do is make the program follow the rules
of chess.

2. Then try to make it behave well on simple tests like the "win at
chess" test suite.

3. Then worry about mistakes in actual games.

And when you get to the third stage, it would be much more efficient
if you downloaded some free chess engine and user interface and made
the analysis yourself. That way you could quickly spot obvious
tactical blunders without having to wait for someone on usenet to give
you advice.

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340


  
Date: 26 Oct 2008 17:35:16
From: Bob Campbell
Subject: Re: Game against Rybka.
"Peter Osterlund" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> And when you get to the third stage, it would be much more efficient
> if you downloaded some free chess engine and user interface and made
> the analysis yourself. That way you could quickly spot obvious
> tactical blunders without having to wait for someone on usenet to give
> you advice.

The fact that this clown HAS to ask strangers for advice shows that he is
clueless and has no business "writing a chess program".




   
Date: 27 Oct 2008 10:26:03
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Game against Rybka.
Bob Campbell <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Peter Osterlund" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> And when you get to the third stage, it would be much more
>> efficient if you downloaded some free chess engine and user
>> interface and made the analysis yourself. That way you could
>> quickly spot obvious tactical blunders without having to wait for
>> someone on usenet to give you advice.
>
> The fact that this clown HAS to ask strangers for advice shows that
> he is clueless and has no business "writing a chess program".

No, it's the *way* he asks for advice and uses it that shows he's
clueless. There's nothing wrong with asking for advice and, frankly,
I find it arrogant to the point of being offensive that you feel you
can decide who has the right to write a chess program.


Dave.

--
David Richerby Portable Beer (TM): it's like a
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ refreshing lager but you can take
it anywhere!


    
Date: 27 Oct 2008 07:03:43
From: Bob Campbell
Subject: Re: Game against Rybka.
"David Richerby" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:BKD*[email protected]...

> No, it's the *way* he asks for advice and uses it that shows he's
> clueless.

Exactly my point. If he understood anything about chess, he would KNOW
what moves are "bad moves". That he continually comes in here and says
"here is my stupid little program that, by the way, plays 2400 level chess
at 10 seconds per move. Please analyze this game for me" shows he is
clueless.

> There's nothing wrong with asking for advice and, frankly,
> I find it arrogant to the point of being offensive that you feel you
> can decide who has the right to write a chess program.

WTF? I didn't "decide" anyone's "rights". I offered my opinion.
Frankly, I find it arrogant to the point of being offensive that you feel
you can decide who has the right to an opinion.