Kramnik usng Fritz9?

Date: 04 Oct 2006 07:38:57
From: Henri Arsenault
Subject: Kramnik usng Fritz9?

Topalov's manager has accused Kramnik of using Fritz 9 (see article on
the chessbase web site). He has counted the number of moves that are the
same as Fritz 9 in each of the games (typically over 85% after book).

OK, but has anyone checked to see how many of Topalov's moves match
moves recommended by Fritz9?

If Topalov's ratio is significantly lower, there is reason for
suspicion, but if not, all it shows is that Fritz 9 plays like a World
champion...

Henri

Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:54:41
From: Ruud
Subject: Re: Kramnik usng Fritz9?

"Henri Arsenault" <[email protected] > schreef in bericht
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> Topalov's manager has accused Kramnik of using Fritz 9 (see article on
> the chessbase web site).

The point is, as I've read it, he doesn't accuse Kramnik of anything. He
just makes compares the moves of Kramnik and Fritz9. This perhaps for legal
reasons, but also because he must know himself, how silly a direct
accusation would be.
a. It's only 78%, not 100%, so what?
b. Other engines often suggest other moves
c. Topalov will probably also have high % from one or the other engine

>He has counted the number of moves that are the
> same as Fritz 9 in each of the games (typically over 85% after book).
>
> OK, but has anyone checked to see how many of Topalov's moves match
> moves recommended by Fritz9?
>
> If Topalov's ratio is significantly lower, there is reason for
> suspicion, but if not, all it shows is that Fritz 9 plays like a World
> champion...
>
> Henri

Date: 04 Oct 2006 05:11:19
From:
Subject: Re: Kramnik usng Fritz9?

Most chess players would call the evidence ludicrous. It seems like the
shady Topalov/Danailov duo are willing to use any dirty tricks they can
to win, not content at having already snatched one unearned point.

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3401

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Henri Arsenault wrote:
> Topalov's manager has accused Kramnik of using Fritz 9 (see article on
> the chessbase web site). He has counted the number of moves that are the
> same as Fritz 9 in each of the games (typically over 85% after book).
>
> OK, but has anyone checked to see how many of Topalov's moves match
> moves recommended by Fritz9?
>
> If Topalov's ratio is significantly lower, there is reason for
> suspicion, but if not, all it shows is that Fritz 9 plays like a World
> champion...
>
> Henri

Date: 04 Oct 2006 05:00:11
From:
Subject: Re: Kramnik usng Fritz9?

Date: 04 Oct 2006 17:02:05
From: Ruud
Subject: Re: Kramnik usng Fritz9?

<[email protected] > schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]
> Most chess players would call the evidence ludicrous. It seems like the
> shady Topalov/Danailov duo are willing to use any dirty tricks they can
> to win, not content at having already snatched one unearned point.

Tricks, yes. That must be it.
However, there are unfortunately, but most likely, masses of people, who
would give credits to Topalov for trying so, with all the money that's at
stake.
The first accusations of Toilet-visits maybe aren't even brought up to
accuse Kramnik of engine-using, but more so check if Kramnik didn't go to
the toilet so often just to break Topalov's concentration.
That would also be considered unsportsmanlike, but it's a part of the
battle, that is for the purpose of money/glory.
>
> http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3401
>
> ---
> likesforests
> http://likesforests.blogspot.com/
>
> Henri Arsenault wrote:
>> Topalov's manager has accused Kramnik of using Fritz 9 (see article on
>> the chessbase web site). He has counted the number of moves that are the
>> same as Fritz 9 in each of the games (typically over 85% after book).
>>
>> OK, but has anyone checked to see how many of Topalov's moves match
>> moves recommended by Fritz9?
>>
>> If Topalov's ratio is significantly lower, there is reason for
>> suspicion, but if not, all it shows is that Fritz 9 plays like a World
>> champion...
>>
>> Henri
>