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Date: 16 Aug 2007 12:40:13
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Subject: Turing engine
Is turing engine in any rating list, like ssdf? Has anybody tried it
against a wide variety of opponents to estimate its elo?

Is there anywhere in the web more info about how it works?

Thanks





 
Date: 19 Aug 2007 13:50:52
From:
Subject: Re: Alan Turing's Chess program
Well it is extremely slow. Keeping in mind that it doesn't have any
chess knowledge, then it must have no selective search in order to be
so slow.

It has no options.


rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Turing:

1=2Ea3
=B1 (0.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2Ea4
+- (1.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2Ec4
+- (1.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2Ed3
+- (2.70) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2Ed4
+- (3.30) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2Ee3
+- (4.40) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2Ee3 Nc6
+- (4.40) Depth: 2 00:00:00
1=2Ee3 Nc6 2.e4
+- (4.40) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1=2Ee3 Nc6 2.e4 Rb8
+- (4.40) Depth: 4 00:00:01
1=2Ee3 Nc6 2.e4 Rb8 3.a3
+- (4.40) Depth: 5 00:00:03
1=2Ee3 Nc6 2.e4 Rb8 3.a3 Ra8
+- (4.40) Depth: 6 00:00:14
It doesn't mind how long you give it to think it sticks with e3!

And for black side regardless white's first move: It sticks to e6!

for example after e4

rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/4P3/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq e3 0 1

Analysis by Turing:

1=2E..Nc6
-+ (-1.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..Nf6
-+ (-2.00) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..d6
-+ (-2.70) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..d5 2.exd5 Qxd5
-+ (-3.30) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..e6
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..e6 2.e5
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 2 00:00:00
1=2E..e6 2.e5 Nc6
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1=2E..e6 2.e5 Nc6 3.d4
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 4 00:00:01
1=2E..e6 2.e5 Nc6 3.d4 Rb8
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 5 00:00:05
1=2E..e6 2.e5 Nc6 3.d4 Rb8 4.a3
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 6 00:00:30

after d4

rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/3P4/8/PPP1PPPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq d3 0 1

Analysis by Turing:

1=2E..Nc6
-+ (-2.00) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..d6
-+ (-2.70) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..d5
-+ (-3.30) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..e6
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..e6 2.d5 exd5 3.Qxd5
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 2 00:00:00
1=2E..e6 2.d5 exd5 3.Qxd5
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1=2E..e6 2.d5 exd5 3.Qxd5
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 4 00:00:01
1=2E..e6 2.d5 exd5 3.Qxd5 Nc6
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 5 00:00:06
1=2E..e6 2.d5 exd5 3.Qxd5 Nc6 4.Qc4
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 6 00:01:24

after c4

rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/2P5/8/PP1PPPPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq c3 0 1

Analysis by Turing:

1=2E..Nc6
-+ (-1.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..Nf6
-+ (-1.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..a5
-+ (-1.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..d6
-+ (-2.70) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..d5 2.cxd5 Qxd5
-+ (-3.30) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..e6
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..e6 2.a3
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 2 00:00:00
1=2E..e6 2.a3 Nc6
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1=2E..e6 2.a3 Nc6 3.a4
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 4 00:00:05
1=2E..e6 2.a3 Nc6 3.a4 Rb8
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 5 00:00:25
1=2E..e6 2.a3 Nc6 3.a4 Rb8 4.a5
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 6 00:05:43

after Nf3

rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/5N2/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R b KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Turing:

1=2E..Nc6
-+ (-1.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..Nf6
-+ (-1.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..a5
-+ (-1.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..d6
-+ (-2.70) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..d5
-+ (-3.30) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..e6
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..e6 2.Ng1
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 2 00:00:00
1=2E..e6 2.Ng1 Nc6
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1=2E..e6 2.Ng1 Nc6 3.a3
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 4 00:00:01
1=2E..e6 2.Ng1 Nc6 3.a3 Rb8
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 5 00:00:04
1=2E..e6 2.Ng1 Nc6 3.a3 Rb8 4.a4
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 6 00:00:16


and after b3

rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/1P6/P1PPPPPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Turing:

1=2E..Nc6
-+ (-1.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..Nf6
-+ (-1.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..a5
-+ (-1.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..d6
-+ (-2.70) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..d5
-+ (-3.30) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..e6
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1=2E..e6 2.a3
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 2 00:00:00
1=2E..e6 2.a3 Nc6
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1=2E..e6 2.a3 Nc6 3.a4
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 4 00:00:01
1=2E..e6 2.a3 Nc6 3.a4 Rb8
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 5 00:00:03
1=2E..e6 2.a3 Nc6 3.a4 Rb8 4.a5
-+ (-4.40) Depth: 6 00:00:12


after 1.e4e5

rnbqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/4p3/4P3/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq e6 0 1

