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Date: 06 Aug 2007 11:17:26
From: STJensen
Subject: Recommendations sought for a certain type of chess program
I would like a chess computer program that takes famous chess matches
and narrates them in a tutorial sense. Ideally, I'd love one that
started with very old chess matches and went forward. Possibly sort
of a history of the development of chess. I liked how the chess
matches at the end of "Game Over: Kasparov and the Machine" were done
and am hoping to find a program that is similar to that one. Are
there any programs out there that do this? If so, recommendations
please.

Thanks in advance!

Scott





 
Date: 14 Aug 2007 17:18:53
From: STJensen
Subject: Re: Recommendations sought for a certain type of chess program
JohnnyT <[email protected] > wrote:
> STJensen wrote:
> > I would like a chess computer program that takes famous chess matches
> > and narrates them in a tutorial sense. Ideally, I'd love one that
> > started with very old chess matches and went forward. Possibly sort
> > of a history of the development of chess. I liked how the chess
> > matches at the end of "Game Over: Kasparov and the Machine" were done
> > and am hoping to find a program that is similar to that one. Are
> > there any programs out there that do this? If so, recommendations
> > please.
>
> Here is a brand new series that I was just emailed about, I do not
> personally know about their quality, but the reviewers are of good pedigree.
>
> http://store.convekta.com/shop_model.asp?gid=223&sView=Catalog#produc...

This looks like it might be it. Anyone used any of them? If so, I
would appreciate reviews. :-)

Scott



 
Date: 10 Aug 2007 08:59:54
From: JohnnyT
Subject: Re: Recommendations sought for a certain type of chess program
STJensen wrote:
> I would like a chess computer program that takes famous chess matches
> and narrates them in a tutorial sense. Ideally, I'd love one that
> started with very old chess matches and went forward. Possibly sort
> of a history of the development of chess. I liked how the chess
> matches at the end of "Game Over: Kasparov and the Machine" were done
> and am hoping to find a program that is similar to that one. Are
> there any programs out there that do this? If so, recommendations
> please.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Scott
>
Here is a brand new series that I was just emailed about, I do not
personally know about their quality, but the reviewers are of good pedigree.

http://store.convekta.com/shop_model.asp?gid=223&sView=Catalog#product1429



 
Date: 07 Aug 2007 20:24:21
From: STJensen
Subject: Re: Recommendations sought for a certain type of chess program
David Richerby <[email protected] > wrote:
> tin Brown <


 
Date: 07 Aug 2007 11:40:44
From: JohnnyT
Subject: Re: Recommendations sought for a certain type of chess program
STJensen wrote:
> I would like a chess computer program that takes famous chess matches
> and narrates them in a tutorial sense. Ideally, I'd love one that
> started with very old chess matches and went forward. Possibly sort
> of a history of the development of chess. I liked how the chess
> matches at the end of "Game Over: Kasparov and the Machine" were done
> and am hoping to find a program that is similar to that one. Are
> there any programs out there that do this? If so, recommendations
> please.
>
> Thanks in advance!

If you purchase any of the chessbase programs. (some can be had very
cheap online <$20.00) you get a 1 year license to playchess.

With that, you can look at all sorts of important games that have been
annotated and visible through the chessbase interface. Where you can
stop the show, and play with the position using your favorite UCI engine
to give you some background.

It is a great way to bridge the gap between the two worlds.


 
Date: 07 Aug 2007 14:50:36
From: Anders Thulin
Subject: Re: Recommendations sought for a certain type of chess program
STJensen wrote:
> I would like a chess computer program that takes famous chess matches
> and narrates them in a tutorial sense. Ideally, I'd love one that
> started with very old chess matches and went forward. Possibly sort
> of a history of the development of chess.

You can find any number of programs that tries to do this, but
you'll also find that there's nothing to beat the human brain --
annotation is not something computer programs are particularly good at.

(I think is more .misc than .computer...)

Try the book '500 Master Games of Chess' by Tartakower & Du Mont.

--
Anders Thulin anders*thulin.name http://www.anders.thulin.name/


 
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From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: Recommendations sought for a certain type of chess program


  
Date: 07 Aug 2007 14:55:44
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Recommendations sought for a certain type of chess program
tin Brown <

 
Date: 06 Aug 2007 15:49:27
From:
Subject: Re: Recommendations sought for a certain type of chess program
Actually, to get this done properly I would recommend two programs.
Fritz 10 is pretty good at annotating games. However Rybka 2.3.2a is
the strongest and most reliable chess engine around. So if analytic
accuracy is most important you would rely on the latter, but for
features you can't beat Fritz. Use both and you get a double-edged
point of view.



  
Date: 07 Aug 2007 09:51:12
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Recommendations sought for a certain type of chess program
<[email protected] > wrote:
> STJensen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I would like a chess computer program that takes famous chess
>> matches and narrates them in a tutorial sense. Ideally, I'd love
>> one that
>
> Actually, to get this done properly I would recommend two programs.
> Fritz 10 is pretty good at annotating games. However Rybka 2.3.2a is
> the strongest and most reliable chess engine around.

This is not what the original poster is looking for. Computers
annotate with little better than, ``If he'd played 29.Rxe7 Rxe7
30.Bc3, his position would be 0.31 pawns better.'' This is not
``narrating in a tutorial sense.'' Chessmaster comes with some games
that have been annotated by strong human players. I'm not sure how
many or how good.

I'm not aware of any chess programs that do what you're looking for,
Scott. I'd recommend you get some good books of games and go through
them but I realise that's not quite the same thing. Depending on your
level, I'd suggest (in roughly increasing order of `difficulty')

Chernev: Logical Chess, Move by Move
Chernev: The Most Instructive Games of Chess ever Played
A book of Capablanca's games
Alekhine (with Nunn and Alexander): Alexander Alekhine's Best Games
Fischer's 60 best games (aaargh, can't remember the exact title)

Bronstein's book on the Zurich candidates' tournament is also highly
recommended by many, though I've not seen it myself.

Now, none of the books I've suggested actually deal with matches. But
most matches contain several dull games that can usefully be skipped.
``Best games'' selections, by construction, tend not to. :-)


Dave.

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