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Date: 14 Oct 2007 06:46:34
From: samsloan
Subject: Rescuing Mig Greengard
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I have discovered one of those Wikipedia assholes has been going around trying to delete the biographies of famous chess personalities. He has already deleted the biography of Mig Greengard and Ali Nihat Yazici, President of the Turkish Chess Federation, and now he is trying to delete the biographies of Bernard Zuckerman, Burt Hochberg, Bill Hook and several others. Since the biography of Mig Greengard was sent to the Wikipedia Graveyard several months ago, I have decided to try to bring poor Mig back to life. Not that Mig is any friend of mine, as indeed I am one of his favorite targets for attack. One reason these biographies get deleted is that, for a time, every time I posted a chess biography on Wikipedia, I would announce it here, and then our resident chess asshole Louis Blair would run to the Biggest Wikipedia Asshole of them all, Guy Chapman, who has the screen name "Just Another Guy", and get "Guy" to delete it. As a result, I stopped announcing here that I had posted a chess biographies to Wikipedia. However, recently, Guy Champan, who was User:JzG , has left Wikipedia. I hope he was banned, because he was by far the most abusive administrator Wikipedia had. At about the same time, Louis Blair, our own resident asshole, has disappeared too. (Were they the same person?). So, I decided to take a chance by reviving and bringing back to life Mig Greengard. I am really taking a chance, because when one of these Wikipedia assholes notices this (as they will within a few minutes) they are likely to decide to "Salt the Earth" meaning that no biography of Mig can ever be posted to Wikipedia again. That is what has happened to Ali Nihat Yazici. Here is my biography of Mig. It was just posted a few minutes ago. I hope that Louis Blair is really no longer here because otherwise he will try to have it deleted again. I hope that the rest of you are not of a like mind. Otherwise, as the story goes, "When they come to get you, there will be nobody left to defend you". Mig Greengard >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Mig Greengard, whose full name is Michael Greengard, (b. 9 June 1969 in Berkeley, California) is a well known chess author and journalist. He lived for a number of years in Argentina where he claims to have had a master rating. He returned to America in 1999 where he became the managing director of the New York Office of Kasparov Chess Foundation at 32 Broadway and was closely associated with World Chess Champion Garry Kasparov. He is a regular columnist for ChessBase and New in Chess magazines. [1] He also writes a column on his own website called "The Daily Dirt". In 2007, Greengard was named "Chess Journalist of the Year" by the United States Chess Federation.[2] Greengard has been involved in a number of controversies, usually as an outspoken critic of the establishment. He strongly supported Paul Truong and Susan Polgar in the 2007 USCF elections, but has recently turned against them after discovering that they have posted to his blog under at least ten different fake names. He has filed an abuse report with their ISP. On this subject, Mig writes: I'm all for anonymity, even as stupid as it makes some people. But when it comes to people coming here and crapping all over the place, no. Crawl back to the Usenet or we will see what your Suddenlink provider has to say about identity theft and providing server logs, which can trivially reconstruct your connection times, dns connection records, and packet transmission down to the millisecond, making IP superfluous. -Mig Greengard, Slime Spillover [3] [edit] External links * Who is Mig Greengard? * Paul Hoffman on Mig Greengard * USCF Rating for Mig Greengard * Chess Ninja website [edit] References 1. ^ http://www.chessbase.com/columns/column.asp?pid=160 Mig on Chess 2. ^ http://main.uschess.org/content/view/7777/381 3. ^ http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/2007/10/slime_spillover.htm Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mig_Greengard" Categories: 1969 births
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Date: 17 Oct 2007 05:36:58
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Rescuing Mig Greengard
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The biography of Ali Nihat Yazici has today been restored to Wikipedia as a "stub". So, I have today asked that the other three notable chess personalities who were simultaneously "salted the earth" by the same now-banned user be restored as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_October_13 Here is what I wrote: Thank you very much. Now, what can be done about the other three biographies that were simultaneously "salted the earth" by [[User:JzG]], who has since left Wikipedia? These are [[Julio C=E9sar Ingolotti]], [[Geoffrey Borg]] (AfD) and [[Panupand Vijjuprabha]] (AfD - > copyviol speedy). These were all "salted the earth" because, he said, that there was a history of copyright violations by me. However, this was not true. I was the original author of the original articles about these four persons. At that time I was a member of the Executive Board of Directors of the [[United States Chess Federation]] and these four individuals here the official nominees of the [[USCF]] for election to the Executive Board of [[FIDE]], the [[World Chess Federation]]. These four were also the presidents of the chess federations of their respective countries, Turkey, Paraguay, Malta, and Thailand, thus easily making them sufficiently notable by the standards of Wikipedia. The idea that I would copy the work of others is nonsense as everybody knows that I write my own stuff. I do not personally know any of these four men, but since we nominated them to the top positions of FIDE, it was among my duties to write biographies of these men and posting these biographies to various places around the Internet. Thus, when [[User:JzG]] claimed that I was violating a copyright, he was accusing me of copying my own work. In short, the earth should be "unsalted" with respect to these four persons. ~~~~ Sam Sloan