Analysis by Turing:

2=2Ea3
=B1 (0.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
2=2Ea4
+- (1.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
2=2Ed4 exd4 3.Qxd4
+- (2.70) Depth: 1 00:00:00
2=2ENc3
+- (3.10) Depth: 1 00:00:00
2=2ENc3 Nc6
+- (3.10) Depth: 2 00:00:00
2=2ENc3 Nc6 3.Nd5
+- (3.10) Depth: 3 00:00:00
2=2ENc3 Nc6 3.Nd5 Rb8
+- (3.10) Depth: 4 00:00:02
2=2ENc3 Nc6 3.Nd5 Rb8 4.Ne3
+- (3.10) Depth: 5 00:00:12
2=2ENc3 Nc6 3.Nd5 Rb8 4.Ne3 Ra8
+- (3.10) Depth: 6 00:00:52

after 1.e4e5 2.Nc3


rnbqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/4p3/4P3/2N5/PPPP1PPP/R1BQKBNR b KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Turing:

2=2E..Nc6
-+ (-2.10) Depth: 1 00:00:00
2=2E..Qf6
-+ (-2.10) Depth: 1 00:00:00
2=2E..Qg5
-+ (-2.10) Depth: 1 00:00:00
2=2E..Qg5 3.Nd5
-+ (-2.10) Depth: 2 00:00:00
2=2E..Qg5 3.Nd5 Kd8
-+ (-2.10) Depth: 3 00:00:00
2=2E..Qg5 3.Nd5 Kd8 4.Ne3
-+ (-2.10) Depth: 4 00:00:03
2=2E..Qg5 3.Nd5 Kd8 4.Ne3 Nc6
-+ (-2.10) Depth: 5 00:00:16
2=2E..Qg5 3.Nd5 Kd8 4.Ne3 Nc6 5.Nf5
-+ (-2.10) Depth: 6 00:01:19

and after 2....Qg5

rnb1kbnr/pppp1ppp/8/4p1q1/4P3/2N5/PPPP1PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Turing:

3=2ENd5
=3D (0.00) Depth: 1 00:00:00
3=2Ea3
=B1 (0.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00
3=2Ea4
=B1 (1.10) Depth: 1 00:00:00
3=2Ed4
+- (2.20) Depth: 1 00:00:00
3=2Ed4 Qf6
+- (2.20) Depth: 2 00:00:00
3=2Ed4 Qf6 4.dxe5 Qxe5
+- (2.20) Depth: 3 00:00:00
3=2Ed4 Qf6 4.dxe5 Qxe5
+- (2.20) Depth: 4 00:00:03
3=2Ed4 Qf6 4.dxe5 Qxe5 5.a3
+- (2.20) Depth: 5 00:00:23
3=2Ed4 Qf6 4.dxe5 Qxe5 5.a3 Nc6
+- (2.20) Depth: 6 00:01:43

Interesting the fact how the score keeps changing rapidly depending on
the side playing

Don't pay attention on the time, my pc was under heavy load at the
time.








 
Date: 17 Aug 2007 23:44:38
From: Guy Macon
Subject: Re: Alan Turing's Chess program



[email protected] wrote:

>I had no idea we lost it completely.
>Are you aware of any effort to reconstruct it?
>Or to make some valid educated guess about how it was working apart
>from the non-detailed info on chessbase?

See my other post in this thread to see more on whether it
is actually lost or not.



 
Date: 17 Aug 2007 10:53:03
From:
Subject: Re: Alan Turing's Chess program (was: Turing engine)
On Aug 17, 10:45 am, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/ > wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> >Is turing engine in any rating list, like ssdf? Has anybody tried it
> >against a wide variety of opponents to estimate its elo?
>
> >Is there anywhere in the web more info about how it works?
>
> "Turing Engine" has another meaning. I suggest calling it
> "Alan Turing's Chess Program" or "TurboChamp."
>
> Nobody has tried it against other programs for the following
> reasons:
>
> [1]
> Alan Turing's Chess program has been lost to history.
> No copies survived.
>
> [2]
> Alan Turing's Chess program was written long before there
> existed any computer that could run it, So Turing ran it
> by hand using a pencil and paper, taking about half an
> hour to compute each move.
>
> [3]
> Alan Turing's Chess program was incredibly weak. There
> would be no point in playing it against even the weakest
> programs written for actual computers.
>
> Here is the only recorded game of Alan Turing's TurboChamp:
>
> Event "First game by the frst chess program"]
> [Site "Manchester, England"]
> [Date "1952"]
> [White "Turing's TurboChamp"]
> [Black "Alick Glennie"]
> [Result "0-1"]
>
> 1. e4 e5
> 2. Nc3 Nf6
> 3. d4 Bb4
> 4. Nf3 d6
> 5. Bd2 Nc6
> 6. d5 Nd4
> 7. h4 Bg4
> 8. a4 Nxf3+
> 9. gxf3 Bh5
> 10. Bb5+ c6
> 11. dxc6 O-O
> 12. cxb7 Rb8
> 13. Ba6 Qa5
> 14. Qe2 Nd7
> 15. Rg1 Nc5
> 16. Rg5 Bg6
> 17. Bb5 Nxb7
> 18. O-O-O Nc5
> 19. Bc6 Rfc8
> 20. Bd5 Bxc3
> 21. Bxc3 Qxa4
> 22. Kd2 Ne6
> 23. Rg4 Nd4
> 24. Qd3 Nb5
> 25. Bb3 Qa6
> 26. Bc4 Bh5
> 27. Rg3 Qa4
> 28. Bxb5 Qxb5
> 29. Qxd6 Rd8
>
> --
> Guy Macon
> <http://www.guymacon.com/>

HI Guy,
all these are very interesting.
I had no idea we lost it completely.
Are you aware of any effort to reconstruct it?
Or to make some valid educated guess about how it was working apart
from the non-detailed info on chessbase?
Thanks for the game
Thanks



 
Date: 17 Aug 2007 10:42:54
From:
Subject: Re: Turing engine
On Aug 17, 1:43 am, Tony M <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:40:13 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> >Is turing engine in any rating list, like ssdf? Has anybody tried it
> >against a wide variety of opponents to estimate its elo?
>
> >Is there anywhere in the web more info about how it works?
>
> >Thanks
>
> Turing is much too weak of an engine to appear on the SSDF rating
> list. There are a couple of other testers who do include it in their
> lists. You can look at these links to get a general idea of its
> strength:http://www.grailmaster.com/misc/chess/comp/all.htmlhttp://loirechecs.chez-alice.fr/chesswar/Chesswar011PLs.htm
>
> The chessbase page that has the Turing download has an explanation of
> Turing.http://www.chessbase.com/download/download2.asp
>
> Tony

Thank you Tony,
but i already knew about the chesbase engine. I realized quickly it is
rather weak, but i didn't know it was so weak!
There is some info on chessbase but i m still qurious about its actual
algorithm



 
Date: 17 Aug 2007 07:45:24
From: Guy Macon
Subject: Alan Turing's Chess program (was: Turing engine)



[email protected] wrote:

>Is turing engine in any rating list, like ssdf? Has anybody tried it
>against a wide variety of opponents to estimate its elo?
>
>Is there anywhere in the web more info about how it works?

"Turing Engine" has another meaning. I suggest calling it
"Alan Turing's Chess Program" or "TurboChamp."

Nobody has tried it against other programs for the following
reasons:

[1]
Alan Turing's Chess program has been lost to history.
No copies survived.

[2]
Alan Turing's Chess program was written long before there
existed any computer that could run it, So Turing ran it
by hand using a pencil and paper, taking about half an
hour to compute each move.

[3]
Alan Turing's Chess program was incredibly weak. There
would be no point in playing it against even the weakest
programs written for actual computers.

Here is the only recorded game of Alan Turing's TurboChamp:

Event "First game by the frst chess program"]
[Site "Manchester, England"]
[Date "1952"]
[White "Turing's TurboChamp"]
[Black "Alick Glennie"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. e4 e5
2. Nc3 Nf6
3. d4 Bb4
4. Nf3 d6
5. Bd2 Nc6
6. d5 Nd4
7. h4 Bg4
8. a4 Nxf3+
9. gxf3 Bh5
10. Bb5+ c6
11. dxc6 O-O
12. cxb7 Rb8
13. Ba6 Qa5
14. Qe2 Nd7
15. Rg1 Nc5
16. Rg5 Bg6
17. Bb5 Nxb7
18. O-O-O Nc5
19. Bc6 Rfc8
20. Bd5 Bxc3
21. Bxc3 Qxa4
22. Kd2 Ne6
23. Rg4 Nd4
24. Qd3 Nb5
25. Bb3 Qa6
26. Bc4 Bh5
27. Rg3 Qa4
28. Bxb5 Qxb5
29. Qxd6 Rd8