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Date: 14 Oct 2007 14:40:29
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Subject: Re: Rescuing Mig Greengard
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samsloan wrote: > > In addition, the following four persons have been the subject of > "salting the earth" which means that no biography of them can ever be > posted again: Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio C=E9sar Ingolotti, Geoffrey Borg > and Panupand Vijjuprabha > > I am trying to get the earth "unsalted" at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_October_13 > > I do not personally know Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio C=E9sar Ingolotti, > Geoffrey Borg and Panupand Vijjuprabha. I am in no way involved with > them. I posted their biographies on Wikipedia because they were the > official USCF Candidates for election to the FIDE board. The USCF > board officially supported them but when Wikipedia deleted all their > biographies not only did the USCF board not protest to Wikipedia, but > the USCF censured me for trying to get the biographies of these > notable chess personalities reinstated. (This again proves the idiocy > of the USCF Executive Board.) > . > > Sam Sloan Sam, you're distorting the facts again. While I have some doubts about the notability of Yazici and the others, that's not why they were deleted. The articles were removed because you violated copyright. You posted bios copied directly from another source. Wikipedia won't tolerate that.
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Date: 14 Oct 2007 10:18:00
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Rescuing Mig Greengard
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For those of you who doubt the seriousness of the situation, take a look at the Wikipedia biographies of Bernard Zuckerman, Bill Hook, Carmine Nigro and Burt Hochberg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Zuckerman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hook http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmine_Nigro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Hochberg All of these people are easily important enough to have a biography on Wikipedia, but all have been tagged for deletion. (I removed the tag from Hochberg's biography a few days ago but it will likely be reinstated when they notice it.) Previously, the same person deleted the biography of Mig Greengard, which I am trying to reinstate. In addition, the following four persons have been the subject of "salting the earth" which means that no biography of them can ever be posted again: Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio C=E9sar Ingolotti, Geoffrey Borg and Panupand Vijjuprabha I am trying to get the earth "unsalted" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_October_13 I do not personally know Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio C=E9sar Ingolotti, Geoffrey Borg and Panupand Vijjuprabha. I am in no way involved with them. I posted their biographies on Wikipedia because they were the official USCF Candidates for election to the FIDE board. The USCF board officially supported them but when Wikipedia deleted all their biographies not only did the USCF board not protest to Wikipedia, but the USCF censured me for trying to get the biographies of these notable chess personalities reinstated. (This again proves the idiocy of the USCF Executive Board.) Thus, if the biographies of Bernard Zuckerman, Bill Hook, Carmine Nigro, Burt Hochberg and Mig Greengard (again) all disappear, do not blame me. You can only blame yourselves. Sam Sloan
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Date: 14 Oct 2007 13:32:41
From: Lonnie Gold
Subject: Re: Rescuing Mig Greengard
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"samsloan" <The USCF board officially supported them but when Wikipedia deleted all their biographies not only did the USCF board not protest to Wikipedia, >> STOP SUPPORTING WIKIPEDIA. IT IS SHIT. If you visit Wikipedia, you can find biographies of the most obscure people on earth when it comes to some subjects. On other subjects there are WIKI CUNTS who re-write and delete and destroy everything. WIKIPEDIA IS RUN BY CUNTS. These are unpaid cripples who spend all day working as volunteers and by shear force of volume they overpower certain subjects and become the territorial chiefs of various areas. Unless you can sit home on your fat ass all day and do the same thing, you have no chance. Contributing to Wikipedia is a waste of fucking time. Every day some other asshole who visits the article that you wrote can re-write it to his liking, and then some fucktard Wiki Cunteditor can delete it. SO STOP WASTING YOUR TIME. IF YOU WANT TO POST BIOGRAPHIES, THEN POST THEM ON YOUR WEBSITE AND DELETE ALL THAT POKEMON PORN AND ALL THE OTHER PERVERTED SHIT.
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