--
Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/ >





 
Date: 16 Aug 2007 22:43:12
From: Tony M
Subject: Re: Turing engine
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:40:13 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>Is turing engine in any rating list, like ssdf? Has anybody tried it
>against a wide variety of opponents to estimate its elo?
>
>Is there anywhere in the web more info about how it works?
>
>Thanks

Turing is much too weak of an engine to appear on the SSDF rating
list. There are a couple of other testers who do include it in their
lists. You can look at these links to get a general idea of its
strength:
http://www.grailmaster.com/misc/chess/comp/all.html
http://loirechecs.chez-alice.fr/chesswar/Chesswar011PLs.htm

The chessbase page that has the Turing download has an explanation of
Turing.
http://www.chessbase.com/download/download2.asp

Tony


  
Date: 17 Aug 2007 08:02:25
From: Guy Macon
Subject: Alan Turing's Chess program (was: Turing engine)



Tony M wrote:
>
>On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:40:13 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Is turing engine in any rating list, like ssdf? Has anybody tried it
>>against a wide variety of opponents to estimate its elo?
>>
>>Is there anywhere in the web more info about how it works?
>>
>>Thanks
>
>Turing is much too weak of an engine to appear on the SSDF rating
>list. There are a couple of other testers who do include it in their
>lists. You can look at these links to get a general idea of its
>strength:
>http://www.grailmaster.com/misc/chess/comp/all.html
>http://loirechecs.chez-alice.fr/chesswar/Chesswar011PLs.htm

I would be very interested in seeing what they are calling
"Turing." I am guessing an unrelated program using the name
Turing, not the chess program written by Alan Turing, which
was lost.

>The chessbase page that has the Turing download has an explanation of
>Turing.
>http://www.chessbase.com/download/download2.asp

That link leads to a page with no references to "Turing"

--
Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/ >



   
Date: 17 Aug 2007 15:55:18
From: Tony M
Subject: Re: Alan Turing's Chess program (was: Turing engine)
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:02:25 +0000, Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/ > wrote:

>I would be very interested in seeing what they are calling
>"Turing." I am guessing an unrelated program using the name
>Turing, not the chess program written by Alan Turing, which
>was lost.
>

It's a Chessbase engine, written by Ken Thompson and Mathias Feist,
that is an implementation of Turing's "famous paper machine".

http://www.chessbase.com/columns/column.asp?pid=102

>>The chessbase page that has the Turing download has an explanation of
>>Turing.
>>http://www.chessbase.com/download/download2.asp
>
>That link leads to a page with no references to "Turing"

I know, I posted a corrected link in reply to myself in this thread.
Here it is again, in case my post didn't come through on your server.

http://www.chessbase.com/download/index.asp

Select Engines from the drop down list.

Tony


    
Date: 17 Aug 2007 23:47:35
From: Guy Macon
Subject: Re: Alan Turing's Chess program



Tony M wrote:
>
>Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:
>
>>I would be very interested in seeing what they are calling
>>"Turing." I am guessing an unrelated program using the name
>>Turing, not the chess program written by Alan Turing, which
>>was lost.
>>
>
>It's a Chessbase engine, written by Ken Thompson and Mathias Feist,
>that is an implementation of Turing's "famous paper machine".

>http://www.chessbase.com/download/index.asp
>
>Select Engines from the drop down list.

Fascinating! It sure looks like Thompson and Feist had a copy
of Turing's original program that other sources say was lost.

I just went on a quest to ether find the program they started with
or the source code to the program they wrote.

I started with the description at the above URL:

Turing

Chess engine for Fritz by Mathias Feist and Ken Thompson which
implements the famous paper machine by Alan Turing. The orginal
set of rules was incomplete and unclear in several points,
which are discussed below.

1. no mention was made of stalemate; detection was added with
a positional evaluation of 0.0, which seemed to be the most
logical.

2. a move gets a bonus if threatening mate in 1; a threat
obviously means a nullmove for the other side which is
illegal if the move was giving check. Still it may be a
mate in 1 move. This was ignored, the move just gets the
bonus for a checking move.

3. algorithm enhanced so that the engine may play with
both sides, i.e. everything logically negated if black
to move.

4. iterative deepening added to allow higher search
depths.

5. a recapture is not made entirely clear: it is
considered to be a capture to the same square as
the previous move.

6. rule d) is not clear about checks/enemy pieces;
a wKe1 and a wPe4 give the vulnerability of e2+e3,
but a bPe4 gives an additional vulnerability of e4.
Doesn't sound logical.

7. calculating the material value is impossible if
one side is left with the king only. A division by
zero would occur. In this case the material value
is material+1.0 of the other side.

The algorithm is based on material value, at the
root moves with equal material values are resolved
by positional values which are shown as the
evaluation. This is not completely satisfying
since the positional values are rather "jerky"
and the more important material values are
hidden.
You download a setup program which allows
you to install the engine in the Fritz directory.

Download Turing Engine:
http://www.chessbase.com/download/engines/setup%20turing.exe

I downloaded it and ran it, and it created a single
file called Turing.eng, dated 16-09-2003 19:19 with
a size of 139,264 bytes.

Extracting various text strings from the above, I see:

R6028 - unable to initialize heap
R6026 - not enough space for stdio initialization
R6017 - unexpected multithread lock error
R6002 - floating point not loaded
Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
Runtime Error! Program: ... <program name unknown >
Chess32.dll
Turing.eng
Turing Mathias Feist & Ken Thompson

... So it's a Microsoft Visual C++ program with a Chess32.dll

The obvious Google searches turned up nothing:

Your search - Feist "turing.eng" - did not match any documents.
Your search - Feist "turing.c" - did not match any documents.
Your search - Feist "Chess32.dll" - did not match any documents.
Your search - Feist "Chess32.c" - did not match any documents.
Your search - turing "Chess engine for Fritz" - did not match any documents.

So, does anyone have any other information on this algorithm
-- either the Turing or the Thompson and Feist version?

Could someone with Fritz please run Turing.eng and tell me if
it displays any other information (splash screen, copyright,
help screens, etc.) and if possible post any that might help
in my search?





--
Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/ >




     
Date: 19 Aug 2007 16:29:03
From: Tony M
Subject: Re: Alan Turing's Chess program
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:47:35 +0000, Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/ > wrote:

>I downloaded it and ran it, and it created a single
>file called Turing.eng, dated 16-09-2003 19:19 with
>a size of 139,264 bytes.
>
>Extracting various text strings from the above, I see:
>
>R6028 - unable to initialize heap
>R6026 - not enough space for stdio initialization
>R6017 - unexpected multithread lock error
>R6002 - floating point not loaded
>Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
>Runtime Error! Program: ... <program name unknown>
>Chess32.dll
>Turing.eng
>Turing Mathias Feist & Ken Thompson
>
>... So it's a Microsoft Visual C++ program with a Chess32.dll
>
>The obvious Google searches turned up nothing:
>
>Your search - Feist "turing.eng" - did not match any documents.
>Your search - Feist "turing.c" - did not match any documents.
>Your search - Feist "Chess32.dll" - did not match any documents.
>Your search - Feist "Chess32.c" - did not match any documents.
>Your search - turing "Chess engine for Fritz" - did not match any documents.
>
>So, does anyone have any other information on this algorithm
> -- either the Turing or the Thompson and Feist version?
>
>Could someone with Fritz please run Turing.eng and tell me if
>it displays any other information (splash screen, copyright,
>help screens, etc.) and if possible post any that might help
>in my search?


Hi Guy.

chess32.dll is the .dll that Chessbase GUIs use to communicate with
Chessbase engines. turing.eng is an engine file meant to run only
under a Chessbase GUI.

When I run it here, the copyright screen simply says:

Engine 'Turing'
Mathias Feist & Ken Thompson

Unfortunately I can't seem to find much more information on this.

If you want to try out the Turing engine yourself without having to
pay for a Chessbase product, you can use it with the Fritz 6 demo.
You can get the demo at
http://ftp.carnet.hr/misc/chess/Fritz6Demo.zip.

Tony


  
Date: 16 Aug 2007 23:40:24
From: Tony M
Subject: Re: Turing engine
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:43:12 GMT, Tony M <[email protected] > wrote:

>
>The chessbase page that has the Turing download has an explanation of
>Turing.
>http://www.chessbase.com/download/download2.asp
>
>Tony

This link didn't seem to work for me when I revisited it. Try
http://www.chessbase.com/download/index.asp

and then select Engines from the drop down list and click the select
program button.

Tony